Newbie Student Mafia XXIII - Page 60

On October 01 2016 19:49 Tictock wrote:

The Case on Scott

Just for a change of pace and to keep this post from getting unmanageable I'm going to link to posts rather than quote them directly, at least for the most part.

Regarding Lunatic:
Feel like I should just get the done first and get it out of the way.

Scott first mentions Lunatic in #380 though he is pretty much just mirroring what has already been said about Lunatic. In the very next post Scott throws out doubts because nobody is defending Lunatic.

Last we get #518 which is when Scott decided to vote for Lunatic. To me this post reads as though Scott is reluctant to lynch Lunatic, but has no better alternatives (this will get into my next point).

So Scott parroted the concerns people had with Lunatic, threw out doubts, then voted Lunatic when there was really no other option. Also worth noting that after Scott posts #380 he has nothing to say about any other reads besides a post responding to stutters where he concludes SEQ was just under a null read.

So this doesn't make me mafia though - You just all think I rode the phat bus. Hey I was worried there was no one defending Luna, like I've mentioned multiple times. When no one defends, OFTEN it's a townie. Luna's screw up was so bad though.

D1 Read's and Progression:
Not quite the same as the last point, but related.

I pointed out that Scott didn't really talk about his reads after #380, but before that he posted #307 where he townreads Calix and Rels, and scumreads Jealous and Dane.

The problem here is that Scott gives no real indication of why he thinks they are scum, and these reads basically disappear after #380. In fact both Jealous and Dane later show up in #661 as townreads with no real mention of them in between.

So basically besides what I already talked about with Lunatic, Scott has no read progression at all with his D1 reads.

EoN2 Reads List:
Reviewing Scotts filter I realized that his reads posted in #1076 don't really make sense given his progression.

THESE ARE ALMOST THE SAME FUCKING READS YOU HAVE! SO WHY AM I MAFIA?


The biggest thing is the read on Xata, Scott had Xata as a townread in #661 and the only post relating to Xata I could find is Scott reacting to Xata's big "Possible teams" post. Problem is the read shift to scum here seems a bit exaggerated,


I'm not gunna dig into this read much, besides note that it's odd that Scott accuses Xata of trying to mislynch Skynx. I will also make note for my next point that based on this reads list Xata is Scott's strongest scum read.

Push on Stutters today:
As I said before this was what first got me reconsidering my read on Scott.

So coming into today Scott and I apparently have very similar reads and Scott asks me,

Which seems fine and resonable so I reply that pushing stutters is kinda pointless and ask him to talk to me about Xata. Scott still never responded to this.

Instead Scott "starts to see the light" and makes the push on Stutters. This bothers me not just because scott asked my opinion and this was the opposite of it, but because Stutters is already super-low hanging fruit that is widely scumread. What really makes this push unlikely to come from town imo is just how bad the points Scott brought up where. The comment stutters made about playing with Xata in the past is so NAI I'm amazed Scott even tried to make a post about it (I suspect that post was made to give screenshots and make it look like scott was trying to dig into things). The stuff about the past game where Super vigged Stutters had no real connection to this game since Super townread Stutters and when I spent 5 min glancing at Stutters filter that game I thought it was pretty clear the play we see from Stutters this game is very different from that scumgame.

Basically neither point Scott makes should suggest Stutters is scum, and reviewing the same stuff Scott did I came to the opposite conclusion.

Whats amazing is that even when I say we aren't lynching Stutters and that I want to lynch Scott, here is his response.


No shits given if we don't lynch Stutters, no effort to push Xata, zero effort to read Xata better or read anyone else for that matter. Even admits his own point on Stutters was weak.

Misc:

Just a couple things I noticed that bug me.



Scott has pushed this a couple times as to why Super got killed. Scum didn't buy that post, nobody ever got fooled by that post. Even joking around I'm not sure why Scott would repeat this, but he did.



Who wants to bet Scott is the goon? Lol.

Seriously though, this struck me as odd. I don't know why would town think to post this, but obv scum worried about getting checked would benefit from reminding any cop that there is some hate on his checks.

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I think that about covers it. I've got a bit more to say as I've got a pretty good running theory about who the last scum is as well, but I'll go ahead and save that for now kus it might get confusing.

On October 02 2016 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Was there only one comment on Tictock's case or did I miss something?

On October 02 2016 01:33 Xatalos wrote:
Hm, is anyone else around?

I hope people will see the light about scott so that I won't have to tell my other reasoning on stutters. It would almost certainly be detrimental if I had to do that.

On October 02 2016 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm town guys. I truly am sorry for not being more active.

Anyway, once I flip town:

Lynch Scott. Last scum is hiding somewhere between Skynx, ptmc, TT and jealous. I'll try to read them before I get lynched.

Don't lynch Xata tomorrow.

##vote: scott31337

On October 02 2016 04:53 Calix wrote:
Stutters, what do you make of Daneler's push on Lunatic?

I thought the initial case was crap, his follow-up was decent and then he kind of dropped off after that.

In fact, how much have you read up on anyway?

On October 02 2016 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Also sorta spite for Xata trying to make this "I've got info that proves he's town but I don't wanna say it yet" shit.

On October 02 2016 04:58 Xatalos wrote:


Please start shooting townie rainbows all over me to A) prevent me from having to do something possibly stupid if you're town and especially to B) make sure you're actually town and I'm not doing something truly terrible. If you can do that, that would be the absolute best scenario.