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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 30 2016 07:02 scott31337 wrote: A'ight. What do you think TT? Put some pressure on Xata? Wait for stutters to shit out some info? What do you think? Help me remove my doubts on Xata being scum here. I'm not sure I followed your EoN read on him. Stutters isn't worth discussing until he does something (even if that something is go awol for 48 hours again). | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Also should take a few min to reread Rels posts one more time. | ||
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Jealous
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 27 2016 07:00 scott31337 wrote: That's an interesting kill - could be a dodge though. Welp DYH Shall we chat? This was in response to the Superbia kill. What do you think the Mafia was dodging? On September 28 2016 10:02 scott31337 wrote: There's one positive, two negatives, and one note with this post I'm going to keep to myself. The one thing I like is in the third paragraph is how he describes "before you all send me packing to try and not leave the town with nothing." Feels like a honest (or trying to be) townie on a legit sympathy for the rest of the town. The two things I do not like are "Many of you want to lynch me, I get it." - now if I'm town, I'd phrase this as "Many of you want to mislynch me, I get it." - something worth noting to me. The other is I will probably have at most 1-2 hours to look at this game between now and deadline. So since your last post - we have had two pages of posting - but you wrote this out instead? Like I asked Stutters, who do you think are the last two scum, and a sentence of your reasoning. The note I'm keeping for later in the day and will post if necessary. So many other people being silent gives me tinfoil tinglies as well. What was the note you were keeping to yourself? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On September 30 2016 08:58 DanelerH wrote: Scott, I have a couple of questions for you: This was in response to the Superbia kill. What do you think the Mafia was dodging? What was the note you were keeping to yourself? The medic. They were dodging the medic (if one exists). A vigi would've shot by now. The note was that this the last post DYH could make a blue claim and I would believe it. If he would have made it afterwards, it was past the point of no return and I wouldn't buy the claim. He had enough pressure and was early enough. That obviously didn't turn out though. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 30 2016 09:14 scott31337 wrote: The medic. They were dodging the medic (if one exists). A vigi would've shot by now. The note was that this the last post DYH could make a blue claim and I would believe it. If he would have made it afterwards, it was past the point of no return and I wouldn't buy the claim. He had enough pressure and was early enough. That obviously didn't turn out though. Relating to the first question, do you think there was any other reason why the Mafia would want to kill Superbia? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On September 30 2016 09:35 DanelerH wrote: Relating to the first question, do you think there was any other reason why the Mafia would want to kill Superbia? This post - On September 26 2016 23:11 Superbia wrote: Boy I do hope scum doesn't figure out I'm a PR. But from knowing Superbia's playstyle I was 90% sure this was only a bait. It may have worked  I'm not going to hide the point he was scum reading me as well, if that's where you're going. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote: Stutters A more controversial pick for green color, perhaps, but I agree with whoever said that it would be extremely rare for scum to immediately throw a strong townread on their teammate like Lunatic did. It would only link them together in everyone's minds (something scum would definitely not want) and make the other look bad/scum if the other flips. In addition, it wouldn't come naturally as a careless throwaway comment like how Lunatic said it. It just fits so much better as a casual, too strong townread on someone he would know to be town in advance. Also, I have an interesting theory related to Stutters, but that's best left for later. I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler + On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote: Hm. stutters didn't vote? There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really... | ||
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Jealous
10287 Posts
On September 30 2016 07:43 Jealous wrote: There had to be a reason why Rels was chosen over Calix imo. Reading both filters should help. Will do that in a few hours. Sorry, too much work. Will have to wait until tomorrow, probably around 3-4 PM EST. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On September 30 2016 04:18 Rels wrote: Yeah this got my attention during EOD as well. Jealous was very quick to throw out the idea of DYH being town for bad reasons. Scums are most likely in Jealous / Stutters / scott I'm not sure how it would take you so long to read over his filter and find this. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On September 24 2016 07:46 Stutters695 wrote: I'm here and not scum. How disappointing. Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good. So, I did some research - Unless there's some newer games this does not have, I only see one game (and Assassination?) where you were town and Xatalos is mafia. [W] Newbie Mini Mafia XXVI http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363923&user=Stutters695&view=all ![[image loading]](https://i.sli.mg/KdqyBS.jpg) | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
I still never understood this. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Maybe you think Superbia reads you too well, that's why you got vig'ed in this game with me, TT, etc.? Cap him n1 and get him out of the game? Maybe a little too confirmation bias | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Honestly scott I'm not sure where you are going with this. On September 26 2016 23:59 Superbia wrote: Also I have nothing really solid on stutters but I think he's town. Super wasn't scumreading Stutters? Also scanning over Stutters play in the game you linked he looks pretty different from this game. Biggest thing I'm noting is that Stutters played that game very much with the perfect info he had, he defended town and bussed his teammate fairly hard D2. It was pretty clear that he was trying to setup mislynches after his teammate flipped by association. He also doesn't seem to have a very hard time posting in that game imo. I'm not much of a meta-read guy so I wouldn't put a ton of stock in this since people change and games are different. Still I don't think meta supports Stutters being Mafia very well this game. | ||
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
Still got my eyes on Scott, Xat and Skynx as well, in that order. Xat feels less towny the longer the game goes on. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On September 30 2016 09:59 DanelerH wrote: Thank you for the answers, Scott. Now I have a question for Xatalos: I'm interested in this theory you have that's related to Stutters. Mind sharing it? I'm assuming it relates to the second good reason you have to Town-read Stutters. + Show Spoiler + On September 29 2016 07:08 Xatalos wrote: Hm. stutters didn't vote? There are still two good reasons to townread him, but his play is really... Sorry, it's confidential for now... And not entirely certain. I'll say my thought there when the time is right. However, I'll counter by asking... Where are you going with these questions to different players? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On September 30 2016 14:07 scott31337 wrote: I'm starting to see the light now. And? | ||
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