[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia

On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:
ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this?

On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia

On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way

On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:


Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody.

Could you tell me more?

On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.

On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?

On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.

On August 30 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:

actually next target trfel. or maybe I can save myself some time by asking whether trfel constantly asks "X, what do you think of Y?" as town/scum

On August 29 2016 21:50 Vivax wrote:
Methinks we are all on a wrong track atm. We were until I found enlightenment.

Spoilered road to enlightenment.
+ Show Spoiler +
So I'll go right ahead and tell you who our D1 lynch is. It's scott.

What I noticed in Grack in the other game was that he tended to attach to a lot of issues simultaneously by posting semi contributive posts that tended to end with questions , then he would jump to other issues the actual townies were talking about without pursuing the previously happened discussion. He would also occasionally post jokish stuff.

So if I had to make a summary of how mafia played:

- no own agenda, just reacting to townies and their topics.
- no committment to what he said.
- liked opportunities to start talking about hogwash.
- + one could go on about finding similarities.

Anyway, let me proceed with formulating how all of this actually makes scott mafia.

THE CASE ON SCOTT

Question that doesn't show any own opinion and is left unattended for the rest of his posts. It was just the hot topic at the time so he drops it to appear invested.

Random reactive question that seems irrelevant even to himself. Check.



Simply mirrors what Koshi said in his next post. Apparently thinks I'm mafia with Trfel but so far he didn't even spell it out once.

Low committment to his declared opinion. Check.



Random low seriousness post. Check.



Just for fun he checks Rels last two games.

He comes to a completely different conclusion than Palmar. Bolded.
"Wait, Rels actually just talks about unimportant stuff as mafia early".BUT
"Palmar could have a good idea" even though what Palmar is saying is that Rels doesn't talk.

Appeasing and weak opinion that isn't in line with his findings. Check.



I have trouble understanding this but I think what scott is saying here is that Trfel would find easier targets as mafia. Anyway this is his chance to get back to talk about Trfel's entrance but he doesn't take it even though he appeared to be interested into it earlier.

Another reactionary post to (what I think) a townie said. Check.



Not "This post doesn't make any sense, you are mafia!", but "are you mafia again?". Hiding behind questions to not have to do anything even with a good reason to. Check.



His buddy? How is HF even supposed to be his buddy. Scott doesn't have an own agenda HF could support. Check.



Random question.



Useless question.



COol, now he's talking about our timezones. He apparently thinks that knowing Danielers timezone he can get information about his alignment?



Random questions.



Random questions.

Back to the earlier posts, don't you think he should have me and Trfel as scummy? Do you see anything of the sort in his later posts? Nope .

Rest of his filter is short enough that you can go through it by yourself, but scott is mafiAAAAAAAA and we have to lynch him. Pls help me lynch him town

On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:
hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it?

also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off

On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:

nah no thanks

On August 30 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote:

that was all I had to say

On August 30 2016 13:03 Tumblewood wrote:

it's a weak suspicion. mostly my reaction when someone slips into the town category in my mind and then I think "oh, maybe they could be scum" or "why am I townreading them"

On August 30 2016 21:18 Vivax wrote:


I townread him cause he's really invested in the game.

On August 31 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:

if this vote is still here by deadline Palmar is 100 million percent mafia

On August 31 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:


Explain why this must be true. Also, how did you not have an opinion on me in the early game when I was probably one of the most prominent players during that phase of the game?

On August 31 2016 02:02 Tumblewood wrote:
ok this is not the game where I go back to lynchbait meta
look me in the eyes and tell me that an inconsistent read progression is a trait of my scum games and not my town games
because this is what a) I used to get lynched for everyfuckingtime and b) is bad logic and untrue

On August 31 2016 02:08 Vivax wrote:
Tumble now would be a good time to explain why you semi-called Palmar mafia and then refused to explain. Not that it means much to me that you refused, it's more relevant why you and scott were intent on calling him mafia but not going after him for no reason except what could have been sloppy distancing.

On August 31 2016 02:27 Tumblewood wrote:

oh my god did my meta change in my last 8 town games? spectacular. it turns out I made less posts that were bigger back in early spring

On August 31 2016 04:46 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like I had this great defense that made me look all townie, and then everyone except palmar was more comfortable ignoring it and pretending it doesn't matter
how on earth does this seem similar to my scum games

On August 31 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:

mostly as a result of me changing my mind based on new information brought to light

On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.

On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive.

On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed

On August 31 2016 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:
you have all these great cases on scott too, right in front of your eyes. and you ignore them for the bs on me. I'm voting scott btw if you want to join me

On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed

On August 31 2016 05:46 Tumblewood wrote:

game logic wise you both look the worst imo. but Koshi is pissing me off and looks more like actual scum

On September 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar is acting unusually for him, but that's not necessarily mafia. not quite sure how to feel about it; I'm used to wagon of justice Palmar and all I get this game is normal player Palmar. and the no brakes train to loseville sounds like it fits pretty well with my playstyle.

On September 01 2016 15:50 Holyflare wrote:
I'm trying to determine whether mafia Tumblewood would meta mafia ticktock to make him look bad. I'm thinking it's unlikely.

On September 01 2016 23:49 Tumblewood wrote:
welp I've been blindsided by extreme busyness
thankfully the new posts are slim, but I probably won't be able to catch up till the second half of D2
was the Hf CC on disfo real or just a figment of my imagination?

not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them

On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people

On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.

On September 03 2016 05:20 Vivax wrote:


Even after I have shown you how he claimed scum in a game where he was town and proceeded in an entirely different manner in his followup posts?

On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.

On September 03 2016 05:29 Tumblewood wrote:
but awfully suspicious huh

On September 03 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:

nope I am never ever moving my vote. as soon as you're saying "maybe it's as easy as" you're done

On September 06 2016 07:08 Tumblewood wrote:
I can't write fairly about tictock because he continually pissed me off this game and I was super tunneled on him by the time I died.