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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 16:49 GMT
#1395
And why would you be solo voting HF who has no chance of being lynched ? (I'd never even think about nit before lylo, ever, he's a light of hope in a shit tier afk town even if he was mafia).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 16:59 GMT
#1397
On September 03 2016 01:54 Koshi wrote:
I think we should lynch TW. Reasons stated previously.


Sure, start marketing that lynch. I worked to help get the Palmar wagon up, now you work to get yours up. If you manage to get a wagon going on scott, I'll instaswitch. If it's on tumble, I'll think about it.

Reminder that probably only town voted scott D1 while mafia was switching around Rels/geript/TW (unless you think Daneler and Trfel are mafia?)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 17:04 GMT
#1399
I don't want to get lynched so I'd wait to see what scott and geript do with their votes first before moving away from Palmar.

And Palmar being the lynch for now is fine, at least it will force him to do some work to save himself.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 17:34 GMT
#1403
TickTock pick one between Palmar, scott, and TW please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 18:41 GMT
#1414
This is slowly getting interesting but also a bit scary, didn't expect so many people to prefer scott over Palmar when nothing new on him was posted, contrary to what it looked like all game long.

If Palmar and TW stop wasting their votes we might actually get some info here on voting patterns before it's too late to make meaningful changes to where the thread is going.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 18:43 GMT
#1416
On September 03 2016 03:42 geript wrote:
If rather lynch vivax or Dane.


No you need to make a call on Palmar and stop pussyfooting around his alignment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 18:52 GMT
#1419
On September 03 2016 00:03 Palmar wrote:

geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen.



This description fits like a glove on Palmar as well. D1 he was happy to follow the Rels shenannies not caring much that it was HF leading them.

This day he hasn't been doing much besides posting the list this is from without trying to direct town to anyone in particular.

Why am I thinking this but not geript whom he's pushing with this?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 18:54 GMT
#1420
On September 03 2016 03:50 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck can people not be voting scott? Jesus christ. The. Spreadsheet. Isn't. Real.


We argue cause we care. This is the time to get committment out of people and you should know it.

The next key thing to do is to confront the vote wasters about their votes to realize where the 3 mafia want to place themselves.

Anyone wasting their vote without posting cases on the person they're voting will be subject to shenannies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 19:28 GMT
#1434
On September 03 2016 04:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 01:31 Vivax wrote:
I got one really tough question for Palmar:

Why isn't geript voting for you?

Tmi or maybe im terrrible


Lol tmi do you think he's preferring to bus instead of lynching you in the event you're town?

Anyway I've erased all my assumptions and am currently doing a reread of the game. I have 2 hours to be awesome.

And yes Palmar you're terrible let's hope you're not town. You know the saying, if you get lynched it's on you.

@ Koshi

I'm currently digging through Trfels database games to compare his scumclaim here to one he did earlier.. when he was town. Cuz it does puzzle me that he jumped right into serious mode, when I look at it again.

I'm on a shitty 400 € notebook running linux that needs 1 minute to refresh a page thanks to all these shitty ads overloading it with information, so if you want to help it would be appreciated.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 19:34 GMT
#1435
Found it, it was Carol, his follow up there:

On March 19 2015 08:03 Trfel wrote:
Trfel is Mafia!
Soundtrack for this post

[image loading]

There are people in this town who seek to destroy your hopes and dreams. By day, they manipulate and coerce you into doing their bidding. By night, they silently approach your homes and then kill you without mercy. Only a cruel, stone-cold, heartless person could live in this manner.

We are the mafia. You cannot win. If you have a power role, please state it here, and you might be killed less painfully.


On March 19 2015 08:04 Trfel wrote:
Wow, you guys are fast.....

I never miss the first post when I actually try for it. I guess I've got to step up my game.


On March 19 2015 08:14 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, I was at band practice for three hours before the start of the game. I had five minutes to type that up. Give me a break.


On March 19 2015 08:51 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin is probably town.


On March 19 2015 08:58 Trfel wrote:
Well, I already claimed mafia, so I'm probably going to lurk for a while. I'll come back when you guys get on the right track to make sure I can get townies lynched.

Have fun.


Compared to the followup here:

On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:
Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL.

I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row


On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?


Reads entirely different!

In Carol he kept the trolling up, here he jumped immediately into a bit of an awkward reading questioning of disfo after I voted him for the mafia claim.

Opinions? Might be indicative of something but it's entirely meta based so I don't feel like making a call right now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 19:38 GMT
#1438
If he's mafia, TW is mafia with him for this:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


Cause he doesn't bring up the argument later on. He never actually scumreads Trfel for it. The only slightly indicative post for him scumreading Trfel later on is this one. Where it seems like he "forgot" to scumread Trfel then was like " oh shit I forgot to include my earlier suspect".

On August 30 2016 03:08 Tumblewood wrote:
yes. compared to newbie xxi, in which he is much more attack-y. definitely seeing more similarity to his scum meta and his town meta.
got 'em boys
next target: palmar or holyflare


On August 30 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 03:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare, what do you think about Tumblewood's posts on Tictock? Especially since you said that you're also suspicious of Tictock.

actually next target trfel. or maybe I can save myself some time by asking whether trfel constantly asks "X, what do you think of Y?" as town/scum


Additionally, the post where he calls out Trfel for shifting into serious mode reads like TMI a lot. Why? Cause he immediately assumed that the I was getting pissed at Trfel doing the shift, not at Trfel claiming scum, and used it as a reason to TR me when it actually wasn't a valid one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 19:47 GMT
#1445
I'm totally down for a TW lynch now.

His attention shift from Trfel to Rels which I noticed D1 makes perfect sense thinking of it now, just in reverse as I originally thought.

He wasn't more interested into talking about Rels cause Rels was mafia with him, but cause he wanted attention to shift away from Trfel.

He noticed his scumbuddy Trfel was doing scummy shit. Called it out first thanks to TMI, but as soon as Palmar was starting to crap on Rels for his entrance, he took the chance to not talk about Trfel whom he just called out for doing scummy shit.

Maybe I'm just tunneled but the theory sounds really sexy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:15 GMT
#1453
Damn Palmar might even be right on geript.

On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.

I actually like this post. I don't agree with it, but there's thought behind it.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?

I like Trfel picking up on this post.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.

Also, salut Rels!


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up.


Why is he liking both posts from Trfel and TT even though their relation to my post is completely different? Trfel only asks questions about it, TT calls me scum for it. It's like geript has no own opinion on my post at all, he should at least know if he's agreeing or disagreeing with TT, and normally he should be disagreeing cause he liked my observation.

Why does he keep throwing suspicion at Trfel in these long posts but never seems to care about Trfel?

You will also notice how geript opens with having Trfel as scum (it appears that way) and while he heads down writing his post finding this one thing above as the only reason to possibly think Trfel is town, he more and more keeps putting him as bad town.

But why, actually? He starts his post mentioning stuff that looks mafia about Trfel, why does he have to conclude he's bad town and talk so much about it every time in his initial posts.

And by now Trfel for him is like forgotten, it should be one of the guys he's looking for in the + 1 after me and Daneler.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:15 GMT
#1455
So I'm kinda unscumreading scott on a whim and putting the team geript/Trfel/TW out there.

TWs flip will hopefully prove me right.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:18 GMT
#1458
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:20 GMT
#1461
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


Even after I have shown you how he claimed scum in a game where he was town and proceeded in an entirely different manner in his followup posts?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:29 GMT
#1469
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


And this post is so bad it's like midgame you decided that all you thought earlier was just plain wrong cause early? This doesn't happen,period. Just an excuse for your Trfel read getting buried cause it was inconvenient for you.

You should have had a read on Trfel back then, what happened to it?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:34 GMT
#1472
Since geript is clearly around:

On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
A couple of Vivax's posts don't mesh with how I'm seeing the game at all.

Ehh I think I need context.

On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.


Here he is basically saying that Tumble reacting to Palmar's thing with Rels is an "attention shift" like there is possible association between Rels and Tumble. While Vivax's own opinion of Rels is basically "Palmar is a cool guy, and makes a good point about Rels"

I kinda see Vivax doing exactly what he is accusing Tumble of doing here, shifting some attention from people discussing Rels onto Tumble.

I guess there's a logic to this, but it really doesn't add up.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:20 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:10 DanelerH wrote:
I don't know if this is how xe normally plays, but I am currently suspicious of Koshi. Out of 27 posts so far, 16 of them were irrelevant and uncontributive. Out of the 11 that are a bit more contributive, two of them are cause for immediate suspicion:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast.

Almost 100% lock town tbh.



Five of them are voting for Tumblewood without adding anything:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

This guy is mafia.


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.


On August 29 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Wait, Koshi, I thought that you were joking about Tumblewood being mafia?

Assuming that you are actually suspicious of him, why?

I don't like the read. Seems forced. Face value read.


On August 29 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
Maybe that isn't the best explanation but you just gotta believe.


On August 29 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
Ohh I know it:

He makes a really forced read on Tfrel and then adds "oh and Vivax is town" to get away with the forced read and get some extra cred.



After xyr first vote, xe almost immediately switches to someone else, then back to the first vote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Going to vote Tumblewood. If he is mafia I am confirmed greatest player alive.

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


On August 29 2016 07:59 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote disformation


Goddamn. I had spidersenses going off on one of those posts as well but ignored them. But I like that read even more than mine.


On August 29 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Tumblewood


I am going to stick with my own read. Maybe I like it a bit more after all. Even though that were some superpoor reads from disfo.



##vote Koshi


Tell me more why those two posts cause for immediate suspicion.
+ Show Spoiler +
I had a rough thought that the two could be mafia as well, so I wasn't so off on that second post from Koshi

I really don't get why scott chooses this to take the banner up on. It's like random and crappy.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read

Wait, WTF???? This:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:33 scott31337 wrote:
Do you have anything else to add? What do you think of Race Bannon's posts?


I'm not seeing any direct inconistancies in Race Bannon's posts, but the below post is interesting in that it's the only one that actually says anything.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.



It's strange that he finds Tumblewood and Koshi the most suspicious, despite their only affiliation up to that point being the following:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.



Race Bannon could be someone to keep an eye on, but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.

This dude is probably just not good at mafia.

Overall:

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Hey yeh so the bad thing that is almost definitely ego thing is that palmar sheeps koshi's tw case and then ignores that I've posted one and hasn't town read me.

That's pretty scummy.

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.


You didn't cast a single vote on TW after having him as scum in your earlier posts. Later on he even stopped making you hard. But you sure look like you were dodging his wagon purely based on your votes.

Do you have an explanation for this?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:51 GMT
#1487
This is one of my tinfoil lynches let's hope it goes well.

Nobody hates you HF, you're just drunk.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 02 2016 20:56 GMT
#1495
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