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On September 05 2016 05:13 geript wrote:
TT and Dane trying to play at mylo after being mostly afk. I'm 100% sure neither of them are scum.
On September 05 2016 06:26 geript wrote:
It's completely sarcasm. It's just one of those things I've always noticed... that afk scum play more as the game ends not less. IDK which of those two I'm voting for but probably dane.
What? Neither of us have been that afk, in fact Dane and you have basically the same filter length and besides my day or two that I took off to play Legion launch (which I even mentioned was going to happen pre-game) I've been around plenty and have almost as much filter as you and Dane combined.
Also this logic feels backwards to me as neither me or Dane are really being considered for lynch today imo. So why would our coming back to play more now be mafia motivated when as scum we could just lay low still?
If you were going to use this argument on anyone this game it would be Scott, but you don't even mention him...
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On September 05 2016 09:01 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, also we can't split our votes today, we actually need to consolidate otherwise we could just flat out lose to last minute switches. If you think trfel is actually mafia then convince me. I didn't think he really was at all and all his lists were pretty much identical to mine day 1 (hence why I never said anything about him).
I find it hard to reason that ticktock suddenly starts scum reading him after using trfel as an example to scum read me on day 2 for trfl's analytical approach vs my not doing anything approach. Suddenly trfl hasn't done anything and was instead wishy washy? I don't buy it.
I also absolutely hate all of Scott's reads (lets be real I'm talking about myself) which are entirely and purely associative based on an unflipped player (trfl), ticktock was also happy to just plonk his afk vote on scott yesterday and then fook off. Scott also just posted multiple vote counts with coloured names that lept to a really strange conclusion and suddenly ticktock is all aboard riding with him when he basically spent an entire cycle SCUM reading me for doing the same thing.
I think ticktock is very likely mafia since he's jumping on all of these opportune things and being incredibly inconsistent and writing all these narratives.
I'm gonna try and make a nice formatted post with evidence and quotes but you guys better play. I can't carry you forever, 100% dead if I get it right today.
Scott is never mafia for comeing back to the game like he did. He's clearly actually trying to solve the game and I doubt scum in his spot ever tries to scum read the people he is pushing.
Come at me HF, prove I'm mafia. Changing my reads and voting like I have is almost never how mafia play imo, but you go ahead and try to show that it is.
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Someone remind me to properly respond to Trfel's posts #1612 and 1613 later on, I'm getting called away and only skimmed them.
This part jumped out at me though:
I forget exactly what the arguments presented against me were. I think that Palmar said something about being "under the radar", which is actually a situation that I tried to avoid by claiming scum at the start of the game (in an attempt to draw attention and be able to interact with people enough before I left for college in case I was busier once college started). But whatever. I think that scott31337 said something about associations with Holyflare, and unflipped association is not a very good argument. I forget if he said anything else or not.
I'm not a fan of the bolded statement here, I think it's more mafia sided thinking than town. Trfel is referring to his opening post here:
On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL. I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row 
Now town really will only start that game with a post like this to get reactions from people, and that is how I've been interpreting that post and is part of why I've been townreading Trfel most of the game. Starting the game off by trying to get reactions and push for info is a very towny thing to do, and that is what I thought Trfel was doing.
However claiming that this open was to "not play under the radar" as Trfel is now saying, is much more mafia indicative. Mafia are usually very aware (maybe even nervous) about their opening and try to open in ways that either make them look town or don't draw much attention to themselves. Saying that he claimed scum to stand out then means that he was worried about how he looked at the start of the game.
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On September 05 2016 22:08 Palmar wrote:
8 hours until the lynch, no one is saying anything.
Oh shit, I totally thought we had one more day.
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On September 06 2016 01:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:The point is, geript was generally "suspicious" or at least "meh" on most of the things I posted (which is incidentally a very weak stance to take) and then he does this: On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. Notice the "probably true". He agrees with my logic (and it's perfect logic, my RB read is literlally the best thing in this thread). Geript actually agrees that objectively RB's thought process should lead people to conclude he is town. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.
and yet he somehow ends up in geript's scumlist. Which basically proves the point that I was trying to make that geript's random commentary is just that, completely random and has no relevance to what he's actually thinking. His summary does not match with his commentary, because he's disassociated from his reads, ie: they're not real because they're not real. He's mafia. This is actually a really, really good day 1 case guys. Get in line. Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 01:12 Palmar wrote:On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:-snip- On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though. thank you, I was proud of that read Wait, WTF???? This:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though.
This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town. That said: On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading. -snip- HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual. On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive. I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him. The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia. Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies. This here is a very similar (and very valid) point to the one I made on day 1 regarding geript's RB read. The concept is exactly the same: geript doesn't have any kind of internal consistency in his reads. I'm fine with people changing their minds, but this isn't as much changing his mind as it is just him saying random stuff at random times. Show nested quote +On September 05 2016 20:29 Palmar wrote:
I'm voting geript.
He has twice shown massive inconsistencies in his own reads.
He has done almost nothing to move the game in whatever direction he wants to take it.
He only comments on the game occasionally, and usually with little impact.
Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested.
Yea I could sheep this.
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On September 06 2016 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock/geript/scott is probably what I'll go for.
Ticktock's post on you trfel are atrociously opportunistic and don't match what he's said at all. There's also that post i quoted above where he gives reasons for you to be town but in fact says you're mafia for it.
The amount of failure in your ability to understand what I write astounds me. I was quite clearly saying how I interpreted his post before and how that lead me to form an early lead, but what he had said in a recent post countered that line of thought.
It's like you are not even trying to see what my thought process is.
If you think me swapping two of my reads around is opportunistic well then that should be fun for you.
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On September 06 2016 04:38 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 04:31 Tictock wrote:On September 06 2016 01:09 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. On August 29 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:The point is, geript was generally "suspicious" or at least "meh" on most of the things I posted (which is incidentally a very weak stance to take) and then he does this: On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. Notice the "probably true". He agrees with my logic (and it's perfect logic, my RB read is literlally the best thing in this thread). Geript actually agrees that objectively RB's thought process should lead people to conclude he is town. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.
and yet he somehow ends up in geript's scumlist. Which basically proves the point that I was trying to make that geript's random commentary is just that, completely random and has no relevance to what he's actually thinking. His summary does not match with his commentary, because he's disassociated from his reads, ie: they're not real because they're not real. He's mafia. This is actually a really, really good day 1 case guys. Get in line. On September 01 2016 01:12 Palmar wrote:On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:-snip- On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though. thank you, I was proud of that read Wait, WTF???? This:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though.
This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town. That said: On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading. -snip- HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual. On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive. I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him. The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia. Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies. This here is a very similar (and very valid) point to the one I made on day 1 regarding geript's RB read. The concept is exactly the same: geript doesn't have any kind of internal consistency in his reads. I'm fine with people changing their minds, but this isn't as much changing his mind as it is just him saying random stuff at random times. On September 05 2016 20:29 Palmar wrote:
I'm voting geript.
He has twice shown massive inconsistencies in his own reads.
He has done almost nothing to move the game in whatever direction he wants to take it.
He only comments on the game occasionally, and usually with little impact. Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested. Yea I could sheep this. I'd rather convince Palmar to switch to Trfel, but if he will not, This will be my #2. I feel the least confident about geript, and that's mostly because Dandel could be mafia instead. The Geript/Dandel reads I feel the weakest on. And if we do switch to Geript, we all do (Koshi/you/me) I want five on it if HF votes for geript as well.
Honestly geript is feeling like a pretty good lynch given his last few posts.
Trfel's last couple defensive posts were kinda meh, and the tone was a little off. I can kinda buy his excuse about being too busy though, though that could be true as either alignment.
I feel pretty good about my townread on Palmar still so I don't mind sheeping him.
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On September 06 2016 04:45 DanelerH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 04:38 scott31337 wrote:On September 06 2016 04:31 Tictock wrote:On September 06 2016 01:09 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 18:45 Palmar wrote:
geript's two long posts are awful. He quotes a bunch of my posts and gives random commentary, then proceeds to make his conclusion some joke about marv.
Also, Rels still afk? wow such caught. Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Town
HF
Koshi
Vivax
Leaning Town
Trfel
Null
Palmar
Scott
Rels
Scum
Tumble
RB
disfo
Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. On August 29 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:The point is, geript was generally "suspicious" or at least "meh" on most of the things I posted (which is incidentally a very weak stance to take) and then he does this: On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. Notice the "probably true". He agrees with my logic (and it's perfect logic, my RB read is literlally the best thing in this thread). Geript actually agrees that objectively RB's thought process should lead people to conclude he is town. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.
and yet he somehow ends up in geript's scumlist. Which basically proves the point that I was trying to make that geript's random commentary is just that, completely random and has no relevance to what he's actually thinking. His summary does not match with his commentary, because he's disassociated from his reads, ie: they're not real because they're not real. He's mafia. This is actually a really, really good day 1 case guys. Get in line. On September 01 2016 01:12 Palmar wrote:On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:-snip- On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though. thank you, I was proud of that read Wait, WTF???? This:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though.
This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town. That said: On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading. -snip- HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual. On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive. I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him. The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia. Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies. This here is a very similar (and very valid) point to the one I made on day 1 regarding geript's RB read. The concept is exactly the same: geript doesn't have any kind of internal consistency in his reads. I'm fine with people changing their minds, but this isn't as much changing his mind as it is just him saying random stuff at random times. On September 05 2016 20:29 Palmar wrote:
I'm voting geript.
He has twice shown massive inconsistencies in his own reads.
He has done almost nothing to move the game in whatever direction he wants to take it.
He only comments on the game occasionally, and usually with little impact. Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested. Yea I could sheep this. I'd rather convince Palmar to switch to Trfel, but if he will not, This will be my #2. I feel the least confident about geript, and that's mostly because Dandel could be mafia instead. The Geript/Dandel reads I feel the weakest on. And if we do switch to Geript, we all do (Koshi/you/me) I want five on it if HF votes for geript as well. Holyflare is voting for Geript.
Did you have any reaction to scotts posting today?
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On September 06 2016 05:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 04:36 Tictock wrote:On September 06 2016 02:27 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock/geript/scott is probably what I'll go for.
Ticktock's post on you trfel are atrociously opportunistic and don't match what he's said at all. There's also that post i quoted above where he gives reasons for you to be town but in fact says you're mafia for it. The amount of failure in your ability to understand what I write astounds me. I was quite clearly saying how I interpreted his post before and how that lead me to form an early lead, but what he had said in a recent post countered that line of thought. It's like you are not even trying to see what my thought process is. If you think me swapping two of my reads around is opportunistic well then that should be fun for you. There is no failure to understand. You said your original read was that his first post was to generate information, something a townie would do. He just explained he didn't have time to play and did exactly that. Your new reasoning is that he was just trying to look food despite: A) Him saying he did exactly what you thought in the first place. B) Vivax explaining how trfl has never opened like that in any mafia game. If I'm wrong please explain how while you consolidate onto the geript wagon.
A) Nope, I thought he was trying to get reactions, not trying to stand out so it looked like he was doing stuff.
B) This is definitely not Vivax explaining how trfl has never opened like that in any mafia game.
I'm still deciding if geript is for sure a better lynch than Trfel.
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Eh yea, I see a couple of ok points in Geripts last couple of big posts, though these were from D2.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2016 13:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Not voting (4) - geript, TicTock, Tumblewood, Palmar
Kinda says a lot about the state of the game/mafia team. Like unless I'm the only town not voting, I actually expect that most of us are town. TT/TW is a quite possible team. I don't have any good reason for thinking Palmar's town, but I just can't vote for him. He's doing stuff that's way outside of what I usually see even from him. He's not one to give up after trying as scum; but he will say "fuck this game" as town. I really don't know what direction I want to go this game, but I know what direction I don't want to go. I'm assuming that Palmar (or me) will probably be lynched today (me for this post itself), but I really don't care. If Palmar flips scum then fuck it I'll just sheep vote and admit to playing terrible. I'm not seeing it. Game feels to dead to have the scum team entirely inactive (or mostly so) now or at any time. I'm voting feels this game. I think it's Vivax/Dane +1. The third is IDK, almost anyone but I'm guessing one of TT/TW. Part of it is the Vivax/Disinfo bs that happened last night. Part of it is that Vivax is far less active than it feels like he is. Part of it is the Artanis read that he's missed making cases on a variety of people and not because they've already died. Part of it is that his cases he doesn't even terribly hold onto; it's like he could give no fucks about pushing and forwarding his own shit in a game with 3 people who (Palmar, HF, Koshi) who he generally in some way seeks the approval of. Dane because he's the most unnewbie newbie I've ever seen. He's forceful without being confident. He gives polarized reads that go nowhere and lacks uncertainty about anything.
I don't feel like I can make a compelling argument for you guys to join me. But everyone else who's town knows that this game feels wrong somehow. Despite there being cases, points aren't really being discussed. It's almost like "Who's Line" where everything's made up and the points don't matter. But this is a Star Wars game. Search your feelings. I don't think we're on the right track; you don't think we're on the right track. On September 02 2016 16:41 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
Also what do you mean vivax feels less active? He's like the most active guy in the thread?
What's your reason for mafia reading him exactly? That he's just not tinfoil enough? Like he 'feels' like he's super active. Involved in everything, but has a much shorter filter than I'd expect. It's a scumread for Kita btw. It's a lot of little stuff I mentioned. Like usually I've seen him championing read to 'the known' players to push his read. But that's not so much here. It's drop a case. Do a little. Move on to next target. There's no real stubbornness. Like he's active at end of D1 but not really trying to make a decision. Iirc He's also the first and only to discredit end of D1 as useless. Like earlier, we usually really butt heads or I find his reads retarded. This game he's been ok. I think it was only Dane or TW who commented on his odd read mid D1 I think. I get your points on Palmar, but usually even among us vets, there's some disagreement on how to read the game. It's weird I'm defending palmar, but considering the dynamic of my-you-Koshi-vivax on similar pages with palmar kinda aligned but off on a few specifics in an argumentative way that's pretty odd. Usually the odd ball out is town and one in the circle is scum. And it's one in the circle who half keeps feeding the dissension. Here IMO the dissension looks more to come from vivax than Koshi or you.
It's not much but I feel like there are signs of hope in the bolded statements.
However then we have geripts contributions today.
On September 03 2016 06:58 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 06:45 DanelerH wrote:The person I want to look into right now is Geript. Day 1 was the only time Geript was suspicious of Tumblewood. As the game progressed to Night 1, the list xe gave for most likely being Mafia consisted of Tictock, Palmar, Scott, Race, and myself. + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 15:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Final Vote Count
Votes: - Rels (6) - Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
- Tumblewood (1) - scott31337
- geript (0) -
Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
- scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels,
Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
- Vivax (1) - Race
- DanelerH (1) - geript
Not voting: - HF I think this is a bit closer. Admittedly, quite some time has passed since then, but Geript never claimed suspicion on Tumblewood after the fact. Let's go over changes Geript made to the list: Near the end of Day 2, the two xe was most suspicious of were Vivax and myself. + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2016 03:42 geript wrote:
If rather lynch vivax or Dane. Shortly afterwards, xe stated that Palmar was most likely Town: + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2016 03:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 03:43 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2016 03:42 geript wrote:
If rather lynch vivax or Dane. No you need to make a call on Palmar and stop pussyfooting around his alignment. I think he's town. Assuming there were no other changes to the list, it would probably look something like this: Vivax DanelerH Tictock Scott Despite all of this, Geript voted for Tumblewood. Xe didn't give any reasoning or even a post (except for in the voting thread). Geript, why is this? I'm only voting for this guy. I'm tired of this bs.
On September 05 2016 05:13 geript wrote:
TT and Dane trying to play at mylo after being mostly afk. I'm 100% sure neither of them are scum.
On September 05 2016 06:26 geript wrote:
It's completely sarcasm. It's just one of those things I've always noticed... that afk scum play more as the game ends not less. IDK which of those two I'm voting for but probably dane.
On September 06 2016 02:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 02:30 Palmar wrote:
Yeah no scott is not mafia. His activity today basically pulls him off the table.
@trfel no not happening. Try some other target Activity at mylo is alignment indicative. That's a good joke. Either way, I'm voting Dane. You guys can either vote with me or not. Deal with it.
Which are far less than impressive. Especially the "I'm gunna vote this guy regardless of anything else, deal with it." is super shitty in lylo and geript knows that.
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Votes: - scott31337 (3) -
Tictock, Trfel, DanelerH
- Trfel (3) - scott31337 , Tictock, Koshi
- DanelerH (1) - geript
- Palmar (0) -
Koshi
- geript (3) - Palmar, Holyflare. DanelerH
- TicTock (1) - Trfel
Not voting (0) -
[blue]
Currently, Trfel is the lynch.
Interesting vote count...
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On September 06 2016 05:32 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 05:28 Holyflare wrote:On September 06 2016 05:27 geript wrote:
Koshi, Dane, TT for eog cred You need to consolidate with confirmed town. Vote geript. I bet you end up voting with 2 scum.
On September 06 2016 05:33 geript wrote:
Either way fuck this game. I'll be glad when it ends tonight.
Sigh, yet these feel kinda legit imo.
Ugh, I'm bad at this.
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I guess I'll swap too, I have a bad feeling about this though.
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On September 06 2016 05:52 Tictock wrote:
I guess I'll swap too, I have a bad feeling about this though.
I guess if we are wrong and we lose it won't be all bad. I'll be able to focus on Legion more!
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On September 06 2016 05:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:On September 06 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:On September 06 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote:
If geript and DanelerH are here and willing I would switch to Tictock.
Geript's not even voting to save himself. And I know it's not because the counterwagon is mafia. Tell me why we would switch off geript? If you can't figure it out for yourself, why should I help you? I want him to explain it himself oh infallible reader of trfels
This made me laugh, and thus less nervous about this lynch.
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On September 06 2016 05:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 05:57 Trfel wrote:
Okay, I guess I'll just hope that you guys are right and I am wrong then.
Fortunately, betting against myself tends to be a pretty good strategy. this post has convinced me you're the mafia. I'm switching to trfel
Huh, I kinda like that post.
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On September 06 2016 06:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't think I fucked up?
Nah you were right Geript was the lynch.
Ugh, I hate when my bad feelings turn out to be correct.
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On September 06 2016 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
So according to the rules, this game is over :D. But I'm actually not a 100% sure. It's 3-3 after night, so it's over. Right?
Yea, it's over. You can make an endgame post now.
Who was mafia?
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On September 06 2016 06:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
So according to the rules, this game is over :D. But I'm actually not a 100% sure. It's 3-3 after night, so it's over. Right? It's over  . Normally host posts the winning team and the obs QT and the scum QT with the endgame post
Dam, I knew you were being too reasonable this game.
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[center]The game has ended.
The Empire is victorious. Everyone hail...
Palmar (Greedo the Goon),
Holyflare (Dan Deathma, the Godfather),
and Koshi (Jill Murderous, the Roleblocker)!
Well... I figured out HF... super wrong about every other scumread.
GG, I guess.
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