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On September 02 2016 01:30 DanelerH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 01:28 Holyflare wrote: You gotta be carefreeeeee and say what you remember! Well that's what I advise newer people to do anyway because if you spend a lot of time doing stuff that turns out fruitless after you posted that will feel like wasted effort. I dislike doing that, though. I want to make sure my posts say what I want them to say so I can properly get my point across. That's right, don't take mafia advice
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On September 02 2016 05:58 Koshi wrote: Pfff. I am sad that the people who should show activity aren't doing it.
Palmar. Tfrel. TW. Maybe even Scott.
Come on.
I have made my case. I fine with this house burning down around me.
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This is why Trump works.
We're all perfectly aware of it being insane, but it's fun and it tangentially makes a tiny bit of sense and it feeds our starving paranoia.
So we roll with it!
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I am not mafia, no idea why people still think that's really an option.
I don't have the energy to argue against the train of stupidity that's coming after me. so instead I'll just share what I think is relevant in this game and you guys can then either listen to me now, or you can listen to me later.
Koshi: Almost definitely town. He is, in his own bad way, trying to get the game solved. Also, it's literally his town meta to think I'm mafia and be wrong about it. He's also not just tunneling one thing (for example he's not just tunneling me, he's actually doing other stuff). I liked his case on TW at the time on day 1, although I don't really think TW is mafia but I might be wrong on that. He also gets a massive towncredit for pointing out geript's inconsistency during day 1.
Vivax: Essentially the same as Koshi, effort and stubbornness rating is through the roof compared to what I'd expect of mafia Vivax. He's also being a paranoid baddie which is something he excels at. He has also pointed out inconsistencies (specifically one by geript, I think) that was really good.
Trfel: To me, he's been completely under the radar this game. I might try to open his filter and read it before the evening, but so far I've essentially ignored most of his posts, which is often a good indication that someone is mafia (I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are usually bland and boring).
Scott: I liked one post by him on day 1 so weakest townread ever? I don't really know, another person I have less formed opinion on.
geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen.
Holyflare Another basically lock mafia. I'm almost more sure on him than geript. The main problem is that he barely cared during day 1, no matter how much he wants to make it look like he had a hand in the TW push. Then he came in late, helped with some shenanigans that to me made little sense (why didn't he try to shennie onto geript instead?). But even then he was light on actual content. Then during the night he starts hammering me for literally something he made up (trying to paint me bad for the Rels thing). there is 0% chance holyflare actually thinks what he says he's thinking. He's also quite a bit better at scumhunting than Koshi and Vivax and thus should know better than to think I'm mafia.
TW I don't know much about his posting today, but I sort of agreed with koshi's initial case, but he didn't sound like mafia when we were talking in the thread. So while I'm not gonna go overboard with it, I think he's more likely to be town.
Danieler No idea, not really read his filter much. I think I liked something he said, but I can't remember what or why. Like I don't have him in my mental "these people are scum" group.
Tictock Not really read up on him again. I basically gave him a townread when he posted the gif-reads on day 1 and I've not bothered with him since. Maybe it's time, but I think there's much higher mafia chance people.
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I like TT's summary of HF.
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On September 02 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote: Geript scumreading me is almost too bad to be scum, for Koshi it's the usual tinfoil he has on me, he just can't accept me being town ever.
Fairly standard stuff. I stand by my case (Palmar, TW, scott).
If this shitty martir-y Palmar flips town I don't know if I can save this game the next day. I'm not martyr-ing.
I'm just playing wow.
You really need to wake up and smell the coffee man.
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Why did you only start doing things for real after the flip?
Why did your shennies target Rels?
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Like sure, you posted something on TW that I may have ignored, but that's besides the point, no matter how you look at it, your day 1 wasn't all that much, you had no control over the thread.
Even then what really sticks out to me is the drastic increase in cares after the flip, when it should've almost been the opposite.
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On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote: Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.
When have I ever been lazy after a lynch? I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing.
It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows.
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On September 03 2016 00:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 00:37 Palmar wrote: Why did you only start doing things for real after the flip?
Why did your shennies target Rels? Because I'm out at work from 6 to 7 every day and despite what you say that isn't true. I'm only posting at work recently because i have a doctor note saying i can't type so doing admin The 2nd question. Why Rels?
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Like if it isn't blatantly obvious to everyone in the game, my day 1 push on Rels was only like 10% real and 90% just to do shit to get the game started.
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On September 03 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote: Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.
When have I ever been lazy after a lynch? I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing. It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows. I disagree. Mafia tends to fuck off during the night as well. Night is Night. Massive effort during the night is a lot of the times town driven. Yes, sure.
What I'm saying is that normally town effort is like:
early day: 70% - late day: 100% - night 90%
while mafia is more like
early day: 60% - late day: 800% - night 30%
Of course super simplified, but you get the point and I pose that HF had something of an anomaly in both ways
early day: 50% - late day: 60% - night 100%
Which is just weird. I know it isn't even normal mafia. It just feels wrong. Why did he go ham on me after a flip? Why was his first argument for calling me mafia a vote in which I joined a wagon created by him, and even explained why I did so?
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On September 03 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 00:49 Palmar wrote:On September 03 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:On September 03 2016 00:43 Holyflare wrote: Also because i felt bad for lynching him so upped my effort and the tt inconsistencies drove me on like a puzzle wanting to be solved.
When have I ever been lazy after a lynch? I don't remember that precise meta, but it's not a meta thing. It's just a normal "it makes sense for townies to care during later part of the day and care less during the night" kind of thing. I actually do remember arguing with you for an entire n1 before so who knows. I disagree. Mafia tends to fuck off during the night as well. Night is Night. Massive effort during the night is a lot of the times town driven. Yes, sure. What I'm saying is that normally town effort is like: early day: 70% - late day: 100% - night 90% while mafia is more like early day: 60% - late day: 800% - night 30% Of course super simplified, but you get the point and I pose that HF had something of an anomaly in both ways early day: 50% - late day: 60% - night 100% Which is just weird. I know it isn't even normal mafia. It just feels wrong. Why did he go ham on me after a flip? Why was his first argument for calling me mafia a vote in which I joined a wagon created by him, and even explained why I did so? Cuz you pissed him off calling him mafia while you called me town for something he also did. And you can't blame him for Rels because TW went for the emotion play and Rels made people angry so we swapped. I blame Rels for Rels.
I'm not blaming him, per se, I just want to hear him explain why. I voted Rels.
It's not like I started thinking he wasn't doing things AFTER the lynch. He could have tried to lynch me instead right?
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On September 02 2016 07:24 Vivax wrote:TT probs chose to prioritize WoW, geript has a tough job. Tumble and Palmar tho I can see being afk cuz mafia and demoralized by being incessantly pushed. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iiymtlR.gif) yeah there is no "demotivated" mafia this game with all the blues dead.
Mafia is expecting to win this game, 100%. If they don't, they're bad.
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That's irrelevant, HF was the one, If I remember correctly, who decided "let's shennie on Rels".
I wanna know why. Maybe it's in his filter, I but I cba checking, and I just wanna hear him explain it.
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On September 03 2016 01:31 Vivax wrote: I got one really tough question for Palmar:
Why isn't geript voting for you? Tmi or maybe im terrrible
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On September 03 2016 01:19 Trfel wrote:Caught up with the thread. I really don't know what to do  Part of me wants to lynch Holyflare because I'm being bad and can't find mafia, part of me wants to say that my townread on scott31337 was bad believe in the spreadsheet thing.... Or maybe just stick with Palmar. I guess just stick with Palmar. Because of that one Holyflare post where Palmar can be town and afk, but he can't be town with a scumread on Holyflare and afk. Need to head out now but I'll be back later. This is literally just an excuse for voting me
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On September 03 2016 06:45 DanelerH wrote:The person I want to look into right now is Geript. Day 1 was the only time Geript was suspicious of Tumblewood. As the game progressed to Night 1, the list xe gave for most likely being Mafia consisted of Tictock, Palmar, Scott, Race, and myself. + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2016 15:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Final Vote Count
Votes: - Rels (6) - Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
- Tumblewood (1) - scott31337
- geript (0) -
Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
- scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels,
Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
- Vivax (1) - Race
- DanelerH (1) - geript
Not voting: - HF I think this is a bit closer. Admittedly, quite some time has passed since then, but Geript never claimed suspicion on Tumblewood after the fact. Let's go over changes Geript made to the list: Near the end of Day 2, the two xe was most suspicious of were Vivax and myself. + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2016 03:42 geript wrote: If rather lynch vivax or Dane. Shortly afterwards, xe stated that Palmar was most likely Town: + Show Spoiler +On September 03 2016 03:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 03:43 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2016 03:42 geript wrote: If rather lynch vivax or Dane. No you need to make a call on Palmar and stop pussyfooting around his alignment. I think he's town. Assuming there were no other changes to the list, it would probably look something like this: Vivax DanelerH Tictock Scott Despite all of this, Geript voted for Tumblewood. Xe didn't give any reasoning or even a post (except for in the voting thread). Geript, why is this?
Hi, welcome to the real world
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