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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 31 2016 15:31 GMT
#1041
Palmar is acting unusually for him, but that's not necessarily mafia. not quite sure how to feel about it; I'm used to wagon of justice Palmar and all I get this game is normal player Palmar. and the no brakes train to loseville sounds like it fits pretty well with my playstyle.
good times for all
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:32 GMT
#1042
oh the bit on tw also had him saying he wants a dead dane, just 1 sentence b4 that, too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:34 GMT
#1043
random tinfoil:
why is vivax only going after easy targets?
scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 15:35 GMT
#1044
On September 01 2016 00:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
-snip-

On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read


Wait, WTF???? This:

On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

-snip-

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive.

I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him.


The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia.

Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.

Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies.

his last stance on tw b4 the lynch was:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Hey yeh so the bad thing that is almost definitely ego thing is that palmar sheeps koshi's tw case and then ignores that I've posted one and hasn't town read me.

That's pretty scummy.

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.

his last stance on tw was this:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 17:33 geript wrote:
Dane's kinda an odd duck. Everything is black and white as if he types sitting in proper posture. He just doesn't look comfy; being new, I'm guessing, it's a bit understandable. It's very odd to me that his opinions are so polarized while not coming across as confident. Idk about him, but I think he's the best fall back option available. We're not likely to get any better info or post on him, so just lynch him if there's not a better target.


I do not like him throwing his vote at dane, when it was 5-4 between scott and tw.
I also do not like you misrepresenting him super hard, when he only is on 2 pages on filter and this stuff is super easy to see.


Ad geript quote 1:
Why is he making everything dependent on what others wrote about TW if he scumread him all by himself earlier?Shouldn't he have a hard on on TW already?

Ad geript quote 2: What's telling you that he's talking about TW in a post in which he's clearly talking about TW?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 15:36 GMT
#1045
EBWOP:

Ad geript quote 2: What's telling you that he's talking about TW in a post in which he's clearly talking about Danieler.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 15:38 GMT
#1046
On September 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar is acting unusually for him, but that's not necessarily mafia. not quite sure how to feel about it; I'm used to wagon of justice Palmar and all I get this game is normal player Palmar. and the no brakes train to loseville sounds like it fits pretty well with my playstyle.


This post is a whole lot of nothing. What did you hope to accomplish posting this?

- Palmar weird but doesn't mean anything to you.
- Ends with martir-y "boo I suck" sentence.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:41 GMT
#1047
On September 01 2016 00:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:29 disformation wrote:
On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
-snip-

On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read


Wait, WTF???? This:

On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

-snip-

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive.

I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him.


The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia.

Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.

Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies.

his last stance on tw b4 the lynch was:
On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Hey yeh so the bad thing that is almost definitely ego thing is that palmar sheeps koshi's tw case and then ignores that I've posted one and hasn't town read me.

That's pretty scummy.

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.

his last stance on tw was this:
On August 30 2016 17:33 geript wrote:
Dane's kinda an odd duck. Everything is black and white as if he types sitting in proper posture. He just doesn't look comfy; being new, I'm guessing, it's a bit understandable. It's very odd to me that his opinions are so polarized while not coming across as confident. Idk about him, but I think he's the best fall back option available. We're not likely to get any better info or post on him, so just lynch him if there's not a better target.


I do not like him throwing his vote at dane, when it was 5-4 between scott and tw.
I also do not like you misrepresenting him super hard, when he only is on 2 pages on filter and this stuff is super easy to see.


Ad geript quote 1:
Why is he making everything dependent on what others wrote about TW if he scumread him all by himself earlier?Shouldn't he have a hard on on TW already?

Ad geript quote 2: What's telling you that he's talking about TW in a post in which he's clearly talking about TW?


1: not necessary. that read was super old and he wasn't in thread for ages. though I grant, that is something I would like geript to explain himself.
2:
On September 01 2016 00:30 disformation wrote:
second tw = dane

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 15:45 GMT
#1048
And where in all of this I'm misrepresenting geript? Why are you throwing scum at me for making inquiries?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:48 GMT
#1049
On September 01 2016 00:45 Vivax wrote:
And where in all of this I'm misrepresenting geript? Why are you throwing scum at me for making inquiries?

I am throwing scum at you for HOW you make the inquiries.
And you were ignoring a) the latest stuff geript posted b4 the deadline/lynch and b) the possibility that his reads have changed because you pulled out some really old stuff
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:49 GMT
#1050
I am not disagreeing with the fact that his vote on dane is super bleh.
but you are ignoring some stuff geript posted, aka cherry picking
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 15:53 GMT
#1051
On September 01 2016 00:49 disformation wrote:
I am not disagreeing with the fact that his vote on dane is super bleh.
but you are ignoring some stuff geript posted, aka cherry picking


Yes I'm picking stuff that would be an argument for him being scum. If you think there's other stuff that makes him town then feel free to present it, but apparently you're just as clueless as I am about his read on TW, so your argument is nil.

It's not cherrypicking when I look for scummy stuff in people's filters.

What are you doing disfo?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 15:57 GMT
#1052
On September 01 2016 00:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:49 disformation wrote:
I am not disagreeing with the fact that his vote on dane is super bleh.
but you are ignoring some stuff geript posted, aka cherry picking


Yes I'm picking stuff that would be an argument for him being scum. If you think there's other stuff that makes him town then feel free to present it, but apparently you're just as clueless as I am about his read on TW, so your argument is nil.

It's not cherrypicking when I look for scummy stuff in people's filters.

What are you doing disfo?

no that is scummy. town looks at shit from different angles. which incidentally is why I waffle like a mofo as town (sry for the #selfmeta).
all you are doing is looking for things that further your narrative or your agenda. as you just admitted.

and i am apparently wasting my time arguing with you.

also vca 5/11 done.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 16:05 GMT
#1053
What would my agenda be? Finding mafia?

Do you see any other reason for me posting the most at night looking outside of the scumreads I claimed to have earlier other than to look at stuff from different angles?

All I could do is rehash how scott is mafia (which btw I still think is likely), pointing out how his wagon was clearly not one of the wagons mafia wanted to pursue, a flipped townie being on it further cementing this version.

Yet I'm here diving geript's filter.

Then you appear, tell me that it's cherrypicking and misrepresenting, but clearly have no better argument on reading geript, make a mistake in the process (mistaking danieler for TW), admit that geript's read on TW needs clarification, proving all your points to be wrong.

Prompted to explain why geript is town (you think I'm misrepresenting him right?) you just repeat how I'm mafia and run away with the tail between your legs and an excuse to not further engage in discussion and explain things.

Maybe you are mafia after all.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 31 2016 16:08 GMT
#1054
On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote:
random tinfoil:
why is vivax only going after easy targets?
scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play.

to be entirely fair vivax wants to lynch me.

That's not really an easy target. And I don't think anyone is actually serious about lynching me other than Vivax and HF, but hf is mafia so that barely counts.
Computer says mafia
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 16:09 GMT
#1055
On September 01 2016 01:05 Vivax wrote:
What would my agenda be? Finding mafia?

Do you see any other reason for me posting the most at night looking outside of the scumreads I claimed to have earlier other than to look at stuff from different angles?

All I could do is rehash how scott is mafia (which btw I still think is likely), pointing out how his wagon was clearly not one of the wagons mafia wanted to pursue, a flipped townie being on it further cementing this version.

Yet I'm here diving geript's filter.

Then you appear, tell me that it's cherrypicking and misrepresenting, but clearly have no better argument on reading geript, make a mistake in the process (mistaking danieler for TW), admit that geript's read on TW needs clarification, proving all your points to be wrong.

Prompted to explain why geript is town (you think I'm misrepresenting him right?) you just repeat how I'm mafia and run away with the tail between your legs and an excuse to not further engage in discussion and explain things.

Maybe you are mafia after all.

finding easy misslynches and looking like you are doing work.
WIFOM.
cool so did I, thats why I found your omission.
WOW THAT MISTAKE IS CLEARLY MAKING ME SCUM

also you are clearly trying to piss me off, what is another scum strat.
it is also working.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 16:09 GMT
#1056
AND DONT FUCKING DARE TO SUGGEST THAT I AM DOING NOTHING AND AM RUNNING AWAY
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 16:10 GMT
#1057
Tell me more about geript being an easy mislynch.

Tell Palmar about it too while you're at it, he's the guy he wants to lynch, and whom you are calling an easy mislynch for no reason.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 31 2016 16:11 GMT
#1058
Maybe Tumble is town after all... Disfo Palmar scott ezpz?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 16:11 GMT
#1059
plamar
has already been questioned and pressured about his vote. if scum not for his vote.
vote suspiciousness: low
tw:
the voting itself is fine. votes scott to save himself and then switches to rels cause he didn't think scott is scum. though this statement is very waffly:
On August 31 2016 05:50 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't even think Scott and geript are scum anymore
well, by game logic I think one of them has to be

Also has weird reads around eod, so he really needs to step it up D2.
vote suspiciousness: low-medium
koshi
really likes the tw lynch. switches after rels dun goofed. think koshis reactions are genuine and indicate he cared about the lynch. he also was on Rels earlier D1.
So I think this looks okay.
vote suspiciousness: low-medium
vivi
leads scott lynch all day. wasnt around at eod. so far looks perfectly fine and reasonable, but this post:
On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 23:57 Race Bannon wrote:
On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts.

It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good?

I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens.


Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed.

super confuses me. despite leading the scott wagon all day and not buckling with his vote he is a bit like "oh nah, I dont really care which one of the two gets lynchend."
Dunno. I would have expected him to care a bit more about scott? Or even if you scumread both, push a bit for the one who you think has the hgher chance to flip scum? Well, he never unvoted scott, but it kinda gets my paranoia going.
vote suspiciousness: medium
geript
had his long stretch of voting me despite giving me a bunch of town points in his latest batch.
and then votes dane? well it is in line with him having not much scum reads and these posts:
On August 30 2016 17:33 geript wrote:
Dane's kinda an odd duck. Everything is black and white as if he types sitting in proper posture. He just doesn't look comfy; being new, I'm guessing, it's a bit understandable. It's very odd to me that his opinions are so polarized while not coming across as confident. Idk about him, but I think he's the best fall back option available. We're not likely to get any better info or post on him, so just lynch him if there's not a better target.

On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Hey yeh so the bad thing that is almost definitely ego thing is that palmar sheeps koshi's tw case and then ignores that I've posted one and hasn't town read me.

That's pretty scummy.

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.

and I guess some ppl were considering dane sheannanies, but still feels a bit odd, to throw out a vote like this, when it is really close between TW and scott at the time.
That was the VC right before geripts vote:+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2016 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Vote Count #7
[image loading]



Votes:
  • Rels (0) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (1) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (5) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (2) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon

Not voting: -

Currently, Tumblewood is set to be lynched.




Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host.

Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).



still going to keep it at a medium, cause it lines up with his thought progression and he legit seems to be screwed on time.
vote suspiciousness: medium
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 31 2016 16:12 GMT
#1060
not sure if ill do the rest im pissed.
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