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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 17:06 GMT
#1088
FOr fucks sake Race

Cheating:

5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 17:12 GMT
#1094
So Koshi has been here all along?
Boring, afk Koshi, bad Koshi. I was thinking about trying to summon you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 17:15 GMT
#1098
On September 01 2016 02:13 Koshi wrote:
I have been here the entire day.


Your take on solving the game? I'm genuinely interested.
Or are you saving it for post-night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 18:10 GMT
#1110
You went through that effort for a person that's going to flip at the end of the night? Wtf dude
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 20:08 GMT
#1131
anyone tring scott should just be deeply adhamed. koshiprobs didnt even read him but only puts him there cuz hes my scumreaf
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 20:12 GMT
#1137
scott: " ill be around in a while". grand total of 2 super meaningless posts. imagine when hes not goong to be around
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 20:14 GMT
#1138
entire thread also forgot his geript scumread putta nowhere and the fact tht the scott wagon is probably the purest there was
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 21:03 GMT
#1144
Outstanding blue performance xD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 21:14 GMT
#1149
back to scott tw palmar team with geript offchance for me then
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
August 31 2016 21:30 GMT
#1152
you were semi afk, tumble only defended himself, palmar pushed for geript. all within mafia behaciour boumdaries.

and koshi is town cause gut feeling. is he your suspect trfel?

on phone btw
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 00:38 GMT
#1166
On September 01 2016 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
Not sure what Vivax even thinks about geript. He talked to Palmar about geript but never took a stance about it himself. All super weak stuff.


Genuinely interested in this vivax please enlighten me.

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 06:07 scott31337 wrote:
There goes an extra lynch too


Also little things like this throw me off. Maybe it's just me but I never pay attention to how many extra lynches we have.

Also Scott now is the time, my body is ready, enlighten us with your spreadsheet plz.


It's more like I talked towards Palmar about it cause he never replies to what I write. For which I will gladly lynch him given the chance (besides that I think he's mafia).

My stance on geript is that I found inconsistencies, but so did I about scott and sometimes townies are inconsistent too. I've pushed enough people over an incosistency to watch them flip town to my dismay.

For scott I posted an entire wall of text that seems to me like textbook mafia play comparing him to an actual mafia, for geript I didn't. I simply found the part that looked like it didn't make sense to me. For scott I have a much more confident opinion cause I feel like I didn't find a single argument, but savoured his entire filter enough to let me believe he's mafia.

I'm still in the TW/Palmar/scott world, where geript MIGHT be mafia instead of Palmar. But I'm not going anywhere before we lynch scott.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 00:43 GMT
#1167
On September 01 2016 09:32 Trfel wrote:
The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?

I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.

I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.

So this really confuses me.


You're just the hero I deserved. The shitty part about this game is that if you start making inquiries about people who suspect you, they start calling you a discreditor or dismiss all you write as omgus (disfo being the best example). I even admit to suspecting people who throw scum at me almost instinctively, which is why my play is the weakest when a lot of people suspect me. It just creates too many distractions for me to handle.

Sure I could just not give a fuck and do it anyway but I've learned that it mostly hurts my already not very popular opinions. So while I do my scott thing you do this Koshi thing and we're gucci.

Hope you enjoyed this post of self-awareness. Scum surely can learn something from it when it comes to tilting me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 00:48 GMT
#1168
A bit of my possibly biased take on scott not voting to save himself. This is really just semi-useful cause it won't give us any non-speculative leads, but I'm in a talkative mood.

1. He was afraid of looking badly switching to Rels.
2. Being mafia with tumble, he was hoping on harvesting some cred later after TW would flip. "oh look hes the only guy on mafia at EoD"

Either way, scott is a top tier lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 01:03 GMT
#1170
I hate that EoD analysis is so unreliable to form reads. When I read TW that seems to be magically townread now I could bring up a shitton of things that might make him mafia, but given he was under such pressure no matter his alignment he literally was doing anything he could, without boundaries or concerns for his own appeareance.

He votes scott briefly right after townreading him and geript (to save himself), and when EVERYONE ELSE already switched to Rels, he switches with them.

Who does he switch with? With his scumreads Koshi and HF from that time.

It's such a bad looking play that I'd have vigged him given the chance but since it wasn't really a standard situation I don't feel like I can be very confident using this.

On September 01 2016 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Lol why do you think i force people to call me town? It's so I can concentrate and not get distracted. Hence mafia palmar trying to tilt me into an argument to fit his "meta" crap post he posted earlier about me.

Basically the people that are mafia this game are the ones that are just calling me mafia-ish with no real conviction and leaving the door open for later (ticktock) and the guy with no real conviction to lynch anyone and calls me mafia for what reason exactly? which is not normal (palmar)

+probably scott but maybe not but probably


Idk geript had a point when he said that it looks like TT is having fun playing the game. And I don't quite see him being the first person to call me mafia.
If you really only go by that logic you're admitting to being fully omgus driven.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 01:15 GMT
#1173
Yea my TT read is probably lazy and shit but I like my current team too much. Nobody can compete with TW and scott in terms of scumminess atm and there's just too much wench and glory to be had in correctly scumreading Palmar who does look like scum.

Koshi even spelled it out pretty well, why Palmar is mafia. Additionally, the soft bus from TW and scott and the fact that Palmar seems to ignore everything they do even though he voted TW earlier (and it was too late for it to be a Palmar troll-vote) seals the deal for me.

With this I think I'll peace out, every time I'm here I'm feeling like I'm talking to a wall with exception of HF. In the earlier days threads resonated like crazy *mumble mumble*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 13:02 GMT
#1238
Good morning.
Pondering how to start off productively into this new day.

1. Koshi scumreading me irritates me but I don't think that summing up reason why I'm not scum will help much here. He's as much a granite head as I am.

2. Scott found a reason to TR me for one post and blames me for the cop playing badly. His summary of reasons for me being mafia that doesn't just involve one post would be useful. His spreadsheet too, it seems to be a well kept secret.

3. I believe geript is busy AF. I also agree with him pointing out that we tend to bash heads as town, as I pointed out D1. I'm perfectly happy with this being one of the games where we don't. BUT, the thing I pointed out from the night is something he apparently missed and I'd like that answered.
It seems so far back that by now this wouldn't be my only strategy to read him, I can probably go for a read encompassing larger portions of his filter. One thing at a time, tho.

@ GERIPT

+ Show Spoiler +

On September 01 2016 00:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
-snip-

On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read


Wait, WTF???? This:

On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

-snip-

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:
On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive.

I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him.


The worst I found is this. Geript goes WTF on TW, then ends up calling TT's reason to TR somebody terrible. No mention of TW at all here. His comment wasn't as WTF as it looks to be, it's rather ignored to jump to what TT said. Yet geript somehow ends up putting TW as mafia.

Later asks somebody to give him a summary for why TW is mafia when he's already supposed to have his own. Can't find any besides an earlier mention of minus points for TW refusing to explain Palmar suspicion.

Main point still is that geript had TW as scum for unclear reasons earlier, which he completely forgot around EoD when he wasted his vote on Danieler when he could have at least lynched scott for giving him the heebiejeebies.



4. Good time to redive scott and draw comparisons to other scummers.

5. Tumble dropped off massively, looks worse by the hour activity wise, and his night post was just terrible.

6. Palmar + TW wagons are tempting but why does it always have to be the guys I didn't write a massive case on? BLergh.

Off to reading.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 13:04 GMT
#1239
And TickTock? WtH happened to TickTock? He didn't post a single thing for over 24 h.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 13:20 GMT
#1241
I'm reading scott's last two games (both town) , and meta wise he's off too.

In comparison this game he started in a very very awful manner. His questions at the beginning of this game are just scummy as shit, as I pointed out earlier. They lack direction, they leave everything open to interpretation, they don't actually seem to want an answer back. It's literally just mindless question spam at the beginning to look like he's contributing, with the "Palmar is extremely suspicious" BS post.

Then his post where he checks Rels meta "just for fun" that ends up concluding that mafia Rels talks about something that doesn't give information but yet he concludes that Palmar's case could be a good idea when he's literally stating that Rels as mafia wouldn't post anything at all.

Read my D1 case jesus. I can go on and on and on about scott but I don't trust this town enough to even want to read it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?user=scott31337&view=all

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?user=scott31337&view=all

His 2 town games, for you but especially for me when I want to take a look at them again.

Reminder that his game start is super scummy this game, but not solely based on these.

On August 29 2016 06:08 scott31337 wrote:
Woohoo! Let's do this.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:
Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL.

I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row


Hmmmm- would Trfel be this bold? Or a big bag of WIFOM?


On August 29 2016 06:46 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia.

please enlighten me.
for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him?

Ah fantastic.

No, it's absolutely not a meta thing.

You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things.

But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves.

He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia.


So just for fun, I checked Rel's two last games as Mafia that are in the database -http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494436&user=Rels&view=all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494873&user=Rels&view=all

So one was Palmar's witch game where he comes in and starts talking about game setup crap for an entrance (well can't really do that here)
and the other he starts just talking shit

Rels doesn't enter games with any information, he usually just talks.

This could be a good idea.



On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote:
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory.


This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP.

Did you roll mafia again?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 14:05 GMT
#1242
On August 31 2016 03:12 scott31337 wrote:
Townie:
Palmar
Trfel
Koshi
Disformation

Wouldn't Lynch today:
Danelerh
Holyflare
Race Bannon

Stil unsure:
TicTock

WTF:
Vivax

Would lynch:
Tumblewood
Rels
Geript


You might also notice he was one of the two calling Palmar weird and suspicious for posting on a weekend but ends up putting him in the townie category in his list here. At the very least we should expect a null Palmar here. Calling BS on this one there is no explanation for scott townreading Palmar when his entire earlier posts pointed to the contrary.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
September 01 2016 14:43 GMT
#1246
Oh Palmar is around?

##Vote Palmar
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