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Rels:
Eh still not much to go off of, but I don't hate anything he's saying. I feel like I can clearly see where he is coming from on people even though he's not really saying a lot.
## Unvote Since there isn't any pressure there anyways now and I'm not ready to murder Rels yet this game.
Geript:
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Feeling's unchanged. I thought it was very odd how Geript laid down a vote on Disinfo so quickly but had so little to backup his scumread. There is also no sense that he really cares about his scum reads with the disparities pointed out already and the fact that he is pushing Disinfo so little. I'm not sold he's lock scum but he's a solid lynch option.
Tumblewood:
Here is another read I'm totally flipping on. Tumblewood's read progression doesn't make any sense to me. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 11:13 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote: wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody. Could you tell me more? I hadn't noticed that everyone had posted. Points to you for paying attention. why is that a townlean ... OH SHIT tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred or not, maybe tinfoil's scott as scum
+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote: meh I like scott now On August 29 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote: new scott > afk scott and is also probably town now likes scott for not being afk, also implies he wasn't joking about scott possibly being scum + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 03:08 Tumblewood wrote: yes. compared to newbie xxi, in which he is much more attack-y. definitely seeing more similarity to his scum meta and his town meta. got 'em boys next target: palmar or holyflare Starts scum reading me though he got lazy in building his meta, suggests palmar or holyflare are his next suspects.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: town vivax daneler
also probably town hf
scummy tt scott?
null/don't care yet most people
Suddenly Scott is scummy again, HF is town despite no new mentions, and apparently doesn't care about Palmar.
I'm tempted to go off on a tinfoil here, but I'll try to hold off because it's fairly associative. There is definitely something weird going on with Tumble though, I thought maybe he was just being lazy town but it's looking worse.
Definitely feels like a good lynch.
##Vote: Tumblewood
DanelerH:
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Another person my feeling is unchanged on. He just seems like a newbie trying to find his footing. It's weak but I like how he jumped out the gate going for Koshi and has pushed some of his thoughts.
I'd like to see his thoughts on more people though, there is plenty of room in his play to be scum trying to skate by.
scott31337:
I still have mixed feelings about scott, looking over his filter again I can understand the suspicions on him. The stuff I saw from him early on still feels pretty casual and care free to me, but there really wasn't as much contribution as I thought.
A few of his conclusions are weird like the one about Rels' meta and I disagree Palamr playing the game at any point in time is cause for concern. Nothing really stands out too much for me though.
I'm not sure I like his responses to Vivax's pressure though.
So the thing I need to figure out is why you posted this "case" - You had a slight townlean on you, so do you actually believe in it because you are town, or are people getting on the right track and you need to distract them (but you voted #2 on Rels, so Im doubtful it's because you and rels would be teammates then) I love how you make me asking about D's time zone as you did - I wanted to know if he was in the Europe crowd or the NA/US crowd, that's it
Doesn't make any sense to me, and the rest of his responses are meh.
Still don't think I'd lynch scott today.
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On August 30 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote: Tictock, why are you more willing to lynch geript than Rels? Is it just the inconsistencies between his posts and the conclusion, or is there something else?
It is partially just feels, on the surface the both just did the same thing but Rels string of thoughts flowed better into his conclusions. Geript has the inconsistencies but also did little to focus on his scum reads or any reads infact, compare to Rels who put down a decent bit about each of his scum reads.
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On August 30 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote: ah tru I am known for being erratic as scum and clear as town
Actually I do think you are pretty clear as town, not an open book by any means but usually it's easy to see where your head is at and what you are bringing to the table.
This game you are hanging back despite calling yourself out for it, and the only thing noteworthy you have brought up is a couple of posts to possibly support the meta that I'm not friendly as town. Even then you trailed off without really showing it to be a solid meta, and the read was borrowed from something Trfel posted in the first place.
So yea throwing out a piss-poor reads list that doesn't even track with the reads you've been giving out so far is pretty scummy.
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On August 30 2016 15:38 Trfel wrote: Hey, so if anyone has any questions or wants to talk about anything, let me know. Otherwise, Tictock, I asked you a question in post #583, if you're not going to answer it I'd at least appreciate it if you would just say that?
I'll be reading some stuff.
I wasn't really aware that you asked a question, just said that you didn't believe I was more ok with Rels than Geript. I can't think of anything else to expand on since both of them are fairly low volume posters this game and both did the same kinda catchup into summary post without much else.
If you disagree that's fine, it's not like I have a strong read on either of them. Though I am curiuse who you are thinking should be the lynch today. Are you thinking Rels is scum for mostly focusing on hot topic people at the time?
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Fair warning though, I'm unlikely to be very responsive for the next few hours.
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On August 30 2016 15:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 15:53 Tictock wrote: Fair warning though, I'm unlikely to be very responsive for the next few hours. Wait!!! Can I get like five minutes to pester you with several more annoying questions? First of which being, when you townread Tumblewood for the Koshi/Race Bannon/Tumblewood associative read thing (can link it if you need), what was it about Tumblewood's post that makes you say that it's more of a town mindset? Because I'm really not sure what you're getting at. As to who I want to lynch... working on it. But for now I'm thinking not you, if that helps
Only a minuet, but yet I remember that one.
It felt kinda towny to be tracking reads like that, in retrospect it's really not indicative since scum would be hyper aware of who is scum reading them so seeing his name next to koshi's in someone's scum list would stand out.
This kinda just makes me hate Tumble's last list post more since RB was one of the people totally left off, and I think that was their only interaction.
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I'm gunna catchup and see whats going on after one more questline, I promise.
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On August 30 2016 15:59 Trfel wrote:@Tictock, might as well ask all of my questions now. Early on, you said that you thought that both I and disformation were town. Why did you say this? Why did you move Holyflare from "null" into "don't lynch"? And I know that this question seems dumb, but if you wouldn't mind explaining a bit more of what it is about Vivax's passion over the scott31337 lynch that makes you townread him? Like, why can't he be mafia that is strongly pushing scott31337? Thanks
I liked the interaction between you two at the start of the game. I felt like you started off trying to push the game forward in a few different ways. Dis seems a lot like his town self, he seems to be genially trying to solve the game. You both were pretty easy early townreads for me.
Tbh I'm still not really past null on HF, but he's approaching the game in a way that I can appreciate and is doing stuff to push the game forward. Reason enough to not lynch him today.
As for Vivax it's the combination of his reaction's to me and the way he's been pushing his reads. Granted I don't think I've seen what it looks like when scum!Vivax puts effort into the game but his reactions to my scumread reminded me a lot of a game where we tunneled each other hard D1.
On August 30 2016 16:06 Trfel wrote:And Tictock, one more thing..... In this post, where you vote for Tumblewood, when did you decide that you were going to vote for Tumblewood?
After I'd made the rest of the post, posts like that I preview and edit a little before posting.
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On August 30 2016 17:22 geript wrote: I'm going to say this to everyone once. Asking questions of me will be useless this game. I will address what I want to. I'll try to be around at deadline but it's unlikely to happen given my schedule. I'm going to talk about what I want to/feel I need to when I have time to. If you don't like it, then you can lynch me.
This plus some of geripts other posts around this time make me not want to lynch him either.
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On August 30 2016 18:50 disformation wrote: was skimming a bit through some tw and tt filters in other games. tw doesn't really look like either his town or scum games imo. for tt i need to find a recent town game. there are similarities to his scum play in shin megami tensai, but those are rather shallow imo. like his entry does look similar and his lists look similar.
Just to be clear, why did you lose your earlier townread on me?
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Skimming a bit more now so I don't run out of time.
On August 31 2016 00:10 Vivax wrote: I am perfectly happy with the scum triangle scott, TW, Palmar. You read it here first!
You know, I actually kinda like the tinfoil you went through to get here Vivax. Though this much association D1 is probably terrible.
I'm gunna stick with Koshi's plan of leaving Palmar be till D3 though.
I was correct to put Race Bannon in a category of his own, pretty sure he's gunna stay there all game.
Was kinda iffy about Dis' suddenly wanting to make a case about Vivax over that one post, but the way he pushed and then changed his mind feels a lot like town who thought they had something for a moment.
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On August 31 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 01:40 DanelerH wrote:On August 30 2016 13:03 Tumblewood wrote:On August 30 2016 12:30 DanelerH wrote: That reminds me. Tumblewood, in addition to Palmar, you also suspected Koshi of being Mafia. Why are they suddenly under "null/don't care yet"? it's a weak suspicion. mostly my reaction when someone slips into the town category in my mind and then I think "oh, maybe they could be scum" or "why am I townreading them" One more question for you, then. Why are your reads on Scott so erratic? mostly as a result of me changing my mind based on new information brought to light
I hope you can or do explain what information was changing your mind.
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On August 31 2016 02:07 Tumblewood wrote: you have all these great cases on scott too, right in front of your eyes. and you ignore them for the bs on me. I'm voting scott btw if you want to join me
What happened to your scum read on me?
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On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote: fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.
What about his responses make you think he's town?
Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.
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On August 31 2016 02:25 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 02:08 Vivax wrote: Tumble now would be a good time to explain why you semi-called Palmar mafia and then refused to explain. Not that it means much to me that you refused, it's more relevant why you and scott were intent on calling him mafia but not going after him for no reason except what could have been sloppy distancing. I never called Palmar mafia - quite the contrary, I called it extremely suspicious that he was posting on a weekend. Are you just making shit up to suit your agenda now?
Wtf is this post?
Calling something "extremely suspicious" is definitely suggesting someone is mafia.
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I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.
Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.
I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.
Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now.
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On August 31 2016 05:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote: Reread TW his last 2 pages and he is giving us nothing... He just plays on emotions. Trying to survive. I'm giving meds in between reading, can you give me like a point by point on why you think he's scum. so I can think about it while I filter him.
Lynch is in 20 min, this is a bit of a tall order. Also Koshi made a case not that long ago.
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On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote: honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now or maybe hf circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed
Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game.
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Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.
I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.
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On August 31 2016 05:51 Rels wrote: I've read Scott geript and tw filter and I want a geript lynch Tumble had some townie reactions not long ago Scott last read list is like exactly mine with my name instead of his name. He could be town for that Geript has done nothing after his two tryhard posts that had inconsistency in it. I think he is the more likely to flip scum FTR I also really dislike the way tt is pushing tumble lynch, he is missing some kind of doubts townie usually have
Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified.
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