[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia - Page 2

On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:

This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself.

On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me

On August 29 2016 06:47 disformation wrote:
Yes Vivax much town. wow.

On August 29 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote:
Scott, whats got you so active this game?

I mean I like it, it's just not what I'm used to.

On August 29 2016 12:05 Tictock wrote:


Yep that's what I got from skimming them.

And geript is a cool dude who should post more... when he can I guess.... sigh

On August 29 2016 12:14 Tictock wrote:
By the way Scott...


What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB?

On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:

why is that a townlean

...

OH SHIT
tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred
or not, maybe

On August 29 2016 21:50 Vivax wrote:
Methinks we are all on a wrong track atm. We were until I found enlightenment.

Spoilered road to enlightenment.
+ Show Spoiler +
So I'll go right ahead and tell you who our D1 lynch is. It's scott.

What I noticed in Grack in the other game was that he tended to attach to a lot of issues simultaneously by posting semi contributive posts that tended to end with questions , then he would jump to other issues the actual townies were talking about without pursuing the previously happened discussion. He would also occasionally post jokish stuff.

So if I had to make a summary of how mafia played:

- no own agenda, just reacting to townies and their topics.
- no committment to what he said.
- liked opportunities to start talking about hogwash.
- + one could go on about finding similarities.

Anyway, let me proceed with formulating how all of this actually makes scott mafia.

THE CASE ON SCOTT

Question that doesn't show any own opinion and is left unattended for the rest of his posts. It was just the hot topic at the time so he drops it to appear invested.

Random reactive question that seems irrelevant even to himself. Check.



Simply mirrors what Koshi said in his next post. Apparently thinks I'm mafia with Trfel but so far he didn't even spell it out once.

Low committment to his declared opinion. Check.



Random low seriousness post. Check.



Just for fun he checks Rels last two games.

He comes to a completely different conclusion than Palmar. Bolded.
"Wait, Rels actually just talks about unimportant stuff as mafia early".BUT
"Palmar could have a good idea" even though what Palmar is saying is that Rels doesn't talk.

Appeasing and weak opinion that isn't in line with his findings. Check.



I have trouble understanding this but I think what scott is saying here is that Trfel would find easier targets as mafia. Anyway this is his chance to get back to talk about Trfel's entrance but he doesn't take it even though he appeared to be interested into it earlier.

Another reactionary post to (what I think) a townie said. Check.



Not "This post doesn't make any sense, you are mafia!", but "are you mafia again?". Hiding behind questions to not have to do anything even with a good reason to. Check.



His buddy? How is HF even supposed to be his buddy. Scott doesn't have an own agenda HF could support. Check.



Random question.



Useless question.



COol, now he's talking about our timezones. He apparently thinks that knowing Danielers timezone he can get information about his alignment?



Random questions.



Random questions.

Back to the earlier posts, don't you think he should have me and Trfel as scummy? Do you see anything of the sort in his later posts? Nope .

Rest of his filter is short enough that you can go through it by yourself, but scott is mafiAAAAAAAA and we have to lynch him. Pls help me lynch him town

On August 30 2016 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
Enough talking about geript and tw, let's focus on you know, the rest of the game?

Dane comes in and can only focuses on one person to vote (geript) but it's basically a sheep, returns and seems annoyed that they got called out and maintain that they are still voting geript when voti

On August 30 2016 06:08 Race Bannon wrote:

Ok, I've had it with the references to that game.

vote: Koshi

On August 30 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Koshi said mafia is disconnected from the flow of the thread. I disagree. Grack in 72h wasn't disconnected from it, he was just following it but never having a strong opinion about anything. Pretty much what scott was doing in this game to a tee.

Apparently he agreed with disfo about me and Trfel being buds together or something but that line of thought is not pursued in the slightest afterwards.

I'm just repeating myself I think so I'll keep sitting here until scott dies, I might just sheep Palmar or HF later but I'm not afraid of being the only vote on scott at EoD if I feel like it. So I dnu. Vote scott or gtfo for now. The case stands and so far I've only seen stronlgy subjective remarks to it that don't match my level of effort in making it in the slightest and will be dismissed as such.

On August 30 2016 06:53 Vivax wrote:
One more thing that came to my mind seeing the votecount.

It's already mafia indicative that he's still sitting on the Rels wagon when it lost steam. Townies all went looking for better stuff when they had more information available. Palmar gave potential mafia a very easy wagon to switch to, but a hard one to get away from without putting in effort.

The remnants you're seeing on the Rels wagon are the fishlets who got stuck in the bait and don't have the muscle to break free. I'll bother about making a call on TT later cause until scott dies I'm in a strike.

On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote:
Caught up. I want to lynch one of:
- scott: see Vivax case. Very disconnected to any pushes this game but posts random questions + have a very bad reason to vote me, since his "meta analysis" should indicate Palmar's "reason" to push me was not supported by meta, yet he acted like it did. As a counter to Koshi, scott has an habit of making spreadsheet so it's not impossible he's making one as town to replicate his meta.
- tumble: not involved in the game. Has random posts about different things / people but there is no continuous thought process to be seen. He's just posting whatever is in his head, which is scum indicative. In particular, his TT post was one I liked and agreed with, but like everything else he posted about he posted about something else afterwards.
- TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum.
- geript: two big posts that are meh and contains two things that don't make sense. First, the thing above about Trfel. Second, the thing about RB being likely townie but being in his scumlist. His explanation makes little sense, he should use every information at his disposal to find scum. I know I find RB's posts about his PM to be borderline cheating but he didn't do it on purpose and he's confirmed town now.

On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:
Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun.

As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness.

Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted.



This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons".

##vote: Vivax



If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.

Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case.



If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x


I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.


No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.


This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum.

Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today.

On August 31 2016 02:08 Vivax wrote:
Tumble now would be a good time to explain why you semi-called Palmar mafia and then refused to explain. Not that it means much to me that you refused, it's more relevant why you and scott were intent on calling him mafia but not going after him for no reason except what could have been sloppy distancing.

On August 31 2016 03:01 Tumblewood wrote:
I swear Koshi as soon as you saw a post from me you disliked you made a document where you add every one of my posts and a negative spin on it