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Race Bannon
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Race Bannon
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As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness. Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted. On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote: More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons? This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons". ##vote: Vivax On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote: I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise. If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble. Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case. On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast. Almost 100% lock town tbh. If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way. The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective. The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote: also I'm a moron, this is on the thing. I don't think that changes Race's thought patter. Like, why would anyone make that "mistake" as any other role than vanilla town. Like there's basically 99% chance he read his role pm, figured that it would be hard for mafia to fake it and just rolled with it. The alternative scenario that he is mafia, figures that vanilla role pm might be weird, and instead of begging host for it (if he genuinely didn't know it was in the op) and decides to come up with this weird ruse hoping someone jumps it (like I'm doing now) and calls him town for it. It's just way too complicated. The simple solution is, Race Bannon is town. probably. (maybe). I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test. On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote: Like I'm not only fairly sure he's town, I'm fairly sure he's precisely vanilla town. No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe. On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote: Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum. Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum. Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today. | ||
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Race Bannon
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Race Bannon
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On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote: I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts. It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good? I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote: Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed. 1. It was fairly early and scott hasn't posted enough for a good case. 2. A meta argument stemming from someone other than the person being cased has no place in the case, no prominent place, no less prominent place, no place.(period) On August 31 2016 00:00 Vivax wrote: Palmar abandoned his push on geript in super lightning mode once it stopped gaining traction which I don't like at all. So maybe there is a bit of swagger to be had still. Palmar, Tumblewood and...scott? Like Palmar didn't even spend a single post on the case on scott, maybe cause he felt like he didn't have to since it's still very much under the radar. But I feel like Palmar is mafia in this game, cause for the fact he's playing there's very little conviction behind his own arguments, and he sucked up to Koshi which is a nono for town Palmar. You're theorzing scum triangle constellations already? Where does this hubris stem from. The impression I got from Palmar is that he does exactly this: migrate from one place to another, seemingly caring only about the size of wagons for pressure. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 01:57 scott31337 wrote: Interesting perspective - but do you think if Vivax and Koshi were a team he would reply to Vivax's "case" on me like he did? It just seems really complicated and unneeded. I do not think they are the same alignment. Whatever he said might have come from both alignments, maybe even more so from scum. Take my newbie game for instance where artanis fostered this tactic of interacting with his buddies as much as possible, which resulted in ripples of unneeded complication as I was defending his attacks, and skated to victory because the other suspicious guy had little to no interaction with him. Also any case PR is good PR, and inprints into people minds that you are lynchable today. That said, I haven't re-read that part yet, so I might be trippin', but consider the following quote again, when weighing the odds of them being scum together: On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote: Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum. Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum It was part of a sequence of posts made in a short timeframe, he litterally voted .. made that post a minute later, then voted someone else, so that makes it an opportune time to slip, lol. It boils down to this: how can he warrant using vivax's alignment to incriminate Tumble here, hmm? Even if it's sort of a transition to disformation, that's not important. He's basically scumclaiming for both him and vivax. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote: Pretty sure you don't even understand what I wrote. You were pretending to "weigh" which is scummier, Tumble or disformation, based on their addendum involving having called vivax town, and trfel breaking meta, respectively. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 05:12 Koshi wrote: oh deadline is in 50 mins indeed. Thought it was in 2 hours. Hey me too. So what did I not understand, about that post of yours. | ||
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On August 31 2016 05:18 disformation wrote: his vote is still on geript. he will have to vote scott for survival which is perfectly nai. Who except Trfel and Vivax made a case against scott? Can yoube persuaded to help nudge along a Koshi or Vivax choochoo? | ||
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Race Bannon
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The same goes for people breaking the reading experience in forum mafia. When I'm hosting I'll totally modkill, and taste the full flavor of the subsequent bitch-fest and enjoy it to the fullest, when someone looses even a coherent sentence about anything other than game-relevant material, except material used for jokes or whatever. I vehemently denounce this entitlement of a player to think they can bring into this picture their real life persona, what they're doing or would like to do outside of this game.. who the fuck wants to see a player as anything other than the cog in the machinery. Random people .. evoking contexts like wht they eat, where they drive, dota and wow .. what? Why is this relevant to my experience? I am well advised to decide that scum could just as well lie about being unavailable and some such, so where's the fucking point of interluding the flow of relevant conversation, just to "announce" I'll want to play dota .. like "wrap this up people, I got somewhere to be". No you don't you piece of shit. You don't exist outside the context of this game, for anyone inside this game. .. For real. Sry, meant to play but had to get this off my chest. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 16:29 Trfel wrote: Race Bannon (...) So, I don't think that any of his arguments make sense this whole game. I don't think you think that. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 17:01 Trfel wrote: Glad to see that as soon as I scumread you, you appear  It's like magic!Do you have any further comments on my case? Yes, and I though I made myself clear. I'd like you to elaborate on my arguments. AMA | ||
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Race Bannon
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Trfel: I really, really don't understand why this is significant, in the slightest. "Other reasons" implies that one possibility is the subject being mafia. This is my point, why would a townie imply anything, when he can simply say the subject might be mafia.. the dramatic aspect of it makes me think that this is a juncture, where wording diverges based on alignment. Allow me to restate: Koshi did something last game when he was town. Because he did the same thing in this game, I think that he's mafia doing this specifically aimed to fool me. So, what ever prevents Koshi from being town and just thinking the same way he did last game, since he was town last game?!!!?!?!!? This doesn't make him mafia in the slightest. The opposite is far more probable as I've explained, the interaction with me, the voting me.. there's no reason for him to do that other than backdooring his meta into the picture. Like why did noone else scumread me throughout the entire game, except geript who was pissed at my entrance but didn't admit it, which broght him into a precarious situation, there's a reason for that. "It boils down to this: how can he warrant using vivax's alignment to incriminate Tumble here, hmm? Even if it's sort of a transition to disformation, that's not important. He's basically scumclaiming for both him and vivax." Except that's not what Koshi said at all. Koshi said that Tumblewood is mafia because of the way that Tumblewood said "Vivax is town" at the end of his post. Koshi said absolutely nothing about Vivax's alignment, so it has nothing to do with what you are saying. Are you serious? This is ridiculous. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 17:14 Trfel wrote: My turn So, since you were scumreading scott31337 early on, how could you be so sure that Vivax is mafia, since he posted the biggest case on scott31337? Read case, ask if no comprende | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 17:31 Trfel wrote: I don't get it, that's why I'm asking You go so far as to say that it was too early to make a good case on scott31337. So, okay, why were you scumreading scott31337??? Fuck scott, you're asking why I was sure of Vivax, and it's rigt there in the case. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 17:39 Trfel wrote: I've already said why I don't think that makes sense, but okay, it's not worth arguing about. In your scumread of Vivax, are you not considering the rest of his play? For instance, the push he's made for quite a while, and is by far the thing he's been most involved with? If you don't agree with this push, then presumably you disagree with the reasons that Vivax provided. In which case, I'd like to know the reasons that you were scumreading scott31337 for early on, and they'd better be different from the ones that Vivax posted. I'm tired, so good night. + Show Spoiler + Race Bannon seems to be genuinely annoyed though, which feels much more like a town mindset than a mafia mindset  sigh... Everything he does seems so mafia, but maybe he's somehow town anyway...Oh let's argue! Argue argue argue. Bannon wants argue, Now! On August 31 2016 17:01 Trfel wrote: Glad to see that as soon as I scumread you, you appear It's like magic!As soon as I confront you, you bail. Like Houdini | ||
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Race Bannon
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On September 01 2016 01:12 disformation wrote: not sure if ill do the rest im pissed. On September 01 2016 01:19 disformation wrote: cause he apparently has like 0 time to play? On September 01 2016 01:19 disformation wrote: like that you even have to ask that is ridic. On September 01 2016 01:21 disformation wrote: DO. YOU. EVEN. FUCKING. READ. MY. FUCKING. POSTS?! On September 01 2016 01:21 disformation wrote: OFC HE CAN BE SCUM On September 01 2016 01:22 disformation wrote: I CAN STILL THINK YOU ARE SCUMMY FOR MISREPRESENTING/CHERRY PICKING SHIT On September 01 2016 01:23 disformation wrote: LIKE DIDNT YOU SEE ME VOTING GERIPT FOR A JUNK OF D1 OR SOMETHING?! On September 01 2016 01:25 disformation wrote: going home and stepping away from the pc. On September 01 2016 01:26 disformation wrote: i also dont think i said anything about misslynches anywhere. might be wrong. am slightly pissed atm. On September 01 2016 01:26 disformation wrote: fucking BS. Hush. Dont you mind those mean fuckers. Race is here to comfort you. Flieg junger Adler, hinaus in die Freiheit. Schau nur nach vorn', nie zurück. tuh nunuh nuh Dann findest du dein Glück! There, all better? | ||
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On September 01 2016 01:28 disformation wrote: hardclaiming cop. On September 01 2016 01:28 disformation wrote: cu. Lol, .. or ? | ||
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On September 01 2016 01:48 Vivax wrote: This is more like the good ol' days. Let's just hope he's not actually cop. Let's just hope we didn't make it easier for scum to snipe the cop, if he is indeed someone other than ourelves. If not, well .. There can be only one cop p, or can there? Yes. Fuck it, time to read role PM. | ||
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