[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia - Page 10

On September 01 2016 00:53 Vivax wrote:


Yes I'm picking stuff that would be an argument for him being scum. If you think there's other stuff that makes him town then feel free to present it, but apparently you're just as clueless as I am about his read on TW, so your argument is nil.

It's not cherrypicking when I look for scummy stuff in people's filters.

What are you doing disfo?

On September 01 2016 01:05 Vivax wrote:
What would my agenda be? Finding mafia?

Do you see any other reason for me posting the most at night looking outside of the scumreads I claimed to have earlier other than to look at stuff from different angles?

All I could do is rehash how scott is mafia (which btw I still think is likely), pointing out how his wagon was clearly not one of the wagons mafia wanted to pursue, a flipped townie being on it further cementing this version.

Yet I'm here diving geript's filter.

Then you appear, tell me that it's cherrypicking and misrepresenting, but clearly have no better argument on reading geript, make a mistake in the process (mistaking danieler for TW), admit that geript's read on TW needs clarification, proving all your points to be wrong.

Prompted to explain why geript is town (you think I'm misrepresenting him right?) you just repeat how I'm mafia and run away with the tail between your legs and an excuse to not further engage in discussion and explain things.

Maybe you are mafia after all.

On August 31 2016 05:50 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't even think Scott and geript are scum anymore
well, by game logic I think one of them has to be

On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote:


Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed.

On August 30 2016 17:33 geript wrote:
Dane's kinda an odd duck. Everything is black and white as if he types sitting in proper posture. He just doesn't look comfy; being new, I'm guessing, it's a bit understandable. It's very odd to me that his opinions are so polarized while not coming across as confident. Idk about him, but I think he's the best fall back option available. We're not likely to get any better info or post on him, so just lynch him if there's not a better target.

On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.

On September 01 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Disfo why is geript an easy mislynch?

On September 01 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote:
But why don't you consider that he might be mafia?

On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote:
random tinfoil:
why is vivax only going after easy targets?
scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play.

On September 01 2016 01:26 Vivax wrote:
I can hardly be misrepresenting someone who could be scum with arguments you weren't able to invalidate.

I can't look for easy mislynches on someone who you claimed isn't necessarily a mislynch.

Moral of the story: You're full of shit disfo

On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

On August 30 2016 06:02 Race Bannon wrote:

No you're not. You, I and everyone else know playing this game is all about telling the new guy how to play the game, and giggle maliciously to yourself when he listens to you so don't let HF win, unless you two are a team in which case you share the bragging rights equally. Are you .. in a team with HF .. playing ping pong with the newblood, hmm?

On August 30 2016 06:08 Race Bannon wrote:

Ok, I've had it with the references to that game.

vote: Koshi

On August 30 2016 17:20 Race Bannon wrote:
Trfel scott scumbuds

On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:
Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun.

As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness.

Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted.



This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons".

##vote: Vivax



If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.

Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case.



If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x


I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.


No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.


This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum.

Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today.

On August 30 2016 23:36 Race Bannon wrote:
It's a tone read, and easily mistakable for semantic nitpicking. But there is substance behind it, in terms of everything coming together in a way that exposes Vivax as a dirty little scumfuck.

On August 30 2016 23:57 Race Bannon wrote:

It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good?

I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens.

On August 31 2016 00:08 Race Bannon wrote:

1. It was fairly early and scott hasn't posted enough for a good case.
2. A meta argument stemming from someone other than the person being cased has no place in the case, no prominent place, no less prominent place, no place.(period)


You're theorzing scum triangle constellations already? Where does this hubris stem from.

The impression I got from Palmar is that he does exactly this: migrate from one place to another, seemingly caring only about the size of wagons for pressure.

On August 31 2016 02:57 Race Bannon wrote:

Whatever he said might have come from both alignments, maybe even more so from scum. Take my newbie game for instance where artanis fostered this tactic of interacting with his buddies as much as possible, which resulted in ripples of unneeded complication as I was defending his attacks, and skated to victory because the other suspicious guy had little to no interaction with him.

Also any case PR is good PR, and inprints into people minds that you are lynchable today. That said, I haven't re-read that part yet, so I might be trippin', but consider the following quote again, when weighing the odds of them being scum together:


It was part of a sequence of posts made in a short timeframe, he litterally voted .. made that post a minute later, then voted someone else, so that makes it an opportune time to slip, lol.

It boils down to this: how can he warrant using vivax's alignment to incriminate Tumble here, hmm? Even if it's sort of a transition to disformation, that's not important. He's basically scumclaiming for both him and vivax.

On August 31 2016 06:00 Race Bannon wrote:
There's something I noticed about myself. I fucking hate it when the acting is so bad that I'm constantly being reminded of how it's a movie I'm watching. Either the acting, sometimes the casting irrevocably dooms that department entirely, or the camera keeps shaking stupidly erratic, especially when 3d, my word. Is it so hard to empathize with the viewer experience and just take Alejandro Inarritu's success as a hint? FFS, and the mobile phones.. the stupid kids with their availability issues.

The same goes for people breaking the reading experience in forum mafia. When I'm hosting I'll totally modkill, and taste the full flavor of the subsequent bitch-fest and enjoy it to the fullest, when someone looses even a coherent sentence about anything other than game-relevant material, except material used for jokes or whatever.

I vehemently denounce this entitlement of a player to think they can bring into this picture their real life persona, what they're doing or would like to do outside of this game.. who the fuck wants to see a player as anything other than the cog in the machinery. Random people .. evoking contexts like wht they eat, where they drive, dota and wow .. what? Why is this relevant to my experience? I am well advised to decide that scum could just as well lie about being unavailable and some such, so where's the fucking point of interluding the flow of relevant conversation, just to "announce" I'll want to play dota .. like "wrap this up people, I got somewhere to be". No you don't you piece of shit. You don't exist outside the context of this game, for anyone inside this game. .. For real.

Sry, meant to play but had to get this off my chest.