Palmar's Purge: Crisis and Turmoil in Liquidia
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going to try to chill here a bit though, so not sure on activity. if thats okay with everyone: /in | ||
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On August 10 2016 18:58 Palmar wrote: game does have deadlines, you just don't have to do anything. The day/night cycle continues as normal (at least in most locations). cool then imma baking some waffles for everyone. | ||
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On August 11 2016 10:28 Shapelog wrote: I made it better. I can just imagine a Esport event for Forum mafia. Literary two weeks long, and all the players are there from 9am-9pm posting and posting. Casters calling all the big cases with hype. Fans Cheering my name, as I make a gosu case on one of the other 3 Vets. Laughing at all the people who try to meta me. Shitposting thoses who trying to be good. I actually sound more like a Heel then a Face, but hey. I be a cocky Face, you dig? Give me a year, and that will happen. As for this year, I gotta really step up my Shit posting. I got like only 3 and a half months and have to get like 5000 posts Jeez. That is what? Roughly 110 days to do so? Meaning I would need like 45 posts a day. Could prob. do it tbh if i had to time or effort. i would probably still be there. still wont be able to read you gor shit. huntimg silver medals like Stork. | ||
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my programm includes:
so jere you have it. not voting me is basically claiming scum. vote town! vote disformation! vote the only one who can make america great again! on phone, making some sweet deals, will be back with more! | ||
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i am going to be able to offer more than hf or gracken i bet my name alone has nore networth than their combined total capital. | ||
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4m USD for everyone who promises to vote me. + 1m USD after election. Increasing to +2m if I get elected. That's right folk, 6m for each of you if you manage to make america great again by electing me. On August 16 2016 15:32 Holyflare wrote: I also trade in gold and galactic credits. Don't listen to this guy. Galactic credits?! He clearly is an alien and therefore an (illegal) immigrant to our great nation. Clearly not fit to rule this nation, when it needs a great leader. Also technically shouldn't be able to run. | ||
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Not too sure if you are able to outbid me, but going broke over the election is probably not worth it. I'll still be running in the hopes that the american population will recognize, that I am the only one who can pull it out of this mess. | ||
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On August 16 2016 16:39 Holyflare wrote: I have a really boring role Also, probably terrible for me as a player. Just vote me in the election, get money and then we're all good. I'm sure there's a mafia anti-me role if I claim or something but I'm not against crumbing some things if you need something more substantial. Also I'm buying the tank because it seems like it's needed. Probably get the phone too. There's a few other players i can probably trust if i know their names but don't reveal them that obviously plz. (big crumb) Eh. Your role might be kinda similar to mine. Also: You haven't formally announced that you are running for candidacy so you should do that. We then have: GB, TW, Grack, HF and me running for USA. | ||
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dont really care about russia (as long as they dont try to steal my mail). since none of my objectives even mention russia i miight be willing to cooperate though. esp. if thete are economic reasons to do so. | ||
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Slightly surprised my role is town not 3rd Party TBH. xD | ||
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Like they see you have 10 votes and they really dont want you to become pres, they just day vig you or some shit? Though killing me is obv claiming scum. | ||
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On August 16 2016 17:59 Holyflare wrote: If there's a day vig on day one that's really really shit mechanics. I like how you assume I'm not mafia making the plan though scumformation. Ppl wanting to have as much info as possible in the thread are more likely to be town imo. town!palmar did so in PYP:intruiging. I like that the scumformation thing is catching on though! :D | ||
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Maybe some items/abilities will unlock during the game, but with the focus on the elections this day, I dont think there are some right nao. Visible KP: probably a bunch. | ||
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I vow to teach Onegu some democracy should I get elected. Also: Don't vote other ppl, they might want to take your guns away! Also: not sure if I like Art being this free with nukes. | ||
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On August 16 2016 19:38 Koshi wrote: Hmm. Maybe we should make some sort of chain of command thing. Let's say we make you President of AMERICA. Then we need to have something who is known to the thread that keeps you in check. Like Onegu but smarter. So if you ever do something anti town with the nukes, you are instantly murdered by the second in command. And protection roles should protect both. So we can actually organize lynches like this. We just vote like normal and then you nuke who has the most votes, if you don't, you get nuked. Willing to agree and accept these conditions. | ||
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On August 16 2016 19:40 Lunaticman wrote: If elected I want you to tell me what the first thing you will do is: Grackaroni Glowingbear Tumblewood Disformation Holyflare Also if Superbia flips town we need to be very careful about Chez. If someone is able to protect Superbia I think it would be a good move.
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inb4 someone is kim sitting in north korea laughing his ass off. also agreeing a lot with koshi. | ||
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I.E. I think he is someone profiting from a big war or cold war or whatever. Google says: Nations with nuclear weapons: United States, Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea He is not Russian. Don't think the Euros would be so Anit-European. Is he Kim? =D | ||
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On August 16 2016 20:23 Superbia wrote: I'm assuming Britain is a country due to GBP btw. There was also a mention of the Brexit in the day post. so yeah very probable. | ||
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On August 16 2016 20:24 Superbia wrote: Also I do not think Artanis has a phone power. I also think the Superman thing is unconfirmed, as it is an example. I think Artanis WANTS the phone, but isnt as rich as like HF and me. | ||
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I love the Kim theory. xD | ||
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town lean: hf, art !town: oneg I also think that prolly one of the guys running for us president is scum. aka one of gb, tw, grack. but that is more of a gut guess | ||
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though yeah a bit surprised the elections only last 24h. | ||
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Can someone confirm when elections end? | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:28 Palmar wrote: For the voters: Please vote for one of the candidates by submitting their name in a PM to the host before Tuesday, Aug 16 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) from day post. That IS in 10hours. Righto? | ||
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I am at GMT+2. That IS in 10 hours. | ||
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I have promised to abide by koshis plan. I have vowed to bring democracy to Onegu. If you are american you know who to vote for. | ||
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praise rngesus. (pls dont i hate that guy) | ||
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Not much I can about that I am afraid. TBH slightly annoyed I have to run against HF, who can probably easy out-activity and out-talk me. Still gonna try my hardest, because I know I WILL make Murica great again! | ||
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One of my two traits is indeed: Rich | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote: Does your role actually get "better" if you are president. Or is this just prestige? I have a passive that only activates/works if I win. | ||
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Since you know, we filthy capitalists are not allowed to vote in the soviet one anyway? | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:51 Lunaticman wrote: I think there was a mention that, money can influence the soviet election. But I'm not sure if that is the super pac. Yeah, I think that was only the Super PAC, where foreign ppl can donate money to support a candidate. | ||
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On August 16 2016 20:17 disformation wrote: So do we want to do a unofficial vote count for the elections or not? Already said who I am voting for. | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:14 Half the Sky wrote: Remember NSM18? He's popping in and out and drawing mafia into reaction tests from what would seem like pointless shit. It's lacking in here, I'm looking in and out through 13-14. Nothing to change my read on him through page 17. Also aside from Superbia do you have any reads from early activity? On August 16 2016 20:47 disformation wrote: town: superbia, luna, koshi town lean: hf, art !town: oneg I also think that prolly one of the guys running for us president is scum. aka one of gb, tw, grack. but that is more of a gut guess not sure what you mean by early activity, but these are my reads atm. | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:18 Vivax wrote: you're prolly just mafia for not having me as lock town and having Gb as null Have you posted in this thread? Who are you? Are you American? | ||
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GB is def. the most scummy of the US candidates. And since I think that one scummer is trying to get elected, that is probably him. TBH with this amount of players in the game I will forget shit ALOT. Also is it just me or is Gracks filter not linked at front page of the thread? | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:31 Half the Sky wrote: Fabian is almost certainly scum, reading through page 21, I am aware he posted reads in response to my question, Vivax disagreed with them, but I'm not seeing town behaviour from him as I'm catching up. OMGUS hts scum. | ||
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hm... dunno, do you have something nice to talk about? | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote: HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff. For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative. both of them cant be looking more terrible than me right now. | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote: Why don't you think that they are mafia trying to get mafia!HF elected? good question. | ||
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HtS is probably town, but I got super pissed at her getting the read on me wrong. Kita: no clue. HF: town lean cuz of an earlier post. TBH I just wanted to chill/troll/lurk this game, but my role is like 50% about this damn election, so I thought I'd try regardless. Therefore: Yes, I am overly focused on the mechanics/this election, cause my role kinda wants to push me in this direction. | ||
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disformation (3): disformation, disformation, disformation HolyFlare (0): Tumblewood (0): Grackaroni (0): GlowingBear (0): so you guys should maybe consolidate or something. | ||
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I can see where the scumreads on me come from. So if you don't want to vote me that is... well it is not really fine, but not much I can do can I? Wouldn't recommend voting GB. Won't move my votes though. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote: Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret. So. I since I am going with the super honest approach to my role here (prolly will bite me in the ass at some point, but whatever): I'll be super honest here, too: I have a passive that only will work/activate once I am elected. I am not 100% sure what it exactly does though. The wording makes me assume/think that it will be beneficial for America. There is room for Palmar trolling me though. TBH a huge reason why I am gunning for the election is to see what really happens. xD | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:20 Dandel Ion wrote: had my list typed out but got distracted by animals current shit-points list: hf x3 grack x2 sup x2 sickl x1 gb x1 lun x1 hts x0 why am I not on the list. I should vote myself onto that list and auto win that, with my 3 votes. | ||
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I have a passive giving me 2 votes in any beneficial election. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:22 disformation wrote: I have a passive giving me 2 votes in any beneficial election. to clarify: I automatically have 2 votes on myself for any beneficial election. probably my hair voting on its own or something. using my normal vote i put that to 3. | ||
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ask Palmar | ||
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but at least you ppl now know that I am honest. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:25 kitaman27 wrote: So you're saying you have no idea how your role works and didn't take the 30 seconds to ask? It probably means that I won't have 2 automatic votes on me if we are having a lynch vote or something? | ||
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HF and I have the same Bonus Objective. =D I think I know who you are HF. This totally sucks though and I absolutely dont like my role, aside from it being somewhat funny. | ||
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I also get 500 points for being elected as the american president. | ||
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my role is like 50% about the election and the rest is about having a fuck ton of money. | ||
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Sry I think my hair is fire resistant and will protect me. | ||
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Hm. Interesting. Is there a way for us both to get our bonus points? | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:26 Vivax wrote: What do you guys want to bet that Donald Trump is a role in this game? Did I decide crumbing trump after seeing that post or am I legit Trumping? | ||
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just flip me if you dont believe me. *shrugs* | ||
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am disformation j. trump though not hillary. i thought hf was hollery, but apparently he has sonething else. onegu totally kim il though | ||
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On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote: I have a few minutes to breathe so I'll try and add a few things. I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts: + Show Spoiler + On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote: HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff. For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative. On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote: Leaning scum on onegu, GB, sicklucker. Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy. GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance. SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked. I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing. Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure. On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote: I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread. Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another. Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty. On August 16 2016 23:15 kitaman27 wrote: I think this post was his worst so far. It was apparent when I brought him up last but I also don't like Artanis this game. Also disformation, I have no idea why you had been townreading Artanis. Checked the latter's filter and other than saying my read is bad, there's nothing else that points to him as towny in there. I do not mention Artanis at all in my filter? | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:01 disformation wrote: I do not mention Artanis at all in my filter? No you are right, I have a town lean somewhere on him. Don't remember what that was for. | ||
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ppl probably have alignments. | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:02 disformation wrote: No you are right, I have a town lean somewhere on him. Don't remember what that was for. After thinking about it for a moment: It was probably for something he posted. | ||
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artanis stole superbias legs. hf and me are fighting for us president. some ppl probably have alignmenzs. | ||
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onegu is kim il of north korea and 3rd party. i say this like 5 times in my filter. no clue wtf art is up to. shape: i am trump. | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:54 Grackaroni wrote: Then you have earned my vote in earnest. Cool. At least some americans care to see our nation great again. Gives me a bit of hope for this game. anyone can be my friend, unless they are scum. cause if your friends don't dance then they're no friends of mine | ||
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Disapproving of the picture ofc. | ||
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GB, HF, me. Not too sure about the other two, but I know I am town and I will make murica great again. Damdred who is prolly like the prince of nigeria sitting on a ton of gold. Or an alien trying to figure out what to do with his space creds. wont lend me money, so is a filthy immigrant either way. koshi who is the prince of belgium and seems to be a pretty cool guy. superbia who is like a cool Russian, but prolly is getting nuked. Onegu who is either Chinese president or, more likely Kim Il of NK, who is conf. anti-american, probably anti-town and very likely 3P or scum. HtS is a busy European trying to figure out something. IDK prolly town. Tumblewood and Grack are cool American ppl. Artanis is either some alien that wants to phone home or a crazy scientist or some stuff. All this is full and if you are not on the list I either forgot you are in this game or cant remember a single thing you posted. | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:00 Damdred wrote: Ok here's the deal disformation, I'll give you your 6b. But my plane is broke to get to you if say you type Give damdred 20 million for repairs I could easily get you the rest with your payment. The Americans won't sell to me directly I think transactions of money are send via host pm and stuff, too. Now the more interesting question, so I can make sure I can trust you: Do your friends dance? | ||
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no idea what that entails. I want to find out. If you want to find out, too: vote me. | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:05 Damdred wrote: I roll across the dance floor all night busting through squares all day. I have contacted someone to handle the transaction, please stand by. | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:14 Onegu wrote: I own most of USA debt and dont want the dollar to crash... Therefore cannot nuke USA Ah IC. My other other guess then. Well. So you have an anti-usa wincon, but cant directly harm them. Interesting. | ||
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Yes, President of China was my other guess. Liked the kim one more, though. | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:28 GlowingBear wrote: Onegu, if you're not Russian nor American, why can't you nuke an American? On August 17 2016 03:14 Onegu wrote: I own most of USA debt and dont want the dollar to crash... Therefore cannot nuke USA | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:09 Vivax wrote: Btw Koshi there is no tomorrow. As far as I understand today the elections end, tomorrow is the day of events and stuff to react to, then comes the actual night. For the most part, each "phase" will work like this: 24h setup (day part 1) 24h action (day part 2) 24h calm and relocate (night) taken from one of the op posts n stuff | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Is anyone else immune to being elected? HOLY FUCK GET AWAY FROM ME WHAT IF THAT IS CONTAGIOUS | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote: I'm happy everyone is so confident in my alignment. Definitely all town agreeing there. I super think you are town super. On the other hand this post just gave me horrible PYP flashbacks. | ||
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still would use a anti nuke if I had one. | ||
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I cant move my 2 extra votes and I know I am 100% town. Not so sure bout you. =/ | ||
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Also hope there isnt a certain ability in the game, but of course I remembered that after I disclosed like 50% of my role. | ||
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So M_Z prolly town. cool. | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:31 prplhz wrote: but is it beneficial for scum to kill disformation for no reason in the first 6 hours of the game I dieded? | ||
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Cant tell if that is a town or scum tell for him though. Any help on meta? | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Basically treating the game as a Caller game and putting in minimal effort other than having fun and making reads as I see them Yeah, that was kinda my plan as well. Unfortunately my role wants me to super care about that election thing. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote: WHAT DID YOU DO ARTANIS On August 16 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote: Why am I getting weak? On August 16 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote: My legs specifically apparently. On August 17 2016 00:04 Superbia wrote: Artanis >: | On August 17 2016 00:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well I had some trouble moving so I appreciate the help. This does make me wonder how you can get nuked without me being hit though! | ||
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See how benevolent I am? Vote Disformation! Vote Murica! | ||
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are you the guy HF is looking for? On August 16 2016 23:40 Holyflare wrote: Are you black or have anything to dk with black people? On August 16 2016 23:47 Holyflare wrote: I need a black friend and someone that understood my post earlier.. Also to be president. But really I'm just here to make friends. | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote: Oh I suppose I have to take USSR or America.. ##I announce my candidacy for General Secretary of the Central committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and everything else then america | ||
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there are apparently some super shady ppls out there. | ||
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On August 17 2016 06:43 prplhz wrote: if you don't think you're getting elected, who do you think is getting elected? literally no one else is receiving any support and you already had one of your opponents (Grackaroni) withdraw from the race the one with the ability to steal votes of course i would expect hf to fight more, so its probably him | ||
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Since I wasnt in the Russian election I couldnt influence that. So GB has either an ability that influences votes as well, a lot of friends that didn't post here, or a combination of both. On one hand I am salty for not getting my passive unlocked and failing the first of my secondary wincons. On the other hand I am glad that I get to be a lazy shit now. | ||
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And make some sweet dollars y'all. | ||
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So I really fucked that up for myself. | ||
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GB voted GB rest of his 50% are ??? I voted me. got 2 extra votes. Grack voted me imo. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:13 prplhz wrote: do you expect that if you keep saying this people will just start giving you lots of money Damdy already promised me some $$$ and TBH I can build it by myself if I am alive long enough, it will just take fucking ages. If you want to see it happen sonner, feel free to chip in. The wall only is 8 bill, so no sweat, really. | ||
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unless somone else got an extra vote or something. | ||
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so as I said: I dun goofed up. good part: at least we dont have trump as president. :D | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:20 Holyflare wrote: Ist jemand deutsch? Bitte? Wollte gerade ins Bett gehen... Wie kann ich helfen? | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:21 disformation wrote: Wollte gerade ins Bett gehen... Wie kann ich helfen? wait. is this regarding roles? then nvm dont think trump can speak German. | ||
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i guess 1 vote could have been that super pac thing. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:42 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, got control of the NSA, but I had to choose between peace and chaos And I chose chaos. ... time to go golfing in scotland. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:55 disformation wrote: yeah it is still day phase. do actions n stuff resolves in like 23hours. ebeop: so actions.... | ||
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im not sure if i want everybody to know. | ||
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i guess most of the mechanic stuff is pretty vague in purpose. so its hard to tell if eg art wanted to hurt superbia or if gb had any idea of what he was doing | ||
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prplhz why did you vote chez? | ||
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On August 17 2016 08:37 ritoky wrote: Fox News! A fair and balanced look at American society Fox News Offering "Legal" Assassinations: With recent changes in American law, Fox News is offering its services to eradicate people who can be clearly proven to lack the necessary patriotism to be called an American. We have a professional who's services can be acquired if proper proof and compensation is provided to Fox News. All offers can be sent to Fox News (ritoky or Palmar) along with reasoning as to why the person is not a patriot. We accept all items and money as offers for trade. Please note that your request and offer will be made public upon completion of the assassination. read it again. litterally unpatriotic murricans. and nsa is not fox news. | ||
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him not reading op propetly and getting fucked over is as nai as it gets. | ||
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so hes european or american. there was a post saying he neefs to fly ti europe or something should trump win. so he might be murrican | ||
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also. he was asking for rubels. so soviet. he had super weird interactions with super. so i think he voted chez. | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:18 prplhz wrote: I think I'm being pretty straight forward. If I were getting killed in 24 hours then I'd certainly just make stuff up. Also, give me 1 ruble? I need it for........................ Something. + Show Spoiler + bold added by me. | ||
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b) you had weird interactions with superbia, indicating you are less likely to vote for him c) apparently a lot of Russians voted chez | ||
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On August 17 2016 18:32 prplhz wrote: well i didn't so you are saying that you are a rubel wielding non-russian? cause i dont think you voted superbia a) cause interactions b) that would put at superbia at 4 votes and I am not really seeing chez beating that easily. on the other hand I think that the 107% indicate some sort of vote power for chez. maybe propaganda or something. dunno. | ||
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On August 17 2016 18:36 Koshi wrote: Koshi, Prince of Belgium, soon to be ruler of the earth & space. would vote for you. | ||
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i am very unsure on kita atm | ||
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acutally wtb a list of those ppl | ||
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Onegu probably wont happen since he is a foreign president? he IS conf. anti-american though | ||
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I will look at the super lurky ppl and see what I can do. At the very least this hopefully will get us some information. Will do that this evening when I am back at home. | ||
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On August 17 2016 20:08 Half the Sky wrote: How does anti-American = scum, or are you asking this for the purposes of your secondary objectives? I am talking about using Fox News to kill lurkers. Anti-American and/or unpatriotic are the requirements for getting Fox News to kill somebody. that and money. | ||
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On August 17 2016 20:10 disformation wrote: I am talking about using Fox News to kill lurkers. Anti-American and/or unpatriotic are the requirements for getting Fox News to kill somebody. that and money. For the second time today: On August 17 2016 08:37 ritoky wrote: Fox News! A fair and balanced look at American society Fox News Offering "Legal" Assassinations: With recent changes in American law, Fox News is offering its services to eradicate people who can be clearly proven to lack the necessary patriotism to be called an American. We have a professional who's services can be acquired if proper proof and compensation is provided to Fox News. All offers can be sent to Fox News (ritoky or Palmar) along with reasoning as to why the person is not a patriot. We accept all items and money as offers for trade. Please note that your request and offer will be made public upon completion of the assassination. read. | ||
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Will review their filters and build cases this evening. Might drop a few maybe. Or not. All four are lurky, slightly scummy and might be Murrican. | ||
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On August 17 2016 21:45 Koshi wrote: Why bother with cases? Just kill them. It should be people you can't make a case on. Cause fox news wants a case as to why these ppl are unpatriotic | ||
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is vivax in the same crew as damdy? is damdy kirk or picard? where is KHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?! | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote: Oh I suppose I have to take USSR or America.. ##I announce my candidacy for General Secretary of the Central committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and everything else then america On August 17 2016 02:28 Shapelog wrote: ... I HAVE EUROS, YOU DON'T, THAT MEANS I AM MUCH BETTER THEN YOU! (also rofl vivax) He also never was announced as a valid candidate... very next election thing someone got thrown in the gulag. So I am not 100% sure that it was him, but it is like 99% likely that he didnt read the op and fucked up. him having euros kinda implies he was, european as well... etc | ||
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On August 17 2016 23:56 GlowingBear wrote: Dude, Vivax, the word "gulag" didn't even appear in thread On August 17 2016 06:32 Palmar wrote: This is the BBC World Service! Bringing you the latest headlines from around the globe The USSR Press Release The Soviet administration just released this statement to the press. "Today we caught a capitalist infiltrator trying to influence our political cycle. He has been dealt with and sent to the Gulag. Soviet Russia will prevail. Let his fate be a warning to foreigners wanting to meddle in our great nation's politics". It is still unclear if the person caught was really a foreign spy, or something else entirely. Time will tell. | ||
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If you send me the 6 bil this day phase I can build it next day phase. If you send them next day phase I can build it the following. I might end up spending some cash on fox news later. If nobody helps I think I can build it like D5 or D6. | ||
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Also counting the PM's I send Palmar in there. | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:08 Damdred wrote: A nuke would get you more notice and bring a lot more heat on you. Simply suspending laws and allowing us to kill whoever basically gets responbility on the person doing the killing, I sort of wish you had turned it into a regular lynch that way we could of played a somewhat normal day. This. No votes -> no vote count -> no vote count analysis -> sad disfo. | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:12 Vivax wrote: Honestly I'm just looking for a fight and am pretty annoyed we don't have a collective killing tool at our disposal for now. There's just so many people I want to kill and prplhz is not going to be enough, even though it's telling he completely vanished when I announced I'd do it. Yeah, I think you hit one scummer. | ||
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and prolly all that stuff is super vague so palmar can pull funny stuff out of his hat as he pleases. which unfortunately makes it harder to solve the game through mechanics. | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:25 GlowingBear wrote: Disformation Why someone from your QT wants to kill Onegu? WTF are you talking about? | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:09 disformation wrote: I only have the rant QT I made for myself and that one is super boring this time, because I am only butt hurt about various things in there. Also counting the PM's I send Palmar in there. | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:37 Koshi wrote: Can you please tell us clean and simple what you have received? Everything at once. this. I am utterly confused. | ||
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HolyFlare was talking German because he was looking for someone with a German role. | ||
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And yeah. I should probably stop trying to play this at work where my brain is like split 50/50 between work and game. | ||
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will finish up my task @ work, go home, take a break, call fox news. cu guys laterz. | ||
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i also hate secrecy and will consider everyone in a qt to not be town. will probably drop my entire wallet at fox news later. | ||
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chaos was his choice for the other thing | ||
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Will take a break and start writing that up. So if you think you are on the list, time to shine! | ||
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if you are one of the ppl on my list that might get you off of it. | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote: was it the "apply for ussr passports because why not" conspiracy? On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote: QT 1: - "Welp Tumble Lost lol " - "Nah makes perfect sense." QT 2: - "WHAT? JUST BECAUSE I'M GERMAN, YOU ASSUME THAT I WANT TO OPEN UP A CONCENTRATION CAMP? YOU DISGUST ME." - "I already bid 20 million Euros on the tank and 10 million on the iPhone. I can increase those bids if needed." - "I'm going to Africa And I'm killing Onegu soon" QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." - "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." QT 4: - "Man, Palmar, we are going to be BFF's I like this place. I think I just going to keep on trying to run for USSR election, and we can just keep on talking and talking. You and me, forever.... Are you ready for your punishment Palmar?" - "A benevolent figure has gifted you an ice machine during your stay in the Gulag. Overusing it will cause you to get executed." QT 5: - "I'm kinda paranoid the third person who hasn't spoke yet could be mafia though if they're just watching." - "I don't get it at all" GB got these infos from NSA | ||
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one is like chez + poor shapelog. | ||
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trump obv not very German | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:16 Tumblewood wrote: all I can say is I definitely would have known there was scum if there was a scum qt in my role pm so hopefully we can be friends again so you are basically saying that you are in a qt, but not a scum qt? | ||
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I am going to give them between 1 and 10 targets. | ||
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lets see what happens. imma chill. miiiiight go to bed before flips, but prolly wont be able to sleep before i see them. xD | ||
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random thoughts: I guess a lot of the euros/africans are sitting in a QT or two, because I havent read anything european specific I think | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:33 Damdred wrote: Hrmmm that is interesting, Care to e plain yourself and what your goal was before I reveal it? who/what/why/where are you talkign with/to/about? | ||
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might dun goofed up cause I had so little info to go on for that fox thing. no clue what will happen. but I stand by what i did. dont think i can take it back anyway. so: dis gonna be gud | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote: I've gone off hts ¿que | ||
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Ppl probably have like alignments or something. Dunno. | ||
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On August 18 2016 06:55 Tumblewood wrote: deadline's in six minutes, right? just wanted to let everyone know that if they killed me they're an idiot I put a Fox News Assassination on you. | ||
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HF Oneg Superbia Vivax Disformation 3P Grack Scum/3P/don't trust Everyone Else Didn't receive a certificate. Looking forward to see what Luna does in Russia. I super hard misunderstood what/how the Fox news thing works, but I still think there is an operation underway, so hope is not yet lost. Super happy that I was totally right on who Oneg was, but that really shows that roles have nothing to do with alignment. @Skynx was it a pure RNG shot or a gut feeling/yolo shot or a shot for your bonus objectives? @Damdy: I hope you got the $$$. Please, help with wall funds. <3 Prediction for the rest of the game: town and 3P will shoot each other/themselves for their bonus objectives and scum will win while doing exactly nothing. | ||
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Well. Fine. Actual reads like: Town HF Oneg Superbia Vivax Disformation town leans Koshi HtS Damdy pplI think are town, but I don't trust them 5 ppl, won't tell you who 3P Grack Scum/3P/don't trust/who Everyone Else @Kita: did you influence any of the elections? For the Fox thing: I think the person knows he is being targeted by FOX, but I don't want to give them more wriggle room or whatever, but I feel like throwing out a hint: FOX is targeting someone who applied for the USSR Passport. Super curious to see what happens with that. @Stutters: Thanks a lot for coming out with that information. Not sure what to make out of that certificate yet, but every bit helps! If you touch my wall fund you are dead. @Skynx: I don't really like your list at all? If you were considering Superbia for his filter length, why not me? I've got more filter. Guess there will be a lot of talk about that tomorrow anyway. Who the fuck shot grack though? FYI: Super fucking tired, will go to bed soon. Will also head out for drinks tomorrow after work. Hope I won't have too much of a hangover Saturday. Knowing my addiction to this game, I will prolly try to play from phone as much as I can. 2/2 I'm out. *drops mic* | ||
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On August 19 2016 09:32 Half the Sky wrote: Reading a few filters atm. Not impressed with Rels at all, I can think of several shortcuts to get a few scumreads out even if pressed for time. yeah rels is scum and/or hiding in onr of the qts. same for trfel. | ||
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kinda pissed cause i paid a lot of money for thsz | ||
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1.5 billion usd sl not reading stuff properly is pretty nai fpr him | ||
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On August 19 2016 15:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Alright I'm going to bed. Disinfo if you're still slinging around that kinda of money would you mind throwing 500 mil USD my way? I started the game in debt by that amount with vague warnings that something bad will happen to me if I remain in debt. I can't promise anything good will happen if I pay off my debt but if you've got $$$ to burn I wouldn't mind avoiding whatever consequences Palmar has cooked up for my financial insolvency. This is kinda against the second of my secondary objectives and you are one of the guys I kinda think are town, but I do not fully trust... so sure. Transactions are completed at the end of day. Put it to good use. Also: I had a thought yesterday that maybe the elections wont last forever, but I did expect it to last at least two cycles. If you are Murrican, please vote me. If you are Soviet, please give some info. In fact that is what everyone should do. | ||
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On August 19 2016 16:53 sicklucker wrote: What birth certificate? I can check. last night it told me artanis is human On August 19 2016 02:10 Stutters695 wrote: Second night post, but I want to get this out there. I was the one who robbed GB. I received cash as well as a birth certificate which allows me to appear as a US citizen to checks, participate in elections and vote in the US. If it was just the money, I wouldn't have said anything but this calls into question his role claim to me. See bolded part. prplhz wants to nuke someone? I like Rels for that. | ||
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On August 19 2016 07:00 Palmar wrote: Remember that in order to run for office or vote you must either be European or Muslim. I don't think we had anyone say he is Muslim so far. So that is also very interesting. | ||
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really not liking Rels and Trfel somethings wrong in the Soviet Union. Luna needs to explain his stuff asap. IAMP needs to explain his post in the night, with "scum" shooting him and stuff. prplhz is giving me all kinds of bad vibes, but i am not sure what is going on. | ||
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Is art telling the truth or is causing a lot of global warming related to one of his win cons? No fucken clue | ||
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AND YOU PAID 5000 GOLD FOR A BROKEN TANK? Care to send me like 6b USD for my wall fund? Also: Art is saying global warming is BS. You seem to strongly disagree. | ||
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Send in a list of ppl, of which the nationality was unknown or american (i thought fox can only kill unpatriotic americans), had a low filter, were kinda suspicious and did something anti-american/unpatriotic. I won the bid (it was apparently an auction as well), but had to choose one of the ppl from my list. I chose Trfel. The ikea chase made me think he was European. Him going for the election, kinda confirmed that. No clue what happened after that chase though. Apparently nothing? Maybe cause he is European? | ||
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On August 19 2016 18:40 Rels wrote: Please don't kill me. I have a hard time taking time to read everything 'cause I just need to survive. A nuke on me would be wasted anyway 'cause I can't be hit by nukes. So you are basically claiming 3P survivor? On August 19 2016 18:41 Lunaticman wrote: I think Chez sent a nuke at me. Can anyone day vig him? Really hope that isnt the case. =/ Also: I can only get more votes and make murrica great again. =/ And throw money at ppl. | ||
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On August 19 2016 18:50 Rels wrote: Yep. On the other hand I'm in America so reading the host posts it looks like I gained the American nationality. Vote me. I totally like immigrants. | ||
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Though reading Vivax and HF again might be a thing. | ||
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will prolly post the shit I sent to Fox post game. | ||
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Why did you take shapes ear? Why did you break him out in the first place? | ||
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On August 19 2016 20:42 disformation wrote: hmmmm... both vivax and HF really didnt like iamp and GB? and prplhz | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:39 Damdred wrote: A rogue kgb agent has just emailed me the footage of the breakout (which seems to be successful) Shape was rescued by someone who was identified as dickbutt mcdick Upon further studies it seems to be kurumi | ||
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On August 18 2016 08:11 ritoky wrote: Fox News! A fair and balanced look at American society Disturbing Developments Regarding Gulag Escape Our investigative journalist in the USSR Weedlord Bonerhilter has submitted to Fox News further information regarding the break in at the Soviet Gulag. He uncovered some photographs taken by a couple on their anniversary date that clearly showed the prisoner stumbling onto a shanty raft that we have reason to believe is bound for Africa. More disturbingly, the escaped criminal was missing an ear and bleeding profusely from his head. USSR has issued an official bounty on this escaped convict and anyone associated with his escape. 500 million for conspirators and 1 billion for the man himself (Prices are halved if brought to Russia dead). When asked to do further reporting on the matter, Weedlord Bonerhitler responded "I need to leave Russia, now." Unpatriotic buffoons have suggested that it was Fox News who helped him escape, how can anyone blame a company that is so unabashedly AMERICAN! | ||
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On August 19 2016 21:50 Kurumi wrote: Oh. That couldn't be me. Wonder what that means. yeah. riiiiiiiiiight. the level of secrecy is pretty annoying this game. no clue how to tell if someone is town working on a secondary objective. 3P working on their wincon/objectives or just scum... | ||
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I got 3 secondary objectives:
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On the other hand I fear/smell a bunch of interference of anti town parties. Also will head out for drinks later. Should I be elected I'll literally will be drunk for the first quarter of my term. xD | ||
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Would think Skynx is more on the town side of things, but he could have easily lied. Plus I think he hasn't even explained why he thought HF might be scum in the first place. | ||
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Was hoping to have some impact with the fox news thing, but nope... Hopefully I'll be able to do something if I get elected. | ||
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On August 19 2016 22:58 Dandel Ion wrote: I have Useful Information about the Day 1 actions. But I might wait a bit for more people to have shown up. While it's Useful, it was a bit less so than I wished so now I gotta milk it. Not sure if I like you bringing that up only after Koshi throws a scum read at your head. BUT any information is needed, so I am looking forward to what you have to tell us. I hope it is something about either Skynx <> HF or Vivax <> Prplhz... or do you know who strangled Oneg? @Koshi: I also kinda feel (nearly) everyone is throwing around (nearly) the same names, so it is really awkward that nobody does or can do something about these ppl.. @Kita: thanks for reminding me to vote. | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:05 Dandel Ion wrote: would have brought it up either way, not my fault koshi is whiny and im not going to not post things just because he was whiny just before Eh, since you were just showing up, I can be willing to chalk that up as bad timing. As long as you Euros don't elect Trfel... | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:12 disformation wrote: Eh, since you were just showing up, I can be willing to chalk that up as bad timing. As long as you Euros don't elect Trfel... Edit By Way Of Quote | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: Also, if HTS is the banana shooter, but can't choose who her targets are, it reminds me of the Igrok role back in Personality Mafia 2. Essentially a mafia player could choose the valid targets for town to shoot and then try to bait them into killing the target, as an alternate form of mafia kp. That might be what we have going on here. that would actually make a ton of sense, since I feel most/nearly all of the KP yesterday came from town. | ||
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On one hand I am glad that I am going out, I would obsess about cracking the code all evening/night/weekend. On the other hand I am sad that I can't obsess about cracking the code all evening/night/weekend. | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:55 Koshi wrote: that was for sure a scum kp. Really good information tbh. yes. | ||
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legion saying "your code is superior" was incredible hilaripus to me as computer scientist. alo im drunk and onw home. .rejoice murrica i will make xou great again. | ||
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u saying iamp 100% confirmed scum by mechanics? makes sense. i didnt not get any clue about ehat happened with my fox assassination andcother ppl seemed similar confused. slso: fuvk astra | ||
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On August 20 2016 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Activity really tanked after the first day, it feels like people are just waiting around to see who dies. cowards. | ||
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I want to thank you for you utmost confidence in me. I will start my first term as the president of the united states with a glimpse hope and as such my first words as the president of the united states of america shall be: GLOWING BEAR YOU LYING FUCK IMMA TAKE YOU DOWN 100% FUCKING SCUM | ||
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option 8 is EXACTLY what GB called his NSA bonus. Getting some lines from quick topics... Number 6 is that no law bs he chose. | ||
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WE WILL HAVE A GOOD OL LYNCH; WAKE UP FUCKEN THREAD | ||
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a) make the usa not be a democracy anymore b) fire a nuke c) more money for the poor d) more money for the rich e) put a bounty on a terrorist f) more QT snippets | ||
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On August 20 2016 07:21 prplhz wrote: if GB had the option before and he didn't choose it then he's mafia too On August 18 2016 00:06 GlowingBear wrote: What did I do that was anti-town? Getting the elections and establishing that any American can be killed today? Is that anti town to you? I'll come clean with you. I had to choose between powers. One was to nuke a terrorist, another was to put a bounty on a player, other was to turn USA in a dictatorship, the other one was to turn the rest of the day into a normal lynch game, and another was to suspend the laws of the U.S. I thought suspending the laws of US would be funnier and would lead to more people killing each other, which would grant us more information. That's the chaos I chose. What it my Mafia motivation behind choosing this? I could simply nuke anyone. *cough* | ||
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More money for rich would help me with my secondary wincons, but fuck secondary wincons. | ||
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was it luna who attracted/made the zombies when he invaded russia? was it chez who made them and they broke free when luna invaded? or did someone else do that. because I highly suspect that the dude who is responsible for that (if it isnt just a event) is anti town 3P or scum | ||
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On August 20 2016 08:23 Half the Sky wrote: Trfel isn't a bad idea. I still have no idea how to read Chezinu though but I'd rather lynch the most certain ones here. ##euvote iamperfection ##usavote GlowingBear (if this is allowed) Paging Damdred to this thread.... go to the vote thread but I like | ||
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On August 20 2016 08:27 prplhz wrote: why are we killing iamperfection On August 20 2016 04:50 Half the Sky wrote: I am now 100% certain that IAMP is mafia. Notifications are in effect only when necessary. For those newer to TL, this means roleblocks and medic/veteran saves/hits are not notified. DT/tracker checks and no results will be. + Show Spoiler + It should be obvious how I know if you can think one modicum outside the box. Now we need to somehow find the other four (five?) Carry on, but I thought I would pop in to let everyone know. | ||
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On August 20 2016 08:32 iamperfection wrote: You guys are so bad On August 20 2016 01:36 iamperfection wrote: I really can't be be bothered to play and probably shouldn't have signed up. everything seems to be happening behind the scenes and this no lynch thing is retarded. Maybe if someone starts a lynch I will make an effort RISE AND SHINE; TIME TO PLAY | ||
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QT 1: "I can't believe you got away with shooting hf and nobody even cares." "I can't believe they seriously think any of us have bananas XD" | ||
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Please note, these QTs are not necessarily in the same order as the previous QTs. QT 1: "I can't believe you got away with shooting hf and nobody even cares." "I can't believe they seriously think any of us have bananas XD" "But yes global warming totally a government conspiracy." | ||
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"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man. Not sketchy at all, right? XD" "/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game" "Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around. I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power." | ||
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"lol yeah will be funny. also if no1 buys the green goo, we should dump it in a river" "I shall await your response tomorrow. Don't make me start a coup. The ordinary man may still be resurrected yet." | ||
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"so we can lynch me next cycle yes" "I bid max money, don't know how to transfer money. Unfortunately that means that if I win the bid, I might die... but with Euros having half power I don't think that I win anyway. Sorry about your secondary win condition " + Show Spoiler + "Even as I sit here, I can't believe I'm writing this. I've never been one to voice my opinions in such a public manner. But after learning that Caller wants to create a desolation and call it peace, I felt I at least had to set a few things straight. To start, he wants to spread rumors, gossip, and stories that are certainly false. Who does he think he is? I mean, the really interesting thing about all this is not that his accusations leave much to be desired. The interesting thing is that it's unfortunate that he has no real education. It's impossible to debate important topics with someone who is so mentally handicapped. Caller's clear-cut demonstrations of gross moral turpitude have led me to believe that I, speaking as someone who is not a stuporous usurer, am fed up to the back teeth with Caller's uninformed jibes. But the problems with Caller's long-term goals don't end there. As a consistently mortified observer of Caller's snow jobs, I can't help but want to restore the traditions that Caller has abandoned. Honor means nothing to him. Principles mean nothing to him. All he cares about is how to bribe the parasitic with the earnings of the productive. In spite of the fact that Caller's claims are pure tripe, many people have witnessed him pamper confused mumpsimuses. Caller generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his nasty objectives on meretricious, dour passéists. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. What's more, if it weren't for Caller's double standards he would have no standards at all. Hence, it's utterly a waste of time even to address Caller's hypocrisy. That's why I'll state merely that he has been known to say that we ought to worship philopolemical, self-deluded racketeers as folk heroes. That notion is so malign, I hardly know where to begin refuting it. In summary, savagism revolves in a fixed orbit around all of Caller's noxious opuscula. Is anyone listening? Does anyone care? I don't intend to discomfit my readers, but I do need to point out that Caller's real enmity against us comes through in his positions, which he uses to emphasize the negative in our lives instead of accentuating the positive. To begin at the beginning, he has conceived the project of reigning over opinions and of conquering neither kingdoms nor provinces but the human mind. If this project succeeds then judgmental jargonauts will be free to work hand-in-glove with the worst sorts of pudibund, moralistic anarchists there are. Even worse, it will be illegal for anyone to say anything about how that fact is simply inescapable to any thinking man or woman. "Thinking" is the key word in the previous sentence. Caller is an expert at calming his adversaries with sweet inversions of the truth. In case you don't believe me, consider how he has managed to convince an alarming number of people that public opinion is a reliable indicator of what's true and what isn't. He does this even though he knows full well that he's convinced that people everywhere have a deeply held love of despotism. I profess that if Caller held a rally in support of despotism, no more than two people would show up—one if you exclude the local street vendor who just happens to be peddling his wares in the vicinity. The reason, obviously, is that Caller has called people like me spleenful demoniacs, sanctimonious criticasters, and pea-brained, moonstruck litterbugs so many times that these accusations no longer have any sting. Caller certainly continues to employ such insults because he's run out of logical arguments. I suppose an alternate explanation is that one can usually be pretty sure when Caller is lying. Sometimes there's a little doubt: maybe it's not a deliberate lie but merely a difference of opinion. But when Caller claims that his adages are intelligent, commonsensical, and entirely consonant with the views of ordinary people, there's no room for ambiguity: he's lying. Caller's dupes have been waxing stridently about miserabilism, Caller's double standards, and why Caller should break down traditional values. Meanwhile, I have been setting the stage so that my next letter will begin from a new and much higher level of influence. What do I hope to achieve by doing such a thing? I hope to achieve widespread recognition that I've managed to come up with a way in which Caller's essays could be made useful. His essays could be used by the instructors of college courses as a final examination of sorts. Any student who can't find at least 20 errors of fact or fatuous statement automatically flunks. Extra credit goes to students who realize that Caller's wrongheaded, confused game of chess—the jaundiced chess of mercantalism—has continued for far too long. It's time to checkmate this invidious loblolly and show him that he is not only immoral but amoral. If anything, by allowing Caller to weave his cruel traits, hidebound exegeses, and power-drunk ploys into a rich tapestry that is sure to represent Heaven as Hell and, conversely, the most wretched life as paradise, we are allowing him to play puppet master. He has not increased our safety, security, or happiness by putting a pestilential, sappy spin on important issues. All he's increased by doing that is the girth of his bloated ego. From a public-policy perspective, I once read an article about how Caller wants nothing less than to transform our little community into a global crucible of terror and gore. It was the powerful and long-lingering momentum of the impressions received on that occasion, more than any other circumstance, that gave definite form and resolution to my purpose of substituting movement for stagnation, purposive behavior for drifting, and visions of a great future for collective pettiness and discouragement. To say that Caller has a close-to-perfect existence that's the envy of the sniffish opportunists around him is sleazy nonsense and untrue to boot. One might think that his claims about dogmatism form a perfect continuum of infinite leaps to vaguely defined conclusions that will rapidly collapse into a singularity of unreason from which no sense can escape, and this is, not surprisingly, the case. If I had to choose between chopping onions and helping him scapegoat easy, unpopular targets, thereby diverting responsibility from more culpable parties, I'd be in the kitchen in an instant. Although both alternatives make me cry, the deciding factor for me is that if Caller believes that our unalienable rights are merely privileges that he can dole out or retract, then it's obvious why he thinks that he understands the difference between civilization and savagery. Although I agree with those who aver that he is becoming ever more audacious in his unappeasable hatred of us, nevertheless, I cannot agree with the subject matter and attitude that is woven into every one of his unforgiving, oligophrenic practices. Isn't it interesting which questions Caller dodges and what tangents he goes off on? Those dodges and tangents make me think that I've never bothered Caller. Yet Caller wants to confuse the catastrophic power of state fascism with the repression of an authoritarian government in our minds. Whatever happened to "live and let live"? He unmistakably believes that my bitterness at him is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish. Unfortunately for him, that's all in his imagination. Caller needs to get out of that fictional world and get back to reality, where people can see that this is a lesson for those with eyes to see. It is a lesson not so much about his anti-democratic behavior but about the way that I am tired of hearing or reading that "metanarratives" are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. You know that that is simply not true. My next point will be so cogent that even Caller will be able to understand it. Specifically, Caller has nothing but contempt for responsibility, duty, and honor. Still, I recommend you check out some of Caller's threats and draw your own conclusions on the matter. The dominant characteristic of his canards is not that they sugarcoat the past and dispense false optimism for the future, but that, in the bargain, they erode constitutional principles that have shaped our society and remain at the core of our freedom and liberty. I do not propose a supernatural solution to the problems we're having with him. Instead, I propose a practical, realistic, down-to-earth approach that requires only that I fight the warped, distorted, misshapen, unwholesome monstrosity that Caller's policies have become. I challenge Caller to point out any text in this letter that proposes that he possesses infinite wisdom. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. Caller screams and cries whenever he's prevented from causing riots in the streets. I, not being one of the many sullen, obscene derelicts of this world, warrant that if he stopped acting like such a big baby, maybe then he'd see that his mottos are based on hate. Hate, Stalinism, and an intolerance of another viewpoint, another way of life. I avouch we should knock down his house of cards. By "house of cards," I'm referring to the fragile, highly unstable, and renitent framework of lies on which Caller's popularity is based. Without that framework, people everywhere would come to realize that Caller has somehow managed to get the media to pay rapt attention to his pretentious prognoses. I don't know what sort of Jedi mind control he's been using to pull that off, but I do know that by Caller's standards, if you have morals, believe that character counts, and actually raise your own children—let alone teach them to be morally fit—you're definitely a stubborn calumniator. My standards—and I suspect yours as well—are quite different from his. For instance, I insist that it's debatable whether Caller's intellectual dishonesty, mismanagement of facts, and outright lies make the most mentally deficient zobs I've ever seen seem ready for sainthood, in comparison. However, no one can disagree that the provision of evidence rebutting his claims is merely fuel piled on the bonfire of his insanity. Hence and therefore, Caller is guilty of at least one criminal offense. In addition, he frequently exhibits less formal criminal behavior such as deliberate and even gleeful cruelty, explosive behavior, and a burning desire to flout all of society's rules. I need your help if I'm ever to shatter the adage that if Caller kicks us in the teeth we'll then lick his toes and beg for another kick. "But I'm only one person," you might protest. "What difference can I make?" The answer is: a lot more than you think. You see, Caller believes it's perfectly okay to mollycoddle slatternly libertines. More than anything else, such beliefs shed light on Caller's moral values and suggest incontrovertibly that he wants us to think of him as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that Caller wants to "do good" with other people's money and often with other people's lives. If he really wanted to be a do-gooder, he could start by admitting that it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Let me rephrase that: His propositions turn the stomachs of those who know even a little about the real world. But what, you may ask, does any of that have to do with the theme of this letter, viz., that he has a different view of reality from the rest of us? Well, I asked the question so I should answer it. Let me start by saying that whenever he's presented with the statement that he is a confirmed liar—a conscious, deliberate, bald-faced, shameless liar—he spews out the hackneyed excuse that it is better that a hundred thousand people should perish than that he should be even slightly inconvenienced. Ironically, such screwball logic is likely to convince even more people that Caller's opinion is that he is able to abrogate the natural order of effects flowing from causes. Of course, opinions are like sphincters: we all have them. So let me tell you my opinion. My opinion is that to someone whose eyes are open, Caller's constantly repeated mantra that one can understand the elements of a scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal histories of the scientists involved is an insanely meddlesome notion. By way of contrast, consider my personal mantra that the one thing that's central to all of Caller's ungrateful denunciations is a desire to make emotionalism socially acceptable. I call this the New Terrorism. The old terrorism was concerned only with making bribery legal and part of business as usual. Although that was bad enough, it would be downright brain-damaged for Caller to deface property with racially and sexually derogatory epithets and offensive symbols. I put that observation into this letter just to let you see that he is guided by the ignis fatuus of ageism. Well, that's another story. To get back to my main point, I ought to mention that I think I know why so many vexatious, postmodernist ditzes prop up corrupt despots around the world. It's because Caller has whipped them into a blind frenzy by telling them that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly. Unfortunately for Caller, the ground truth is that his histrionics are a veritable dictionary and synonymicon of Oblomovism. That said, let me continue. One other thing: Caller contends that we're supposed to shut up and smile when he says haughty, ignominious things and that, therefore, taxpayers are a magic purse that never runs out of gold. This bizarre pattern of thinking leads to strange conclusions. For example, it convinces daft gauleiters (as distinct from the parvanimous profiteers who prefer to chirrup while hopping from cloud to cloud in Nephelococcygia) that Caller is a spokesman for God. In reality, contrariwise, if Caller thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is ultimately unreasonable then maybe he should lay off the wacky tobacky. When I was little, my father would sometimes pick me up, put me on his knee, and say "I'd like people who use 'pressure tactics'—that's a euphemism for 'torture'—to coerce ordinary people into allowing federally funded research to mushroom into a scabrous, grossly inefficient system, hampered by mad gumps and unholy varmints to find themselves behind bars, looking out." Even though Caller insists that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point, I claim that anyone with eyes and a brain can tell that if you were to tell him that his hypnopompic insights are fatally fissiparous, he'd just pull his security blanket a little tighter around himself and refuse to come out and deal with the real world. He really struck a nerve with me when he said that "the norm" shouldn't have to worry about how the exceptions feel. That lie is a painful reminder that Caller's confreres merely present their allegations as though they were true, a technique known as a "conclusory" or "Kierkegaardian" leap. So what's the connection between that and Caller's ramblings? The connection is that we must always be looking towards the future while keeping the past in mind. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless of our wishes on the matter. Caller's crusades have grown into the world's greatest enslavers of human minds. That's too big of a subject to get into here so let me instead discuss how many people are incredulous when I tell them that he intends to extirpate the things that I cherish. "How could Caller be so flippant?", they ask me. "It doesn't seem possible." Well, it is decidedly possible, and now I'll explain exactly how Caller plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that if we foreground the cognitive and emotional palette of his feebleminded, neurotic indiscretions rather than their pathology we can enter vitally into Caller's world. Why do we want to do that? Because if you think that this is humorous or exaggerated, you're wrong. Finally, any one of the points I made in this letter could be turned into a complete research paper, but the conclusion of each would be the same: It is honestly not the intention of Heaven to let Caller crush the remaining vestiges of democracy throughout the world. Caller's vassals all look like Caller, think like Caller, act like Caller, and shift our society from a culture of conscience to a culture of consensus, just like Caller does. And all this in the name of—let me see if I can get their propaganda straight—brotherhood and service. Ha! I surely want to protect the interests of the general public against the greed and unreason of iscariotic, logorrheic bloodsuckers, but I can't do that alone. So do me a favor and lend support to the thesis that we must use our minds and spirits to halt Caller's efforts to lure the loathsome into Caller's coven. That'll show him that many, many people have been hurt by him for daring to ensure that we survive and emerge triumphant out of the coming chaos and destruction. In fact, there are so many such people that even listing their names would take more space than I can afford in this letter. In their honor, though, I will say that the point is that if everyone spent just five minutes a day thinking about ways to burn away social illness, exploitation, and human suffering, we'd all be a lot better off. Is five minutes a day too much to ask for the promise of a better tomorrow? I hope not, but then again, the justification Caller gave for interfering with my efforts to lead him out of a dream world and back to hard reality was one of the most silly justifications I've ever heard. It was so silly, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: Caller is a lamebrained liar. Let's list some of Caller's more deluded lies: First, he claims that the Queen of England heads up the international drug cartel. Second, he insists that the more paperasserie and bureaucracy we have to endure, the better. And third, he wants us to believe that it's okay if his suggestions initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend. I presented that list to get you to see that Caller recently made the astonishing claim that he answers to no one. Stripped of all its hyperbole, this statement is really just saying that Caller likes to argue that he is a master of precognition, psychokinesis, remote viewing, and other undeveloped human capabilities. Admitting the apparent correctness of this morally crippled argument, we may prove the contradictory of its conclusion by an unassailable argument of our own, which is called an elenchus. My elenchus begins with the observation that if Caller had lived the short, sickly, miserable life of a chattel serf in the ages "before technocracy" he wouldn't be so keen to put the public peace perpetually in danger. Maybe he'd even begin to realize that he has been confusing, befuddling, and neutralizing public opposition. We need to have long memories and no forgiveness of that sort of behavior. Instead, we must investigate Caller's contumelious principles, ideals, and objectives. I suggest that we dispense justice. This right and truthful proposition, practically established, will help us overcome the obstacles that people like him establish. While the concept of broad-based peace and social justice coalitions remains desirable, there is an alternative to lying down passively for the executioner. The alternative is to reveal the truth about Caller's homilies. In particular, he never stops boasting about his generous contributions to charitable causes. As far as I can tell, however, Caller's claimed magnanimousness is completely chimerical, and, furthermore, life isn't fair. We've all known this since the beginning of time, so why is he so compelled to complain about situations over which he has no control? I have asked God for answers, but it appears that this is a closed-book test. Let me simply suggest, therefore, that we've all heard Caller yammer and whine about how he's being scapegoated again, the poor dear. It's easy to tell if Caller is lying. If his lips are moving, he's lying. Caller says that he is a martyr for freedom and a victim of fanaticism. That's a stupid thing to say. It's like saying that Comstockism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us. Contrary to the impression that stubborn brutes offer "new," "innovative," and "advanced" ideas, there is little new in their shell games. We need to stick to the facts and offer only those arguments that can be supported by those facts. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. Now the surprising news: I condemn Caller's gross and systematic violations of human rights. I'm not just talking about the arbitrary detentions, enforced disappearances, torture, and summary executions but also about my previous observation that Caller's emissaries have learned their scripts well and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. More often than not, I'm at loggerheads with Caller on at least one important issue. Namely, he argues that trees cause more pollution than automobiles do. I take the opposite position, that I know more about conspiracism than most people. You might even say that I'm an expert on the subject. I can therefore state with confidence that if Caller is victorious in his quest to bring discord, confusion, and frustration into our personal and public lives, then his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity. I have a dream that my children will be able to live in a world filled with open spaces and beautiful wilderness—not in a dark, morally corrupt world run by brassbound, judgmental racketeers. Better, far better, that Man were without the gift of speech than that he use it as Caller does. Better that Man could neither read nor write than have his head and heart perverted by the bilious and hidebound tommyrot that oozes from Caller's pen. And better that the cut of Man's coat and the number of his buttons were fixed by statute and enforced by penalties than that Caller should arouse the hostility and excite the cupidity of gormless rampallions. When you reflect upon this, you'll realize that his viewpoints are more than slovenly. They fill me with a sense of despair. More than anything else, they make me realize that since their emergence on the stage of history, amoral common criminals have been a parasitic growth on the stem of true citizens. If you doubt this, just ask around. Although Caller wants to enable tetchy, unmannerly rumormongers to punch above their weight, if we fail to straighten out our thinking and change the path we're on, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. He demands absolute and blind obedience from his advocates. If he didn't, they might question his orders to pit people against each other. This unrelenting demand of obedience also implies that Caller swears that he acts in the public interest. Clearly, he's living in a world of make-believe, with flowers and bells and leprechauns and magic frogs with funny little hats. Back in the real world, Caller used to maintain that he has the mandate of Heaven to deny citizens the ability to become informed about the destruction that he is capable of. When he realized that no one was falling for that claptrap, he quickly changed his tune to say that lewd, malignant quiddlers are easily housebroken. Caller is clearly a mudslinging liar, and shame on anyone who believes him. If we don't soon tell Caller to stop what he's doing, he will proceed with his unconscionable, jaded ruderies, considerably emboldened by our lack of resistance. We will have tacitly given Caller our permission to do so. Caller, who prides himself on being open-minded and who likes to brag about it, refuses to consider my position that I must ask that his adulators restore the traditions that he has abandoned. I know they'll never do that so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to have a serious destabilizing effect on our institutions. His lickspittles claim to have no choice but to use threats of fiscal harm to coerce vengeful malevolent-types into testing another formula for silencing serious opposition. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, recalcitrant megalomaniacs. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand. Was Caller just trying to be cute when he said that everything he says is entirely and absolutely true? I sure hope so because to someone whose eyes are open, his constantly repeated mantra that his faith in solipsism gives him an uncanny ability to detect astral energy and cosmic vibrations is an insanely presumptuous notion. By way of contrast, consider my personal mantra that I try never to argue with Caller because it's clear he's not susceptible to reason. He ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. In case you're not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the idea, not the person. For the first time ever, a majority of nettlesome widdifuls have been questioning their role in helping Caller gain a respectable foothold for his noisome commentaries. I feel that we should take advantage of this historic opportunity and promote Caller to an elevated status in history as an archdemon of Oblomovism. In a tacit concession of defeat, he is now openly calling for the abridgment of various freedoms to accomplish coercively what his deceitful sallies have failed at. Caller accuses me of being a liar. The only proven liar around here, however, is Caller. Only a die-hard liar like Caller could claim that my bitterness at him is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish. The truth, in case you haven't already figured it out, is that the reason he wants to rot our minds with the hallucinatory drug of alarmism is that he's totally humorless. If you believe you have another explanation for his complacent behavior, then please write and tell me about it. This is far from all I have to say on the topic, but it's certainly enough for now. Just remember one thing: Caller gnaws away at the pillars of our society as if he were a termite chewing on wood." | ||
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QT1 is gold dear scum: shoot me, cause I will be president forever otherwise. fuck I will go dictator next election so I can be pres forever and haunt you to death. | ||
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On August 20 2016 18:02 Skynx wrote: Dw guys my passive is unlynchable and I'll just say "sup guys its skynx here and fak yall" in the QT huehuehue okay nuke skynx, lynch iamp | ||
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On August 20 2016 18:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why do you even think I'm mafia? I told you why the QT doesn't make sense. Anything else chap? I dont trust because I think you are lying about your powers. | ||
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An active that does very bad things to ppl. A passive that gives you some kind of information, but I am not sure if that passive is any good or sometimes gives you bad info or sometimes you lie/withhold info. | ||
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Damdy also hasn't wired me the money he kinda wanted to give me... hope I get that $$$ soon. aight maybe I am too soft but I dont want to lynch art today. going to switch to iamp. | ||
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On August 20 2016 20:20 Skynx wrote: Bah actually fuck re-reading when only like 2-3 people are putting any effort in this game at all. It's impossible for me to access any QT, I'm in Turkey where QT is blocked. Rels, Koshi and Damdy are all 100% aware of this as they were all my coaches at one point where we had to communicate via PM's cuz we couldn't via QT. One of them are taking the advantage of the situation if not all. I also gave 100% transparency this game. I claimed my shot, i gave my reasoning for it. If I never claimed guess what no one knows who killed hf and I cannot be identified by the QT frame. If you didn't like my shot well that sucks and you can go fuck yourself but I'm town and have been framed by the QT. koshi, rels and damdy: can you confirm? | ||
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On August 20 2016 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Mass Effect 3 time time to reunite with Liara! never played 3. too lazy to get an origin account for that. | ||
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but <3 @stutters: if you touch my wall fund, you are dead, k? | ||
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On August 20 2016 22:45 prplhz wrote: what was the Chaos/Peace thing after d1 election and why aren't we seeing anything like it today? GB did a super backtrack on chaos/peace here: On August 18 2016 00:06 GlowingBear wrote: What did I do that was anti-town? Getting the elections and establishing that any American can be killed today? Is that anti town to you? I'll come clean with you. I had to choose between powers. One was to nuke a terrorist, another was to put a bounty on a player, other was to turn USA in a dictatorship, the other one was to turn the rest of the day into a normal lynch game, and another was to suspend the laws of the U.S. I thought suspending the laws of US would be funnier and would lead to more people killing each other, which would grant us more information. That's the chaos I chose. What it my Mafia motivation behind choosing this? I could simply nuke anyone. | ||
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On August 20 2016 23:12 prplhz wrote: GlowingBear/Trfel 2016 is that a check claim? | ||
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we got too many targets too many lurkers causing too many problems i am okay with where my votes are atm. but town really needs to be organized here | ||
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call hsts/koshi/kita | ||
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but fuck if I know anything in this clusterfuck of a game. | ||
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but not really have the time to make cases and rally town and shit. so im with hats/kosh kosh/mankita | ||
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disformation j. trump confirmed town mvp for killing scum via fox news. slso: WTF is this BS eith GB and iamp evading kp/lynch like they are nothing? i guess chez slso dodged a nuke? the fuvk?! | ||
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On August 22 2016 02:54 GlowingBear wrote: I said I could protect black people but actually black people protects me. You lynch me and you'll lose the game. Not a single mafia has died. I told you skynx was town... Lynch lunatic, art, prpl. Kill them. You'll hit mafia. On August 21 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote: Fox News! A fair and balanced look at American society Chase Through Ikea Finally Ends, Anti-American Killed After an entire day of chasing an old man through Ikea. Holy shit was he surprisingly fast. Our associates have delivered on their promise: Trfel - Ingvar Kamprad was found dead holding a recently delivered box. + Show Spoiler + Ingvar Kamprad Nationality: European, Swedish Faction: Mafia Starting Location: Europe Traits: Rich Abilities:
Are we even in the same game? Why did you do jack last cycle? On August 21 2016 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: Oh btw Rels and prpl are mafia. I just know. On August 22 2016 02:54 GlowingBear wrote: I said I could protect black people but actually black people protects me. You lynch me and you'll lose the game. Not a single mafia has died. I told you skynx was town... Lynch lunatic, art, prpl. Kill them. You'll hit mafia. where did rels go? @Luna: On August 21 2016 07:59 ritoky wrote: Resolution phase now over, remember about the posting restrictions during the night Prepare to get screwed over by Palmar. you are like on post 4/2. We are still 19 ppl? Only ones I trust: mankita/hats/kosh kosh prolly town: m_z, damdy, ff (pure tone read) though i havent received the $$$ damdy wanted to give me yet. hope they arrive at end of this phase need to look at some filters tomorrow. pretty pissed about the QT snippet BS though. And ppl not dying left and right. Frustrating really. Next election i will prolly do lynch + something else. Agreeing with koshi. Games seems to bank on townies shooting townies for their wincons and scum being hard to kill, so they dont die accidentally all die D1 or something. 2/2 cu later/tomorrow | ||
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On August 22 2016 13:49 GlowingBear wrote: Did kita tell you that we are in a QT? Because we are why are you teo in a qt? how long are you two in a qt? is someone else in there? can kita cofirm? are you confirmed to each othr? | ||
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On August 22 2016 11:57 kitaman27 wrote: Does anyone have any explanation for this one? I've been trying to figure out the numbers, but I haven't had any luck so far. Dandel's flip didn't indicate this was one of his abilities so does anyone else have a power that might be the key to figuring this out? I also tried to see if dandel might have bread crumbed his protect in the event that he got shot and died. He posted this exactly 1 minute before the deadline so maybe he was protecting koshi? It's kinda hard to say. tried a bunch of stuff with the numbrrs. had a hunch. hatd to talk about that without giving hints to find the savior as well. well koshi/hats/you/me are all decwnt targezs for scum/kp saves, so it is hard to tell imo. | ||
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@m_z did you receive my donation? i apparently havent got the money from damdy, so i cant build my wall this cycle. question is if someone can block/steal transactions or if damdy lied to me. | ||
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On August 22 2016 16:53 Rels wrote: Koshi is 100% the best president. disfo is likely town too but he's less involved and has less impact than disfo. + let's not forget that it was disfo that posted the QT message that got Skynx lynched. So the QT was forged, or disfo forged it. im also the one who got trfel killed? which cost me 1.5b, which could have been used for my wall? like me spending money is pkaying against my secondary objectives, but for my wincon. you know like town winning. and im super pissed about that qt stuff, so pkease dont say i forged that bs. what i postrd was exactly what i got. | ||
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i think as long as one of kita/koshi/hsts/me gets the job im fine. not sure what happsns if you are pres of multiple pkaces at once. would spreadingvout pres roles mske sense in order to make it harder for scum to remove all key players? my passive giving me two votes on me would work this cycle the other one is us only imo. | ||
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I had a hunch of a really stupid idea that had the 14770601 pointing to trfel, not going to say what it was though. Also. since Trfels passive scum probably knew he was gonna die, so everything with/about trfel D2 was prolly wifom + he probably gave away his items/cash. incidently the only person who brought up trfel D2 was like Art, if I remember right. | ||
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On August 22 2016 16:53 Rels wrote: Koshi is 100% the best president. disfo is likely town too but he's less involved and has less impact than disfo. + let's not forget that it was disfo that posted the QT message that got Skynx lynched. So the QT was forged, or disfo forged it. On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote: Skynx is super likely scum Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel also: touché | ||
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On August 22 2016 17:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Seriously? It's like you guys start from the conclusion that I'm scum and then find ways to support that argument. "He accused a scum that was already giving up so that's suspiciousssss" more like "he accussed scum, that ppl kinda forgot about, but he knew would flip soon". though TBH I am super waffly about you. should prolly reread your filter this evening and then decide. | ||
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On August 22 2016 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: How would I even have known he would flip soon? There are like 10 lurkers/people with low content that could all get killed. ... his passive basically says that kp on him will be delayed by 1 cycle, because ppl have to chase him through an Ikea. There was an announcement the cycle before that the fox assassination squad is chasing an unpatriotic person through an ikea... I would think the scum team communicates good enough to figure out what is will/be happening... | ||
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I think kurumi was saying he got the read from dandel? which is a bit strange too me, but so far noone else has stepped up and I didnt get jack. | ||
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And decide how we are going to deal with our preferred targets. E.g. Chez probably needs to be lynched if we want to get rid of him. | ||
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if I run I auto. add two votes on me, decreasing chance for other ppl a bit and splitting the vote pool a lot. | ||
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also: On August 22 2016 07:48 Palmar wrote: United Nations Suggest a permanent Peace. Since the Communist Zombies took over in Soviet Russia, world relations have improved dramatically. For the first time in the history of the planet, there will be a World Leader election. Today there will be World Leader elections. All other democratic Elections are suspended until further notice. Extensive executive powers will be handed to a world leader. For the candidates: Please announce your candidacy officially in the thread by typing: ##I announce my candidacy for the World Leader For the voters: Please vote for one of the candidates by submitting their name in a PM to the host before Monday, Aug 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Any current inhabitant of the Earth is allowed to vote. In order for a World Leader to be Elected he must gain 66% of available votes. so the 66% includes all of the 3P, scum and lurkers. like we really need 66% of the ppl in this thread to vote the same person. not including vote manipulation stuff... | ||
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tbh I would want for kita to step down on that, since we need to consolidate really hard here. but I want to see if kita is down with that first. | ||
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There are ppl, who I think have more money than me, but if it gets you ppl to play a proper town game I am willing to place a decent bid on that thing. | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote: I disagree. He is making sense in a way that he has been pushing the same agenda since D1. But that agenda looks pro town and I have agreed with his town & mafia reads through the entire game. Last game we played he was way more of an insane enigma. Spamming everything and then some. In Onegu 2 town!luna was pretty tunneled on scum!me, but his cases were build on a lot of things that didn't make me scum. I am seeing a bit of a similarity to that in how he approaches GB and Art today. | ||
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np, hopes that motivates you a bit to do stuff this game. <3 | ||
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Everybody vote Koshi. ##WorldLeaderVote Koshi @Kita: I really hope you are down with this. @Everyone else: Not voting Koshi is claiming scum. | ||
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Remember that everyone could vote for the lynches regardless of nation and stuff? How I was able to kill a foreigner with fox news? I wouldn't be so sure with these things from the fluff description. | ||
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Though the extra votes on me should also increase how much 66% is, so it is not that much of a benefit? Splitting the votes is straight up horrible though. Also not sure if giving one person all the leaderships is good. | ||
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I feel this game wants/requires tons of activity for the 2x24h cycles. | ||
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I guess there is a scum / 3P role that can block/intercept transactions? Actually would make sense. Damdreds transaction never reached me, mine never reached you, so I probably was transaction blocked or something. So yeah. Talking in thread about this stuff is probably not a good idea. -.- | ||
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On August 23 2016 01:37 Koshi wrote: Available votes better means votes casted. Otherwise I am going to get like 20% yeah, was running some maths. getting like 13 or 14, depending on how palmar rounds it, of 20 votes is impossible in this situation imo. xD you should be at 7 currently, counting all the ppl voting you in thread. though chez and iamp are prolly voting themselves, which already moves you down to: 77.777778% | ||
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I also forgot you were in the game, but i am pleasantly surprised. tried to take a nap, but couldnt really sleep. hope ill be awake until/at deadline. | ||
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wont tell though. | ||
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Dont waste more stuff on him. | ||
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Read his filter and it is far less funny/engaging than town!chez was in the star wars game. So I agree with that point. | ||
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Because I am good at guessing stuff. Toy that wants to go to space? Common, there is like one that instantly jumps to mind. | ||
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On August 23 2016 04:44 Half the Sky wrote: No. This is why I am saying infinite, infinite types of (the same) kp. So my assumption for the time being is that Chez is immune to nukes and whatever type of kp Luna hauled at him. If that was a classic vig shot then you could go with any kp that is not a vig shot or a nuke. I'm sure something has to kill Chez, but like you said, lynch would be best. ... Remind me to not join themed games after this is done. | ||
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On August 23 2016 05:39 prplhz wrote: who was it who robbed GlowingBear again? Shapelog? Stutters | ||
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On August 23 2016 05:43 GlowingBear wrote: Then you've got 250 million dollars and a birth certificate. Did you tell that to the thread? On August 19 2016 02:10 Stutters695 wrote: Second night post, but I want to get this out there. I was the one who robbed GB. I received cash as well as a birth certificate which allows me to appear as a US citizen to checks, participate in elections and vote in the US. If it was just the money, I wouldn't have said anything but this calls into question his role claim to me. yes. not the exact amount though. | ||
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2/3 of my abilities (keeping the last one as a trump card ;D) 1/2 traits 3/3 secondary objectives 1/1 nationalities not going to disclose my financial situation think that is pretty fair. | ||
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@luna can anyone of you do stuff? | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd imagine if that were the case he just wouldn't be elected. agree. | ||
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how the fuck are we supposed to sort zhis out in less than 24h with hslf the players not giving a fuck? please kill me on that thing. i apparebtly arent allowed to push myself into thr fire | ||
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@kita: feel free to direct my pull n push i will sheep you on this | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:54 kitaman27 wrote: Okay, first we need to come up with the kill list. 1) chezinu 2) GlowingBear 3) prplhz Does anyone strongly oppose to these three for starters? list looks fine. feel free to direct my push n pull. will sheep you on this. | ||
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On August 23 2016 09:19 Tumblewood wrote: + Show Spoiler [current position] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 push on kurumi 1 push on chez 1 push on prp + Show Spoiler [we are here] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__prplhz__][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__Kurumi__] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 push on kurumi 1 push on disfo (assume we don't use the item / it doesn't change everything drastically) 1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [we are here] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 push on iamp 1 push on chez 1 push on GB + Show Spoiler [we are here] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__________prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][__________] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 pull on luna (maybe) 1 pull on damdred 1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [final position] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] we have 1 PoP of buffer room for every change. woohoo! takes 8 pushes and 4 pulls looks good. if kita agrees were doing thst. just tell mexwhat/when to use my stuff | ||
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so even if we know/are correct in who we think is scum, we will have trouble getting rid of them. | ||
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But I would advise waiting until another probable town is around and agrees to push me, otherwise they could push someone else over me? | ||
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On August 23 2016 18:46 Rels wrote: You need to be in spot 3 to get the item, if you're pushed 2 times you'll be in spot 3. I was taking about the two spots per spot. Like 2 persons can stand on one spot on the belt. I am currently in spot 2 of my position. if you push me 1 forward I should be in spot two of my postion -1, no? | ||
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On August 23 2016 18:49 Rels wrote: I think you only go forward and backward, no moving sideways. yes that would make it impossible for me to get the item | ||
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On August 23 2016 19:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I believe all the numbers are one 'slot'. You only get put on the right side if there's no place for you on the left side. Could be wrong tho. Yeah. Its one of those options. Both make sense. I think in visual terms so I am thinking very close to what the representation looks like. would be great if someone could confirm which option it is? | ||
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Artanis[Xp] Rels Lunaticman push pull kitaman27 push pull Stutters695 push pull Damdred push pull Shapelog push pull Fecalfeast push pull Disformation push pull GlowingBear push pull iamperfection push pull sicklucker push pull Meapak_Ziphh push pull Chezinu push pull prplhz Kurumi Half the Sky | ||
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we might need to take a look if we can transition back to that plan now. maybe we should try to off one person less, in order to be more safe hope the item does something usefull | ||
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On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote: Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be: (1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan (2) Get disformation out yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer. | ||
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On August 23 2016 22:29 Half the Sky wrote: One thing I read in Death Factory 2 that then-host Ace was scolding the town (that conceded lol) was that town were trying to burn too many scum at once. In that game syllogism was the obvious mafia but town were divided on trying to take syllo, and zendor and someone else out all at once and got nothing achieved. (There was the additional issue of town failing to pull scum off when they had the opportunity but that's a moot point here.) TLDR: Focus on the consensus targets/saves first, and keep it simple. I wouldn't even try and think ahead on the what if's, but that's the lesson I took away from reading the DF games. Okay, now I'm out. Fair point. | ||
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On August 23 2016 22:50 Damdred wrote: I'm here had some rl things to take care of can someone explain what this is going on Instead of Mafia we are playing a game where we have to pull and push ppl over a factory conveyor belt. If you stand on a red spot on the end of day you die. There is also an item on in the red spots, which is why we pushed me onto it to collect it. I will hopefully get pulled back to safety. You want to read this: On August 23 2016 07:35 Palmar wrote: The Machine Cabal Reports AI Uprising Humanity is disposable. The organic matter better used for fuel than for whatever it is humans enjoy to do. As such, we will be burning humanity in a very efficient way on a conveyor belt. To the Furnace You have all been placed on a conveyor belt slowly being moved towards a terrifying furnace. There is enough space on the belt for two humans side by side. 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_GlowingBear_] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Game Mechanics: 1. Unlike normal voting this day works on a Push and Pull system. If you type ## push: player then that player will be bumped up one spot (+1) in the queue. If you type ## pull: player then they will be bumped down (-1) in the queue. Any lethal spots in the queue will be highlighted in red. At the end of the Day any players in a red numbered queue will be incinerated. Realize that multiple mass lynches are possible. Be careful. 2. Please "vote" in the following format: ##Push Qatol or ## Pull Qatol. "Votes" from here on in refered to as Push or Pulls aka PoPs not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update PoP counts whenever I get the chance 3. There is enough room for 2 humans to occupy the same spot on the conveyor belt. However if a 3rd human is PoPed into their spot that human is going to be PoPed into the next available spot in most cases. Clearly there are exceptions to this rule. 4. Humans can be PoPed to the edge of the conveyor belt (aka the highest or lowest slot on the queue). If they are pushed past that they will escape the hellish nightmare. However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots "red" aka "dead". 5. You may not PoP yourself in most instances. 6. Humans have one Push and one Pull option per day. Use them wisely because once they are used you can not get them back on that day. 7. If you get to the Item, you will receive the item! Ah also: koshi was abducted so he is not in this mini game and you cant use abilities/items/cash whatever. | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:12 disformation wrote: assuming i am on the item. we can get that: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[_GlowingBear_][___________] 4.[_prplhz_][_Chezinu_] 5.[___________][___________] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] with:
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On August 23 2016 23:17 disformation wrote: we can also add a pull on me/damdy at the end to make it harder for scum to save themselves and before that add two pulls to get kurumi into the red. | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:27 kitaman27 wrote: Wait a minute. Are we interpreting pushes and pulls correctly? I don't think so. what do you mean exactly? | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:30 kitaman27 wrote: If there is a free spot horizontally to the right, will a player take that position before moving vertically up? For instance, now that we pushed disfo twice, is it possible that he is sitting in 4b, like below: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][_Disformation_] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_]_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We would need to expand an extra push to get him to the item slot if it works this way. uh, no? | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:31 Tumblewood wrote: so now we use 9 pushes and 5 pulls, including the pushes we used on disfo. new plan starts "2 pull on disfo" and we don't move disfo otherwise 9 pushes is quite a lot though | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:35 kitaman27 wrote: okay nevermind. So the only way to get to 4b is if 4a is occupied and you get pushed from 5+, which didn't happen in this case, right? no? | ||
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eh, yes? | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:48 Rels wrote: I dunno but I'm like 99% sure it works like expected, IE if you're pushed you go to the next bloc and not sideways Yeah but if you are in position b of bloc 2 and you get pushed do you got to position a or b of bloc 1 (assuming both are free) | ||
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On August 23 2016 23:50 Rels wrote: I would assume (a) if it's free, (b) if (a) is not free, and the next bloc if both are occupied I assume the same, but i do not 100% know. | ||
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sry, i dont give a fuck | ||
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eh actually I probably care way too much for this kind of game, so that probably is not true. still dont see a reason why i should have read any of caller games. maybe I should have. maybe i would have realized i shouldnt have signed up for this. but now you are stuck with me and I see 0 reason to trust you this game or think that you are town or pro-town. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:18 Kurumi wrote: then pardon me for calling you a moron and a twat Alright little princess. I don't think imma buying you the pony you want for christmas this year. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:23 kitaman27 wrote: So we're here right now. 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Disformation__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][____________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Pull Luna Pull Disfo Pull Disfo We for sure want to get Disfo back to safety. Doing the pull on Luna first, puts disfo in a safer spot. Push kita Push chezinu Push Tumble Then can move me up to 11 to save a push on chezinu and then move tumble to safety at the 13 spot as well. 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Now we can push prpl up to 4 and pull back damdred to safety. Push prpl Pull damdred 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__prplhz__][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[_Damdred_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] By my count that is 4 pulls and 4 pushes. Now we have a couple options how we want to finish this up. We can either roast just the three baddies like disfo mentioned, in which case we would want to push GlowingBear and Chezinu to slots three and then swap Luna with either iamp or kurumi to keep the scummier people in 6 in case of shenanigans. Or we can send additional people into the flames like tumble originally laid out. Either way we should have more than enough pushes and pulls to spare even if some people afk this afternoon/evening. Anyone see any issues with this? I think this works. I would add another pull to luna at the end, so scum cant save chez with one pull? | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:29 disformation wrote: I think this works. I would add another pull to luna at the end, so scum cant save chez with one pull? oh nvm, they can regardless. carry on. want me to pull luna? | ||
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but it is nothing affecting the mini game snd pur current situation. | ||
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I found a backpack containing a bunch of items. Good News: None of them are Koshi's head or other body parts. Bad News: Since we cant use items atm, those don't help us solve this shit. Good News: It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. Bad News: I bid a ton of money on that damn shuttle first half of D1. Good News: The backpack also contained some KP. So really glad the bad boys didn't get it. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:37 Kurumi wrote: so let me get this straight you believe im mafia and i shot a guy who was getting nuked reason being? explain it to me in case you dont believe me, the post clearly says Onegu was strangled guess what, I strangle people Fair enough you got me there. | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:07 Kurumi wrote: thank you i hope this will bring a renewal for good german-polish reliations not 100% sold, I probably need to read your filter some time, but I think we have other stuff to do for today. | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:08 Rels wrote: Is stutters reallt still in this game. Was he hit by a mute spell or what he only posts like 1-2 per cycle. did he reach filter page 2 yet? | ||
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Tumblewood push pull Artanis[Xp] Rels Lunaticman push pull kitaman27 push pull Stutters695 push pull Damdred push pull Shapelog push pull Fecalfeast push Disformation GlowingBear push pull iamperfection push pull sicklucker push Meapak_Ziphh push pull Chezinu push pull prplhz Kurumi Half the Sky | ||
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push chez push prpl pull disfo @FF: can you push chez @Damdred: after FF pushed chez, push prpl and then pull me | ||
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only one needs to be giving orders otherwise this will be bullshit | ||
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@kita you can take over if you want. you should be able to get us an improved position from here | ||
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On August 24 2016 03:36 Rels wrote: well I can't force anyone to do anything, I'm just town-aligning becaus solving the game is funny and because I don't want town to kill me and because I wsant town to help me go to space sry, this game is giving me trust issues. and anger management issues and sleep deprivation issues and productivity at work issues. | ||
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On August 24 2016 05:55 Chezinu wrote: Hey guys, sorry for stalling... Who should I push or pull? You've literally been Stalin around all game. | ||
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though no clue why you would shoot DI. Well he was kinda trolly for a while, but I thought it got a lot better as the game was progression. | ||
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##Hold the Door | ||
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14 ppl left. Really need to find time to reread filters tomorrow. Paranoia time. | ||
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QTs Yes. Again. Cause it worked so good last time. Remember my QT snippets? Look at this one again: QT 2: "I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man. Not sketchy at all, right? XD" "/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game" "Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around. I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power." Timeline:
At that time only scum could have known that Trfel will def. die to the fox squad! Also: On August 21 2016 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Trfel is one of the few people that uses XD so I think he's likely in the QT 1 thing too. Problem there is that QT 2 has it as well. Makes me wonder if QT 2 and QT 1 come from the same QT. Given it has at least 174 posts I would venture to say they might both be from the mafia QT. Do we know who was in QT 2? So I think the first guy in QT2 has a pretty high chance of being Trfel himself. Then D3 something very funny happened: On August 22 2016 13:49 GlowingBear wrote: Did kita tell you that we are in a QT? Because we are On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago. We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers. GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that. On August 23 2016 11:54 GlowingBear wrote: Btw kita is 100% msfia Let's take a look at that again: On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago. We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers. GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that. Kita you could have mentioned that Trfel was in there, too... Because I really really don't think the first QT post is from either you, GB or HF (not to mention HF was pretty much dead at that time)... and I don't think either of you had any reason to try and pretend to be Trfel in there either. So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel... | ||
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On August 25 2016 03:21 kitaman27 wrote: lol disfo I'm not talking about trfel there and trfel was not in the QT with me. The quote there is in reference to HolyFlare. HolyFlare, GB, and I all share a secondary win condition to get ourselves elected. HF died on day one so I made a joke about whether or not we could get him elected as a dead man. Besides, it's obviously not the mafia QT because GB has already flipped. On August 16 2016 23:14 kitaman27 wrote: lol I swear we always have really similar reads every game we play, but then are always are suspicious of each other at the same time XD On August 17 2016 07:43 kitaman27 wrote: lol those results XD Makes sense to compile an american vote count for the sake of knowing what we are dealing with. GB and chez should be as transparent as possible with their powers.....assuming they received any. so it is not a trfel only thing. But werent you just suggesting that the flips have been altered? Now you are 100% that GB is town. Paranoia level rising. Time for some filters Tumblewood Once had a problem with him over the QT stuff, but that was probably just me being paranoid. Didn't have much impact this game, but other than that I like his filter. Decent reads, Scum rating: low Questions @ Tumblewood: You seem to to have TR on Rels or at least believe his 3P claim. Can you elaborate on that read? Rels Does nothing and claims 3P survivor when questioned about doing nothing. Does not directly claim, but needs a little push here, too. That was D2. Why no claim 3P survivor D1? Bunch of bleh posts and sheeping the same wrong reads as everyone D2. Suddenly starts playing D3 in the factory game. OMGUSES on SL, but that kinda makes sense as survivor. Then there is this: Which worries me a bit... could he be scum knowing that a lot of town will die and trying to win more here? On the other hand that also kinda makes sense as 3P survivor. On the other hand holding the door makes no sense as a 3P survivor or scum for that matter. Has a few reads/posts I kinda like D3 though. Not sure if I want to trust him, we should make him use his RB for something D4. Scum rating: medium Luna Pretty mehish lists D1. A few strange tinfoils about the game. I actually like those, kinda think it is hard to come up with such stuff as scum. E.g. space invasions, hillary being in the game etc. Him really not liking nukes also makes me more inclined to think he is town favoured. Transparent with his Soviet gains. Has a few "strange" posts, but I think that is NAI for him. That being said, I don't think I am very good at reading this guy, so other opinions are greatly appreciated. Though I am pretty confused about his role and powers. Like he seems to have a fuckton of gold, know stuff about the environment and was able to invade russia? Scum rating: low-medium Questions @ Luna: Who of the town leaders is in your opinion most likely to be scum? Why? Kurumi Has some anti-american and revolutionist talk at the start of the game: On August 17 2016 11:32 Kurumi wrote: I hate Americans more than you do, mate, so take a chill gulp of vodka. How about a round of friendly blackjack, huh? We might have a revolution or two to talk over. Page one of his filter has basically nothing. He has a fairly brash tone to him, slightly less like to be scum for that. D3 he gets into a little argument with me, continuing with the brash tone. Also brings up a decent point about his actions: On August 24 2016 00:37 Kurumi wrote: so let me get this straight you believe im mafia and i shot a guy who was getting nuked reason being? explain it to me in case you dont believe me, the post clearly says Onegu was strangled guess what, I strangle people I have a hard time figuring out how the stuck in space and (not) blowing up the moon stuff fits with the anti-american stuff he posted D1. He also never even once responds to the gulag break-in, break-out. On August 18 2016 05:39 Damdred wrote: A rogue kgb agent has just emailed me the footage of the breakout (which seems to be successful) Shape was rescued by someone who was identified as dickbutt mcdick Upon further studies it seems to be kurumi Also not many reads and figuring out stuff. Like it does not make incredible sense for him to be scum, but there are a lot of points that make it difficult for me to trust him. Scum rating: Medium Questions @ Kurumi: Can you tell us more about the role? WTF happend with the gulag break-in, break-out? Current reads? Mankita See first part of this post for some recent stuff. So. I am on page 3 of his filter and it is a lot of questions leading not far and mechanic/organization talk. Then this list appears (colors added by me): On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote: Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here. Onegu prplhz Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Dandel Ion Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something. For some weird reason I have a feeling that this list does not contain a single scummer, but only town and 3P. On August 17 2016 12:23 kitaman27 wrote: We should probably use the Fox News power on Onegu.[...] Suggests using Fox on Onegu. On August 19 2016 07:50 kitaman27 wrote: ##I announce my candidacy for the Chancellor of Europe I promise to be completely transparent with all my actions as Chancellor. If I'm able to share my election choices with the thread before choosing, I'll definitely do so. Otherwise I'll go with the most pro-town option like a lynch or public dt check. I also get a bonus power if elected, similar to Obama's NSA quicktopic spy bonus power, so that would swell to obtain. Vote for Kita ^_^ What was that bonus again? He never explained it. He was open with the choices and chose a pro town mechanic, but at this point he kinda had to, after seeing how much shit GB got for his choice. Than a huge lot of D3 mechanics and organizing. He also came up with the kill list. I am def. getting a lot of paranoia vibes here. We also know jack about kita's role. We only know that he has role that is German, but only from the QT. A lot of his filter looks like doing stuff. But in the end his lists kinda come outta nowhere and it is hard to see how most of his reads evolve. Like I am not sure how he got from the previous read list I posted to: On August 19 2016 06:39 kitaman27 wrote: Here is where I'm at right now. Really Town Half the Sky Koshi Disformation Tumblewood kitaman27 Mostly Townie Skynx Damdred Dandel Ion Fecalfeast No Clue Kurumi Stutters695 Trfel Rels sicklucker Shapelog Kinda scummy, but less so than group below Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Meapak_Ziphh Probably Mafia GlowingBear iamperfection prplhz Chezinu E.g. no clue how/why dandel moved from the scum to mostly town. Yeah. There are a bunch of points that look real sketch here. It is a bit of tinfoil/paranoia. But I think town needs paranoia. Kita suggesting that there is a janitor and we actually got scum is exactly trying to prevent that. It is pure mechanically WIFOM trying to prevent town from being to paranoid. But my reads flow like water. Scum rating: High Stutters His filter looks super hard like 3P survivor. Like the only contribution in his filter is the thing with GB's birth certificate. Other than that he only agrees with Damdy on shooting GB and meekly agrees with Kita just after I post the QT thing. Interesting timing there. Ask yourself: what is he trying to achieve this game? Well, he is def. not solving anything here. The bits about his role being as good dead: Scum will 100% never shoot him here, so who is he trying to convince that he should survive? Town obv... Scum rating: High Damdy Wow. That filter is surprisingly lame. Damdy also didn't do the town thing he does when he is town and I instantly townread him for this game. Like he starts out with some decent stuff after being a bit late to the game into nothing. Then he buys the info about the gulag break-in break-out: On August 18 2016 05:39 Damdred wrote: A rogue kgb agent has just emailed me the footage of the breakout (which seems to be successful) Shape was rescued by someone who was identified as dickbutt mcdick Upon further studies it seems to be kurumi But just doesn't go anywhere with it, don't think town damdy would just drop that like he did here. Also while he was very suspicious of me at the start of the game, he changes his tone/attitude to me to buddy buddy real fast, after I get uni. townread. No solving the game past D1 and I have no idea about his reads. On August 21 2016 06:47 Damdred wrote: I have selected GB as my target this day. I would suggest one of Shape, Trfel, Prp That is the only mention of Trfel in his filter. It was well after the ikea chase announcement. Was he trying to get town to waste kp on a dead man? Also around to ##Get to safety but not to ##Hold the Door. Also promises to read Arts filter, never does so. Though I do the not delivering thing as both alignments. Scum rating: high Questions @ Damdy: Any reason you didn't press Kurumi about the gulag thing? What are your current reads like? FF Tone is really town. Koshi has apparently some sort of check or insight on him. There were actually a few reads thrown in there. Scum rating: low Koshi If supreme leader Koshi is scum we are supremely fucked anyway. Skipping this one. Really looking forward to his powers and updated reads. Scum rating: nope iamp Well, okay the guy is def. not town and that shouldn't surprise anyone. Him bitching about there being no lynches a lot makes sense if that is his true wincon. He also had a decent, somewhat natural read on GB, after GB did that chaos thing. On the other hand that is basically his whole filter and he is pretty anti-town. Still think it makes slightly more sense for him to be 3P. Scum rating: low-medium SL, M_Z and Hats: Will do those tomorrow, currently too tired to continue. Should maybe read Koshis filter for real, too. Will prolly not be around at deadline, about to fall over. Conclusion: Kitaman, Stutters, Damdred How many scummers are in games of this size? 4 seems a bit meager. 5? 6? 7? Maybe I am cutting FF too much slack here. Prolly some of my medium guys or the ones I haven't reread yet. | ||
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your D1 was ultra town. WP, you deserve this win. | ||
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Kurumi Trfel kitaman27 iamperfection Koshi what a team. I also would have had a hard time thinking both kurumi and damdred were scum after the gulag thing. and dat iamp in there... no way we would have won that. i am glad I figured out Damdy, Kita and Trfel though... | ||
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On August 27 2016 07:55 Trfel wrote: Thanks guys for the carry well you at least ate 1.5b usd | ||
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and I should have been gunning for world leader cause the +2 votes would have made it really safer for me to get elected. actually koshi getting elected without problem should have set off some alarm bells | ||
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On August 27 2016 08:31 Kurumi wrote: Oh and disfo - I didn't mean a word I wrote in this game I like you all, I enjoy playing with you. xoxo np. Still not buying you a pony this christmas. :p | ||
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Had to choose one of my three targets. lol for thinking I just could by a ridic. amount of KP. Chose Trfel obv. Original Message From Palmar: I appreciate the effort, doesn't look like he's running. | ||
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On August 27 2016 09:26 Skynx wrote: Yeh i lied about rng btw just shot HF for shits n giggles | ||
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On August 27 2016 17:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also wp Koshi. Might've been able to get you from how you started playing later but early on you looked like Town!Koshi 100%. Same goes for Kita. Kurumi also had some AtE's that looked good and Iamp played the 3p claim well. Also also Disfo town MVP. When I was briefly skimming Koshi's filter N3 I was like: "oh wait his D2 wasn't actually good.... NVM his D1 is so Town imma sheep him forever:" Kita had some cracks, but its really hard to write a decent case on him, as Hats pointed out already. Should have maybe interacted/pushed Kuru a bit harder D3. Will need to remember that he can have a very brash tone as scum. But yeah overall the scum team played very very well and town had a bunch of pretty bad fuck ups. So it is a very well deserved victory. Even if it ends my town win streak. also <3 for calling me MVP. I love you for hodoring that door. | ||
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On August 27 2016 20:13 Koshi wrote: How high was your win streak? Feels like I have only seen mafia wins in 2016. Ok saw your profile. So many mafia rolls . and newbies. And Star Wars Like 90% of my town wins are also me getting carried by Damdy. =p | ||
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On August 27 2016 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think Kita really fell through when he was still highly suspicious of hats after the qt got posted. That just makes her town all day erryday, but it didn't really matter anymore at that point. yeah. some parts of his entire push on her were kinda scummy too. | ||
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On August 28 2016 03:00 NocturneMage wrote: good read. mafia team had this in the bag. I'd never have caught kitaman or koshi. too many townies didn't play or play well tbh, those that tried were just off track. except Vivax. I don't know why Onegu shot Superbia and as for Skynx RNGing any vig shot is just bad play. If you're town read by most and people are disagreeing with you on a read you should probably get insight before you take the shot. how HTS didn't get modkilled in lylo is beyond me but I'm sure the mods had reasons. + Show Spoiler + k, hey it would have been funny to see her bitchslapped into outer space too. Hehe <3 hts. Kitaman pushing her after the qt incident was basically claiming mafia imo but I do see he was trying to sac himself for Damdred so it at least made sense. Koshi playing God in lylo was hilarious regardless of alignment. wp disformation on that fox news kill. how much did it cost you again? ggs and well run hosts. entertaining in every sense. 1.5 b usd. i started with 2.6b usd and had an ability that gave me 1.5b each use (aka each day unless I wanted to use something else), building the wall (a secondary objective) cost 8b usd and another secondary objective was being the richest man ever at the end of the game, so I was playing against my secondaries for the sake of my primary: making town great again. got reaaaally lucky to be able to build the wall regardless. On August 28 2016 03:01 NocturneMage wrote: also why did people start calling hts hats? Dunno. Think someone did it as a troll or typo. I liked it. | ||
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On August 28 2016 16:13 Dandel Ion wrote: twas me all along my slightly annoying nicknames always make it. it is my greatest skill. that reminds me: how did that number thing work? | ||
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