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On August 15 2016 02:23 iamperfection wrote: Trying a new style won't post as much Palmar not sending all PMs at the same time confirmed | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote: Second. Confirmed town. Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not. You can go to always town pile for this post. 100 % accurate read btw. | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:49 Tumblewood wrote: WTF type of game are you guys playing with your 'town' and 'scum' I'm not town or scum, I'm a dude who needs a lot of money Third party then. | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:51 Tumblewood wrote: but I'm not exactly clear on the difference except I want town to win or do well or something. but mostly I just need money. if any of you know a Nigerian prince who can hook me up... I can offer you a loan if you can convince me that your ROI will be satisfying. | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:58 Tumblewood wrote: because you can't become president of Russia if you're American But even though it's normal to expect it, the same condition isn't written down for the soviet union. So maybe anyone could apply for it. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:03 kitaman27 wrote: In Soviet Russia, President elect you! Since the voting is private, it probably makes sense to cast your votes in the thread and then if the counts differ from the actual result, it could help narrow down who lied. I think that's too complex especially with this amount of players. Also really only viable if you know the presidents alignments right after the election. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:11 kitaman27 wrote: Not really though. Say two people pledge their vote to grack. Then we find out grack received 1 vote. We'd essentially know that 1 out of 2 players was lying at that point. It doesn't matter what gracks alignment is. Plus it's not like people aren't going to share who they want to elect as mayor. Shouldn't be too hard to keep track. We don't have lynches so that's really the only alignment indicative thing we've got. Gracks alignment would tell us why they lied (so it's relevant imo), and then both of them are going to say that they told the truth. Also they would need a reason to lie in before hand and that reason is hidden within the candidates alignments or the voters win conditions. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:37 iamperfection wrote: do you agree with my line of thinking? I do, even though I find it out of character for you that you are seeking validation  | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:45 iamperfection wrote: rofl he claimed not town we can do whatever we want to him. If i dont like how he answers we kill him. He actually claimed town shortly afterwards. Any evidence that he's actually not town instead of sloppy town? I am interested into the details of his role still. | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:00 kitaman27 wrote: Heh "there is no lynching" isn't exactly ambiguous... You saying your role conflicts with the OP? There are no conflicts I think. There is no lynching and there is no night killing. Everything in the game relies on events and player abilities. Each day lasts 48 hours and the night lasts 24 hours, but there may be abilities and events that change this | ||
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Only citizens of the respective nations may vote lol. My suggestion would be that anyone who is soviet/american just claims it for the election and to find their fellow citizens. To anticipate questions about my own nationality, I'll just say I'm neither American nor Soviet and hence can't vote. | ||
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And Palmar obviously is going to shape the game as it goes. | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:27 Onegu wrote: Fairly certain GlowingBear is scum btw. Agree that he seems off (displays zero aggression so far), you can go to town pile. | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:39 Tumblewood wrote: Schwarzenegger wasn't president. probably it goes nationality = country you can run for, country = election you can vote in I know he wasn't president lol. But he had political ambitions in a place he wasn't born in, so he certainly would have tried to run for it if he could. And I'm fairly sure there are roles who pretend to be American/soviet when running for pres but actually aren't. Remember that in order to run for office or vote you must be a citizen of America. Any fraud will be punished severely. I doubt that's just for flavour | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:45 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think this election is all that important in the grand scheme of things. Oooo but that's where you err. This game is going to be about nukes, wars and other disasters, and the elected folks will decide over the wars at the very least. | ||
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On August 16 2016 11:18 GlowingBear wrote: Why should I be aggressive in less than 6 hours from the start of a heavily themed game that offers way more things to think about other than other people's alignment? Trust me, USA citizens. Vote me and i won't let you down Sure the point is valid, but it's also valid that you show little interest in figuring others out, or the game in general, and an exceptional interest into getting elected. | ||
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On August 16 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote: That's not something you should expect anyone doing right now, Vivax. I didn't see anything alignment indicative. Did you? Is there any kind of information that you think I should be working on? (I think my english is getting worse. If there is something that doesn't make sense and needs redacting, please tell me) If you write this you are literally not reading. | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:45 Holyflare wrote: There's only one other person I'd vote that isn't me and they should (hopefully they're also town) know that I'm safe. Hope you're talking of superbia, seems like the safest candidate so far, but 1gu is nuking his ass after scumreading GB. | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:48 Superbia wrote: Vivax did you know that there are two elections? What nationality are you anyway? Sure I knew it. My nationality is sort of surprising, but it's neither soviet nor US. Uniting the 2 superpowers would be something that may help to fulfill my win con however, unless Palmar decides that it leads to shitty events. | ||
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On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote: Possible scumreads through page 12: GlowingBear - there's talk of mechanics, I'm looking for what he normally does as town, usually tries to fish for information and gets reads off the stuff he tries to bait through but so far no followup. will update as necessary. Kitaman - lots of talk about mechs so far but no reads. Also I recall from PYP Keirathi made an accurate read on him, him talking at people and not talking to people is mafia-indicative for him, and that's what I'm seeing so far with him. I like those. But I'm not a confident kitaman reader. GB however is either scum or 3p. He was just really disinterested into figuring things out and only kept pushing his election. | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:17 disformation wrote: not sure what you mean by early activity, but these are my reads atm. you're prolly just mafia for not having me as lock town and having Gb as null | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:23 iamperfection wrote: I hate this game already Yesterday it looked more promising with GB pinned down rite? | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:26 Damdred wrote: I'll do my best to catch up as the day goes, Sadly I am unable to save you as I do not have an anti-nuke. Did we all decide to claim nationality? I suggested it but everything I said apparently didn't get read. Pretty sure iamp feels the same way and has the urge to go afk. | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote: Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean. Out of the ppl running for the USA election he is def. the most scummiest. And I guess at least one scummer is trying to get that job. Seems like something you want to do out of thread pressure and not own volition. Ergo pretty scummy | ||
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Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents. Also, kita please. Here's the post that's replying directly to you. On August 16 2016 09:16 Vivax wrote: Gracks alignment would tell us why they lied (so it's relevant imo), and then both of them are going to say that they told the truth. Also they would need a reason to lie in before hand and that reason is hidden within the candidates alignments or the voters win conditions. | ||
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3p: TW Scummy: 1gu, GB, disfo, (kita) Likely town: Iampurrfection, superbia. Lock town: Koshi, HTS Rest still on the fence. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote: I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread. Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another. Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty. We already decided that 1gu lied? Seems like we don't need plans for people to do scummy shit, but gl getting 27 people to do what you want. I already have a hard time getting my posts read even by you when I reply to one of your posts. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:18 kitaman27 wrote: meh it's not like you can't do one without the other. If someone doesn't care about who gets elected or post an opinion about those 6-8 players in the threa d at any point, that says something about them in their own right. I do care who gets elected, which is why I support superbia, even though I can't vote. Basically I'll elect anyone who isn't a warmonger. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:19 Holyflare wrote: This guy got the butt hurt role or something. Right? | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:00 Dandel Ion wrote: not happy enough to do it by yourself though You haven't been pushed over nothing. You claimed there was nothing alignment indicative in the thread. Which isn't true cause I TR Koshi for his first post and there was also some other stuff going on. So if you think there is nothing alignment indicative, then you would debate people claiming that something is alignment indicative. But instead you only talked about this election. | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:04 Damdred wrote: Hts I think the most important thing to know is this. Town circle Damdred Hts Koshi Kita I am Scum lean Disf Scum Onegu That's where I'm at atm. HtS literally has the same scumreads as me, at least 3/4 and lots of her townreads as well so if you read her town for the information, why not me? | ||
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He can go to the trash can. Probably a third party bounty hunter or some shit stealing body parts, at least I read something like this somewhere. | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:36 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi's first post about low postibg isn't alignment indicative. I don't have to WIFOM it just because you think it is. What are the other things? You keep saying that there was information yet you fail to point that out. If you accuse me of doing nothing with the information that was dropped in thread, but can't point out where is that information, it just means you're suspicious of me for no reason. Which is scummy. Which makes me believe what was your intention. Which makes me believe you don't want me to win the elections. Which I can't help to associate you with grackaroni. WHo wins the elections is not in my power cause I can't vote in them and I'd rather find scum than finding one guy to push as pres all day. Fact of the matter was that there was a discussion going on about game mechanics, and in part alignments (not only about Koshi) and you didn't seem interested at all. Koshi's first post about low postibg isn't alignment indicative. I don't have to WIFOM it just because you think it is. And this part is exactly what bothers me. You weren't confrontational in the slightest. If this is really your opinion, you would fight me over it as town, not just shut up about it and keep pushing your election ignoring everything else. No, you don't have to particularly adress only my Koshi read, any other lean would have been fine too. Iamp asking for opinions on killing TW for example. You skipped that one as well. | ||
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Why are you screaming that this post is mafia? | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:54 GlowingBear wrote: I don't have to fight you when you have a townread on a post that I think is not alignment indicative. I would fight you if I had a scum read on Koshi. You know what I think, Vivax? I think you called me mafia for a flimsy reason and that you want it to be true. You want me to be Mafia, you want to paint me red instead of investigating my reasons and then coming to the conclusion that I'm town or Mafia. In other words, I'm saying that you decided that I am Mafia first, then searched for reasons to call me Mafia. No I just compared your D1 to Onegus mafia 2 where you did exactly the opposite and instead of talking about random stuff you came in swinging and pushing something. | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:06 GlowingBear wrote: Disformation's opening WAS scummy in that game. I pushed early because I saw an alignment indicative post. You also can't compare these two games for they are completely different. The elections mechanic changes my whole approach. Add to that that calling me Mafia for not doing something I did in ONE game as town is bad meta and you're experienced enough to know that Let's pretend you did actually read the game then. What are your reads besides me for obvious omgus reasons (real or fake). | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:16 Koshi wrote: Artanis is also likely town. He is making small reads and he actually remembers them and has a ranking system in his head. I think I can find 15 towns, 12 not towns pretty easily if I try. Disagree on Artanis, very little content, very little interest to be heard. | ||
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Thank you sir. I take pride in my screaming. | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:27 Lunaticman wrote: Vivax you have an abnormal amount of activity compared to last game. Care to explain? I just happen to be inconsistent sometimes. Pretty much depends on my mood and if the content inspires me. I'm in a good mood this game. True story. | ||
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Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle. | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote: What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability? There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked. | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Anyone else getting a red read from prplhz? I haven't played in like 3 years but this kinda feels like his scum meta. Superbia seems rather townie to me so yea, kinda odd he doesn't see the same and asks why an anti nuker would townread him. But odd from my perspective, so nothing I would use as argument to push him atm. | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote: But obviously mafia has some way to kill people they don't like. I don't think we're dealing with a conventional mafia. It's probably just going to be a bunch of nations/characters that have nasty objectives or particular nations/characters as enemies. | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:05 prplhz wrote: I think it's very reasonable to assume that mafia has some way to off people they don't like. I'm not saying we have Godfather+Goon+Roleblocker and 1KP, I'm just saying that it would be impossible to balance this unless scum has some way to kill people they don't like. They might just be nations with nukes or detrimental abilities whose goal is to destabilise the world, some other dude wants to destroy it completely. fuck knows. But it's going to be this way imo, otherwise how would everyone have their own individual wincons? | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That is pretty much Onegu's mafia meta to a T though. He does random shit then tries to get away with it. Oh so you are actually playing. So plans for today: Stop the nuke, invade Onegu, restore peace. | ||
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On August 17 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You're starting to remind me of JAT during Imperial, only I'm not scum this time so good for you  Are you town tho? Where did this rumor originate that you stole superbias legs btw? | ||
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On August 17 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote: Artanis may have entirely possesed me. Keep this in mind for future days. Apparently I'm losing control of my muscles I'm googling villains that do such a thing but so far with no results. Maybe he is some kind of evil doc.. not dr. evil though he doesn't sit in a wheelchair. | ||
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I think he's Stephen Hawking and you just traded condition with him. | ||
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Let's just hope you're not actuall D. Trump or Artanis will redirect the rocket from space to the middle east when the brain swap is completed. | ||
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On August 17 2016 06:47 prplhz wrote: Does this have something to do with the iPhone 4S with the cracked screen? The bidding should end with the day. Jeez prpl | ||
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On August 17 2016 06:49 prplhz wrote: yes, but before trying to buy the phone i'd like to know if its only power is that i mason with GlowingBear Jeez Vivax The extra power is that the KGB abducts you and establishes direct communication between you and Shape in the gulag. | ||
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Chezinu FecalFeast (especially weird cause his post seemed to contain knowledge of multiple nukes) Trfel stutters Rels Lunaticman Rels and lun did more than the rest but still feel like under the radar. | ||
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Or Chezinu bribed the office or something. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:42 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, got control of the NSA, but I had to choose between peace and chaos And I chose chaos. Ofc, you're scum. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:43 kitaman27 wrote: lol those results XD Makes sense to compile an american vote count for the sake of knowing what we are dealing with. GB and chez should be as transparent as possible with their powers.....assuming they received any. I now think you're scum too. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:44 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not I just like chaos And chaos is good! Yes for people who want to watch the world burn, aka scum, aka you. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + actually I'm fine where I am. | ||
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On August 17 2016 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote: Gb what do you think of HF he's calling you scum and doesn't even make your list post? Cause gb is scum and doesn't have the balls to omgus HF and get buried by his post artillery. This is a dreadful day for america, with GB at the top they made a lot of enemies. | ||
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On August 17 2016 10:32 iamperfection wrote: is there a reason your not being forthcoming with what your doing? And what happened to your style? I was looking forward to your good old pushing, all I see are half assed questions. You used to be really good at intimidating people while asking them. | ||
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On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote: Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here. Onegu prplhz Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Dandel Ion Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something. Honestly if you're actually town and legit and want to be effective and credible your list should look like this for now. the mafias are in here. GlowingBear | ||
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On August 17 2016 11:18 Kurumi wrote: Hi what's up A nuke is headed into your direction | ||
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On August 17 2016 19:26 prplhz wrote: is anybody opposed to nuking chez? Hmmm, you can do that? | ||
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On August 17 2016 19:32 prplhz wrote: okay is anybody opposed to nuking chez? if so, state your reasons. He actually used his powers for a peaceful 5 year plan. There are already infinitely better nuke targets (stutters, GB, FF, Kuru). This sort of people. Dunno why you have such a beef with Chez. Besides his votecount looking bad (emphasis on looking), he doesn't seem intent on doing evil like GB. | ||
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Presumed and confirmed KP owners so far: 1gu prpl iamp | ||
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On August 17 2016 19:56 Koshi wrote: iamp can kill people?  i dunno but he hinted at it at the beginning of the game when he actually looked somewhat townie | ||
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On August 17 2016 19:58 prplhz wrote: nothing bad, nothing particularly good either. if you thought somebody was scum, and you thought somebody else was afk, who would you kill? Shoot the afk, lynch the scummer is the maxim for vigs | ||
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On August 17 2016 20:14 Holyflare wrote: Why do people do catch up posts instead of reading and posting a summary? Are you alien or human? | ||
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Also keep in mind that using too many nukes will lead to global warming. | ||
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On August 17 2016 20:31 sicklucker wrote: artanis salty nice delurk | ||
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On August 17 2016 20:34 sicklucker wrote: I dont think you guys are very good at the big games. you cant make 1000 shit posts the posts you make have to mean something or no one will read them. so if thats lurking when I have nothing important to say thats a lurker This game is super tame compared to earlier standards. That's not an excuse for not playing it. And I'm actually glad we have a game bustling with life for once. | ||
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So. ##Live long and prosper: Prplhz ![[image loading]](http://css.tshirtonomy.com/wp-content/uploads/Trek-Yourself-T-Shirt-620x350.gif) | ||
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On August 17 2016 21:59 prplhz wrote: i am also absolutely not averse to letting people influence my actions. i sheep more than i go my own way. so it's just wrong to say i'm only considering Chezinu. Well I'm influencing your actions, I'm giving you more time to think about what to do. | ||
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Try launching your nuke son | ||
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Well if you don't you're anti town for pretending to have one | ||
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Kill GB, prplhz for playing scummy or any of the lurkers for being meh. | ||
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##Apply for USSR passport | ||
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On August 17 2016 23:53 GlowingBear wrote: Disformation, how do you know Shapelog was thrown in a Gulag? 1. he wasnt sure if he was a valid candidate when he applied. 2. havent heard of him since the announcement only scum wouldnt know this | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:01 GlowingBear wrote: Vivax, what's that QT you're in all about? Go ahead and call me mafia and GL cause you're going to be the only one doing that | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:06 GlowingBear wrote: What did I do that was anti-town? Getting the elections and establishing that any American can be killed today? Is that anti town to you? I'll come clean with you. I had to choose between powers. One was to nuke a terrorist, another was to put a bounty on a player, other was to turn USA in a dictatorship, the other one was to turn the rest of the day into a normal lynch game, and another was to suspend the laws of the U.S. I thought suspending the laws of US would be funnier and would lead to more people killing each other, which would grant us more information. That's the chaos I chose. What it my Mafia motivation behind choosing this? I could simply nuke anyone. You can claim that you could have chosen anything and just make the options up on the go, your word isn't worth much here. | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:07 GlowingBear wrote: Because it seems we have 5 different QTs in the game. It's kinda hard to believe we have 5 Mafia factions. I'm sorting things out I'm not in a qt but I would like to be, preferably with HF | ||
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On August 18 2016 01:26 kitaman27 wrote: Also the german dude may be scum based on my role, though it's not 100%. What are you, Aldo Rayne? | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:11 disformation wrote: i want to see 20 ppl drop dead tonight for some odd reason I think this is a townie thing to say | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:27 Holyflare wrote: Also why does vivax want a qt with me since when has he ever trusted me?? Dno I destested your play at first but over time you've just become another TL mafia brotha. And this game specifically I like the way you're heading, also we're both in space and need to get outta here, got a ride? | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: too hypertunneled to be scum too hypertunneled to be right Great way of taking a crap on my read without having one yourself. | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote: tbh I don't know what to make of prplhz this game. basically everything I know about him is secondhand because I've been doing a lot of skimming/skipping to catch up. I'm just going for the reads that come to me, and you're pretty obvious town but also super tunneled The fact my read doesn't change cause I see no reason to doesn't mean I'm tunneled. | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:54 prplhz wrote: @Vivax Who is your second biggest scum read? Next to me! Irrelevant question you're still dancing around the issue that you either fakeclaimed or are trying to hide that you have KP. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:00 prplhz wrote: It's relevant to me, I wanna know who to kill if not Chezinu and since you're town your opinion matters to me. So can you just tell me? I can't give you a better ranking, but if I exclude people I'd kill for policy: Iamp, GB, you are my tops. Recently Grack, then 1gu, FF, SL look the worst to me. Artanis made it off my suspects even tho he seems to be a jerk for baiting people into becoming paraplegics. Maybe 3p I dnu | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:33 Damdred wrote: Hrmmm that is interesting, Care to e plain yourself and what your goal was before I reveal it? Footage pls | ||
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Vivax
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On August 18 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote: Is it in your role pm? Because if it is, and it is not "dangerous" for you to tell, just share pls. Regarding wars, I am against any war. We just need surgical strikes against rogue individuals with consent of the nations. DickButt McDick seems just to be the man for the job. | ||
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