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On August 23 2016 03:53 sicklucker wrote:
ya I just read iamps filter. I kind of believe his role. while we do need to probably take him out at some point theres no reason to believe hes lying and he feels like a waste of kp at the moment. Also doubt hes an alien so I would have to waste my 1 nuke on him
I agree with this sentiment - on my end, I'm reading and re-reading Artanis, I am not sure he should be resolved today over GB/Chez/prplhz, the issue with IAMP is that he's openly opted to help scum, same issue with prplhz, regardless his alignment.
GB/Chez should be first priority. I also agree that whilst Rels has claimed third party and re-reading his filter he has been underwhelming and there hasn't been much else aside from piling on Skynx. Which is why I wouldn't help him with any objective unless he's more readable as town. Seriously though, look at his filter - 90% of it can come from either alignment. Which I hate.
GB/Chez evaded attacks which leads me to believe they are either vulnerable to either a certain type of attack or if they are kp-immune they have to be resolved via lynch.
So if Chez evaded a nuke, do not nuke him again, you have to use a different type of kp or we need to secure a lynch.
On the topic of IAMP, according to MafiaScum, lynchproof players are almost always one-shot, so we don't need to waste a lynch on IAMP again. I'd say kp him only if we have the others covered, but I don't think we have too much flying today.
Though the way you are thinking, makes me want to move you up. We still have the lurker pool of Stutters/FF/Kurumi/Shapelog that is also problematic. I really hope any hard investigative roles will have sorted them out sooner rather than later.
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Damdred/sicklucker - I believe Tumblewood also asked to kp GB, I would coordinate all that so you guys don't double stack.
On August 22 2016 14:17 Tumblewood wrote:
yo town, I am in the best position to kill GB. I can attack him, and if it fails it will probably come back at me (I am also black), but I can evade some attacks which probably includes my own and it seems that I have a secondary objective to evade an attack.
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On August 23 2016 04:19 disformation wrote:
Shapelog was already poisoned by Luna.
Dont waste more stuff on him.
Shit I forgot that. My mistake.
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On August 23 2016 04:20 disformation wrote:
Didn't someone say chez is more serious as scum?
Read his filter and it is far less funny/engaging than town!chez was in the star wars game.
So I agree with that point.
That was Koshi. And Chez has been anti-town (the nukes???) this game.
So I think last time pro-nuke Chez was nuked, he evaded the nuke, so if anyone is going to deliver kp, it needs to NOT be a nuke if he's nuke proof.
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On August 23 2016 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:
chez and GB are claiming scum in my mind so I want to go after them top priority
This.
The main question/problem is we need to change up how kp was delivered. If Damdred used explosives and NOT a nuke on GB, you COULD try a nuke on GB for example. But TW is making the argument only a certain type of player can nuke GB, so IDK about that, you have to sort that specific attribute out.
Chez evaded nukes, that one is simpler, deliver a non-nuke kp or outright secure a lynch and lynch him end of.
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On August 23 2016 04:25 disformation wrote:
Yes chez survived a kp and a nuke. Since he probably still is sitting in his bunker he probably is still nuke immune.
Do you remember what type of kp? Shit. Eh.....lemme try and find it.
So much shit to keep track of.
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On August 21 2016 04:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Also Also Chez surived my one shot town vigi attack. I don't know if we should allow him to live.
I'd rather take out some of the inactives tbh.
On August 21 2016 19:18 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 18:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 18:07 Lunaticman wrote:
Artanis and Chez I require you to reveal your roles.
Chez fired another nuke at me and I survived thanks to a broken tank which is now destroyed.
You have now killed one townie, and have tried to kill another town role.
If you dont do that you are both considered mafia or third party power roles and will be dealt with accordingly.
I really don't need your shit right now. Execute your little threats if you want but I've already said enough. I will treat this as a threat to world security, these two players should be killed, we should avoid using nukes as much as Possible. In further news I have activiated the KGB. Chez seems to be immune to nukes since he claimed he had access to a bunker. Can someone else take care of him during the day phase?Artanis should be nuked.
Bad news folks, I think we're going to have to outright lynch Chez otherwise it's gg.
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On August 23 2016 04:34 disformation wrote:
I don't think chez survies infinite nukes and infinite kp that would be ridiculous. I think he should be dead when hit with another kp. But I agree lynching him is more secure.
No.
This is why I am saying infinite, infinite types of (the same) kp.
On August 21 2016 07:16 Palmar wrote:Danerys Targaryen Nationality: Westeros Faction: Town Starting Location: Pentos Traits: Handsome, Female Abilities:- Dragon Queen (Active): You command dragons in battle. You can order your Dragon to attack any player, bathing him in flames and killing him.
- The Unburned(Passive): You are immune to most damage caused by heat and fire.
So my assumption for the time being is that Chez is immune to nukes and whatever type of kp Luna hauled at him.
If that was a classic vig shot then you could go with any kp that is not a vig shot or a nuke. I'm sure something has to kill Chez, but like you said, lynch would be best.
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On August 23 2016 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could roleblock chez during the day if that helps
This would greatly help.
(I am assuming roleblocking should affect those types of passives though.)
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Something tells me we didn't have enough for the supermajority vote, it was probably a penalty for that, automatic banishment (yes banisher is a role, but this is probably that same mechanic) but if this is the case...at least he can't be killed by mafia.
And Tumblewood, he wouldn't be able to speak under these conditions if the mechanic is what I'm speaking of.
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For those new to TL, banisher/banishment is when you are removed from the game, no one can perform checks on you, or kp you, it's like similar to jailkeeper but not quite.
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On August 23 2016 07:13 disformation wrote:
@kita
@luna
can anyone of you do stuff?
I'm aware of at least 2kp, possibly 3 of the people that claimed: sicklucker and Tumblewood.
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Well this fucking sucks. Most likely GG but I still wouldn't mind solving the game for postgrame cred.
Chez/GB/+2 atm.
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Like I'm said I'm pretty sure this is a massive penalty because enough people couldn't be arsed to vote but meh.
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On August 23 2016 07:24 prplhz wrote:
Koshi isn't even dead
he can appear just as fast as he disappeared
this is a Caller game
No idea what that means. I suggested banishment, that is the only conventional mechanic I know of that is closest to this.
I won't speak for others but I was not around here in the days of Caller. So I have no idea what you mean by "a Caller game".
Like are you suggesting "Caller" means bastard/troll/unpredictable roles? That's what I'm getting from context anyhow.
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On August 23 2016 07:28 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2016 07:25 Half the Sky wrote:On August 23 2016 07:24 prplhz wrote:
Koshi isn't even dead
he can appear just as fast as he disappeared
this is a Caller game No idea what that means. I suggested banishment, that is the only conventional mechanic I know of that is closest to this. I won't speak for others but I was not around here in the days of Caller. So I have no idea what you mean by "a Caller game". Like are you suggesting "Caller" means bastard/troll/unpredictable roles? That's what I'm getting from context anyhow. you signed up for a caller game without knowing what a caller game is you got callered the moment you signed up
I'm looking at the roster, and I know of at least 8 players who are more recent than I am (late 2014).
In other words, I'm not the only one who doesn't know what that means.
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Anyways, I'm out, Kita/Damdred, if you can clarify the exact definition of that (or whether I'm even close), I'd appreciate it.
Bis bald.
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##push Chezinu
Going to wait on the pull option.
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On August 23 2016 07:45 kitaman27 wrote:
This push/pull can actually be really good for us though.
We essentially have as many kp as we want, assuming we coordinate correctly.
One thing we have to be aware of is that mafia might have the ability to mess with the mechanics. For instance, in the 1st factory game the mafia team flipped the queue, killing the entire town in one cycle.
Chez, GB, and prpl are probably the three that we should definitely incinerate. iamp, Shape, Rels are also worth consideration since we can kill them off with no loss of town kp. In the future if we decide we need to kill them, we might have to waste a cycle where we only have a single lynch.
Okay, well I just blew my push before I saw this. Awesome.
I also agree with your list.
Also Shapelog was poisoned so he might already be dead regardless.
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On August 23 2016 07:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Heh you actually cost us 2 moves by moving chez to safety, but it's okay as long as nobody else wastes their vote
Well Kurumi pulled him back for whatever reason, I'm not sure where the two comes from but I'm guessing pulling others back would have moved him further up?
But yeah.
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