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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 15:53 GMT
#921
On August 16 2016 23:23 Vivax wrote:
That thing is clearly a third party planar dragon, seems like a job for lunatic who is probs Dr. Who


Good guess but wrong, I wish I had something cool like that.
Failure is not an option
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2016 15:54 GMT
#922
On August 17 2016 00:47 Lunaticman wrote:
I think the mafia are probably something like the invasion of the body snatchers and the earth mafia are working with them to subdue world.


So are you essentially calling Artanis mafia for stealing super's legs?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 15:54 GMT
#923
On August 16 2016 23:16 Superbia wrote:
Man that creature looks awesome.


I'm pretty sure that whoever catches is can gain an extra life or regeneration. It's what it is used for in science today. If you are in africa and town make sure you try to catch this!

Failure is not an option
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 16 2016 15:55 GMT
#924
On August 16 2016 19:49 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu (please do not lie to any of these questions or you are 100% anti town and will be killed)

1) Did you fire the nuke?
2) Why? You should be anti usa and you kill ussr? Really. Type many words about why you nuke Superbia so soon.
3) Do you have more nukes?
4) Are you willing to keep 1 of your nukes for the American President if he does anything anti town. We are going to organize a voting system for future days.
5) Are you willing to only use all your remaining nukes by democratic vote only?



Yes

He was pro american

Yes

I cannot fire at USA

Again cannot fire at usa.


Try TL Mafia!!!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 15:55 GMT
#925
I don't art is a bad man. But I'm not sure
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 15:57 GMT
#926
On August 17 2016 00:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:49 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu (please do not lie to any of these questions or you are 100% anti town and will be killed)

1) Did you fire the nuke?
2) Why? You should be anti usa and you kill ussr? Really. Type many words about why you nuke Superbia so soon.
3) Do you have more nukes?
4) Are you willing to keep 1 of your nukes for the American President if he does anything anti town. We are going to organize a voting system for future days.
5) Are you willing to only use all your remaining nukes by democratic vote only?



Yes

He was pro american

Yes

I cannot fire at USA

Again cannot fire at usa.




Why shoot town over mafia?
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 15:58 GMT
#927
I have a few minutes to breathe so I'll try and add a few things.

I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
The following candidates are running for the President of the United States
  • Grackaroni
  • Glowingbear
  • Tumblewood
  • Disformation
  • Holyflare

Voting is already underway!

The following candidates are running for General Secretary of the Communist Party
  • Chezinu
  • Superbia


HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff.

For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative.


On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning scum on onegu, GB, sicklucker.

Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy.

GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance.

SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked.

I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing.

Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure.


On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents.


I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread.

Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another.

Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty.


On August 16 2016 23:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret.


I think this post was his worst so far.
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote:
Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean.



It was apparent when I brought him up last but I also don't like Artanis this game.

Also disformation, I have no idea why you had been townreading Artanis. Checked the latter's filter and other than saying my read is bad, there's nothing else that points to him as towny in there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 15:58 GMT
#928
Like if you are town then shooting me NEVER directly helps your objective as I am Soviet
Minimal effort.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 15:59 GMT
#929
On August 17 2016 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:47 Lunaticman wrote:
I think the mafia are probably something like the invasion of the body snatchers and the earth mafia are working with them to subdue world.


So are you essentially calling Artanis mafia for stealing super's legs?


Didn't really think about that but that is just WIFIOMING.
Failure is not an option
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 15:59 GMT
#930
On August 17 2016 00:55 Superbia wrote:
I don't art is a bad man. But I'm not sure


Do you see anything towny in his filter? I don't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 16 2016 15:59 GMT
#931
On August 16 2016 19:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:

Soviet authorities caught a dirty foreigner in the act of trying to infiltrate their political cycle. However, due to the status and nature of the foreigner he was released immediately.



This may be interesting btw.



Told you I wasnt soviet
Try TL Mafia!!!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 16 2016 16:00 GMT
#932
(I am ignoring what he did mechanically, that could be either alignment.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 16 2016 16:00 GMT
#933
Hts looks town after one post
good times for all
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 16:01 GMT
#934
On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote:
I have a few minutes to breathe so I'll try and add a few things.

I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
The following candidates are running for the President of the United States
  • Grackaroni
  • Glowingbear
  • Tumblewood
  • Disformation
  • Holyflare

Voting is already underway!

The following candidates are running for General Secretary of the Communist Party
  • Chezinu
  • Superbia


HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff.

For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative.


On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning scum on onegu, GB, sicklucker.

Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy.

GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance.

SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked.

I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing.

Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure.


On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents.


I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread.

Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another.

Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty.


On August 16 2016 23:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret.


I think this post was his worst so far.
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote:
Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean.



It was apparent when I brought him up last but I also don't like Artanis this game.

Also disformation, I have no idea why you had been townreading Artanis. Checked the latter's filter and other than saying my read is bad, there's nothing else that points to him as towny in there.

I do not mention Artanis at all in my filter?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 16 2016 16:01 GMT
#935
if someone could summarize pages 22-45 that would be nice
good times for all
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 16:02 GMT
#936
On August 17 2016 01:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote:
I have a few minutes to breathe so I'll try and add a few things.

I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
The following candidates are running for the President of the United States
  • Grackaroni
  • Glowingbear
  • Tumblewood
  • Disformation
  • Holyflare

Voting is already underway!

The following candidates are running for General Secretary of the Communist Party
  • Chezinu
  • Superbia


HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff.

For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative.


On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning scum on onegu, GB, sicklucker.

Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy.

GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance.

SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked.

I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing.

Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure.


On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents.


I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread.

Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another.

Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty.


On August 16 2016 23:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret.


I think this post was his worst so far.
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote:
Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean.



It was apparent when I brought him up last but I also don't like Artanis this game.

Also disformation, I have no idea why you had been townreading Artanis. Checked the latter's filter and other than saying my read is bad, there's nothing else that points to him as towny in there.

I do not mention Artanis at all in my filter?

No you are right, I have a town lean somewhere on him. Don't remember what that was for.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 16:02 GMT
#937
Current reads:
ppl probably have alignments.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2016 16:02 GMT
#938
On August 17 2016 00:59 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 17 2016 00:47 Lunaticman wrote:
I think the mafia are probably something like the invasion of the body snatchers and the earth mafia are working with them to subdue world.


So are you essentially calling Artanis mafia for stealing super's legs?


Didn't really think about that but that is just WIFIOMING.


So you're speculating that there is a mafia faction from space that steals bodies, but then the guy who posts a picture of space and steals body parts was just a coincidence. Uhh.......?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
August 16 2016 16:06 GMT
#939
I'd actually be ok with voting Disfo too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 16:08 GMT
#940
On August 17 2016 01:02 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 01:01 disformation wrote:
On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote:
I have a few minutes to breathe so I'll try and add a few things.

I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2016 22:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
The following candidates are running for the President of the United States
  • Grackaroni
  • Glowingbear
  • Tumblewood
  • Disformation
  • Holyflare

Voting is already underway!

The following candidates are running for General Secretary of the Communist Party
  • Chezinu
  • Superbia


HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff.

For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative.


On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning scum on onegu, GB, sicklucker.

Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy.

GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance.

SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked.

I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing.

Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure.


On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents.


I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread.

Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another.

Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty.


On August 16 2016 23:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret.


I think this post was his worst so far.
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote:
Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean.



It was apparent when I brought him up last but I also don't like Artanis this game.

Also disformation, I have no idea why you had been townreading Artanis. Checked the latter's filter and other than saying my read is bad, there's nothing else that points to him as towny in there.

I do not mention Artanis at all in my filter?

No you are right, I have a town lean somewhere on him. Don't remember what that was for.

After thinking about it for a moment: It was probably for something he posted.
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