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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2016 22:22 GMT
#3721
On August 24 2016 07:20 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
Damdred is super super likely scum. Did nothing all deadline, which make sense for scum when 3 townies are about to be burned, contrary to like arta disfo or hts who showed care until the last minute. BUT he had a post just before deadline that showed he was super aware of what was happening in the thread
I think kita is scummy for kinda the same thing too


Why is it scummy to not be here again or be busy?

It is scummy to be fake afk. By not posting anything but feeling the need to type ##get behind cover or whatever just before deadline you are likely to have been fake afk
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 22:23 GMT
#3722
I think the host team is colour blind.
14 ppl left. Really need to find time to reread filters tomorrow.

Paranoia time.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 23 2016 22:24 GMT
#3723
On August 24 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
Damdred is super super likely scum. Did nothing all deadline, which make sense for scum when 3 townies are about to be burned, contrary to like arta disfo or hts who showed care until the last minute. BUT he had a post just before deadline that showed he was super aware of what was happening in the thread
I think kita is scummy for kinda the same thing too


Could Dam push/pull? I thought we agreed on those three people dying anyway. Him doing anything would be more scummy than anything else. I might be convinced otherwise though.
On the topic of changing stuff: HTS pulling Lunaticman.
What for? Who were you protecting?

Kita was coordinating the whole thing with disf and HTS and he said in advance he won't be around. Not a good read there.

Anyway, it's hard to talk about anything without knowing what we are going to be up to tomorrow. So let's do it like this: I volunteer my KP for a lynch if we don't get one. I don't like that, but I believe that many people (perhaps me included) won't be bothered to do anything.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 23 2016 22:30 GMT
#3724
I guess the scum is...
damdred
shape
sl
FF?
luna?
good times for all
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 23 2016 22:31 GMT
#3725
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Traces of Polonium were found on his body. He was clearly killed a long time ago, even if the radiation sickness only did him in now.

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Shapelog as Silvio Berlusconi has been killed




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Silvio Berlusconi
Nationality: European, Italian
Faction: Town
Starting Location: Europe
Traits: Rich
Abilities:
  • Mafia Ties: (active) You can make someone disappear. Once per game you can make a person of your choosing completely disappear with no trace (no flip).
  • Media Mogul: (passive) Good press is even better when you control it. You can either add a vote or remove a vote from you in any kind of election and voting.

Computer says mafia
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 23 2016 22:31 GMT
#3726
honestly not sure if I should just give up at this point. I thought those players may as well have been claiming scum and now each one flips town... I was kinda in denial reading it thinking this was bastard host mafia
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 23 2016 22:32 GMT
#3727
well never mind on shape anyway
sigh
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 23 2016 22:33 GMT
#3728
we should have listened to rels and moved like Hts, disfo, kita, ???, me off and maybe a couple others and left everyone else for dead
good times for all
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 22:36 GMT
#3729
I am relieved you're back Koshi, because you're exactly what we need right now.

Bear with me, I am refreshing and condensing my posts in my answers here.




MZ, have at it, you should be able to follow my filter but any questions, let me know. I know I'll be reading and re-reading some filters as well with the new information in mind. I really have nothing to be afraid of.

My biggest issue with prplhz is when you look at his points it was him calling people mafia for reasons that not mean necessarily being mafia and not thinking through the viewpoints from which our reads were coming from, He focused on the what and not the why and tried to see/ask for the why. I didn't even need a case, even a single post from our filters as to why he genuinely thought we (Kita/Koshi/myself he didn't trust) were mafia, and reading his filter, his read origins didn't make sense on several people and I know I pointed that out somewhere. It would have at the very least made me more readable to me.

He kept saying we weren't nightkilled without any basis for additional points as to why we're scummy. I had to sit there and ask myself is he playing derpy town, and I felt at times he was running a form of thread disruption. You should be able to see that in my tone in the back and forth with him this past cycle.




sicklucker had a few negative points about him, One thing DI called out was his buddying up to me when Kita was putting pressure on me regarding the bananas earlier in the game.




I noticed that Damdred and others who were kind of just letting us cruise into a 0/3 evening will also have to be looked at more closely. Rels - however much his play up to this point did not advance town much here - is on point with that, I know Fecalfeast all did the same thing but I also want to backtrack to day 1. Of course, unless I'm forgetting something in his filter, besides pushing sicklucker, I'm not sure what he has done. I am worried we could/have been giving him a free pass.

Also Rels to be fair, Kitaman actually engaged a few people, if you think he's legit scum, you will have to backtrack and see his play with all the new information day 1.




Kurumi, I had a hard scum read on Chez, and given his post about "whom should I push and pull" I feared he was lurking and going to take someone down with him. Luna was on the edge, and I feared literally a 2359 push from him. Take that as you will.




TBF I will have to re-evaluate everyone in different worlds - we're down to what, 14 players, (likely) 4 mafia, and 2 third parties, one of which we know is anti-town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 22:37 GMT
#3730
Shapelog was town too? Well FML. :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 23 2016 22:39 GMT
#3731
Prplhz has claimed killing two people, but he has no KP in his role. That means he had to have an item letting him kill people... Right?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 23 2016 22:45 GMT
#3732
Koshi Prime, Prince of Belgium, Savior of Mankind, God of his time and the times to come will talk tomorrow. I have a lot of information but nothing alignment binding. But it might be. I am also still getting stronger and therefore promised actual superpowers. But I have no clue what those are yet.

I am pretty sure town lost the game though. So unless these powers are really good, I don't see how we will win.


Things I learned during my captive by watching monitors, my own interpretation of it, so it isn't confirmed:
- Somebody ate the mudkip. (fefe is town and we need to find the person who ate it. Who could it be?)
- I know HTS her role and that she killed Grack. The zombie army was hers as well. I can't believe she is mafia but hey...
- Shape and Chez are part of the KGB. I initially thought the KGB was the mafia team. But chez flipped town. Lunatic also might be part of the KGB.


refreshed and saw Shape also flipped town... I am just going to see what my powers are. I don't know that much. Getting elected really didn't give me shit. I had to pick between 3 ways the earth would end.
1) nukes
2) ai overtake
3) meteor strike

I picked 2 because it looked the least fatal.




Superpowers better be really really good.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 23 2016 22:57 GMT
#3733
so far only one person I am able to kill has flipped. this suggests there is quite a few left or why would I even have this power?

I can kill koshi (non human duh) but obv I wont
rels 100%(I can kill toys dumbass you dont have to be an alien I can kill all non humans)

so im thinking alot of you fuckers are xenos. which makes sense since mafia is close to fucking having the majority
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
August 23 2016 22:58 GMT
#3734
we probably need to mass claim at least the name of are roles i dont care about powers.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 24 2016 06:26 GMT
#3735
I can't believe we didn't get a single mafia, at least they could have posted a list with their probable mafia names.

It is becoming super apparent that the town leaders are mafia. I just don't know which ones.

I fell asleep in bed so I missed the deadline.
Failure is not an option
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 24 2016 13:54 GMT
#3736
Reading through some of those flips, I'm kinda paranoid that they could be fake or altered. There are three different occasions where one of the players that flipped town have role descriptions that don't match the powers that they claimed. I'm not saying that all 5 players that flipped were mafia, but it's possible mafia may have had the ability to mess with the flips and possibly the alignments as a counter to us being able to lynch a bunch of people last cycle. I guess they might have been powers related to secondary objectives or something, but mine don't work that way.

-Artanis stole superbia's legs on day one using the ##help command. Superbia confirmed that it was a real power. It couldn't have been his thesis power since he wouldn't receive that until night 1. Not mentioned in role PM.

-GlowingBear received the NSA for getting elected. He said it was part of his role when I questioned him since the Patriot Act was his election reward. Not mentioned in role PM.

-prpl claimed two vig shots prior to dying. Not mentioned in role PM.

I'll try to re-read the filters of everyone tonight. I have a hard time believing HTS, disfo, or koshi are mafia even after a bunch of town deaths, but I'll try re-evaluating to see if there was something I overlooked. There are a couple players who have gone the entire game without even calling any player scum or using their role in any way that helps town, so those players are probably the most likely mafia candidates at this point.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 24 2016 16:07 GMT
#3737
QTs

Yes. Again. Cause it worked so good last time.
Remember my QT snippets? Look at this one again:
QT 2:

"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.

Not sketchy at all, right? XD"


"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"

"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.

I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."

Timeline:
  1. Ikea chase announced EoD1 #1998
  2. Trfel announced his candidacy for EU leadership early D2 #2068
  3. I get elected and gain access to the QT snippets second half of D2 #2379
  4. Trfel flips red at EoD2 #2780

At that time only scum could have known that Trfel will def. die to the fox squad!
Also:
On August 21 2016 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2016 08:41 disformation wrote:
EBWOP:
Please note, these QTs are not necessarily in the same order as the previous QTs.

QT 1:

"I can't believe you got away with shooting hf and nobody even cares."

"I can't believe they seriously think any of us have bananas XD"

"But yes global warming totally a government conspiracy."


Trfel is one of the few people that uses XD so I think he's likely in the QT 1 thing too. Problem there is that QT 2 has it as well.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2016 08:42 disformation wrote:
QT 2:

"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.

Not sketchy at all, right? XD"

"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"

"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.

I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."


Makes me wonder if QT 2 and QT 1 come from the same QT. Given it has at least 174 posts I would venture to say they might both be from the mafia QT. Do we know who was in QT 2?

So I think the first guy in QT2 has a pretty high chance of being Trfel himself.

Then D3 something very funny happened:
On August 22 2016 13:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Did kita tell you that we are in a QT? Because we are

On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.

We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.

GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that.

On August 23 2016 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw kita is 100% msfia


Let's take a look at that again:
On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.

We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.

GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that.

Kita you could have mentioned that Trfel was in there, too...
Because I really really don't think the first QT post is from either you, GB or HF (not to mention HF was pretty much dead at that time)... and I don't think either of you had any reason to try and pretend to be Trfel in there either.

So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel...
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 24 2016 16:12 GMT
#3738
On August 24 2016 22:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Reading through some of those flips, I'm kinda paranoid that they could be fake or altered. There are three different occasions where one of the players that flipped town have role descriptions that don't match the powers that they claimed. I'm not saying that all 5 players that flipped were mafia, but it's possible mafia may have had the ability to mess with the flips and possibly the alignments as a counter to us being able to lynch a bunch of people last cycle. I guess they might have been powers related to secondary objectives or something, but mine don't work that way.

-Artanis stole superbia's legs on day one using the ##help command. Superbia confirmed that it was a real power. It couldn't have been his thesis power since he wouldn't receive that until night 1. Not mentioned in role PM.

-GlowingBear received the NSA for getting elected. He said it was part of his role when I questioned him since the Patriot Act was his election reward. Not mentioned in role PM.

-prpl claimed two vig shots prior to dying. Not mentioned in role PM.

I'll try to re-read the filters of everyone tonight. I have a hard time believing HTS, disfo, or koshi are mafia even after a bunch of town deaths, but I'll try re-evaluating to see if there was something I overlooked. There are a couple players who have gone the entire game without even calling any player scum or using their role in any way that helps town, so those players are probably the most likely mafia candidates at this point.



I agree they probably have some janitor-esque role, but there is certainly no way it was that many of them. With how much of this is played behind the scenes, you can't really tell. I still have GBs berth birth certificate, and no one else has had items appear when they flip so it could be explained like that.

My role also has a post-death power that gets substantially weaker if it's mechanics are known, so I assume that would be left out of my flip if I die.

Although I'm hoping this is just a really bastardized game that has no scum because the world is supposed to end. That would be amazing.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 24 2016 16:23 GMT
#3739
World Peace!

[image loading]

Our heroes have secured a lasting peace in the world. At first normal life felt weird, but slowly they settled into the rhythm. World Leader Koshi and President Disformation jointly steered America into it's greatest era yet. The rest of the world was a smoldering uninhabitable ruin, plagued by straggling leaderless zombies and hostile survival based machines. And if neither of them got you, wild animals, the radiation, scorching heat or freezing cold would get you, for the climate was far more extreme than before.

But the United States remained the last holdout of humanity, a bastion of light in a dead world. It would be centuries before any other place on Earth would be inhabitable again. The World population never rose to pre-crises heights, but America prospered.

And so, years passed. In the end the great leaders of America passed on the torch to their successors and retired with their old friends and families to the only place they deserved.

[image loading]

Florida.



Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 24 2016 18:21 GMT
#3740
On August 25 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:
So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel...


lol disfo I'm not talking about trfel there and trfel was not in the QT with me.

The quote there is in reference to HolyFlare.

HolyFlare, GB, and I all share a secondary win condition to get ourselves elected.

HF died on day one so I made a joke about whether or not we could get him elected as a dead man.

Besides, it's obviously not the mafia QT because GB has already flipped.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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