EPT[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2
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On August 07 2016 22:43 Grackaroni wrote: I don't see seconds being recorded in people's time stamps. That might be a bit of an issue | ||
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On August 08 2016 04:53 sicklucker wrote: if an rng day 1 lynch is sub optimal its not by much. acualy statistically its just as good as a day one lynch. the only thing that sucks about it is you have less to go on in day 2. I really hope nobody was being serious about an rng lynch. rng lynching is always bad even if it statistically has about the same chance of lynching scum. Don't really like damdred getting so serious about this topic. | ||
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Explain pls. I don't see it at the moment. | ||
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On August 08 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: Damdred gives one post on the topic, is hated for taking a serious stance on something thats actually handled same poster takes a serious stance that mirrors damdred, hypocrite mode activated. My conclusion was more that nobody seriously considered rng lynching and people were just fucking around. That's also why I didn't like your response to the rng lynch, I just can't see how anybody would not be joking about rng lynches. | ||
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On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote: Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math. Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg? I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously. | ||
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On August 08 2016 06:43 Grackaroni wrote: No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz. ok, I'm out. | ||
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On August 08 2016 06:45 Damdred wrote: So now that you have proof that people are actually taking it seriously mderg does that change your stance? Not really. To me it didn't look serious at all before you posted your criticism of rng lynches. | ||
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On August 08 2016 06:57 Grackaroni wrote: Your entire filter has been talking about the random lynch. I'm pretty amazed you can be scumreading somebody for this. I'd say it's because basically my entire filter was about the random lynch that I find damdred's reaction suspicious. I was playing along with a "joke" and then I notice some guy who takes the topic seriously sounding like he is actually worried about an rng lynch happening. That didn't quite sit right with me. | ||
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On August 08 2016 07:19 disformation wrote: shouldnt you be voting me then? really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow. I'm not sure if you're being serious about this or not because my confidence in interpreting things like that has been shattered. | ||
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On August 08 2016 18:06 disformation wrote: good point i should look at his filter from 72h, too. imo both luna and grack have a pretty high chance of flipping scum at this point. Not sure I would like a luna lynch atm. So far he had a strange opening post and then disappeared. Looks much more like a lynch candidate, if we're clueless when the deadline comes near. Grack looks like a much more fun option. On August 08 2016 05:49 Grackaroni wrote: If HF sees something on a mental checklist of things scum do then of course he should push it. Why do you think he shouldn't? There's nothing redeeming in Lunatic's filter yet. I don't like this post for reasons that are difficult to explain. It's a bit of a mix of soft defending HF and stating the obvious that someone should push things they see as scummy. It's a bit beside the actual point. | ||
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On August 09 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh I could 100% lynch mderg That made me a bit sad. | ||
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On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote: I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post. I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour. I don't particularly like how vague this is on Damdred and GB. Is there anything particular about their posts or is it just about the amount of content which imo is a pretty useless point to make. | ||
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On August 09 2016 02:24 Shapelog wrote: You didn't play my Ritual Card. *ignores Kush, who was the person who suggested it, made a fucking equation, and picked the top wagon at the time for lynching* You know what, Fuck this, Just going to read sliently and not post every thought and make a grand post in 15 mins. I was fairly confident that you wouldn't make an equation like that, if you were being serious about random lynching. Maybe I was just wrong and people took this whole random lynch thing more seriously than I thought. | ||
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On August 09 2016 03:22 Shapelog wrote: I was talking about Kush's equation lol. I just posted a Gif. I was also talking about kush. I guess the "you" was a bit misleading. Seeing that kush hasn't done anything since then makes me a bit uncomfortable. | ||
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On August 09 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: I do not really like the looks of that vote count. prolly should try to take another look at kush. @mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch? I can see where you're coming from with the luna lynch. His filter is meh and I can see myself consolidating on him, if needed to make a lynch happen. Not much to say about grack, he has kind of shown a defeatist attitude and then disappeared. So my view of him hasn't really changed, still my preferred lynch. | ||
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On August 09 2016 05:10 Shapelog wrote: Also, What do you guys think about the stutter point I brought up? Too much wifom for my taste | ||
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You're right about the amount of content pointing more towards town and I guess he did push kush quite a lot without it looking like he'd be successful. Fuck it, you're right, he's not a good lynch with the amount of content he's produced. | ||
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On August 09 2016 05:47 disformation wrote: Right kush hasn't posted after rng'ing hsi vote on me? sticking to the rng vote like that seems more town... on the other hand he had the super shady exchange with grack... oh wait looking at kushs filter again he also tred luna for a post nearly everyone else hated? this one: He never bothered to explain why though I honestly don't think sticking to the rng points towards town. Really not liking kush's filter mostly because like half of it is about his "squirminess" | ||
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On August 09 2016 05:48 Lunaticman wrote: look at mderg*s voting pattern, he switches his vote way to many times without a reason. No? | ||
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On August 09 2016 06:07 Lunaticman wrote: I don't think so, if you are town I probably am fine with sacrificing myself if I can get a 1 for one 1 trade. Unless you are sure the other player is mafia the vote wont really yield any information. It is better to place it on who you actually believe to be mafia. For the next day. It is better to proc lame your innocence with words, or even go so far as to self vote. Showing that you do not fear death. Be careful, you're going into strong wifom territory here. | ||
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On August 09 2016 06:27 Holyflare wrote: you guys are so uncoordinated when I don't lead, it's cute Pls lead us sheep to enlightenment | ||
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Liking a kush lynch more than a GB lynch, so I'm going for that. | ||
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On August 09 2016 16:43 Lunaticman wrote: We could also lynch glowingbear just to see if mafia left one out of the train. Since we all know I'm town. It could be a good potshot. How do we all know you're town? I don't see what would make you town over anybody else? | ||
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On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though. I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna. @Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid. TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that. I don't think GB's unwillingness to change his reads points towards him being scum. It looked like he had a scumread on you for your opening and then didn't bother to play the game. That's fucking lazy and bad as either alignment. | ||
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On August 09 2016 21:48 Lunaticman wrote: Maybe start by reading who got lynched and why. What did you do about the lynch aside from saying something along the lines of I don't feel the kush lynch? I really hate people stating their apparent towniness when it just isn't there. | ||
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I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game. | ||
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On August 09 2016 22:13 Lunaticman wrote: you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid. Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town. | ||
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On August 09 2016 22:31 Lunaticman wrote: Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up. Honestly your not worth my time. I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more. | ||
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On August 09 2016 22:44 Lunaticman wrote: You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question. I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it. How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand? | ||
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On August 09 2016 23:03 Lunaticman wrote: Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again. "again" I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile. I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf) I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do. The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him. | ||
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On August 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote: For real I am actually without a doubt claiming cop. GlowingBear is mafia. I'm salty as fuck I didn't get jk'd btw. I'm claiming because vivax has flipped miller so the likelihood of a framer is 0% and 2 millers would be pretty bull shit. I'm thinking it's prob gf/rb/mafia I get counter claimed and you lynch me for 2 free mafia. Townies do not even thin abouy fake claiming to defend me. That makes things interesting... or not, I guess | ||
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On August 10 2016 10:46 Shapelog wrote: Thread: ![[image loading]](http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-09/24/19/enhanced/webdr11/anigif_enhanced-30344-1411600723-6.gif) I mean if he is blue. I honestly about to give up on the balance question. I guess the hf-damdred romance really is over | ||
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On August 10 2016 18:41 disformation wrote: Going to add the claims + the check, since I see currently see no reason to doubt them. So from my pov the VCA now looks like this: Final Vote Count - Day 1 nnn_thekushmountains (9): disformation (3): GlowingBear, nnn_thekushmountains, Grackaroni (1): GlowingBear (0): Lunaticman (0): Near EoD TW announced his plan of jumping whoever had the most votes. Mderg was one of the ppl to dislike the GB wagon: If he had switched to GB, this would have been 4 on GB and 4 on kush, creating a situation where a GB lynch had been way more probable. So he sits on the at the time super dead Luna wagon and votes kush, when it becomes super clear, that kush wil be the lynch. (despite his timing, he was kinda like the 8th vote, since it was kinda clear TW would switch, too, as per his rule). So GB+mderg+Stutters makes a tone of sense to me here. meh, as scum I would have jumped onto kush much earlier. It's almost always kind of suspicious to sit on a dead wagon in a town vs scum scenario. Sitting on the luna wagon would just increase the chance of a GB lynch while jumping onto kush would look a bit bad but would at least be taking a stance. Especially with some people announcing they would make sure a lynch is reached waiting for that long would have been suboptimal scum play. I still don't see what would have made GB a better lynch than kush or even vivax/stutters. He pretty much didn't do shit after his initial vote on you but that's really just null without some weird meta that I don't get. | ||
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On August 11 2016 12:19 Grackaroni wrote: Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame! But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like. This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote. On Kush not doing anything earlier: On Vivax/Stutters/GB after the lynch is in the top post, but it's the same "these afks would make good votes." What does me voting kush over GB for the same things you brought up earlier d1 have to do with you disappearing after your wagon died down? You were suspicious because you decided to do nothing after being pretty active at the start. (I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite because I've pretty much done jack shit d2 but I really don't have anything to add about the GB/sl/hf situation, that should be solved by the flip. You're misrepresenting my opinion about people not doing shit. Simply lurking the whole game puts you into the lynch pool but really doesn't tell much about the alignment. What did put GB over vivax/stutters d1? Maybe he tried to skate by a bit more but not much really. Kush did play a bit, made this rng lynch maths thing and then didn't do much. I'm not saying he was the perfect lynch, he wasn't my first choice but I thought he was a better lynch than GB who played for like 1 hour d1. | ||
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@Lunaticman: You still haven't explained to me why you're so obviously town | ||
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On August 12 2016 03:43 disformation wrote: mderg gets a bit of trouble for some meh reads on scott. accidently hammers himself. dunno looks tonewise similar to here. maybe a bit less active, maybe fewer reads? though somehow the scott thing looks similar to his reactions to the rng stuff this game. gonna call this inconclusive. Does anyone know about his meta? I think every time people tried to use any meta on me they ended up being wrong. | ||
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On August 12 2016 04:50 Shapelog wrote: I didn't catch the bold (first one) but I did noticed his reads were pretty generic rofl. The first point does not really counter my argument in any way. There's not really much I can do about my reads being "generic". I don't think they're THAT generic, though. | ||
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On August 12 2016 06:37 disformation wrote: Eh... well fair enough I guess. This has gotten me falsely scumread before. #selfmeta I kinda tend to forget/ignore how much time it takes to research this kind of stuff and format the post and shit. And I def. cant do that at work. Wish I was a student again and had the luxury to just go ham here. Well, I as a student still never find the time to do stuff like that because I almost always find some other way to waste time without realizing. | ||
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On August 12 2016 06:59 Holyflare wrote: phase 2 is now complete You're an ass, lol | ||
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On August 12 2016 06:59 Holyflare wrote: im not the cop | ||
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On August 13 2016 03:50 disformation wrote: correct. I arrived at the very same conclusion a few posts ago. I guess you did, yes | ||
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Shape: hf had him in his scumpile at the end of d1 but quickly changed him to a townread after that.Somewhat plausible partner for hf but not that likely. Stutters: Pretty much everything is possible. hf mentioned him like once before d2. After that everything is wifom. disfo: Pretty much only mentions disfo once. Soft defending him against early accusations against disfo's opening posts while pointing to luna's opening posts. Possible partner. grack: Showing a "positive" opinion of grack throughout d1/n1. Plausible partner for hf. (me): mentions me once before d2, saying he would be open to lynching me. You can judge that yourself. | ||
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I guess it's time to look at everbody else again... | ||
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D1 he was a bit waffly in his reads. Wasn't sure what stance to take about disfo's opening and put lots of people into either town lean or null in his reads post. The scumread on kush had decent reasoning behind it and was full of confidence but he kind of discredited himself in the disclaimer before the read. Also had tumble and luna as scumleans, with tumble the reasoning was a bit strange imo. N1 he puts some pressure on me calling my reads generic but never really follows that up with anything. Funnily enough updates his reads post with Vivax and GB going to his scumleans and hf to town, I'd personally call that pretty generic. D2 he believes both claims and posts lots of shitposts. Does some analysis but nothing too substancial. N2 engages in conversation with hf. Dismisses luna's case on disfo for reasons I agree with. After going through his filter he looks a bit worse than I initially thought. He didn't push his reads that much and while he did take a very clear stance on kush he also showed a clear lack of confidence in reading kush. Would possibly lynch. Going through his filter took much longer than expected and was a bit of a pain. Continuing with Stutters695 Strange start to the game with "Lynch all Stutters", I guess he was trying to be funny. Votes kush for his squirminess. Does some self meta and that's pretty much it. Would lynch despite it being a blind lynch. Going through the rest when I've got time. | ||
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On August 15 2016 07:09 Lunaticman wrote: I should have known mderg was mafia when he got super upset when I pressured him, got that one wrong. Would totally have nailed him irl though. The shape grac one was harder though. I still dont know how we were suppose to let you live HF. Even thought that last post was,so,obvious town. Im sorry. I don't think that's the point when you should have gotten me. That was 100% an act. | ||
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On August 15 2016 07:09 disformation wrote: some notes on myself: i think that was much better than my last two scum games. still made a bunch of errors:
Anyone else noticed some stuff I can/should improve upon? If you weren't as nervous about being scum, you would be really good at it. | ||
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