[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2 - Page 54

On August 12 2016 04:36 Shapelog wrote:
I am a Host of said game, and could prob. explain the meta on lunatic if you want. A course idk what they have for it, but there was a noticeable difference in his play.

On August 12 2016 02:58 disformation wrote:
YOU VOTED ME D1

On August 12 2016 04:39 disformation wrote:
Also:
when's phase 2.

Also:
stutters: you gonna do something or not? -.-

On August 11 2016 12:19 Grackaroni wrote:

Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame!

But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like.

This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote.


On Kush not doing anything earlier:

On Vivax/Stutters/GB after the lynch is in the top post, but it's the same "these afks would make good votes."

On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote:
I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).

If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.

And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.

On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote:
I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).

If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.

And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.

On August 12 2016 03:43 disformation wrote:
Stutters
3 pages filter by n1.
Look at his filter here. Look at his filter there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?user=Stutters695
wowzers. In nsm XXII. He is engaging ppl, asking questions. actually has a case, with quotes n shit...

On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote:
NSM XXII.
Starring:
Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3.
[...]
@activity:
from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.

On August 12 2016 04:52 Shapelog wrote:

That was actually something I was going to include in the meta discussion lol. the fact you were working 24 hours during that game.

[u] part, Onegu is prob bleaching his eyes over it.

On August 12 2016 04:54 disformation wrote:




Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are.
On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.

On August 12 2016 04:54 disformation wrote:




Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are.
On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.

On August 12 2016 04:55 Lunaticman wrote:


Did I play with Onegu? I have no recollection of being in a game with that nickname.

On August 12 2016 04:56 Stutters695 wrote:

Protip: I've played over 20 games. There are ways to catch me as scum, but activity is quite literally the worst one to pick.

On August 11 2016 16:53 Holyflare wrote:
Phase 2 going to be amazing.

On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote:


The case against Disinformation, who promptly lives up to his name as a mafia spreading lies and deceit:

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Disclamer: Still learning how to format stuff on this site.
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This very first post set of red flags for me, it actually implies that he has a power role. Since he never stated he was happy or unhappy with his own role, it is in all regards a Freudian slip after reading his own role pm. I wanted to save this for later but it feels like the right time to reveal it considering that all the blue roles have been claimed.
He then posts 4 posts in a row just WIFOIMNG which indicates that he is kinda chill about the whole game, of course he is because he knows who the mafia are.

Then this gem appears:



With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred. It also such an early post that is feels constructed in a way, taking a stance to look like town. But early enough you can just claim WIFOIMING later. Or at the very late game when Disinformation is lynched and GB is alive towncred. It is all followed by a "I was joking post". Obviously the mafia had a change of heart. It is actually a very clever way to create distance between the two players.

The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.

And now look at the conversation between the posts 287# - 303#. With the information now available Tumble our Jailer is positive either Grac or Dis are mafia. The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.

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Vote Count - Day 1

disformation (4): GlowingBear, nnn_thekushmountains, Grackaroni, Lunaticman
Grackaroni (4): Tumblewood, disformation, sicklucker, mderg, disformation
Lunaticman (1): Holyflare, disformation
nnn_thekushmountains (0): Grackaroni

Not voted (4): Shapelog, Stutters695, Vivax, Damdred

Currently no one is slated to be lynched.
There are 13 players presently alive and 7 are needed for the lynch.
This day ends in 0m 0s at 00:00 CEST (+02:00).

The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.

With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:

Shapelog/GB/Disinformation

It is also cute to look at the interactions between Shapelog/GB and Dis, they are really doing a good job separating their reads/communication etc. There is for example a long qoute on shapelog from Dis where he basically says nothing.


Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.

With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred.

On August 09 2016 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:


SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?

The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.

it makes no sense for Dis to choose you to be someone he pushes when GB (a team mate) cannot support due to what he said.

I mean yes, GB was pushing Dis. But he could still have casted sus. on you to where others picked it up on it. In fact, he also wanted to lynch HF, who was someone supporting the lunatic lynch.

On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote:
NSM XXII.
Starring:
Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3.
Did CC the vet eod D2 and got him lynched (the vet was super super inactive). So 1/4 of his filter is like trolling the town after that and post game and stuff.
Does not have a bad case + Show Spoiler + of tunnelvision.
Posts exactly 1 reads list. Exactly n1. Exactly what he did here.
Feels a lot more subdued in NSM XXII than here though.


Fun fact that is prolly NAI, but really cute:
In NSM XXII and here he instantly voted during the N1 phase.
+ Show Spoiler +
He didn't do that in his towngame in 72h from what I see.


@activity:
from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.

Again would love for grack and sl to chime in.