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On August 01 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ask the other ppl in this game lol. Normally I'm batshit insane but I'm being the super reasonable Moosy right now. Which means you're scum then lol | ||
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On August 01 2016 02:19 Skynx wrote: Not really. RB's attitude has hardly anything to do with his alignment. His replacement however can turn out to be a very townny or scummy individual, based on which we can decide on a lynch. What you're saying right now is basically a blind lynch. I get the point of that, agreed. I guess his "real-teamliquid-life" ban confirms that his bullshit was just bullshit and not pretended bullshit. | ||
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On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote: Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going. What is this? Activity is most of the time a good indicator for town. So why drop your claimed high activity level? Doesn't make sense especially since you explain yourself like a tryhard here. Are you scum and not able to emulate your town meta? | ||
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On August 01 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote: So while I was reading the thread a couple hours ago, I knew RB was town for two reasons: 1. When he got voted on, he kept trolling 2. The votes piled up wayy too quickly And I was right! So I'm going to look at who voted for him and when and I think we'll find mafia there. On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote: KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT Good stuff. Me town. Mderg probably town (I'm on page 14 thus far). Stutters no idea, and kelsier sounds fucked up, saying the game is terrible and so on. So Kelsier/Stutters. | ||
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On August 01 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: So I've read all four filters, and I think you have the best chance of flipping mafia. This is shit reasoning and you know it. And there's nothing else in your filter. So that's where my vote is going for now. What else do people want to discuss? You're right, shit reasoning, as I said above. Mistakes happen. I like you alot expect you're mistaking me for a scum guy. | ||
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On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote: [...] beentheredonethat: do something. Literally anything. Call someone scum. Call someone town. Ask a question of someone. Whatever. Also I'd like some thoughts about where you were coming from with that godawful call to lynch Race "before" a replacement. [...] Are my previous posts asking those questions? If there are specific questions open, let me know. | ||
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On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote: First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. This is a post that is absolutely empty and has no content at all. | ||
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On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote: Just something real quick and I will be back later. I really hated scotts entrance. Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me. Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you. Ill be back later. ##Vote: Scott I strongly disagree, scott's entrance was decent IMHO, starting to directly get into the spotlight and push people. The only thing that I can think of that could be suspicious is that his initial "people jumping on Race Bannon" post implies that Race Bannon is town. He cannot know that if he's town so he's either really really sure about it (which he cannot be) or he's scum. Wait. That's actually a good point and makes me withdraw my initial town stance on him. | ||
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On August 02 2016 02:38 scott31337 wrote: Just so you are aware, giving some one a town point is different than townreading the person. I didn't say I townread the guy - It's more of a mental note that we agreed on something, and he's not in my lynch pile for now. You're trying to change my words to fit your agenda. I know who I am, and I think you're trying to reach to get me mislynched. Wouldn't Lynch Today Lunaticman silentwarrior -Celestial- MoosyDoosy Stutters695 J Roc Grackaroni Null: KelsierSC Skynx Rels Would Lynch: Mderg beentheredonethat I need to get this pot roast started - I'll be back. Does your stance on me still hold as I have risen up in terms of activity? | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:11 beentheredonethat wrote: Are my previous posts asking those questions? If there are specific questions open, let me know. EBWOP: *answering | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:15 scott31337 wrote: So I see some townreads. Who do you want to lynch? Name at least two people and priority. You haven't swayed my mind any with your posts so far. Lunatic. There's no priority at this point, we're 18 pages in. Lunatics posts feel as if they have been enlarged artificially. Lots of words, not much content. I am not liking this. Priority 2 would be you, scott, since I feel like people have very ambivalent stances towards you. While I townread your entry initially, I find it highly suspicious that you are so sure that Race Bannon was... fuck, you're his replacement lol. Okay nevermind. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Lunatic | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:29 Stutters695 wrote: You have two pages of filter, but not a single lynch candidate. What are you making an effort towards, because it doesn't seem to be finding scum. Skimming grecks filter: he makes lots of questions but does not craw conclusions. He has voted now on Lunatic which I tend to like but given he asked so many questions thus far he should have strong stances on the guys he asked. | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:43 Skynx wrote: I mean btdt, you are by far the weakest link in the trio. You agree with the points made by Grack on Lunatic so you think he's thinking similarly to you since you know you're town. But then you agree with stutters very easily 5 mins later saying you dont like Grack's filter. You are not thinking like a town here really. You're jumping onto scotts scumread and the general thread sentiment that I am scum which is very easy to do at this point. You also disregard what I posted content-wise but only interpret it in a way that seemingly suits your scumread on me. I'm not sure how much sense this makes, especially since I see that you take back your "not tvtt" scenario upon one single post. :/ | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:45 Skynx wrote: Welp i take that back, seems like Grack agrees with your points. Yep. Which makes him scummy even more. Fine with both. | ||
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"Fine with both" means "Fine with Lunatic or Greck being the lynch." Elaborating: I agree with Skynx' posts on the "not tvtt" scenario. While he thinks its not so likely anymore (or at least that's how I interpret his post) I still think it holds up and you're the scum in the tvst scenario. Your posts are so lackluster in terms of actual content and I absolutely do not like that. Who are your top scum reads? Why? | ||
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On August 02 2016 04:01 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah exactly. How does voting the person you think is scum make me "scummy even more." You misunderstood me. It makes you more scum to follow my opinion. Not him more scum to scumread you. | ||
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Bringing up Lunatic to not let him fall under the radar. Same goes for my point about moosy, he is not at all playing to the town meta I got to know. I like the general direction were facing although there was a mislynch. Besides kelsier, everyone keeps dropping enough thoughts to get a grip on in the later game stages. | ||
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I like Celestial a lot although his posting volume has dropped from D1 into a more lazy D2 so far. Town. Kelsier might very well be lurky scum. He voted, left the thread. No contribution at all. But as others pointed out already, also low-hanging mislynch fruit, so yeh, he needs to step up. MoosyDoosy. He played so shitty in the last game we had as town, totally yolo, and while I have techincally nothing that makes me think he's scum, I still have that weird gut feeling of "he's 180 degree changed since last game". J Roc. I think I completely disregarded this guy so far. So here we go. + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2016 20:31 J Roc wrote: This post. Spaming the thread doesnt help town in anyway. If anything it shuts down discussion because people dont want to deal with him. Normally I dont like policy lynches day one but here I dont mind the vote going on Bannon. Your problem is that someone posting shouldnt be voted. But when that person is doing nothing constructive and just posting nonsense it does nothing. So you reason for voting Kelsier is bad. While I dont like the fact that he said be back in a few days I had no problem with his vote and dont like your reason for voting him when he is putting pressure on someone who frankly needs pressure put on him. I think this is a town indicative post. At this point he could easily go for RB but states very clearly why it isn't necessarily a good idea. What is interesting is that he, contrary to me, absolutely dislikes scott's entrance: + Show Spoiler + On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote: Just something real quick and I will be back later. I really hated scotts entrance. Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me. Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you. Ill be back later. ##Vote: Scott He even votes him. + Show Spoiler + On August 02 2016 10:17 J Roc wrote: The fact that he just fucked off and let the train happen without doing anything else is really suspicious also. And keeps it up. And up. On August 02 2016 10:32 J Roc wrote: Like seriousness. Nothing race bannon did was alignment indicative, nothing. So you can't say he was low hanging fruit like he was confirmed town. He can play like that as either alignment. And up. Aaand finally: On August 03 2016 18:52 J Roc wrote: I wont be around much today... ##Vote Scott. I said there were scum on the mderg wagon. A vigi claimed and a vt flipped. We lynch scott 100% here today. The interesting thing here is that we had three people coming in and being very pushy: Scott, Rels, Roc. Rels is confirmed town, and Roc is going nuts on Scott. But I feel this is town vs. town here. The whole "scott couldn't be so sure in obs that rb is town" argument is weak imho. Having "wrong" thoughts or at least "unsure" opinions can happen, it's a guessing game. Of course this is not clearing scott but as long as there won't be more coming about scott I will not join the wagon that Jroc is trying to establish. Can't continue now for RL reasons, sorry. Will try to drop more stuff. For the time being, I'll join the Lunatic train. Good stuff going on there. ##vote LunaticMan Still, JRoc comes on my town pile. | ||
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On August 04 2016 00:54 kitaman27 wrote: Fyi this vote won't be counted since it was cast before day two officially began. Is that alignment indicative? Lunatic, why did you vote Rels before day two began? | ||
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Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from. I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative. Makes sense though. I am still having headaches from MoosyDoosy, too. But yeah. This day should end with a Lunatic lynch. If Kelsier survives the night, He should be the lynch next day. We'll most likely loose Rels as uncced vig though so Kelsier surviving should be NAI... but yeah hes not contributing at all although he WAS in the thread. | ||
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On August 05 2016 02:55 Rels wrote: I don't get how scott goes from "in my town circle" to "in my Lunatic's likely partners". Thats why I said highly associative. If lunatic plus celestial are scum, I can see Scott scum. Last sentence of my post says "only reason to put him on that List", thought that makes my stance clear. | ||
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On August 05 2016 03:25 Rels wrote: Well who are you your two most liekly scums ? Cause it seemed like it was Lunatic + Celestial Lunatic. Celestial in my paranoid world. | ||
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On August 05 2016 03:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: But I'm super darn sure btdt flips scum. Where does that come from Oo | ||
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On August 05 2016 21:27 -Celestial- wrote: This pretty much outs you here. Its not so much anyone 'believed' so much as mechanically the best play there was to lynch KSC, then lynch Lunatic. KSC had done nothing all game. Lunatic's claim came off the back of actually doing stuff. Either way you're lynching one then the other if the first doesn't flip red. I already pointed out how super weird your last post was. The problem is that now town can't lynch me for the confirmation to kill you and probably scott, which is a huge pain. scott really has done absolutely nothing of value all game but you love the guy. Actually on reflection I'd maybe prefer a scott lynch first. But there's plenty of time to think on it because tomorrow we're lynching Lunatic so its at least like...five days before we lynch anyone else. Plenty of time to re-dive everyone. I am not exactly understanding why I am "outed" here. The best play would have been to lynch the obviously fake counter claim. Let me bring up the fact that I pushed Lunatic D1. Brought him up to people's attention N1. That I was the third to vote him and thus was the (imho) initial vote that got the wagon running. Keep in mind that my stance was that Kelsier should be today's lynch BEFORE the wagon had finally formed. You are following thread sentiment. You contributed nothing D2 except for a huge but redundant post on the already formed wagon which can very easily be used as a big excuse for you bussing a teammate. "Lunatic's claim came off the back of actually doing stuff". You are contradicting yourself here. You pointed out, as others did before you, that most of Lunatic's stuff was actually empty, half-hearted, and scum-indicative. Why do you throw away all those points that you brought up before and say now that "he was actually doing stuff"? What exactly was he doing besides claiming medic? Lunatic claimed medic for one purpose only: to avert his lynch and to get another blue role lynched. And you insist that he actually was doing something? That is a plain lie that strongly speaks for you being Lunatic's team member. As I pointed out before, you were reluctant to vote him ALTHOUGH you made a huge post on him. You should be the next lynch right after. This is your very first post about pretty much everyone (#281) : Lunaticman - Thing about lynching Grac because of a previous game is NAI as far as I'm concerned. Just salt. Don't particularly like the assumption of Race being town based on the spamming but honestly I don't think it even matters. It was just a massive disruption to the game all told. This line indicates to me that they're not on the mafia team together: So even if he has good reads we will not be able to take anything productive from it. Even though this is perfectly true it's not something I think you would say about a fellow mafia member so early on. You wouldn't want to undermine their credibility (even if Race was doing a more than good enough job doing that himself). This isn't to say that Lunatic or Race/scott isn't mafia, but a Lunatic/(Race/scott)/x team is unlikely in my eyes based on that post alone, which is a potentially useful bit of information going forward. I actually really like Lunatic's reply to Skynx: It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? Lunatic is town leaning a little from this in my eyes (unless we want to go tinfoil hat and assume they're both mafia and are playing a VERY aggressive game together). If they're both mafia then he doesn't do this so early because you're starting to put yourself too close to a teammate too early on before anyone is being townread and before you see where the game is going. If Lunatic is mafia and Skynx isn't then I think you be a bit more buddy-buddy about the "hey we agree on this!" thing. Questioning Grack about that kinda weird thing on Race is good. From there on seems to be asking genuinely useful probing questions. Trying to get a game going despite everything that's happened. All good stuff. The first thing you do is to paint a "Lunatic and RB do not have the same alignment" picture. You do not follow up on this, instead you directly start to build a town read about Lunatic. He also is the very first person for you to get into. Who are the most present people in your mind when you're scum and it's D1? Right, your teammates, because you know their alignments and you talk to them in QT. So why not start with that guy, it doesn't even have to be a concious decision. Celestial is creating a town read on Lunatic for reasons that are very vague and feel highly constructed. This is the first indicator that those guys are in the same team. Another thing is: you absolutely dislike Scott and don't like my townread on him. How does that go together with scott's harsh thread entry that was basically consisting of pushing me? If Scott is scum (and I am scum in your world), how does it makes sense that he is so pushy D1 on me although there is literally no need to do so? On August 01 2016 12:45 -Celestial- wrote: Still not managed to get to bed yet and its approaching 5. I'm going to just drop off at my desk. But I wanted to reply here anyway. Thank you, but be careful. Make sure you're reading through what I've said and check that my train of thought makes sense to you before you townread me for it. I won't say its 'easy' (because that damn thing took between one to two hours to write) but its a very 'simple' thing for a scum to simply write a huge post and then hide behind it. Trust nobody until you've decided they're town from what they've actually said, not just from posting a lot of stuff that reads nicely. I'll be asking myself some very searching questions later on, believe me. (Kudos to whoever gets that reference.) Here's a useful summary of bussing: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bussing I think you might be thinking of bandwagonning? Fair enough, I thought it might be something like that. More interaction with Lunatic. But it's only about explaining Bussing. It's of course very good to remind a player to "carefully read into me, because I could be lying". This is a very interesting interaction because it is seemingly helping each other out while in reality, it is a process of putting Lunatic in a position as a full newbie. That way, town will of course be hesistant to lynch him, and will read his posts with a mindset of "that guy is new, he might be bad not scum". That feels exactly like a move that a more experienced player would make. Celestial is a more experienced player. Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? What is this question. The answer is in the rules. Why is the interest in Rels' consequences so high? Easily explained. Celestial as an experienced mafia player knows that Rels is one of the best players in this game and knows that he is town. So he tries to find out if he's getting modkilled so they don't have to waste a kill and can plan accordingly. I don't see any purpose in this question besides that one. Scum doesn't know if Rels is going to get MK'ed at day end or night end. Hm. I'm not too convinced of that theory by myself but still, I'm letting it here for you guys to discuss. On August 02 2016 04:39 -Celestial- wrote: Honestly...sod it. I don't like silent's posts in the thread so far and he's nowhere to be seen. I don't want to get in trouble for not voting at all so for now (and in case I don't get time to come back on later) I'm parking my vote there. If nothing else it dials up the pressure on him to actually post something more. ##Vote: silentwarrior On August 02 2016 04:40 -Celestial- wrote: Please note I am very open to changing here. I just got nothing better right now and I'll be damned if I'll get in trouble for not voting when its mandatory... "Hello guys, I cast my vote but I am fine to not vote my scum read so yeah go ahead". This is a very weak statement. If you are convinced your vote is scum, you vote. If someone else comes with a better/stronger case that you like more, you vote someone else. But saying "Hey, I don't like him, here's my vote but I only do it because I must" is scum indicative. Any townie can wait until the very deadline to cast his vote. The vote can be used to pressure people. But this is a very open "hey, just parking it here, don't worry, no harsh feelings". Makes no sense at all, and Celestial appeared very reasonable in his long posts, so why suddenly change that behaviour? Afraid of no townie wagon forming? On August 02 2016 04:43 -Celestial- wrote: Also at this rate any VCA is going to be utterly useless...especially if the lynch ends up being scott. -_- What a weird post. You repeatedly scumleaned/read scott. But you're not fine to have a scott lynch because "VCA will be useless"? Can you please show me your VCA? Because you imply that a lynch that is not scott would make up for decent VCA. Also note how at this point, Lunatic has completely dropped under the radar for Celestial, he's not commiting to any more posts regarding scum lunatic. On August 02 2016 06:35 -Celestial- wrote: I'm kinda open to being convinced on mderg honestly. I don't like the silent vote as much as I did before his last post (though his silence through this game has been deafening). And if I shift I think that switches the vote off scott, who I really don't want to see lynched D1. And I don't think its likely other trains will get going at this point unless someone picks up on something really blatant. Can anyone provide a concise, clear, convincing argument to switch right now? And boom, joining the mislynch wagon and abandoning the silent vote. Of course, he knows it's town, so he can be "kinda open to being convinced". This part of the sentence is highly interesting. It implies that the decision to lynch mderg is not his own but a decision that someone else made him to take. Also, how do you not want scott to be lynched if you keep saying . On August 02 2016 09:48 -Celestial- wrote: BTW: Almost definitely at least one mafia in there as far as I'm concerned. I'll have to look through the votes and vote switches properly. 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Next: I have pushed Lunatic since day 1, had Moosy under suspicion and raised that multiple times for his meta change, and I got pushed by Moosy over D2. Whoever is now going to lynch me should be the next person to hang. We have multiple mislynches now so I guess it's okay if I take one for the team but it's not exactly a situation I desire to be in. I think we all should re-evaluate every single person on the list: silentwarrior beentheredonethat scott J Roc Skynx Celestial Silentwarrior I feel like silent has the lowest chance of everyone excluding me to not flip red. While his initial scumread was wrong (Stutters), I could see where he came from and he established a good case around his initial vote. What makes him more town in my eyes is that he not only explained his vote but also gave insights on how he established reads on other players, including celestial, me, and kelsier. While I interpreted RB spam as scum indicative (which was a huge mistake on my part, as I admitted D1), he basically made the same mistake but in the other direction, townreading RB/Scott - but he also admitted that he was wrong. Also, there's his townread on scott: On scott however I think he is town. His entry post to me seems very town-like. He immedietly accuses 4 people of scum. Which is basically the same reasoning that I had for townreading scott all game. The bad thing is that scott stopped participating in this game basically. That can be lurky scum, or disappointment in the game's general direction. The latter should be NAI and can be felt as any alignment. I do not know enough about scott's meta to be able to judge him but as of now, I expect him to come back to the game and step up again. Back to silent, I'll come to scott later. Silentwarrior does not only cast his vote but he also continues to ask questions towards Stutters which I really like: + Show Spoiler + On August 02 2016 07:02 silentwarrior wrote: How was your vote on me a policy lynch? For that matter, how am I supposed to know it's a policy lynch when you write no arguments or anything to back up your vote? Celestial posted arguments and thouthts about me before voting, even if I disagree about them. On August 02 2016 07:05 silentwarrior wrote: Rels, what's your take on stutters and my case about him? I read yours on mderg and agree with most of what you wrote, but Stutter's is so blatantly mafia. Also, can others also comment on it? I will not spoiler this post: On August 02 2016 07:22 silentwarrior wrote: That's not the thing that sticks out about the vote. It's that he dosen't mention me at all, then without much explanation votes for me, quoted your vote only 4 minutes after you posted it. Didn't say anything at all himself. Also, you can't still think it's still undeserved shade at KSC? He was in thread not too long ago and still didn't contribute. I'd say some of that shade is pretty deserved by now. Celestial does not agree with the read and also scumleans Silent at this point. However the discussion that is going on feels absolutely genuine. What I do not understand though is the sudden switch (it comes directly after without any explanation) to mderg: On August 02 2016 07:40 silentwarrior wrote: Rules say most recent, so he was set from before his change. I think im the one that's set now. Im gonna vote mderg for that reason. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mderg Which is a shennanie. I'm not too sure if I can draw any alignment from this vote and silent might be scum switching between town - but I don't really believe it. However this is the only thing that sticks out from his rather straight thought process and thread evaluation so it's definitely worth to be mentioned. That's D1 so far. D2 starts with a Case on Lunatic which, among my pressure from D1, is one of the reasons to start a Lunatic train. Which (to me) basically clears Silent; On August 03 2016 20:07 silentwarrior wrote: No, only lynch for me is lunatic. Also, claiming vig is the best thing for town right now. We get a confirmed town and we also might have a doctor, who will most likely protect Rels now. This is a very good position for town right now. Then the Kelsier claim situation happens and I think this one here: On August 05 2016 07:12 silentwarrior wrote: Is KelsierSC going to recieve any punishment for his complete lack of activity and general apathy towards this game? I feel it is only right that he does, he displayed zero interest in this game and has seriosly but a damper in it. Is basically one big yell of "Kelsier is ruining us the fucking game, punish him for that". On August 06 2016 07:59 silentwarrior wrote: Ok, so the main reason I post this is something some of you may not like, and will probably call me tinfoil for saying it. But it needs to be said. First, let me say that I have had suspicoin of this since N1, but have kept silent about it since I was more focused on lunatic at the time and couldn't afford to derail that. I have 3 people in my scumlist in descending order of "scuminess". Lunatic, Moosy and Celestial. The thing that drew me to celestial at first was the fact that he survived N1. It was so strange to be honest. If you compare Stutters and Celestial, he was the obvious person to kill, not stutters. The only reason I can see that stutters was killed was to cast suspicon on the people who were against him. This was primarily me and grack as well I think. The plan obviosly failed when Grac was killed as well, but before that mafia set things up in preparation for stutters death. First, Moosy along with Celestial pulled up that bullshit VCA. Moosy seems like he would go for that sort of thing, but celestial suprised me by actually saying he liked it. What's more, he completely ignored the explanations we had that supported our views, even when it was stutters saying them. Celestial has made the biggest posts with the most analysis, but he barely even bothered to even think about the voting pattern more than a passing "eh, seems alright". He also had a strong townlean on lunatic for no apparent reason. He did a filterdive of lunatic same time as me, and mentions some the things we now know makes lunatic scum. But he not only ignores some of those, he even makes excuses for them. Worse, he misses some of the huge red flags in lunatics filter, even though it was probably the shortest filter with the most scummy things. And then, when me and 3 others vote for lunatic he comes in and changes his mind? I'm sorry, I just don't believe that. We know mafia tried to bus Lunatic when it looked like he was dying. Also, in the same big post as quted above, he has the now confirmed townies (Rels, Grack, Kelsier, Silent) as mafia reads, while the ones that are more questionable much higher up. The only townie he has in town is stutters. But thing is, mafia knew he was gonna die that night, so ofcourse he was gonna be high on the list. I know most of you all see him as town, and it's no doubt that he has posted the most. But I just want to make sure we consider everything. I might be wrong on celestial, and I certainly won't lynch him before Moosy and Lunatic, but I would definetly consider it. And then, this. I highly appreciate this post. I had my own tinfoil thoughts as I said in my previous posts about the pattern of scott/lunatic that Celestial is posting. I think this post is very well thought out and summarizes another aspect of my paranoia about Celestial's alignment (note, solely based on activity level, I'd easily townread him!). I'll stop here. Silent is locked town for me. | ||
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The most active player with the biggest filter with the hugest cases. That should be an easy townread. But I said I want to re-evaluate. My initial stance (or, my most up to date read) : On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote: Having read your post, I find it highly interesting that you get me into a connection with Lunatic, given that I voted him D1 and didnt stop to bring him up to people's conciousness again and again. Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from. I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative. Makes sense though. I am still having headaches from MoosyDoosy, too. But yeah. This day should end with a Lunatic lynch. If Kelsier survives the night, He should be the lynch next day. We'll most likely loose Rels as uncced vig though so Kelsier surviving should be NAI... but yeah hes not contributing at all although he WAS in the thread. Then, more of it: On August 05 2016 21:59 beentheredonethat wrote: I am not exactly understanding why I am "outed" here. The best play would have been to lynch the obviously fake counter claim. Let me bring up the fact that I pushed Lunatic D1. Brought him up to people's attention N1. That I was the third to vote him and thus was the (imho) initial vote that got the wagon running. Keep in mind that my stance was that Kelsier should be today's lynch BEFORE the wagon had finally formed. You are following thread sentiment. You contributed nothing D2 except for a huge but redundant post on the already formed wagon which can very easily be used as a big excuse for you bussing a teammate. "Lunatic's claim came off the back of actually doing stuff". You are contradicting yourself here. You pointed out, as others did before you, that most of Lunatic's stuff was actually empty, half-hearted, and scum-indicative. Why do you throw away all those points that you brought up before and say now that "he was actually doing stuff"? What exactly was he doing besides claiming medic? Lunatic claimed medic for one purpose only: to avert his lynch and to get another blue role lynched. And you insist that he actually was doing something? That is a plain lie that strongly speaks for you being Lunatic's team member. As I pointed out before, you were reluctant to vote him ALTHOUGH you made a huge post on him. You should be the next lynch right after. This is your very first post about pretty much everyone (#281) : The first thing you do is to paint a "Lunatic and RB do not have the same alignment" picture. You do not follow up on this, instead you directly start to build a town read about Lunatic. He also is the very first person for you to get into. Who are the most present people in your mind when you're scum and it's D1? Right, your teammates, because you know their alignments and you talk to them in QT. So why not start with that guy, it doesn't even have to be a concious decision. Celestial is creating a town read on Lunatic for reasons that are very vague and feel highly constructed. This is the first indicator that those guys are in the same team. Another thing is: you absolutely dislike Scott and don't like my townread on him. How does that go together with scott's harsh thread entry that was basically consisting of pushing me? If Scott is scum (and I am scum in your world), how does it makes sense that he is so pushy D1 on me although there is literally no need to do so? More interaction with Lunatic. But it's only about explaining Bussing. It's of course very good to remind a player to "carefully read into me, because I could be lying". This is a very interesting interaction because it is seemingly helping each other out while in reality, it is a process of putting Lunatic in a position as a full newbie. That way, town will of course be hesistant to lynch him, and will read his posts with a mindset of "that guy is new, he might be bad not scum". That feels exactly like a move that a more experienced player would make. Celestial is a more experienced player. What is this question. The answer is in the rules. Why is the interest in Rels' consequences so high? Easily explained. Celestial as an experienced mafia player knows that Rels is one of the best players in this game and knows that he is town. So he tries to find out if he's getting modkilled so they don't have to waste a kill and can plan accordingly. I don't see any purpose in this question besides that one. Scum doesn't know if Rels is going to get MK'ed at day end or night end. Hm. I'm not too convinced of that theory by myself but still, I'm letting it here for you guys to discuss. "Hello guys, I cast my vote but I am fine to not vote my scum read so yeah go ahead". This is a very weak statement. If you are convinced your vote is scum, you vote. If someone else comes with a better/stronger case that you like more, you vote someone else. But saying "Hey, I don't like him, here's my vote but I only do it because I must" is scum indicative. Any townie can wait until the very deadline to cast his vote. The vote can be used to pressure people. But this is a very open "hey, just parking it here, don't worry, no harsh feelings". Makes no sense at all, and Celestial appeared very reasonable in his long posts, so why suddenly change that behaviour? Afraid of no townie wagon forming? What a weird post. You repeatedly scumleaned/read scott. But you're not fine to have a scott lynch because "VCA will be useless"? Can you please show me your VCA? Because you imply that a lynch that is not scott would make up for decent VCA. Also note how at this point, Lunatic has completely dropped under the radar for Celestial, he's not commiting to any more posts regarding scum lunatic. And boom, joining the mislynch wagon and abandoning the silent vote. Of course, he knows it's town, so he can be "kinda open to being convinced". This part of the sentence is highly interesting. It implies that the decision to lynch mderg is not his own but a decision that someone else made him to take. Also, how do you not want scott to be lynched if you keep saying . What happened to this? Huh? Having dived his 9 page filter, there's just too much to not start again and again thinking "this guy's town". I tried to find some words and picked up some stuff from Celestial's filter but the truth is that I really feel like my scum lean on Celestial has lost a lot of substance. While I don't think I'm wrong on what I am saying, my findings, as mentioned in the two posts I quoted, are highly situational and could as well apply to a town as a scum player. Long story short, if Celestial is indeed scum (and I am still somewhat paranoid about it), he deserves to live through three or four more mislynches and win the game. I am not going to lynch the most active player in the game, it just feels like a bad decision. Still, I would like you guys to read through the posts I quoted from myself and drop opinions about them! | ||
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Here's what he does in his 2 (Oo... didn't realize that, felt he was way more active) page filter: hard scumreads me for my "Race Bannon" agrees with silentwarriors early post on Kelsier's inactivity and that it's scum indicative gives "town point" to J Roc for also finding my "Race Bannon" quotes Celestial's huge read post to add two lines to it saying "Btdt is the worst of those that voted for RB" nulls MoosyDoosy after being explicitely asked for a read of him - by MoosyDoosy calls out mderg for not liking scott's posts, asks him to elaborate adds lunaticman and moosy to his "would not lynch" list for no considerate reason has a "null" list that is not featuring moosy although he explicitely said that Moosy is a null for him, he town lists him his "would lynch" list has two townies: me and mderg on it and nothing else J Roc is on his town list because of "the posts I did about him" while it is only one post where he talks about J Roc, and that post is the "BTDT on RB is scummy", follows up when he's asked about it and actually likes that J Roc votes Scott. Then, he settles on mderg, asks others to drop reads on him, keeps thread focused on mderg. On August 03 2016 14:08 scott31337 wrote: We got into a car accident today buying another vehicle (fucking my luck right?  We're out of the hospital now but my brain isn't playing mafia tonight - it checked out a few hours ago. I took the day off work tomorrow so I'll read over then and give my thoughts. And this is pretty much where it ends. I will consider scott as a lynch candidate for the next days but I'm fairly certain we should give him the possibility to come back and play the game when this night is over. Shouldn't be next day's lynch (but don't nail me on that) but if nothing changes, I prefer to not have him in MYLO/LYLO or whatever it is. | ||
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His day 1 posting pattern is really weird. Lot's of fluff ("I am blue"), early, unreasoned vote on Stutters ("Happy Birthday")... On July 31 2016 17:00 J Roc wrote: RIP. Thought first post meant you were confirmed town on this site. Guess thats only true if you get a role PM. But he drops that style at the point where silentwarrior comes up with his Kelsier read. On July 31 2016 20:31 J Roc wrote: This post. Spaming the thread doesnt help town in anyway. If anything it shuts down discussion because people dont want to deal with him. Normally I dont like policy lynches day one but here I dont mind the vote going on Bannon. Your problem is that someone posting shouldnt be voted. But when that person is doing nothing constructive and just posting nonsense it does nothing. So you reason for voting Kelsier is bad. While I dont like the fact that he said be back in a few days I had no problem with his vote and dont like your reason for voting him when he is putting pressure on someone who frankly needs pressure put on him. I think anyone would agree with Silentwarrior there but what I find highly interesting is that J Roc completely disagrees with what Silent said about Kelsier. Why? I think silent's point there are really good. The thing is however that kelsier flipped town so there's no way that his is mafia soft defending an inactive teammate. But what I can see there is that J Roc is defending a vote on RB. RB would've been an easy mislynch for scum had he continued his spam. Next thing that is weird is the vote on scott: On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote: Just something real quick and I will be back later. I really hated scotts entrance. Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me. Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you. Ill be back later. ##Vote: Scott He says that RB's actions were null. He points out my post about RB, scumreading me for that post. Scott does the same, which implies that scott agrees with Roc at this point. But he completely disregards that. Instead he votes scott (who still has a weak position at this point because he comes off of the RB replacement and IMHO could've been an easy mislynch if mafia dared to push him) because he thinks that an observation from OUTSIDE THE GAME is alignment indicative? That does not make any sense to me, at all, and feels like scum seemingly having found a pain point that can be pushed. I am absolutely not liking that post. Talking about a scott mislynch, it looks like that's how J Roc perceived it indeed: On August 02 2016 08:36 J Roc wrote: Wasn't very productive and we let Scott make a few posts then fuck off while the wagon moved off of him I completely disagree with the scum read of Scott. Completely. The reasoning behind this read is simply bad and highly constructed. Yet he still stresses it, without any follow up, without bringing scott back to the thread's attention. Instead, mderg defense: On August 02 2016 06:33 J Roc wrote: I'm not lynching mderg. I agree with a lot of his reads. At this point, many people want to lynch mderg. This can easily be scum, trying to gain town cred for voting outside the wagon. On August 02 2016 08:34 J Roc wrote: Was against a mderg lynch the whole time "Look, I knew it." His following reads during the night phase say Rels and Scott are scum, while he does not react to Moosy although being explicitely asked about Moosy - by Moosy. Also he engages in discussion with Moosy and starts agreeing on Moosy's vote analysis bullshit. While they had opposite opinions before, J Roc abandons his scott push at this point and follows Moosy. Why? But yeah, after that short excursion he goes back to scott. Then he leaves completely: On August 07 2016 06:53 J Roc wrote: Have free time this evening after dota battle cup. Will do stuff I promise That never happened. Given that J Roc went for scott since D1 and never really stopped, I think he's pushing an agenda. It actually makes sense, scum needed only one more mislynch to win before moosy was modkilled. And pushing a player with two pages of filter that is being scumread already by others (-> Celestial, who has a high level of town cred) feels like the easy thing to do. In D1, it's safe to vote outside the town wagon. D2, the push can be kept up, and once D3 has started, things look good: thread put me under suspicion (first potential mislynch), and if that fails, there's always scott (second potential mislynch). We're lucky that Moosy was modkilled tbh. I think J Roc is scum and we should vote him. If J Roc flips town which I find highly unlikely, I'd go for Scott. Or at least that's what I would do now. We're in a very good situation but we really need to carefully look into what we do next. | ||
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On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote: Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me. This is basically the essence of Skynx Day 1. He doesn't do much, bantering here and there a little bit, and filling the first page of his filter. No strong opinions, no pushes. Interestingly enough, his first interactions are with Lunatic and Moosy, followed up by interactions with me about my "Race Bannon" which at this point is the easiest way to go. He tries to stop the scott train: On August 02 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote: Anyway 1st things 1st, mderg, stutters, KSC and jroc pls move away from Scott there is no way he is scum, thank you. Which again is interesting. I mean I stated in my post about J Roc how he is all about lynching scott. Skynx should have seen this and looked into J Roc at this point. He has a high interest in stopping the Scott train so anyone who's actively pushing that wagon should be suspicious to Skynx. On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote: Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now: Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me. Rels is plynch, same with silent. We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town. Town>Town>Town>Town>Town. He wants to policy silent at this point but there's no way that silent should be a policy lynch. Weird thought process there, again. Nothing(!) about J Roc, still, although J Roc is still pushing scott. On a sidenote there's a lazy "could lynch Luna" thingy which might be scum mentioning his teammate so he has something to rely later on. Keep in mind, Lunatic was already under pressure from Silent and myself at this point. Then, Skynx completely ignores his "top 5 lynch priority" and goes for mderg. On August 02 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote: Hmm actually thats quite bad. Bunch of other stuff not really saying much. He also likes my comment saying RB is a lazy scumread. Like as inconsistent as it gets. On August 02 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote: Well since i gotta go bed tone based updates: Rels, Scott, stutters are town. Also not feeling like plynch as per stutters point so silent gets a pass. Grack is very very slightly above btdt for me. Mderg or btdt. Ends up on me though: On August 02 2016 19:35 Skynx wrote: It came down to both of them in the end and right before I leave stutters pointed out above. I figured I jumped to conclusions too quickly on mderg, hence btdt vote. And, finally, he goes back to his initial priority: On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote: And thats about it I guess. Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4. Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution. Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while. I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. Like, where is Skynx coming from here? Re-evaluating is a good thing. Townie. But he has thus far not actively pushed anyone. He's just dropping half-hearted reads, going with thread sentiment. Note how he calls Lunatic a low hanging fruit and warns people to not go for him while he puts MoosyDoosy on his town pile, completely ignoring my meta arguments. Since he voted me, he must've seen my meta arguments, right? On August 03 2016 14:25 Skynx wrote: Vig claim is a bad idea. We need to push mderg voters first, if not cc would be harder to analyse and/or even without cc claim might have less credit. Push first into have your own opinion based on responses is the way to go. Vig can be 1,2 or multishot. I doubt there is a finalised version of role distribution but mafia can prolly analyse if its a limited or multishot vig depending on their power roles. So that makes claim even worse. This is an outright lie. + Show Spoiler [Roles] + On July 23 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote: Flavor setting: Roles: You are a Immigrant of Prosper! (Vt) You are in a bliss state, living in prosper, and take part in the governmental elections. You win with town. You are a Prosper Officer. You have been given special Privileges by the country of Onedia, and have be made a "Officer." You...Aren't entirely sure what a Officer is, but given the history books you have read, you know you can break into peoples houses! Once per night, you may break into a players houses, and see if they are up to no good. A course, you aren't that good at telling hard to understand crime, so any criminal mastermind (GF) will get away. But that shouldn't be a problem in Prosper. You win with town. You are a Medical student (doc)! While all citizens of Onedia knew basic medial procedures. But you know more detail procedures. Once per night, you may heal anyone one person of your choosing. Not that you need to, no one gets hurt around here anyways. You win with town. You are aProsper Citizen(vet)! You been around the town, and know all the alleyways. Therefore, in case of a dangerious threat, you have a extra life of sorts. You win with town. You are aOnedia "Escort"! Sometimes, newcommers just don't work out. So you get the pleasure of moving them for your country. Once per game, at night, you can remove (kill) any person that just arrived (one of the other players). You win with town. You are a Secret Rebel (goon)! You have your orders a upon arriving, do so. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels. You are A common sweet-talker (RB)! You were hired to come to Prosper, for a unknown reason. Who cares though, price was good. You are to each night, pick a person and stop them from doing anything to the morning by talking to them. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels. You are -Confidential Name- (GF) You are head of the Secret Rebel Organization. You decided this operation was worth you coming to the flied. You are good enough at blending in to not be detected by anyone. You will get a communicator (QT link), that will allow you to talk with your fellow mafia members. You win with the Rebels. The role distribution among the scum team is not random. The "power role distribution" that Skynx describes is always the same as the role descriptions imply. If that is not the case, only scum would know. Let's make sure this is not the case (although if that question gets answered with "yes", it would modconfirm Skynx as scum... lol) [b]Are there any scum roles in the game that have not been described within the role section of the OP? Absolutely not liking this post from Skynx. Content wise, I disagree with the vig not claiming. Rels was at this point subject to heavy suspicion and was an easy mislynch target for scum at this point. His claim was good, also because the possibility of a doctor was within the setup. Having confirmed town makes things always easier for town imho. Interestingly enough, he doesn't care for what confirmed town says: On August 05 2016 04:32 Skynx wrote: On August 04 2016 17:45 Rels wrote: Yeah Lunatic dude couldn't help but post every 30 seconds in the previous game, but can't be assed to post for days here. Mafia, or he has some IRL urgencies. Let's hope it's not the latter. Or he took lessons from last game. On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote: Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here... ##Vote: Silentwarrior Like - what? This is an incredibly bad vote. On August 05 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote: D1 pattern: silent pushes stutters > stutters is getting townread > people jump off scott train to silent train > Rels starts mderg train > their only interaction in game happens: On August 02 2016 07:18 Rels wrote: These posts are townie: So I'm not sure of anything on Stutters. >silent votes mderg to survive The reasoning is dumb - of course silent votes mderg to survive. I would've done the same. On August 05 2016 05:34 Skynx wrote: Celest who you wanna lynch? Lunatic won't flip scum. Hard defense. And look at this: [B]On August 05 2016 05:36 Skynx wrote: Can we shennanie KSC/btdt? You said they have equal chances with Luna, Rels. I'm happy with one of Scott/btdt/KSC. "Can we shannanie the guys that I put in the low hanging fruit category and warned everyone else to lynch them?" This makes no sense. 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All you are doing is to outright lie to the thread, trying to discredit a blue claim. It's worth a shot since mafia counterclaiming here would just give up a member for a now powerless blue. It's a subtle move right there, especially since Rels, before his claim, was under heavy suspicion by multiple players. Regarding Moosy: he's a trolly player, point taken. But you said it yourself: "wait until D2/D3 until he makes sense". He made sense from D1. It was a completely contrary observation to what I got to know when I was in the game with him. I don't see where you're coming from when you discard/not take into consideration what other people said about Moosy (-> Celestial) when at the same time, you say that your playstyle is to shoot almost randomly in pretty much any direction. What I noticed is that you completely changed from hitting anyone to "only" defending yourself while starting to townread me. The townread part is great but we need to identify scum here. So start your attack mode all over again and get onto JRoc, because right now, it's either you or him in my opinion. I'm not going to discard my case because you answered like half of the stuff in there, also since you basically said "no you're wrong" without adding too much information to your answer. Regarding your tunnel on Silent: no, I don't find a sufficient explanation of it. This is the first post in your filter where you bring him up: On August 02 2016 05:17 Skynx wrote: I had a post about something i didnt like about stutters then grack came in and defended him then stut sr'd grack. Meanwhile btdt sr'd Luna and when grack agreed he sr'd grack. Pretty sure there is one careless mafia here. Silentwarrior is also a shout. Maaaaaaybe Moosy. Dont really have an opinion on jroc and mderg. Luna is tone based townread, also due to similarities to last game. Celestial definitely gets a pass altho i didnt agree with all of his points. KSC is null. Rels how you doing bro pls step up so i dont lynch you <3 I don't see exactly where "Silentwarrior is also a shout" is a solid explanation of a read. Also how do you say "maaaaaybe Moosy" when you just stated that you townread him all game? Doesn't make sense, again. In your famous lynch priority post, Silent is the last priority. On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote: Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now: Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me. Rels is plynch, same with silent. We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town. Only reason I see is "plynch" which in no way is an elaborate explanation. On August 02 2016 19:41 Skynx wrote: Silent's defence in p24 is pretty lackluster. Why? Where? How? What is this post? On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote: And thats about it I guess. Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4. Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution. Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while. I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. Again, no explanation! On August 03 2016 14:29 Skynx wrote: I will adress your defence on my list later aswell Silent dw bro This never happened. On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote: Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here... ##Vote: Silentwarrior So up to this point, there is literally ZERO explanation on why your vote is on Silent and not on Lunatic. Zero. Absolutely nothing. Please point me to your posts where you initiate a case, start explaining, or even try to convince fellow town to follow you into your highly thought-out lynch. I absolutely do not understand this. What I found is a post I already quoted but I'll do it again: On August 05 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote: D1 pattern: silent pushes stutters > stutters is getting townread > people jump off scott train to silent train > Rels starts mderg train > their only interaction in game happens: >silent votes mderg to survive Is this the reason for you to scumread Silent? That he voted mderg over himself? Because that's a weak as fuck reason. So please do two things: 1. Explain why you pushed Silent over Lunatic. 2. Explain why you have him now as locked town. On August 08 2016 18:00 Skynx wrote: One thing is very important here celest and silent: we can never ever be daunted by others and switch votes. Always vote together. | ||
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On August 09 2016 03:46 Skynx wrote: By the way here are some stats for you: -two people are actively scumreading me right after eachother. -two people are hmm "I need to re-read" about it -one afk Oh and 3. Let me know what exactly those "statistics" should mean. | ||
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On August 10 2016 08:26 Half the Sky wrote: 100% It was looking like a "finish the bottle" (read: endgame) situation after Luna got town to perpetual mylo but I started to panic when under 20 minutes Moosy still hadn't voted and I'm like noooooooooooooooooooooooo. BTDT was poor from the votes, and I was also waiting for someone to do detailed VC but that didn't happen. I wanted to bring vca for d1 because if silent lynched town,I was last one outside of two town wagons and when I saw this l didnt dare. Im reading because after tje panic everything is good now and tbh Hospital gets boring. She sleeps a lot thank god | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Yesterday when we were swimming, she fell pretty hard on the back of her head, and later when she was in bed, she started puking, so we decided to go to the hospital because we feared a concussion. And indeed, doctors said she has a minor concussion and they wanted to keep her for 48 hours as a routine. She puked once more through the night but after that, all was fine. I didn't get to sleep much for several reasons, the machines running in the room were loud and woke me up regularly (although my daughter slept all throughout the night without disturbance) and I was highly worried about her since it was the first hospital stay I've ever had with my child (well, besides birth). However today she already felt much better and doctors said she's doing great. No fever, no high/low blood pressure, good reactions to light and so on, so yeah, another stay at night for her. Mum took over an hour ago and I'm finally home. I feel exhausted as fuck but I want to join in the post-game discussion. First off, the hosting. I want to start with a big thank you to the hosts for the effort that was put in. On the other hand, there are some points that I want to raise as I did not like them: The vote counts were rather bad. Although the game was going slowly, I felt like there were so few vote counts that I asked myself if the hosts were even bothering about the game. Host questions such as the one I imposed were not answered, not even mentioned. EoD/EoNs were treated very lackluster and weren't on time. As a solution for that, I suggest to include one or two more co-hosts to the game with differing timezones. Regarding the game: I feel like I over-bussed. I started D1 with putting shade on Luna already, also Moosy. My goal was to play as a standalone scummer, also since I felt like we wouldn't have much coordination given we had MoosyDoosy on the team who, to me, is a rather unreliant teammate. His modkill even confirmed that theory and I will be very carefully making the decision if I ever join a game with him again. The general inactivity level was poor and I have to admit that I played part in that. I didn't post too much too, although I was heavily reading via mobile. I decided to not do anything around EoD1 since I knew we had town trains only. D2, I wanted to start leading town a bit but didn't manage to pull up the motivation to even try. After the modkill/warning spree that introduced the endgame, I really felt motivated to do stuff though. I knew that Celestial had already started to un-scumread me so I put in heavy effort. I knew that Celest, who's a high volume poster on his own, would take that as a town indicator so I felt kinda save leaving him alive. Killing Skynx over Celest/Silent was a choice that I made after having a skype discussion with my coach, Artanis. Kudos and a big thank you to Artanis at this point. Killing Skynx over Celest wouldn't make any sense as scum and I highly hoped people would take the Skynx kill as a tinfoil Celestscum move, or as a scott/jroc kill. Well. I'm not sure if I could've taken the win. But given that Celestial would've been my next kill and LYLO would've been Silent/Jroc or Scott, I think my chances were actually quite decent. I won't sign up to a game with Kelsier though. General activity level was terrible anyways. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:36 kitaman27 wrote: On both day one and day two there were six different vote counts and on each day there were counts during the final hour of the cycle. On day three there was only a single count, but there was essentially a claimed mafia and 4 out of the 8 players forgot to vote. Frankly that seems pretty reasonable to me. I can't speak for shape on this one, but I never received any PMs from you so I'm not quite sure what you are referring to. There was 1 post that was 90 minutes late because shape lost power and I wasn't aware immediately, so apologies for that, but otherwise the other six day/night posts were pretty much on time. An extra co-host would probably help in that regard, but it's a pretty rare situation. I guess you can criticize the lack of flavor text, but that's going to vary from game to game. Hm. You're right. Still, I leave the game with a weird feeling towards hosting. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
/e oh wow link colors | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On August 13 2016 07:46 KelsierSC wrote: Think I handled this game pretty well. Bold move. I'm sure players of your caliber in newbie games will draw more people to this site. | ||
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