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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:13 GMT
#893
I doubt it, silent. As long as he's kept up minimal activity requirements he's not actually OBLIGATED to do more than that. Even if it has screwed us quite a bit.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:14 GMT
#895
I'd also note that with the Moosy vote we still have the lynch on Lunatic anyway. So if we DO want to try to get shenanies pushed along, silent, then we need to do it NOW and hope more people come along that can flip their votes.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:17 GMT
#900
On August 05 2016 07:14 Lunaticman wrote:
The only thing Ill give him is that he has been trying to make the vig waste his shot on him by being super scummy.


Actually this is a seriously legit argument.


But...if there IS a real one then we're still going to get a CC at some point.

At this point I almost feel its worth lynching someone else ANYWAY and the CC hold off until after the night phase. Then they can CC, if anyone is even going to, after the NK and we know who to lynch on D3.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:18 GMT
#904
Also yes, if he really is a blue he should have claimed doc there. Not vet. That was a misplay.

Mafia don't know setup. Doc claim means they have to shoot him. One wasted night kill.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:21 GMT
#909
Probably should have waited a bit more on that. Might have been able to flip another shenanie.

Eh, what's done is done. Back to KSC.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:22 GMT
#912
We're actually still going to lose Lunatic without at least one more switch.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:22 GMT
#913
Moosy, get on KSC.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:23 GMT
#918
Surface level thinking is that team is KSC/BTDT +1 but that's in the absence of any more filtering which I'll have to do tomorrow.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:23 GMT
#920
On August 05 2016 07:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 07:22 -Celestial- wrote:
Moosy, get on KSC.

he just claimed tho


He got CCd by Lunatic.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:27 GMT
#928
Like it doesn't even matter here. You lynch KSC first 100% considering he actually claimed the worst possible claim here (mafia is blind to setup, according to OPs, so you never claim vet except in the very specific circumstance that you're actually doc and under pressure, not CCing). If for some ungodly reason KSC is actually blue you lynch Lunatic D3.

Auto.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:32 GMT
#937
On August 05 2016 07:28 silentwarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 07:09 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 05 2016 07:08 -Celestial- wrote:
On August 05 2016 07:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 05 2016 07:05 Rels wrote:
OK that will get solved at some point.
##Unvote
##Vote BTDT


Really your going to believe that?



It does kinda align with how he's been so "IDGAF" about the whole game.

More to the point do you want to risk lynching an un-ccd blue?


Well if I told you I was the medic would you believe me?

Either way a blue role would have put in much more effort in the game.


This is the only thing making me doubt Lunatics blue claim. Plus the fact that he was ready to accept his fate before, knowing he could claim. Shit, I'm not sure of anything right now, but we do have one other lynch, and mafia is obviosly either Lunatic or KSC, so we will atleast get one of them.


It practically doesn't matter. Town does not claim vet here because it wastes the role totally. You claim doc and bait a bullet next night (because they HAVE to shoot a claimed doc). The lack of a night kill confirms you as town. That's basic strategy unless KSC has totally taken leave of his senses.

If KSC DID screw up and Lunatic is just taking the opportunity to get a mislynch then we lynch him tomorrow as an outed mafia.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 22:33 GMT
#943
On August 05 2016 07:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 07:27 -Celestial- wrote:
Like it doesn't even matter here. You lynch KSC first 100% considering he actually claimed the worst possible claim here (mafia is blind to setup, according to OPs, so you never claim vet except in the very specific circumstance that you're actually doc and under pressure, not CCing). If for some ungodly reason KSC is actually blue you lynch Lunatic D3.

Auto.

yeah tbh it doesn't matter since scum can just rb their way thru veteran and doc can't heal themselves. which makes this situation worse because whether it's doc or veteran, both played bad.


Oh yeah I forgot RBing vet was a thing tbh.

Either way one dies now. If they're blue we get the other tomorrow. Meanwhile we can hunt for the others. It puts us in a crap situation with no room to screw up as far as I can work out, but at least we got a red.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:08 GMT
#958
On August 05 2016 08:07 Rels wrote:
...


Pretty much.

Auto-lynch on Lunatic now.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:08 GMT
#960
On August 05 2016 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
But you seriously fucked up Kels


IDEK why join the game if you're just not going to bother like...at all tbh.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:17 GMT
#971
Unless you get NKd, silent, you got like 24 hours...plus 48 hours (because tomorrow we're lynching Lunatic)...plus 24 hour...plus another 48 hours.

My activity is going to go way down in a week too because I'm going on holiday so I'll only be able to post occasionally from phone.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:24 GMT
#975
On August 05 2016 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Gone through a lot of stuff recently. I just wanted to do things that used to make me happy. Unfortunatley with my work and other circumstances I just can't commit to these games and get the same enjoyment. I'm sorry i upset So many of you. I wish you all the best in your future games which I regret I won't be part of. Thanks for the host shape.


I can't deny it was kinda frustrating; but no hate. <3

Take care of yourself, Kelsier.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:26 GMT
#978
On August 05 2016 08:23 Rels wrote:
Since I suppose I'm gonna be killed I'm gonna post my last will right now:
Luna / BTDT should be auto. That sucks. Keep talking if you can about stuff.
I just remembered that Luna came back voting scott. Then tried to lynch KSC. This is a town indicator for scott, given that Luna was looking for a lynch other than him. We have to take chances this game, and I think we can take the gamble that scott is town. It is very possible.

Never lynch silent. Maybe never lynch Celestial.
Skynx I'm less sure about. But probably town.

So last scum is likely among Moosy / J Roc. Maybe I lied and I will read their filters tomorrow. Maybe not. I would lynch Luna / BTDT / Moosy right now. Moosy is actually playing very, very close to his scum meta from a recent game of his. I'll do a post about it tomorrow if I have the time.



Lunatic is auto.

BTDT...probably scum. Agreed.

The point on scott is really good. I HATE scott's filter but I guess I'll start looking at how other people have acted towards scott. Lunatic has quite a big filter so there should be markers in there for the last. At this point I'm not really trusting anyone else so...yeah.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:37 GMT
#984
I'm probably going off to play DOTA2 now anyway.

Gah this game...

Lunatic dies next day cycle. 100% If anyone isn't on that wagon they're scum.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 04 2016 23:40 GMT
#986
What's really bugging me. I mean really bugging me. Is with about five minutes to go I thought it'd be interesting to see what would happen if I flipped back to Lunatic. After that big analysis post earlier I was liking him less and less the more I thought about it.

Problem is it'd have been suicide if he'd flipped anything other than red. And with the way the claims had come in, KSC had to be the first lynch.

So I didn't do it. X-(
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 05 2016 12:27 GMT
#1001
On August 05 2016 17:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
You guys believe a cc with shitty reasoning


This pretty much outs you here. Its not so much anyone 'believed' so much as mechanically the best play there was to lynch KSC, then lynch Lunatic. KSC had done nothing all game. Lunatic's claim came off the back of actually doing stuff. Either way you're lynching one then the other if the first doesn't flip red.

I already pointed out how super weird your last post was. The problem is that now town can't lynch me for the confirmation to kill you and probably scott, which is a huge pain. scott really has done absolutely nothing of value all game but you love the guy.


Actually on reflection I'd maybe prefer a scott lynch first. But there's plenty of time to think on it because tomorrow we're lynching Lunatic so its at least like...five days before we lynch anyone else. Plenty of time to re-dive everyone.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
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