On August 03 2016 03:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I will not yield, Rels. Oh no, no, no! A fight through the day there shall be!
I will not yield, Rels. Oh no, no, no! A fight through the day there shall be!
WHO IS THE STRONGEST NOW BITCH
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Rels
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On August 03 2016 03:41 Grackaroni wrote: I will not yield, Rels. Oh no, no, no! A fight through the day there shall be! WHO IS THE STRONGEST NOW BITCH | ||
Rels
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I'll take some hours tonight to get serious about the game | ||
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On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here Except it is in my case, 'cause if I didn't people would try to lynch me all day and I would not be able to get the people I want lynched. PLUS I don't care if I'm being roleblocked cause I don't have any power anymore. PLUS as long as we have a doc and he doesn't have to claim I cannot die. Maybe scum will roll the dice of the setup being vet / vig instead of doc / vig and shoot me, but they will have a 50/50 chance to have their shot blocked. So I'm a confirmed town with a high chance of surviving. | ||
J Roc
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##Vote Scott. I said there were scum on the mderg wagon. A vigi claimed and a vt flipped. We lynch scott 100% here today. | ||
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Onegu
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J Roc
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Lynch Scott. Will back later. | ||
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On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
I think I'm gonna push one of Luna / Skynx today. | ||
Rels
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On August 03 2016 07:55 silentwarrior wrote: I believe Lunatic is Mafia. Here is why: Lunatic started of the game with saying he think Race was town for his excesive posting. But when Grack said the same thing he says "I don't know how you came to that conclusion" and says it's an easy way to get town points. But Lunatic literally did the same thing 4 posts before.: Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 00:55 Grackaroni wrote: On August 01 2016 00:50 Stutters695 wrote: On August 01 2016 00:38 Grackaroni wrote: On August 01 2016 00:25 Stutters695 wrote: On July 31 2016 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: Hey guys, totally reasonable Moosy chipping in here. My totally logical thoughts say that Race Bannon is spamming for the sake of spamming. As a man who employs this technique myself I say it's safe to ignore every post he makes and address him on a later date since he's basically guaranteed to act like a sack of potatoes all of D1. Slight issue is that's totally unreasonable. He was completely capable of producing readable content as both alignments in previous games. This is probably an attempt to shift his meta, although it's almost inconsequential because it is incredibly anti-town. You should read Race Bannon's blog. Page 2 is where it starts to really get good. Can I get a tldr? Gonna lynch him? It is just the LONGEST stream of gibberish that I have ever seen. Celestial is right it looks like Race just got banned for 2 weeks, so a replacement should be on the way. Based on his play so far I think he was more likely to be town. I don't know how you came to that conclusion but since he is being replaced can you please elaborate on this read. Also this is a good way to get town cred now that he is getting replaced. He also says he dosen't want to post a lot because apparently in another game that ticked people off. That is a huge red flag for me. I don't think anyone would not want someone to post a lot. He says he will cutdown posting for that reason. Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: On August 01 2016 05:17 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 04:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: On August 01 2016 00:37 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 00:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: Eh, not too fond of policy lynches D1 Hahahahaha Hey man I would be dead 85% of the time if people went for policy lynches D1. Care to elaborate why? Ask the other ppl in this game lol. Normally I'm batshit insane but I'm being the super reasonable Moosy right now. Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going. At that point he had done no analyzing or contributed in the slightest. He then attacks KSC in what can only be desribed as an easy way to get town points. He states that KSC went back on his word, even though he did no such thing and puts words in his mouth. He basically tries to make a case out of nothing. Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote: game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. When celestial comes in with his big post he becomes his no:1 fanboy and basically tries his best at buddying up with him. The following post is nothing but licking celestials boot. Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote: That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that. First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. Also, he says he cant trust Grac here: Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote: Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote: Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game ##vote Race Bannon See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? But just a few posts after he calls him town after his skepticism isn't shared by skynx. He then goes back on his word twice on grack in one post. He says he thinks he is probably town but will "wait and see". Basically not wanting to take a stance at all and keeping his options open, very scumlike. Show nested quote + On August 01 2016 18:40 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 14:51 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote: Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote: Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game ##vote Race Bannon See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? He asked for people's opinions, I gave one, how's that being sceptical of anyone? Also previous games shouldn't have an effect on how you approach people if they are not massive trolls. If you feel like you have such a good feel in his playstyle after 1 game and can meta read him based off of that 24h into a new game please inform us. That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose. He then puts his vote on Rels, who was still inactive at that point. He was probably the easiest vote seeing as he was inactive. No one would even think twice about it, not even rels. After that he goes on to say that rels should accept resposibility for mislynching mderg, which makes no sense. Mderg was honestly acting scummy, and having mislynched someone obv don't make you mafia. Also, now that some of the thread have moved against Grac, he flips again from previous position and calls grac scummy. To me all this points that Lunatic is Mafia. This is a pretty good case. ##Vote Lunatic | ||
Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now. What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott? | ||
silentwarrior
131 Posts
Oh, and since it is day now. ##Vote Lunaticman | ||
silentwarrior
131 Posts
On August 03 2016 19:47 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2016 07:55 silentwarrior wrote: I believe Lunatic is Mafia. Here is why: Lunatic started of the game with saying he think Race was town for his excesive posting. But when Grack said the same thing he says "I don't know how you came to that conclusion" and says it's an easy way to get town points. But Lunatic literally did the same thing 4 posts before.: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 00:55 Grackaroni wrote: On August 01 2016 00:50 Stutters695 wrote: On August 01 2016 00:38 Grackaroni wrote: On August 01 2016 00:25 Stutters695 wrote: On July 31 2016 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: Hey guys, totally reasonable Moosy chipping in here. My totally logical thoughts say that Race Bannon is spamming for the sake of spamming. As a man who employs this technique myself I say it's safe to ignore every post he makes and address him on a later date since he's basically guaranteed to act like a sack of potatoes all of D1. Slight issue is that's totally unreasonable. He was completely capable of producing readable content as both alignments in previous games. This is probably an attempt to shift his meta, although it's almost inconsequential because it is incredibly anti-town. You should read Race Bannon's blog. Page 2 is where it starts to really get good. Can I get a tldr? Gonna lynch him? It is just the LONGEST stream of gibberish that I have ever seen. Celestial is right it looks like Race just got banned for 2 weeks, so a replacement should be on the way. Based on his play so far I think he was more likely to be town. I don't know how you came to that conclusion but since he is being replaced can you please elaborate on this read. Also this is a good way to get town cred now that he is getting replaced. He also says he dosen't want to post a lot because apparently in another game that ticked people off. That is a huge red flag for me. I don't think anyone would not want someone to post a lot. He says he will cutdown posting for that reason. On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: On August 01 2016 05:17 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 04:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: On August 01 2016 00:37 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 00:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: Eh, not too fond of policy lynches D1 Hahahahaha Hey man I would be dead 85% of the time if people went for policy lynches D1. Care to elaborate why? Ask the other ppl in this game lol. Normally I'm batshit insane but I'm being the super reasonable Moosy right now. Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going. At that point he had done no analyzing or contributed in the slightest. He then attacks KSC in what can only be desribed as an easy way to get town points. He states that KSC went back on his word, even though he did no such thing and puts words in his mouth. He basically tries to make a case out of nothing. On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote: game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. When celestial comes in with his big post he becomes his no:1 fanboy and basically tries his best at buddying up with him. The following post is nothing but licking celestials boot. On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote: That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that. First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. Also, he says he cant trust Grac here: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote: Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote: Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game ##vote Race Bannon See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? But just a few posts after he calls him town after his skepticism isn't shared by skynx. He then goes back on his word twice on grack in one post. He says he thinks he is probably town but will "wait and see". Basically not wanting to take a stance at all and keeping his options open, very scumlike. On August 01 2016 18:40 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 14:51 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote: On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote: Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote: Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game ##vote Race Bannon See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? He asked for people's opinions, I gave one, how's that being sceptical of anyone? Also previous games shouldn't have an effect on how you approach people if they are not massive trolls. If you feel like you have such a good feel in his playstyle after 1 game and can meta read him based off of that 24h into a new game please inform us. That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose. He then puts his vote on Rels, who was still inactive at that point. He was probably the easiest vote seeing as he was inactive. No one would even think twice about it, not even rels. After that he goes on to say that rels should accept resposibility for mislynching mderg, which makes no sense. Mderg was honestly acting scummy, and having mislynched someone obv don't make you mafia. Also, now that some of the thread have moved against Grac, he flips again from previous position and calls grac scummy. To me all this points that Lunatic is Mafia. This is a pretty good case. ##Vote Lunatic It's Lunaticman btw, not sure if they count it if it's misspelled. | ||
silentwarrior
131 Posts
On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote: On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now. What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott? No, only lynch for me is lunatic. Also, claiming vig is the best thing for town right now. We get a confirmed town and we also might have a doctor, who will most likely protect Rels now. This is a very good position for town right now. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote: On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now. What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott? I didn't claim right before deadline because I was sleeping. I don't understand what you are saying in that second part of your post. What I'm saying is that you should be happy that I claim cause now you know that I'm town and you can push whoever you want, silent or scsott being the most logical that is true given your list. Nothing you've written addresses this. | ||
J Roc
96 Posts
On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote: On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote: Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now. What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott? Unless there is a counter claim we arent lynching rels. And this is a really bad play if rels is scum as it would at best trade out a used blue for himself. Rels is vig. | ||
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