Newbie Student Mafia XXII - Page 3

On August 02 2016 05:54 Skynx wrote:

I kinda see it now when i check it again. I really need to sleep tho remind me of this if u can.

On August 02 2016 06:11 -Celestial- wrote:
Skynx just threw a vote on BTDT right before leaving but didn't actually say why he chose him over mderg as far as I can see. Can anyone point out a post where he says this?

On August 02 2016 12:43 -Celestial- wrote:
Tinfoil hat theory.

Grack didn't want to shenanie onto KSC because they're scumteam together.

KSC/Grack/silent

Early votes thrown onto KSC were done deliberately sloppy to distance themselves from each other whilst not actually pushing a possible legitimate lynch. Despite the votes nobody really made any effort to pressure KSC or push him as a possible scum wagon which let him just be lazy and fly under the radar.

This is probably garbage because I'm just blurting stuff out at nearly 5am after too much wine and making a bunch of assumptions and literally not checking anything. But I felt like I needed to write it down somewhere.

On August 02 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:
A lot happend while I was asleep, There are many suspicious things that occured and I will try to work through the pages during the day (at work atm) and explain what I believe happend.

I think it is safe to say that most of the accusations yesterday was probably Town versus Town (at least of the players being tossed around for a lynch while I was asleep). First I'm going to post a list on my current read on the players (I can elaborate on them if asked). And it is safe to assume at least one mafia was on the train on Mderg. And one mafia was probably not on it.

Town:
Lunaticman
Mderg

Town-reads:
Celestial
Scott
Skynx


Nullreads/unsure:
MoosyDoosy
silentwarrior
J Roc
Stutter
BeenThereDoneThat

Scummy:
KelsierSC
Grac

Mafia:
Rels

First of all Rels joins the game way to late to actually consolidate town in any meaningful way. And he only does it after being called out on it (modkill warning?). And he starts a train with conviction anyway and simply points out three/four players based on nothing:


You then explain why Mderg is scum and I have to agree most of your points are valid but it feels contrived when you do this post:



And then you welcome Grac aboard, like it is the only available lynch target. Grac is more than happy to follow your read and happily join. I feel like there has to be one mafia between the two of you and it feels like you are playing way to similar to last game. It can be that one of you wree trying to protect one of the lynch targets in scott/Mderg. I don't think both of you are mafia though.

I also feel that Moosys modkill warning was really wierd, it might be he simply forgot to vote but it is still strange.

I am not impressed with Kelsier contributions to town atm, it doesn't feel like he trying to solve the game. It is like he doesn't care and just coasting through the day, I expect him to do a lot of work day 2.

The same thing applies to BeenThere but I feel he has done more for town.

I don't like how Grac was sheeping Rels. I find it hard to think that both Grac and Rels would make such a mistake but it is not impossible. I would think Rels is more probable out of the two. Grac has way more activity this game and feels towny to me based on it. But some of his thoughts doesn't make sense to me. Ill have to reread his filter.

On August 02 2016 21:09 Lunaticman wrote:


At first I put both KSC and BTDT in the same category but when I read their filters BTDT did way more to solve the game, so I "uppgraded" him. KSC filter is really really bad, it does not contain anything useful at all.

The reason for where I put Grac is that he has posted a lot more constructive this game compared to last game and before I went to sleep I had him as towny. I did not like his sheep vote from Rels at all and when I compared them I think Rels is more likely to be mafia between the two. Townies are prone to make more "honest" mistakes and I think Rels has to take responsibility for the misslynch,

I don't feel I have as good a read on either Moosy or Stutters yet to place them in my town list. They are however more towny than null but I'm not certain. I think I will reread their filters after day 2 and make a decision after that.

This might sound cliche but Celestials filter is what I consider to be the perfect towny. I also don't think any mafia would put that much effort into solving the game that early and just trying to move the thread forward when it was basically dying. Atm I see no reason to change my mind regarding cele.

Also scott is not mafia because of how bannon was playing. I don't buy that he would do that spam as either alignment.

On August 03 2016 14:08 scott31337 wrote:
We got into a car accident today buying another vehicle (fucking my luck right?

We're out of the hospital now but my brain isn't playing mafia tonight - it checked out a few hours ago.

I took the day off work tomorrow so I'll read over then and give my thoughts.

On August 03 2016 12:40 -Celestial- wrote:


I guess an argument can be made that holding onto the vig claim (that isn't going to be challenged unless mafia REALLY needs the mislynch and are willing to risk a mafia life for it) will allow for a potential impact reveal later and make for a less easy N2 shot which would just be on the confirmed town vig (unless there's a doc in the game, in which case they just protect the vig from the shadows). Problem is that we have very little to go on right now, so the extra info could be useful. :-\

That's assuming Vig is one shot. Vig is one shot this game, right? I can't actually see it in the OPs but vig have always been one shot in the newbie games I've played I think.

IDK. Game is hard.

On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:

I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me.
But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him.

On August 03 2016 01:58 silentwarrior wrote:


Did you just put everyone that voted for Mderg as red? If so, then first where is scott? Second, explain why voting for mderg means you are scum, especially my vote since I only voted to not get lynched myself.

If that's not how you picked the reds then I want an explanation on why, because you haven't given one.