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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 23 2016 08:22 GMT
#1461
Look at the names on that Rels wagon. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 23 2016 08:36 GMT
#1462
On July 23 2016 17:18 Lunaticman wrote:
I think I might have figured out the mafia strategy, they are using the massive amount of posts to sow confusion. I think the players that have switched the town from focused trains and sown confusion are highly likely to be mafia.

I think the town in general is having to hard of a time to decide on a lynch which means the mafia is trying to obfuscate good targets and raise suspicion on relative clean townies.

They tried to do it on me but failed so now they are using me as a wagon for their intent.

I think there are two players that come to mind if you look at this pattern:

Koshi and Tumble.

I ask the town to focus their attention on these two players and see if they can find any inconsistencies in their statements that are worthy of a lynch.

I still think it is possible Kruppe is a scum too.

Quite frankly, it's your job to focus your attention on your scum reads, look for inconsistencies and then push your case for them being scum based off what you find. Please go ahead and do so, I will definitely consider what you have to say.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 23 2016 08:41 GMT
#1463
On July 23 2016 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 17:18 Lunaticman wrote:
I think I might have figured out the mafia strategy, they are using the massive amount of posts to sow confusion. I think the players that have switched the town from focused trains and sown confusion are highly likely to be mafia.

I think the town in general is having to hard of a time to decide on a lynch which means the mafia is trying to obfuscate good targets and raise suspicion on relative clean townies.

They tried to do it on me but failed so now they are using me as a wagon for their intent.

I think there are two players that come to mind if you look at this pattern:

Koshi and Tumble.

I ask the town to focus their attention on these two players and see if they can find any inconsistencies in their statements that are worthy of a lynch.

I still think it is possible Kruppe is a scum too.

Quite frankly, it's your job to focus your attention on your scum reads, look for inconsistencies and then push your case for them being scum based off what you find. Please go ahead and do so, I will definitely consider what you have to say.


Read their filters and voting pattern with what I just said in mind, I think it will become obvious. At this stage as I said from the beginning of the day. The pattern is obvious.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 23 2016 10:12 GMT
#1464
Time is money ppl!
Failure is not an option
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 23 2016 13:32 GMT
#1465
I ll be back few hours be4 eod.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 23 2016 13:46 GMT
#1466
Who do you guys want to lynch anyway?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 23 2016 14:00 GMT
#1467
Maybe not actually, I didn't read a lot but Koshi is maf so.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 23 2016 14:19 GMT
#1468
Yeah I think Tumble is probably the right vote. If he claims I think we lynch anyways, since he was roleblocked last night in any case and will 100% be killed tonight. Don't think I'll be here for eod, but we'll see.

I think we should all post a reads list including some mafia and town before eod b/c of silent night.

Very likely Town:
-lunatic
-kruppe
-koshi
-skynx (maybe some inconsistencies between skynx/koshi)

Probably town:
-dc
-prpl

Maybe mafia:
-grack
-rels

Probably mafia
-tumble
-sl

There are some issues with the mafia list since maybe only 1 of tumble/rels is likely mafia, and the point above with skynx/koshi.

I may post a huge dump of notes if it looks like I won't be back before the end of day.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 23 2016 14:21 GMT
#1469
We are up to 3 votes on tumble now
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:27 GMT
#1470
On July 23 2016 13:03 DCWasabi wrote:
OK, well turns out "solving the game" was a bit too ambitious, but I can give my thoughts...

Rels: #1 Mafia
He tunneled me 4ever, confirmed town (to myself).
He is also throwing shade at tumble, who I believe is town and Prp who is my #1 town read.


Grackaroni: Mafia
Rels #1 bestest teamate, if Rels flips town then disregard this read

prplhz: #1 town
consistant tone, changes his mind when presented with evidence, hard to fake passion, hesitant to lynch Kush, good thoughts about Kruppe

Skynx:
I think she is town or a skilled mafia, more likely town.
Filter is fucking long.
Good logic and reading things, moving thread forward.
I like her case on Koshi and defence of Kush.

note:
I don't read prplhz or Skynx as Mafia for scumreading me necessairly, because I admit that parts of my play have looked a bit scummy.
They aren't tunelling me like Rels was.

Kruppe: town for now because nobody cced

Tumble: Town
He is either town, or I think he is a really good at mafia.

Lunaticman:
Another fking long filter.
I think he is town, but if he ever confirmed town... do this: Go back and look at posts where he suspected somebody and then see who questioned his credibility right afterwards or called him crazy (they may be mafia).

Empc:
Town, as I explained earlier, I don't think his play this game is the exact same as his last scum games. For me it is noticeably different, even if he is not driving thread forward with logic, I feel like his posts are more heartfelt and not forced. Either he is town this game or he got better at playing mafia. i hope I'm not wrong.

There is also some Wifom about his "random vote" that yielded Palmar. I think it leans town as it would be too obvious to then NK palmer, but Wifom will be Wifom. It is a bit weird though that he then didn't comment on the idea that maybe mafia were setting him up... but it is not like he was really pushing for a Palmar kill, so it is probably nothing...

1 more thing, he is defending me at a points where I think it would have be stupid to do so if he was mafia. I mean, if there are several town on me right now, then I think Mafia could have a good shot at lynching me with a push form just 1-2 Mafia (please don't do that).

He says I need to step up and I think that is fair.

Sicklucker:
Towny because his reads make sense to me

Koshi: Town
if he is not town then we will worry about that later, he can actually push thread forward if he is town.


WELL FK, one of my TR has to be Mafia because it doesn't add up

The 2 reads I care about today are very generic.
One is mafia because he is scumreading you...
The other one is town because he would be good at mafia...

Other reads are better, but less important today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:29 GMT
#1471
Also the Grack read is insanely funny if you are mafia with TW and Grack.

Mafia agenda by DCWasabi:
Push Rels with pure OMGUS and spare Tumble with a lame excuse. When Rels flips town have a good excuse to exonerate scumbuddy Grack and see where the chips fall tomorrow.



For me the scumteam is pretty much still the 4 names I said before.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:30 GMT
#1472
On July 23 2016 14:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll take Rels #1 bestest teammate any day of the week. It seems like he could use a buddy at this point.

awkward joke while commenting on a scumbuddy list?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:33 GMT
#1473
Not sure if the following pages were mafia on mafia. And there were mafia there with Tumble/sl/Grack. Or is is poor Skynx anyway
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:34 GMT
#1474
Tumble/Skynx/Grack/DCW

and benched is sl. But I don't think so.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:36 GMT
#1475
Lunatic,

We really need to talk. At this point I don't know what you are doing. It has been multiple hours now that you keep repeating Kruppe/Kushi/Tumble while there is literally 0 chance Kruppe is mafia. And you refuse to use any new evidence or events in the thread to further your read between Koshi and Tumble.

And you are not looking for mafia outside those 3 names while you know well enough that there is.

So. How can I help you? Because you are stagnating. I don't like it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 23 2016 14:37 GMT
#1476
On July 23 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Also the Grack read is insanely funny if you are mafia with TW and Grack.

Mafia agenda by DCWasabi:
Push Rels with pure OMGUS and spare Tumble with a lame excuse. When Rels flips town have a good excuse to exonerate scumbuddy Grack and see where the chips fall tomorrow.



For me the scumteam is pretty much still the 4 names I said before.


Could you summarise the list and why I want it in a context
Failure is not an option
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:39 GMT
#1477
Maybe I should bench Lunatic. Nobody has a real grip on this game yet it seems and it might be because off him? Probably not though.

Sicklucker, could you please please please hurry up a bit and try to solve it a bit further than Grack alone. I haven't read your filter too in depth but it seems like you are refusing to see & explore the bigger picture this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:39 GMT
#1478
On July 23 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Also the Grack read is insanely funny if you are mafia with TW and Grack.

Mafia agenda by DCWasabi:
Push Rels with pure OMGUS and spare Tumble with a lame excuse. When Rels flips town have a good excuse to exonerate scumbuddy Grack and see where the chips fall tomorrow.



For me the scumteam is pretty much still the 4 names I said before.


Could you summarise the list and why I want it in a context

what? I don't understand.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2016 14:40 GMT
#1479
I need to go to the store. brb. 20ish minutes.
I had a good night of sleep.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 23 2016 14:41 GMT
#1480
On July 23 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Lunatic,

We really need to talk. At this point I don't know what you are doing. It has been multiple hours now that you keep repeating Kruppe/Kushi/Tumble while there is literally 0 chance Kruppe is mafia. And you refuse to use any new evidence or events in the thread to further your read between Koshi and Tumble.

And you are not looking for mafia outside those 3 names while you know well enough that there is.

So. How can I help you? Because you are stagnating. I don't like it.


My point is to focus the town and I am convinced there is a mafia in there. Why should I look elsewere?
I stated that I thought it was part of the mafia strategy, and here you are still doing it way to prove my point.
Failure is not an option
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