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On July 22 2016 20:56 prplhz wrote: Are targets of role blocker and jail keeper actions notified that they've been role blocked?
Roleblocks are not notified, only in the case of a vig or cop would they have an indication if they were rb.
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I think we should speculate on some reasons for killing palmar. I think that it's just a fear kill personally, I don't think that he was going after anyone in particular and I don't think that he had a particularly strong town standing.
I'm not really sure if the kill tells us anything. I expected a kill on either Koshi or Kruppe.
@Kruppe: I would really like to hear the motivation for jailkeeping tumble
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a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.
Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them.
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skynx is maybe the only one that benefits from a Palmar nk... Maybeeee
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We should leave Kruppe for now I think 
If we get the mafia goon, then more or less confirm that it was a fake claim also. Maybe in some of the spam of the last few pages it was discussed that if he's jailkeep that means there could be a vigilante (50/50 odds). Since he lead people to believe that he was cop of some sort, if there was a vig then they might have shot. Therefore, it makes his jailkeep claim a little more dubious. This is something to keep in mind as we progress with maybe some kills or more info.
Also, I don't think we should counter-claim since I think we can figure it out regardless, but maybe someone with more experience can give some opinion.
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On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote: yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx Kush Krupp Tumble Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list.
Tumble Skynx Rels.
Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.
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Also, people remember that there is instant majority, so laying a few votes can turn to a lynch VERY quickly, and a slip up like that is gonna be reaaaallllly bad.
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Yeah I like those 3 names. Pretty likely 2 mafia in there.
I should really just not push anybody D1/N1. There has not been much success to it lately.
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##Vote Rels
Kush/Palmar and a lot of people found/find him suspicious. Reading his filter nothing stands out. Didn't really care his preferred lynch target was lynched. When I asked him about DCW close to the lynch he didn't try to convince me the guy was mafia at all. Instead he deflected my invitation to join him with "I don't know DCW is 100% mafia". Which is maybe weird.
Anyway. My vote is there.
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On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote: yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx Kush Krupp Tumble Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list. Tumble Skynx Rels. Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.
I forgot about this list. If the blue claim is fake, then yes I pretty much agree with it, otherwise seems too neat.
One thing about Tumble: maybe he really doesn't like playing as scum, I didn't get that feeling too much when playing with him, but he seems to be pretty disinterested this game. So I had this thought that he could only be scum with Kruppe maybe since it's kinda like playing with the trolly Moosy like in presidential.
In my mind, Rels could likely be mafia at the moment.
One other thing is that I'm worried that you could be mafia, and this is a very legitimate thing to push if so =/
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 Maybe I am mafia. Maybe not. But don't let me maybe being mafia stop you from accepting things you find logical.
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For now, my vote lies against Rels in spirit, if not in actuality.
Also, I'm still pretty salty that Kruppe has been scum reading me this entire time
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On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote: yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx Kush Krupp Tumble Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list. Tumble Skynx Rels. Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC.
Yes I was thinking the same thing, but isn't that what they want us to believe? I mean either your assumption is correct or we should inverse the list and look there instead.
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On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote: I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote: meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote: ##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote: Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote: Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me.
I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e.
I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made.
I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.
alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush.
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On July 22 2016 22:51 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote: yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx Kush Krupp Tumble Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list. Tumble Skynx Rels. Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC. Yes I was thinking the same thing, but isn't that what they want us to believe? I mean either your assumption is correct or we should inverse the list and look there instead.
Night kills are always wifom yeah. Personally I have other reasons to suspect that it could be Rels so it makes sense to look there at the moment.
Palmar feels a bit like a wifom kill, but I think it's also a fear kill. I guess we should ask ourselves who would be afraid of Palmar if it's fear?
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On July 22 2016 22:51 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote: yes, I don't remember a single post by him so he should be added to the list of 5.
Like can we all sort of agree on that list?
Skynx Kush Krupp Tumble Rels
We're lynching in here, right? Like... I think most mafia are in here and decided to kill Palmar due to this list. Tumble Skynx Rels. Krupp is confirmed blue unless CC. Yes I was thinking the same thing, but isn't that what they want us to believe? I mean either your assumption is correct or we should inverse the list and look there instead. wifom is wifom.
But for me in this moment it makes sense those names are mafia. We will see what they do today. I was very wrong D1 to trust Tumble/Skynx it seems. Rels I never trusted and found extremely "dumb" (because there is no better word) yesterday around the lynch. So I want to lynch him.
Palmar/Kush also had him on their list.
I am going to quit the game for a bit now. I need to see what happens. .
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oh 1 more thing. I think DCW played very townie when he came back to the thread. agree?
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On July 22 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote: oh 1 more thing. I think DCW played very townie when he came back to the thread. agree?
Agreed! I don't think you say those things to deflect heat as mafia, seemed too personal.
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BTW, hope everything is OK DC
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I dunno I'm probably a terrible mafia player because of this, but I kind of have a code of honour lol. I like to think that people would not make such excuses for being absent and such.
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