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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2016 20:50 GMT
#24
I think its pretty fun to push your town game up high as you can and try your damndest to get your scum game to mirror it.

Of course you will have off town games or lower activity town games that make it somewhat easier to fake as scum. Real life does get involved but it feels so good when you have a decent town game that you can emulate as mafia and not hinder town as town becuase you are trying to destroy your meta at the same time.

/in btw.

I think you will have a more difficult time with your scum meta shape just because of the level of involvement you show when youa re town and its so hard to fake. But thats for another time
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2016 21:24 GMT
#42
HTS must be a tad drunk at this point
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2016 23:26 GMT
#66
Hi emperor.

So what are you feeling right now? So much hype has to be a reason for it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 01:38 GMT
#88
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 01:39 GMT
#89
That being said I do have two bad town leans right now.
(Maybe three)
Bad reasoning that hopefully gets good in a few hours
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 02:13 GMT
#91
Well I disagree that I was playing well, adequate would be a better word for it probably.

Do you have any leanings one way or another ls on anyone so far?

Also how many games have you played with snickers?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 02:44 GMT
#93
On July 12 2016 11:17 vorono wrote:
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On July 12 2016 09:57 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"?

i voted you for this post

On July 12 2016 09:48 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:47 vorono wrote:
hey

are you a smurf

no

What's your mafia experience? Why do you wanna play on TL Mafia?

What about that post makes you think emperorchampion is scum?

i've played a bit on other sites.

it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in


Idk his other postings seemed relaxed, though he's ever rolled town to my knowledge.

Meh reading newb problems
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 03:15 GMT
#95
On July 12 2016 11:17 vorono wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 09:57 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"?

i voted you for this post

On July 12 2016 09:48 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:47 vorono wrote:
hey

are you a smurf

no

What's your mafia experience? Why do you wanna play on TL Mafia?

What about that post makes you think emperorchampion is scum?

i've played a bit on other sites.

it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in


Actually could you explain to me a bit more why you think awkward? In the context of there short conversation it feels ok tell me more about what you see.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 03:16 GMT
#96
On July 12 2016 12:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On July 12 2016 11:13 Damdred wrote:
Well I disagree that I was playing well, adequate would be a better word for it probably.

Do you have any leanings one way or another ls on anyone so far?

Also how many games have you played with snickers?

Nothing really atm.
I had played 1 game with Snickers and that was in Office Mini which was a while ago. It was a victory which I was able to convince him it was SL being the last scum over Oats even though he wanted to lynch Oats pretty badly lol.


Hrmmm ok, well what do you think of emperor and pro conversation? Did you see anything interesting?

I know you say you have no reads exactly.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 03:32 GMT
#99
Well I have a little biy of thought earlier.

I though emperor post wasn't bad within the context of the conversation. But I'm curious about how he will act as the day goes along tbh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 04:18 GMT
#101
On July 12 2016 13:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 11:17 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:57 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"?

i voted you for this post

On July 12 2016 09:48 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:47 vorono wrote:
hey

are you a smurf

no

What's your mafia experience? Why do you wanna play on TL Mafia?

What about that post makes you think emperorchampion is scum?

i've played a bit on other sites.

it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in


I dunno if I'm buying your reads. You had the most neutral entry and now this...

Mind linking some previous games?

This wagon could be looking pretty comfy actually


Why exactly? And what else do you think?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 05:42 GMT
#114
If you kids keep it down I'll cross the pond because you don't have enough freedom. Murcia

Anyway, Kush is hard to read super early I think generally. He's low volume some games and just sucks it up early in the game but comes on later. Narrative on Kush.

Hi sky and dc
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 05:45 GMT
#115
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
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On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


Honestly you guys are missing the most important problem with emc post here.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 05:53 GMT
#120
On July 12 2016 14:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 14:45 Damdred wrote:
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


Honestly you guys are missing the most important problem with emc post here.


How can you post that and not tell us what you think we are missing, let's discuss it yo!


The problem is a forced read. In what I quoted it's pointed out a couple of the problems where the thought process doesn't quite meet with reality.

Ie, he did this one game and is doing this here. This sort of logical leap in itself is not a bad one at all, and it is one that someone who's trying to become better should make. And it is a good obaervation.

However as pointed out this change in behavior should be more towards a scum sided or strictly neutral position than a neutral/town. But the read is forced through in an unnatural way to make him hi e town points to prp.

It's semantics a bit but it is trying to give someone a town read just to seem like he's doing something.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 05:54 GMT
#121
On July 12 2016 14:46 Skynx wrote:
Hi damdy how's life?


Pretty good should be asleep playing mafia I stead
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 05:57 GMT
#125
Lol it's on the previous page dc.

His tone seems ok for the most part but I haven't played with him enough to make that sort of call.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 06:04 GMT
#130
On July 12 2016 15:01 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 14:53 Damdred wrote:
On July 12 2016 14:49 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 14:45 Damdred wrote:
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


Honestly you guys are missing the most important problem with emc post here.


How can you post that and not tell us what you think we are missing, let's discuss it yo!


The problem is a forced read. In what I quoted it's pointed out a couple of the problems where the thought process doesn't quite meet with reality.

Ie, he did this one game and is doing this here. This sort of logical leap in itself is not a bad one at all, and it is one that someone who's trying to become better should make. And it is a good obaervation.

However as pointed out this change in behavior should be more towards a scum sided or strictly neutral position than a neutral/town. But the read is forced through in an unnatural way to make him hi e town points to prp.

It's semantics a bit but it is trying to give someone a town read just to seem like he's doing something.


You took what didn't gel in my mind from his post and drew a pretty logical conclusion from it.
I agree, it was a pretty big logical leap that didn't really need to be made.
I am not going to TR anyone this early, game just started!




It almost felt like you were giving me a compliment, we are making tlmafia great again folks.

But yeah ecm definitely needs to flesh it out a bit more and I think he's only played one game with prp so meta isn't a good thing in that case.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 06:08 GMT
#131
On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town?


Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority


Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that.


Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names...
How do you know who is a townie in this game?

Is this a slip?


Generally speaking I don't think slips exist to an extent.

But you dc, you can go in the town pile for actually reading and trying to find something. I like you, you can be my Robin this game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 06:12 GMT
#135
On July 12 2016 15:09 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 15:08 Damdred wrote:
On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town?


Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority


Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that.


Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names...
How do you know who is a townie in this game?

Is this a slip?


Generally speaking I don't think slips exist to an extent.

But you dc, you can go in the town pile for actually reading and trying to find something. I like you, you can be my Robin this game.


Woot, now I just need to make sure that you are really Batman and not the Joker or the Riddler or some shit


Well I have an excellent crowbar that you might have an interest in.

HAHAHA
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 15:16 GMT
#193
Emperor on the surface it is a half meta read from your experience.

But let's leave that for now, can you tell me any other reads or anything at this point? Maybe ls shape?

@LS while I appreciate a healthy amount of fear for my scum game I'm not so sure there is a point in trying to deter everyone from town reading me when I have a decent amount of content for that part of the game. What is your angle in this? What read do you have hidden about me that you haven't shared?

@Shape hi shape
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 16:41 GMT
#243
Shape should of never killed ls in storm rip.

Anyway, I missed you shape it had been so long since we had been together I thought my hi would of conveyed the depth of my emotion to you.

As for this ls vs thread hit fight, idk. It sort of is nai he can do it either way. I have a couple problems with ls though, the general attitude towards me/fear mongering when I think my content/activity far outstrips where I have been in any of my scum games. His approach to the end also bugs me and he feels like he flailing now a bit.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 16:45 GMT
#246
Idk if I could ever keep this level of activity and involvement t up after I rolled back to back scum when a game was aborted. That I put like 1/4 of the time into meh, but that's wifom at best.

I really don't have an opinion on voro I agree with some of his thoughts currently like me and dc being town (yay). Obviously I also think he has something in emc though it's under explained so far.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 16:48 GMT
#249
Though does give me a bit pause that emc is soft pushing ls.

Hrmmm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 17:01 GMT
#256
I will point out that this game is not plurality so there will be no shenanigans we have to decide on a Lynch and not let a no Lynch happens.

And vivax I'm not covering him up, I'm in fact saying I have problems with ls I don't know which way to go with it right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 17:07 GMT
#262
On July 13 2016 01:48 Shapelog wrote:
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On July 13 2016 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Shape should of never killed ls in storm rip.

Anyway, I missed you shape it had been so long since we had been together I thought my hi would of conveyed the depth of my emotion to you.

As for this ls vs thread hit fight, idk. It sort of is nai he can do it either way. I have a couple problems with ls though, the general attitude towards me/fear mongering when I think my content/activity far outstrips where I have been in any of my scum games. His approach to the end also bugs me and he feels like he flailing now a bit.


Yeah, but I did/should of in tortoise, which I did.

You mean last week? that isn't really long. OH, you mean as same alignment? FFS, Am I already Obv town?

If I am I going to be pissed. I need to be scumread to actually get connected.
+ Show Spoiler +
Doesn't matter, I just shoot someone tonight


I mean, about the flailing, it mostly is me trolling him so, and a bit about vivax.


Ok let me help you,

Shape I scum read you with all the power in me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 17:10 GMT
#263
We need roughly 7 people to agree on a Lynch currently for there to be one today.

Unfortunate but yeah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 17:14 GMT
#267
We do obviously we just need to be mindful and organize ourselves around a few people to give a concentrated effort towards that.

Shape what's your opinion on ls in serious thought?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 17:19 GMT
#270
On July 13 2016 02:15 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 13 2016 02:10 Damdred wrote:
We need roughly 7 people to agree on a Lynch currently for there to be one today.

Unfortunate but yeah


This favours town tho no? If mafia want to save someone they will need to pull all their votes on the other candidate.


Majority is slightly scum favored for the most part because if town is dumb no lynches happen.

Either case not much to worry about atm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 18:10 GMT
#290
To emperor im kinda glad isn't expound because on one of them I have a light scum read(you) and prp has slipped back to null.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 18:19 GMT
#294
On July 13 2016 03:13 Vivax wrote:
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On July 13 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote:
LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim?

I didn't call you town I just said I was going to ignore you.


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On July 13 2016 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I am mostly relaxed because Vivax is probably one of the worst players in terms of keeping the same reads over a period of time as he just changes his read every 5 mins.


And you think this is a description of my scum play or my town play?

Your taunts are clearly showing that you were thinking of me as town.


I think vivax you can be town for today.

It's interesting catch so far, though generally as I've said scum slips are kinda meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 18:40 GMT
#298
On July 13 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 03:19 Damdred wrote:
On July 13 2016 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On July 13 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote:
LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim?

I didn't call you town I just said I was going to ignore you.


On July 13 2016 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I am mostly relaxed because Vivax is probably one of the worst players in terms of keeping the same reads over a period of time as he just changes his read every 5 mins.


And you think this is a description of my scum play or my town play?

Your taunts are clearly showing that you were thinking of me as town.


I think vivax you can be town for today.

It's interesting catch so far, though generally as I've said scum slips are kinda meh.


Then maybe stop pretending this is the only argument I'be brought forward. It's number 3 or 4. There's enough material on LS already, and I have a good record of reading him, believe it or not, even when you both faked the rage as scummates I called it out.


How am I pretending anything vivax, I have no stated read on ls in the thread and have listed problems with him. I am not defending him I just don't know what I think yet.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 19:50 GMT
#309
Idk what the point of this is ls if you are town. Vivax accusations are founded on things that actually happened.

If you disagree explain why he's wrong, you throwing a temper tantrum just kinda reminds me of millionaire at this point. No real reason for rage or the sudden turn in attitude from nobody will ever lynch you to you being an easy ml?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 20:16 GMT
#317
It's not your fault shape don't let it get to you,

Ls is honestly going way over the line and I really don't think it has any place here meh.

Anyway idk kinda killed ny mood.

@Shape let's try to keep playing,

I think

Vivax
Shape
Dc

Are my stronger town reads currently.

I think emc could be scum still

That's kind if weak for me,meh

And I have like a million nulls where did I go wrong
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 12 2016 20:59 GMT
#321
Meh ls just go cool off somewhere.

Shape you thunk voir vs emc, is scum v town with emc being town in that situatiin?

Personally I don't think what either did has nuch bearing on the others alignment I think.
Damdred
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July 12 2016 21:14 GMT
#325
On July 13 2016 06:07 Shapelog wrote:
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On July 13 2016 05:59 Damdred wrote:
Meh ls just go cool off somewhere.

Shape you thunk voir vs emc, is scum v town with emc being town in that situatiin?

Personally I don't think what either did has much bearing on the others alignment I think.

I kinda already said what I thought.

I can see (if Voir flips scum) emc as either scum or town depending on how it plays. Voir push so far reminds me of my bus posts that I've done.


I must of missed it or forgotten. I remember those busses of yours rip. Ran out of team mates to kill so just killed townies.

Anyway to your null list it's kinda difficult to see like kels reads were probably the easy reads in the thread at the time.

Idk the whole null list could be lynched into to.
Damdred
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July 12 2016 22:36 GMT
#354
I honestly don't know prp it's kinda frustrating, got any reads currently?

Also vivax I have talked about the reasons I have said ls bothers me, I've agreed with several of your points. I'm just not voting him atm and trying to evaluate others.

And it seems kinda moot atm
Damdred
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July 12 2016 23:21 GMT
#386
On July 13 2016 08:15 Vivax wrote:
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On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town?


Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority


Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that.


Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names...
How do you know who is a townie in this game?

Is this a slip?


This post shows he's reading and thinking between the lines so I'm willing to give DCW a D1 freepass.


I like that we had the same thought process on that post.
Damdred
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July 12 2016 23:28 GMT
#388
God and right when we talk about him he Drelurks.

Just blah paranoia but
Damdred
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July 13 2016 14:40 GMT
#427
I could see a snickers or an emc Lynch today.

I need some coffee
Damdred
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July 13 2016 17:14 GMT
#433
I'm here and feeling slightly better.

Emc I thought earlier you were partially scum reading me? What changed to put me into the no Lynch category
Damdred
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July 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#437
Well scum read is probably to extreme you say at one point you don't know what to make of me, you don't mention me much. Ask a question to me that there isn't much follow-up to and then I'm in your no Lynch list why?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:41 GMT
#464
On July 14 2016 05:21 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 14 2016 04:46 Damdred wrote:
Well scum read is probably to extreme you say at one point you don't know what to make of me, you don't mention me much. Ask a question to me that there isn't much follow-up to and then I'm in your no Lynch list why?


I don't think that you're a good lynch candidate today since you've been pretty active. That's not to say that there are a lot of things that I don't like, especially your soft push of me all game. I think I would def look into it tomorrow though. What I would like to see now is for you, as one of the most experienced players in this game atm, to step up and make some calls and convince me that you aren't just sheeping vivax all game.


I don't think you know what soft pushing is.

I haven't been softly pushing you, I have made known to the thread a few times that I think you are scum. If I was soft pushing you it would be very hidden and I would be pushing suspicion on you without actually saying you are scum.

Neither am I sheeping vivax basically at all, I have my own thoughts and what I feel like is going on. It is documented in my filter.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:43 GMT
#466
Plynching snickers though isn't the worst idea. I was hoping he would show back up and do things.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:48 GMT
#468
We have like an hour to go and still no majority, whether we lynch snickers isn't important or not.

Whats important is we have a lynch today. So if anyone has a strong lynch idea its important that its in thread so we can discuss it and move our votes if need be, but right now a plynch is what we have so we need to make it majority.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:53 GMT
#470
Deciding to town read Vivax,

Telling vivax that I have 100% given my reasons in thread for not liking LS before he complained about me not talking about why i didn't like LS

Commenting that I liked his thought process on a post that I had like an hour into d1 and posted about it before?

Cherry picking from my filter to try to make a montage of posts that seem to be sheeping someone when its just not the case is scummy. And I don't really see the point of it especially when context shows a different side of the story.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:56 GMT
#473
@Prp also I noticed your meta about snickers being more active as town as scum.

I checked his last scum game was like over 2 years ago. I don't think you can drag a useful meta out of that where he would be more active as town now.

How did you come to tis conclussion has he been scum somewhere I haven't seen?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 21:58 GMT
#474
On July 14 2016 06:56 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 06:53 Damdred wrote:
Deciding to town read Vivax,

Telling vivax that I have 100% given my reasons in thread for not liking LS before he complained about me not talking about why i didn't like LS

Commenting that I liked his thought process on a post that I had like an hour into d1 and posted about it before?

Cherry picking from my filter to try to make a montage of posts that seem to be sheeping someone when its just not the case is scummy. And I don't really see the point of it especially when context shows a different side of the story.


I guess I especially don't like the third one since it's such a nebulous reason for town reading someone to me


Nebulous reasons when its firmly stated that he can be town read for actually reading peoples posts and bringing conclusions?

How in the hell is that nebulous?

Also thats quite hypocritical of you when your initial town read of prp was quite... forced to say the least
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:02 GMT
#478
On July 14 2016 06:58 prplhz wrote:
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On July 14 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote:
@Prp also I noticed your meta about snickers being more active as town as scum.

I checked his last scum game was like over 2 years ago. I don't think you can drag a useful meta out of that where he would be more active as town now.

How did you come to tis conclussion has he been scum somewhere I haven't seen?

No, I just checked his database entry, didn't notice his last (and only?) scum game was 2 years ago.


Well he has an hour to wow us anyway,

What do you think about emc? I still think hes scum and hes goign pretty far to try to discredit me at this point.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:04 GMT
#481
On July 14 2016 07:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2016 06:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 14 2016 06:53 Damdred wrote:
Deciding to town read Vivax,

Telling vivax that I have 100% given my reasons in thread for not liking LS before he complained about me not talking about why i didn't like LS

Commenting that I liked his thought process on a post that I had like an hour into d1 and posted about it before?

Cherry picking from my filter to try to make a montage of posts that seem to be sheeping someone when its just not the case is scummy. And I don't really see the point of it especially when context shows a different side of the story.


I guess I especially don't like the third one since it's such a nebulous reason for town reading someone to me


Nebulous reasons when its firmly stated that he can be town read for actually reading peoples posts and bringing conclusions?

How in the hell is that nebulous?

Also thats quite hypocritical of you when your initial town read of prp was quite... forced to say the least


It's because the reason is "he read between the lines". How come a maf member couldn't make those same points, wouldn't it actually be easier for them? I guess I'm salty cause it's the exact same as the argument that so many people have been making about my read against prpl... which wait... there it is again


Your read on Prp was totally forced, and has no logical basis for the jump you took from he was town here and is acting totally different so he must be town here. It makes no sense.

Nothing for mafia is easy, for mafia vivax things are decidely harder given his predisposition. So him actually reading posts and pushing things yeah, hes town.
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:04 GMT
#483
On July 14 2016 07:03 Snickers wrote:
I want to lynch whoever brought my meta up first cause I'm active as scum and town. Looking at post count isn't hard to do.


That would be Prp I think?

How much have you read so far?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:08 GMT
#486
On July 14 2016 07:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Damdred looking scum for his bad read on Ec.

I'm voting snickers.


Whats bad about my read again?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:08 GMT
#487
And why would you vote for someone you think looks like scum?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:08 GMT
#489
vote with someone rather
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:12 GMT
#497
On July 14 2016 07:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On July 14 2016 07:08 Damdred wrote:
And why would you vote for someone you think looks like scum?

If he's scum?
Because he's going to get lunched any way.
For the cred.

If he's town which he probably is?
Because he's town.


i corrected my post above

What i meant to say

Why would you vote with someone you think looks like scum?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:48 GMT
#516
I am here now until eod.

Well he backtracked from his meta read on you also right before you got here when i questioned him about it snickers, what do you think of that
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:55 GMT
#520
On July 14 2016 07:53 Snickers wrote:
I think the backtrack was bad. Cause he "counted wrong" but then dismisses it because it was years ago. Then he also misses the fact that I said I would be here.

Idk he is starting to seem more like a non precise town. I usually see townies being this careless.


So you want to lynch kush now?
Damdred
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July 13 2016 22:59 GMT
#524
We can't no lynch today people consolidate
Damdred
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July 14 2016 23:06 GMT
#575
Other mason should claim,.
Damdred
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July 15 2016 03:13 GMT
#584
Meh tbh I was hoping it would be someone in the Lynch pool.

Well that works tbh
Damdred
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July 16 2016 15:31 GMT
#676
I'm here now, I was pouring the foundation for my new house/digging the foundation and cut my internet lines <<. Weren't marked on property line rip.

Anyway, ec claiming vet is interesting. Like it's one of the most horrible things to claim. Mafia has no reason to shoot him anyway and now they have even less reason to do it.

Idk kinda meh about it.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 15:58 GMT
#677
Important thing is don't claim today if you are a medic or a doctor. We can handle that tommorow we don't have enough time today and ec is afk so would rather both be here.

Snickers catch up posts actually were not bad, a lot of it made a good bit of sense. He is at least reading the game when he basically was almost dead to rights in game. Kind of want to see where he goes from here.

I think it leaves me wanting to Lynch Kel's , this isn't about activity. But the way he has went about things. Like his vote d1 going to Kush from snickers helping a no Lynch was just weird. But then he just left and didn't even pop back in that's bad and Kel is better than that. Idk he hasn't screamed town Kel to me as I've read the pages.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 16:31 GMT
#679
On July 16 2016 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 14 2016 14:14 Skynx wrote:
KSC and emperor explain me concretely why on earth you guys though no lynch is better than Snickers lynch?

On July 14 2016 05:19 DCWasabi wrote:
If nobody else thinks Skynx is scummy I could certainly hop on a Policy Lynch for activity, with Snickers being the obvious candidate so far, followed by that weird Kruppe guy?

Or else, somebody can make a great post and sell me on voro, because I am having trouble reading that guy still.

On lunch break now, be back later.

You as well I guess, why waste your vote since you are aware of it?


To explain what happened EOD, I read over the game and thought that Kush was kind of scummy as was snickers. I believe Snickers was due to not being that active and other people voting him so I wasn't 100% committed to it.

Then Kush made some really scummy post and voted for snickers. I decided that kush would be a better lynch and that kush voting snickers made Snickers more likely town so no lynch would be better than a townie being lynched.

Obviously I was wrong about Kush so Snickers being lynched would have been better but hey ho.


You know as well as I do though Kel it's better to have information and Lynch a townie to see motivations than it is to no Lynch and be stuck in the same scenario as you were in d1.

I mean I do understand that you thought Kush was scummy and the better Lynch but once you saw that it was impossible to Lynch Kush I would expect you to help make sure a Lynch happens.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 16:49 GMT
#681
Atm

Ec has claimed Vet
Vivax wants to vote kup or you
And prp is off somewhere

Vivax might of unvoted already but I think he's decently Towny. Prp idk he's hut or miss to me.

Who would you Lynch Kel?
Damdred
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July 16 2016 16:57 GMT
#682
Like ok, half the thread was afk away so it's a bit hypocritical just to single you out Kel.

So I'll look throughbfilters and see who I want to Lynch atm.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 19:20 GMT
#720
I'm back from foods with the wife.

As for my reads

Town:
Damdred
Vivax
Dc
(Tentative) EC
Shape

Nullish
Sky
Prp
Snickers
Keup

Scummy:
Kel

It's kind of dumb that I have so many nulls. Like skyn is actually looking really good his latest posts so I don't think I want to Lynch him. In fact I might move him up because it looks so much and the tone feels like his town game now. I sort of like that read.

The problem with the others is that I like the thought snickers put into some of the posts and it's probably the work he really didn't have to do if he was getting lynched anyway.

Prp just doesn't seem to care and neither does k.

I think I'd rather Lynch Kel today
Damdred
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July 16 2016 19:29 GMT
#722
Like there's 0 chance I'll let a no Lynch happen in any regard so don't worry about that
Damdred
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July 16 2016 20:19 GMT
#731
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered
Damdred
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July 16 2016 20:31 GMT
#737
On July 17 2016 05:22 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered

Can I bez ur best Friend then?

About Emp, Normally I would agree. But A) I am horrible at telling Balance with Masons being in the game, and B) the close set up got me in a loop. Plus, if we ML, and a CC does happen, It is Lylo on those 2 tomorrow (if I did the math correctly)


Generally speaking Masons are worth like .5 for balance, vets worth one. Another weak role like parity cop is very possible. (A number of like 3 is preferable so .5,.5, 1, 1 would be acceptable in this situation)

In a closed setup the roles aren't that important vet is especially susceptible because how it can't really be confirmed. Which is why we should put it off until tommorow especially if we hit mafia today.

Which I think there is at least one in prp/Kel if not two.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 21:17 GMT
#742
Who would you want to switch h to shape?

Also I saw something interesting g
Damdred
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July 16 2016 21:24 GMT
#744
It's interesting to me that vivax says snickers did enough to buy more time in his book and he sort of says he would want to Lynch ku or Kel but never really unvoted snickers or votes though and didn't do much in that regard.

Kind of an odd thing to me.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 21:26 GMT
#745
Not saying it makes him lock scum or not town read but idk kind of weird to me.
Damdred
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July 16 2016 22:48 GMT
#749
Who all's here
Damdred
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15669 Posts
July 16 2016 22:56 GMT
#753
Everyone being cool and switching to prp lolol
Damdred
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July 16 2016 22:58 GMT
#754
Really don't have the people to do anything and we need to Lynch to happen anyway.
Damdred
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July 17 2016 22:52 GMT
#792
Hi,

Just in case it's me that goes this is how I view the game currently.

Dc and emc are confirmed town at this point nobody has cc and we really don have to many power roles and emc tone seems to suggest he's a power role. Always have a hard time differentiate between scum and pr meh.

Shape, vivax, sky are my strong town reads in thus group. If I'm wrong about anyone it's vivax if I'm fine and he still falls off the world get him, but some of . his posts tonight seem to suggest an ok thought process. I think sky push on knickers felt,genuine and it almost locks him in ny mind never lynch that guy. Shape just tone wise is town plus activity and pushing

Keu is null

Prp is null

Vor is the next scum besides kel

Kel is the scum for me but in case I die don't afk on him, push him prod just don't sleep and afk the lynch,

Kind of a craps list didn't have much time today. But I can take questions.

Also list doesn't denote order of Nullo town.

Also idk about haze because of spotty activity but early tone was good.
Damdred
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July 17 2016 22:58 GMT
#795
I know my activity has sucked tbh, but rl happens meh.

In any case my reads haven't been bad this game I believe.
Damdred
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July 17 2016 23:42 GMT
#811
That's actually not defensive for me,

That's me admitting I've been crap this game but I've had ok reads for the most part.

And for the part where I'm looking to move a lynch it's pretty obvious that there aren't enough people in the thread to do anything but no lynch which I didn't want to happen in any regard.

Lastly I'm,never being lynched Anyway
Damdred
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July 17 2016 23:53 GMT
#815
Why though? It's clear a no lynch was the preferable solution to the scum team.

It's almost guaranteed the wagon was pure d1 I think.

While the principle mafia so read out is generally correct it doesn't hold true in all situations.
Damdred
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July 18 2016 00:23 GMT
#820
On July 18 2016 09:00 prplhz wrote:
I mean, we even no lynched d1 so that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me that mafia would not be on Snickers to ensure a no lynch, when we actually no lynched and when he could even have taken another vote without getting lynched.


If you want to no lynch you can't rely on the unknown.

D1 if kel doesn't switch all it takes is shape showing up and stickers is lynched. Or anyone not being busy.

Scum would want to not consolidate when d1 even if I wasn't particularly sure of stickers either day I'd rather have a lynch than not.

So why am I really scum? Because I'm realistic about my contributions to the game d2?

Anyway never lynching me
Damdred
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July 18 2016 00:24 GMT
#821
On July 18 2016 09:20 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 08:53 Damdred wrote:
Why though? It's clear a no lynch was the preferable solution to the scum team.

It's almost guaranteed the wagon was pure d1 I think.

While the principle mafia so read out is generally correct it doesn't hold true in all situations.

if it's almost guaranteed then why are skynx and i nulls and why did you throw suspicion at vivax


Uhh you claimed cop and sky flipoed? I was hard town reading sky yesterday near eod as well, vivax well I even said I don't know what it makes him.

And then have him as lock town unless x happens.
Damdred
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July 18 2016 00:26 GMT
#822
Oh well I thought I had another post in my filter where I tr sky for basically not letting people shenany near eod.

Damdred
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July 18 2016 00:30 GMT
#823
But I did hard read him town eon
Damdred
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July 18 2016 01:23 GMT
#825
Well I guess that's that.

Damdred
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July 18 2016 01:28 GMT
#828
Gg town, I don't know exactly why snickers would do this.

I think we were in a good position to win and his sac would of been worth it.

One ml and we were in lylo idk, town could of won but with activity think it's doubtful though pro checked amazingly
Damdred
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July 18 2016 01:29 GMT
#829
On July 18 2016 10:26 prplhz wrote:
sorry about this damdred, not sure what's up with tl mafia

i enjoyed the game though


The funniest thing was I was going to cc emc for lolz so one of us could ask to final
Damdred
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July 18 2016 02:02 GMT
#840
His team would of won though easily
Damdred
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July 18 2016 02:06 GMT
#842
I think the setup was pretty neutral.

Town probably was a bit better for roles but the majority vote made it a bit scum favored with activity.

Ty for hosting onegu I'm sorrybit happened like this
Damdred
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July 18 2016 02:45 GMT
#857
Hehe I was getting ready for a parity cop claim by hinting at it yesterday.

But I think we Lynch vor today and then we shoot you prp and then we wifom Lynch Kel/shape
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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July 18 2016 04:21 GMT
#868
I wasn't worried about the missed vote.

Would it or been nice? Yeah another mod kill been great but we were in great position.

I regret this ended this way it is what it is though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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July 18 2016 05:22 GMT
#873
It sucks because been in good position for two games and now all my tricks ruined rip
Damdred
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July 18 2016 05:27 GMT
#876
On July 18 2016 14:25 Skynx wrote:
WTF is wrong with this site...

Idk I've ever had games like this
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