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Vivax
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July 03 2016 15:55 GMT
#77
zing /in
Vivax
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July 03 2016 16:24 GMT
#79
/konfürm

dummkopfs
Vivax
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22089 Posts
July 05 2016 03:23 GMT
#156
On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote:
who are we killing today?


I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria:
1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count.
2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.

1 Skynx
5 DCWasabi
8 Race Bannon
9 VayneAuthority
13 Vivax

These guys are the top candidates right now.


Really kush? The game just started and you use activity to find mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 03:34 GMT
#158
On July 05 2016 12:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 12:23 Vivax wrote:
On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote:
who are we killing today?


I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria:
1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count.
2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.

1 Skynx
5 DCWasabi
8 Race Bannon
9 VayneAuthority
13 Vivax

These guys are the top candidates right now.


Really kush? The game just started and you use activity to find mafia?

I'm not trying to find mafia. I'm trying to find the ideal D1 lynch.

You think the ideal D1 lynch is mafia.
But that's like saying the ideal way of playing poker is to win.


i laughed
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 15:02 GMT
#195
troll palmar best palmar.

If you decide to go leader I'll be a sheep barring any fits of stubborness when I'm sure about something.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 17:30 GMT
#246
On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote:
who are we killing today?


I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria:
1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count.
2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.

1 Skynx
5 DCWasabi
8 Race Bannon
9 VayneAuthority
13 Vivax

These guys are the top candidates right now.


Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game.
I find kush's post interesting...

I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events."

I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going.


Yes its a pretty random list but when the game starts even random stuff matters to get discussion going. At some point this list will mean nothing to kush if it ever did, provided he's town.

Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 17:37 GMT
#249
Palmar what if I told you you're far from a townread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 17:56 GMT
#252
On July 06 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:

While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.


Seriously? It was not good just funny tbh.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 18:01 GMT
#256
tbh i still have no idea what shape actually thinks. Like the part where he jumped from palmar to skynx in his big post. It looks like they are related but they''re not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 18:29 GMT
#260
Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.

You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.

I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 18:36 GMT
#263
I've never tried to meta Palmar, never will lol.

For now I'm just comfy saying that what he's been doing is point fingers everywhere. Doesn't mean much alignment wise.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 05 2016 18:39 GMT
#266
Just leave some time for Koshi, don't tilt him.

Finding it sort of scummy you only talk about him, prpl
Vivax
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July 05 2016 19:11 GMT
#286
Damdred I still don't understand how you formed your kush TR, but my guess is that it's not the same reason VE would mention.

Shape too pointed out how kush played in noir and I'm not going to settle down for you townreading him cause his thought process was good cause?

I think your reasoning there was very lazy. If I can think of a reason to TR kush it's not that his thought process was good.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 10:40 GMT
#373
On July 06 2016 17:08 Palmar wrote:

sicklucker is almost 100% going to flip mafia. Between the amount of people who sound relatively townie and his own complete lack of contributions and "I'm mafia" trolling, there is a very, very real chance he is mafia. He has posted several times in the thread and clearly has nothing to say, so he falls back on "Who are we killing today"? Which is basically a post written for the sole purpose of saying something, anything.


Isn't he talking about an earlier game where he discredited you with Koshi? I dunno why you mistake it with "I'm mafia" stuff.

On July 06 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote:
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On July 06 2016 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Sadness Palmar we always end up at this point now aways it seems. Where did the love go?

But I agree with a couple of your tr so far (Kush and ve). I also just don't get what this nicer angle is on koshi though, like it's not usually till after a Lynch we see what hes like.


palmar called ve scum or bad not town.

NOT READING THREAD MR DANDRED


I found this post townie btw.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 10:45 GMT
#375
On July 06 2016 19:41 sicklucker wrote:
no im like you palmar things that dont really make me want to play came up. but im not bitch enough to complain about it like you


Is this the only post you're going to make now?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 11:17 GMT
#386
I think Palmar, prpl, Race Bannon, Koshi all seem sketchy to me. DC gets a free pass bonus cause he's new, but I was expecting an answer from him,

Koshi cause he actually afked when the pressure went off. I don't think we can write him off as town.
Prpl seems like the suspect to go for most people so if he's mafia he was also being bussed already im pretty sure,

Race cause the entrance when she first pointed at prpl seemed heavily.."political". It looked like she was mimicking most of the town with her opinions. Can't exclude that it's still just her opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 11:19 GMT
#389
Palmar might be doing good or bad. He opens up wagons everywhere which gives info, but I don't like where he opens them, sometimes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
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July 06 2016 11:29 GMT
#396
With the way you play one can only be but waffly. You went full headless chicken mode this day Palmar
Vivax
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July 06 2016 11:52 GMT
#401
I forgot about VA, VE's argument on him is appealing. I can lynch him as well.

On July 06 2016 20:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@vivax, you are referring to palmar's push on koshi and another person im forgetting?
Overconfident, exaggerated, early game reads are standard Palmar.

The SL push is understandable at least, even if you disagree with it.

You don't like DC for a lynch because he's "new." My problem with that is I don't think new people necessarily get easier to read as the game progresses.


Palmar clearly chose to be trolly headless chicken this game. By now he had an argument he was 100% sure on half the player list. So I can't take anything seriously that he says. You will never know if he's lying or telling the truth.
He is capable of actually finding a good argument and sticking to it until the target dies, the "I really want to lynch mafia" type of argument. This is not today's Palmar. I can't give him a TR for how he plays. If anyone thinks he can, he's bad or mafia.

Yea I found the way he talked to Damdred more townie than not, especially if Damdred is townie, which I will assume for now.

As for DC I want him to participate more before attempting to judge. I think he will become easier to read duh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 11:59 GMT
#404
On July 06 2016 20:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 20:17 Vivax wrote:
I think Palmar, prpl, Race Bannon, Koshi all seem sketchy to me. DC gets a free pass bonus cause he's new, but I was expecting an answer from him,

Koshi cause he actually afked when the pressure went off. I don't think we can write him off as town.
Prpl seems like the suspect to go for most people so if he's mafia he was also being bussed already im pretty sure,

Race cause the entrance when she first pointed at prpl seemed heavily.."political". It looked like she was mimicking most of the town with her opinions. Can't exclude that it's still just her opinion.

So you found 4 people to write 1 scummy line about and then made them your main suspects?

For example me. You can say that 1 line about me, which sounds ok in theory, but isn't it just more likely I am town given the 5 reasons you could probably give why I am town.


Do you really think those 4 people are the 4 best lynches for today?


I just have the feeling you are the sort of diplomatic koshi you are when you are mafia, plus you really went lurky mode when all the shitfest with Palmar wore off and it netted you some townreads.

Tell me, are you trying to play nicer?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 12:05 GMT
#407
On July 06 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 20:59 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2016 20:48 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 20:17 Vivax wrote:
I think Palmar, prpl, Race Bannon, Koshi all seem sketchy to me. DC gets a free pass bonus cause he's new, but I was expecting an answer from him,

Koshi cause he actually afked when the pressure went off. I don't think we can write him off as town.
Prpl seems like the suspect to go for most people so if he's mafia he was also being bussed already im pretty sure,

Race cause the entrance when she first pointed at prpl seemed heavily.."political". It looked like she was mimicking most of the town with her opinions. Can't exclude that it's still just her opinion.

So you found 4 people to write 1 scummy line about and then made them your main suspects?

For example me. You can say that 1 line about me, which sounds ok in theory, but isn't it just more likely I am town given the 5 reasons you could probably give why I am town.


Do you really think those 4 people are the 4 best lynches for today?


I just have the feeling you are the sort of diplomatic koshi you are when you are mafia, plus you really went lurky mode when all the shitfest with Palmar wore off and it netted you some townreads.

Tell me, are you trying to play nicer?

No. I play how I like. I am for sure not trying to be nicer.
Maybe trying to be less active. But I was lucky yesterday I had too much fun playing dota/darkest dungeon/clicker heroes and cba with the game due to blatant bm which in retrospect wasn't so bad and normally I wouldn't care about but sometimes I do.


Idk I don't think SL talks to Damdred like "you even reading bro" if he were to be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 12:14 GMT
#409
It's about the tone. I know SL to have a cocky undertone to him when he's town and that was one instance of it I think
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 15:49 GMT
#422
On July 06 2016 04:52 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 03:58 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:47 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote:
I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.


Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.

Which scum games are you checking out?

I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.

No obv town based on tone for me yet.

What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?

Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum.
Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly.
Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.

You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you.


two things stick out here.

One is that the 1st game skynx quotes could be Palmar from this game.
Two is that RBs reply looks like a joke?But the questions leading to it were serious? Why should skynx have given Palmar away? Where is Palmar mafia in RBs opinion?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 16:20 GMT
#424
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.


im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 16:47 GMT
#429
On July 07 2016 01:30 Koshi wrote:
then I am missing your point. What was the point of your initial post?


The point is that an initial buildup of a series of questions to skynx ends up in her blurting out some tinfoil that leads to nowhere and isn't consistent with the rest of her filter? Are her scumreads Palmar and Skynx? It's implied but not verifiable.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 17:42 GMT
#437
On July 07 2016 02:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 01:30 Koshi wrote:
then I am missing your point. What was the point of your initial post?

What do you bother talking to mafia

Also classic mafia reads 101 state that the guy who made an insane tinfoil read is always town

Also he is probably town

Vivas on he other hand is so scummy i might lynch him over sl


That wasn't an insane tinfoil read. It was just tinfoil, without read, without outcome.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 17:51 GMT
#442
Nobody still seems to have realized that SL has never been trolling about him being mafia, but Palmar claimed he did.

Even Koshi called it something along of "Palmar pointing out a scumslip".

What SL did was talking about him-as mafia-in an earlier game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 17:59 GMT
#447
On July 07 2016 02:57 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:51 Vivax wrote:
Nobody still seems to have realized that SL has never been trolling about him being mafia, but Palmar claimed he did.

Even Koshi called it something along of "Palmar pointing out a scumslip".

What SL did was talking about him-as mafia-in an earlier game.

The scumslip Koshi talked about was sicklucker saying "He should appear town to you" instead of "He should appear town to us" or something like that.

I don't buy it but Koshi made a big deal out of it.


What's your take on VA? Currently the guys voting him are the only ones I'm comfy being on a wagon with.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:06 GMT
#453
On July 07 2016 03:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
how do you have a town read on sicklurker bAziNga, that seems Fabios Fabricated


I thought you weren't sure of him being mafia :>
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:09 GMT
#455
On July 07 2016 03:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
well I mean he should literally be neutral for everyone unless im missing something

Convince me you weren't posturing there


If you claim that everyone calling him mafia is posturing as well, I will try.

Cause he should be neutral to them as well right?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:20 GMT
#467
On July 07 2016 03:18 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:59 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:57 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:51 Vivax wrote:
Nobody still seems to have realized that SL has never been trolling about him being mafia, but Palmar claimed he did.

Even Koshi called it something along of "Palmar pointing out a scumslip".

What SL did was talking about him-as mafia-in an earlier game.

The scumslip Koshi talked about was sicklucker saying "He should appear town to you" instead of "He should appear town to us" or something like that.

I don't buy it but Koshi made a big deal out of it.


What's your take on VA? Currently the guys voting him are the only ones I'm comfy being on a wagon with.

Not really anything. Him and sicklucker, I don't have much opinion about.

Why are you more comfortable with VisceraEyes and sicklucker over Koshi and Palmar?


Didn't see the surefire town Koshi behaviour, but I saw likely SL town behaviour.
And Palmar don't even get me started on Palmar he should be vigged.

I can't read VE for shit but if I had to choose my leader this game it would be VE, not Palmar. Less destructive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:34 GMT
#474
huh who's defending SL?I'm currently the only one afaik
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:41 GMT
#483
I kinda want SL to flip now just so I can be condescending towards certain people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:42 GMT
#484
^ that assuming he flips town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:50 GMT
#490
On July 07 2016 03:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:45 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:41 Vivax wrote:
I kinda want SL to flip now just so I can be condescending towards certain people.

Like 3-4 people thought he could be mafia.


btw some1 asked me who defended sicklucker and I think Brannon did as well.

and those people you think are mafia...


I kinda liked how you pointed out the post by Wasabi being townie, didn't seem like something you had to do in that situation, if mafia.

I still have a ton of people I can't add to townpile.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:52 GMT
#495
On July 07 2016 03:46 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.


im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.

1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works.
Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this.
2. Watch the pronoun


You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 18:58 GMT
#498
On July 07 2016 03:55 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:52 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:46 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 07 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.


im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.

1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works.
Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this.
2. Watch the pronoun


You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.

What point was that?


That his meta analysis was too complex to come from town? (I guess?)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:12 GMT
#503
When I go back to DCWs first post I wanna scumread him.
Which is the original reason I asked him about it.

And he never replied which really grinds my gears.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:14 GMT
#504
Maybe it's just Palmar prpl and DCW and Palmar is full nutso mode (vig him if you can) cause he feels his team is so underwhelming.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:17 GMT
#507
On July 07 2016 04:15 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:58 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:55 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:52 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:46 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 07 2016 01:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote:
RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.


im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.

1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works.
Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this.
2. Watch the pronoun


You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.

What point was that?


That his meta analysis was too complex to come from town? (I guess?)

I didn't say it was too complex for town. Trying to put myself in the position of meta diving, I surely would've done a lousier job though, especially on my tablet.


Let me be very blunt.

Were you suspicious of Skynch when you wrote that post?
Were you suspicious of Palmar when you wrote that post?

Was that post intended to express an opinion at all?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:22 GMT
#512
You're a confusing person Race.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:27 GMT
#515
On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote:
You are right, I didn't reply to this:
"Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much."

No, I have never played forum Mafia before.

And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going.


You did NOT believe that kush's post would help discerning his alignment? You only posted it to gauge reactions?

A lot of reactions were gauged even without your post, but they seem to be unimportant to you. VE (and I think Palmar) gave him a townread, Koshi called it null, I criticized it without guessing the alignment. Not the post you actually quote but the followup.

Anyway,

you completely dropped your own post afterwards when you voted prpl.

Did you actually gain info from that post and if yes, what?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:35 GMT
#522
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.

(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.

The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:38 GMT
#526
On July 07 2016 04:36 DCWasabi wrote:
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On July 07 2016 04:27 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote:
You are right, I didn't reply to this:
"Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much."

No, I have never played forum Mafia before.

And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going.


You did NOT believe that kush's post would help discerning his alignment? You only posted it to gauge reactions?

A lot of reactions were gauged even without your post, but they seem to be unimportant to you. VE (and I think Palmar) gave him a townread, Koshi called it null, I criticized it without guessing the alignment. Not the post you actually quote but the followup.

Anyway,

you completely dropped your own post afterwards when you voted prpl.

Did you actually gain info from that post and if yes, what?


No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard.

I need to go now.
I am happy with my contribution/vote for this deadline.

Cya later.


That's not the question.

I asked you if you BELIEVED that you were onto something.

Cause it makes a difference in how I treat the fact that you tread so lightly in judging kush and that you overexplain the reason why you quote that post by using the guide.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:40 GMT
#527
Or better, that was only the last question you answered. But what I just mentioned feels as important to me.
Cause that post was extremely polished.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:49 GMT
#531
Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:51 GMT
#533
On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote:
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On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.

(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.

The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive.

Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town.

I am a good guy you know.


Nah I'm awful at reading VE and don't want to lynch him while the others are alive.

I'm also awful at reading prplhz actually. Can't count the times I've scumread him as town.

But I'd feel worse MLing VE than MLing prplhz (no offense bro).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 19:58 GMT
#537
I'll also lynch SL if only to find out if I can flak certain people or have to deal with flak for not scumreading him.

Both are better than the uncentainty I'm in now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 20:01 GMT
#538
I just voted prplhz.

Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 20:11 GMT
#545
On July 07 2016 05:04 Shapelog wrote:
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On July 06 2016 19:54 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax its your job tomorrow to make the stupid town not lynch me on day 1. Like how I make the stupid towns not lynch you on day 1. gl

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On July 06 2016 20:17 sicklucker wrote:
yes the vote is today. kush your like my only town read. you better not vote me day 1. thats taking out the trash day

23 mins, no post from Vivax in between..

So I suppose SL doesn't TR the guy he asks to save his arse, yet town reads Kush for maybe emotional effect? Seriously, How does SL ask Vivax to protect him, and then Kush is his only TR? And Vobby was soft defending him at that point at well.

Urg, I want to vig shot like 3 people, if not 4.


He tries to save me from getting D1 lynched in most games so that's his reason for saying that.

It doesn't mean he needs to have a read on me, even though you could think that if you didn't know the history.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:07 GMT
#593
I wanna go voting bloc mode with Koshi and Damdred atm, just us three can really decide the lynch and I'm feeling comfy thinking you're town.

So I'll start following Koshi onto SL.

##Vote SL
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:09 GMT
#596
Just Skynx is not something I'm comfy lynching cause he's as null as it gets. I didn't even try to decide what he is I just let him slide and like believing he's town, kinda. Laziness.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:31 GMT
#628
Kush what are you doing exactly besides staying on a wagon that is going nowhere and talking about stuff that seems random to me? (Like prpl being the most mislynched player doesn't help anyone, do you have any argument for him being either M or T?)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:33 GMT
#632
On July 07 2016 06:30 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax, Palmar, Damdred, Koshi

Like this is fucking absurd. I expect the newbies to be voting me not you guys


The main reason I'm doing it is to vote with my townreads (Palmar is apparently just following me around with the vote so that's the xception) and cause I got a lot of flak for defending you and I want to know what's behind that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:45 GMT
#669
Im ready to switch, let's do Vayne?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:48 GMT
#685
On July 07 2016 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
dont vote vayne you pussys. vote dandred or palmar or vivax they are more likely mafia. maybe even koshi


This is never going to happen surely you should have this much common sense?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:49 GMT
#691
Vayne you may claim if you have a role
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:51 GMT
#698
On July 07 2016 06:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm trying to save our claimed blue I mean VA is a null read for me I just don't want the blue to die tbh and unless we move to haze who I don't want to Lynch it's our option today.


he claimed blue doesn't mean he is blue you know.

Every mafia that didn't claim vanilla will claim blue in a setup like this, unless bad
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 21:52 GMT
#700
and if you didn't notice I'm not ready to switch, changed my mind
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 23:16 GMT
#786
Prplhz answer me this please.

How did you get from VE to a guy he's voting when you were super sure of SL being scum previously?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 23:33 GMT
#790
On July 07 2016 08:29 prplhz wrote:
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On July 07 2016 08:16 Vivax wrote:
Prplhz answer me this please.

How did you get from VE to a guy he's voting when you were super sure of SL being scum previously?

To save sicklucker.


nothing there that should make him confirmed town to you. Claiming 1-shot-roles is the safest claim mafia can make. So I don't see how you would have the confidence he's town so suddenly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 06 2016 23:57 GMT
#795

Something happened and Palmar lost some of his will to play. VisceraEyes has no such excuse.


What's the excuse for Palmar that nobody except you has heard of ?

Why is he confirmed and I'm mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 07 2016 00:15 GMT
#797
Yea I missed that thing, makes me curious what killed his will there. It's pretty unpalmaresque
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 07 2016 13:48 GMT
#804
4 hours since your post VE and I don't really see you playing
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 07 2016 20:10 GMT
#826
I dont feel like Race tried to feign usefulness. I imagine EoD mafia would be more lurky and not try to be obviously disinterested. But maybe I'm wrong.

VE really gained some scumlevels lately. He started off seemingly interested and engaged, now he's not even close. Just promising stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
July 08 2016 21:47 GMT
#999
Welp this is sad. Damdy and race played too well to deserve this, but I hope most can take the mattchew 2.0 blooper lightly.
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