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On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now. Really kush? The game just started and you use activity to find mafia? | ||
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On July 05 2016 12:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I'm not trying to find mafia. I'm trying to find the ideal D1 lynch. You think the ideal D1 lynch is mafia. But that's like saying the ideal way of playing poker is to win. i laughed | ||
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If you decide to go leader I'll be a sheep barring any fits of stubborness when I'm sure about something. | ||
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On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote: Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game. I find kush's post interesting... I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events." I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going. Yes its a pretty random list but when the game starts even random stuff matters to get discussion going. At some point this list will mean nothing to kush if it ever did, provided he's town. Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much. | ||
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On July 06 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote: While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him. Seriously? It was not good just funny tbh. | ||
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You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts. I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence. | ||
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For now I'm just comfy saying that what he's been doing is point fingers everywhere. Doesn't mean much alignment wise. | ||
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Finding it sort of scummy you only talk about him, prpl | ||
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Shape too pointed out how kush played in noir and I'm not going to settle down for you townreading him cause his thought process was good cause? I think your reasoning there was very lazy. If I can think of a reason to TR kush it's not that his thought process was good. | ||
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On July 06 2016 17:08 Palmar wrote: sicklucker is almost 100% going to flip mafia. Between the amount of people who sound relatively townie and his own complete lack of contributions and "I'm mafia" trolling, there is a very, very real chance he is mafia. He has posted several times in the thread and clearly has nothing to say, so he falls back on "Who are we killing today"? Which is basically a post written for the sole purpose of saying something, anything. Isn't he talking about an earlier game where he discredited you with Koshi? I dunno why you mistake it with "I'm mafia" stuff. On July 06 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote: palmar called ve scum or bad not town. NOT READING THREAD MR DANDRED I found this post townie btw. | ||
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On July 06 2016 19:41 sicklucker wrote: no im like you palmar things that dont really make me want to play came up. but im not bitch enough to complain about it like you Is this the only post you're going to make now? | ||
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Koshi cause he actually afked when the pressure went off. I don't think we can write him off as town. Prpl seems like the suspect to go for most people so if he's mafia he was also being bussed already im pretty sure, Race cause the entrance when she first pointed at prpl seemed heavily.."political". It looked like she was mimicking most of the town with her opinions. Can't exclude that it's still just her opinion. | ||
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On July 06 2016 20:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @vivax, you are referring to palmar's push on koshi and another person im forgetting? Overconfident, exaggerated, early game reads are standard Palmar. The SL push is understandable at least, even if you disagree with it. You don't like DC for a lynch because he's "new." My problem with that is I don't think new people necessarily get easier to read as the game progresses. Palmar clearly chose to be trolly headless chicken this game. By now he had an argument he was 100% sure on half the player list. So I can't take anything seriously that he says. You will never know if he's lying or telling the truth. He is capable of actually finding a good argument and sticking to it until the target dies, the "I really want to lynch mafia" type of argument. This is not today's Palmar. I can't give him a TR for how he plays. If anyone thinks he can, he's bad or mafia. Yea I found the way he talked to Damdred more townie than not, especially if Damdred is townie, which I will assume for now. As for DC I want him to participate more before attempting to judge. I think he will become easier to read duh | ||
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On July 06 2016 20:48 Koshi wrote: So you found 4 people to write 1 scummy line about and then made them your main suspects? For example me. You can say that 1 line about me, which sounds ok in theory, but isn't it just more likely I am town given the 5 reasons you could probably give why I am town. Do you really think those 4 people are the 4 best lynches for today? I just have the feeling you are the sort of diplomatic koshi you are when you are mafia, plus you really went lurky mode when all the shitfest with Palmar wore off and it netted you some townreads. Tell me, are you trying to play nicer? | ||
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On July 06 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote: No. I play how I like. I am for sure not trying to be nicer. Maybe trying to be less active. But I was lucky yesterday I had too much fun playing dota/darkest dungeon/clicker heroes and cba with the game due to blatant bm which in retrospect wasn't so bad and normally I wouldn't care about but sometimes I do. Idk I don't think SL talks to Damdred like "you even reading bro" if he were to be mafia. | ||
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On July 06 2016 04:52 Race Bannon wrote: You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you. two things stick out here. One is that the 1st game skynx quotes could be Palmar from this game. Two is that RBs reply looks like a joke?But the questions leading to it were serious? Why should skynx have given Palmar away? Where is Palmar mafia in RBs opinion? | ||
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On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote: RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT. im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter. | ||
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On July 07 2016 01:30 Koshi wrote: then I am missing your point. What was the point of your initial post? The point is that an initial buildup of a series of questions to skynx ends up in her blurting out some tinfoil that leads to nowhere and isn't consistent with the rest of her filter? Are her scumreads Palmar and Skynx? It's implied but not verifiable. | ||
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On July 07 2016 02:31 Palmar wrote: What do you bother talking to mafia Also classic mafia reads 101 state that the guy who made an insane tinfoil read is always town Also he is probably town Vivas on he other hand is so scummy i might lynch him over sl That wasn't an insane tinfoil read. It was just tinfoil, without read, without outcome. | ||
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Even Koshi called it something along of "Palmar pointing out a scumslip". What SL did was talking about him-as mafia-in an earlier game. | ||
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On July 07 2016 02:57 prplhz wrote: The scumslip Koshi talked about was sicklucker saying "He should appear town to you" instead of "He should appear town to us" or something like that. I don't buy it but Koshi made a big deal out of it. What's your take on VA? Currently the guys voting him are the only ones I'm comfy being on a wagon with. | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:02 VayneAuthority wrote: how do you have a town read on sicklurker bAziNga, that seems Fabios Fabricated I thought you weren't sure of him being mafia :> | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:07 VayneAuthority wrote: well I mean he should literally be neutral for everyone unless im missing something Convince me you weren't posturing there If you claim that everyone calling him mafia is posturing as well, I will try. Cause he should be neutral to them as well right? | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:18 prplhz wrote: Not really anything. Him and sicklucker, I don't have much opinion about. Why are you more comfortable with VisceraEyes and sicklucker over Koshi and Palmar? Didn't see the surefire town Koshi behaviour, but I saw likely SL town behaviour. And Palmar don't even get me started on Palmar he should be vigged. I can't read VE for shit but if I had to choose my leader this game it would be VE, not Palmar. Less destructive. | ||
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I kinda liked how you pointed out the post by Wasabi being townie, didn't seem like something you had to do in that situation, if mafia. I still have a ton of people I can't add to townpile. | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:46 Race Bannon wrote: 1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works. Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this. 2. Watch the pronoun You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx. | ||
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That his meta analysis was too complex to come from town? (I guess?) | ||
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Which is the original reason I asked him about it. And he never replied which really grinds my gears. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:15 Race Bannon wrote: I didn't say it was too complex for town. Trying to put myself in the position of meta diving, I surely would've done a lousier job though, especially on my tablet. Let me be very blunt. Were you suspicious of Skynch when you wrote that post? Were you suspicious of Palmar when you wrote that post? Was that post intended to express an opinion at all? | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote: You are right, I didn't reply to this: "Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much." No, I have never played forum Mafia before. And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going. You did NOT believe that kush's post would help discerning his alignment? You only posted it to gauge reactions? A lot of reactions were gauged even without your post, but they seem to be unimportant to you. VE (and I think Palmar) gave him a townread, Koshi called it null, I criticized it without guessing the alignment. Not the post you actually quote but the followup. Anyway, you completely dropped your own post afterwards when you voted prpl. Did you actually gain info from that post and if yes, what? | ||
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(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz. The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:36 DCWasabi wrote: No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard. I need to go now. I am happy with my contribution/vote for this deadline. Cya later. That's not the question. I asked you if you BELIEVED that you were onto something. Cause it makes a difference in how I treat the fact that you tread so lightly in judging kush and that you overexplain the reason why you quote that post by using the guide. | ||
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Cause that post was extremely polished. | ||
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Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work? | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote: Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town. I am a good guy you know. Nah I'm awful at reading VE and don't want to lynch him while the others are alive. I'm also awful at reading prplhz actually. Can't count the times I've scumread him as town. But I'd feel worse MLing VE than MLing prplhz (no offense bro). | ||
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Both are better than the uncentainty I'm in now. | ||
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Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:04 Shapelog wrote: 23 mins, no post from Vivax in between.. So I suppose SL doesn't TR the guy he asks to save his arse, yet town reads Kush for maybe emotional effect? Seriously, How does SL ask Vivax to protect him, and then Kush is his only TR? And Vobby was soft defending him at that point at well. Urg, I want to vig shot like 3 people, if not 4. He tries to save me from getting D1 lynched in most games so that's his reason for saying that. It doesn't mean he needs to have a read on me, even though you could think that if you didn't know the history. | ||
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So I'll start following Koshi onto SL. ##Vote SL | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:30 sicklucker wrote: Vivax, Palmar, Damdred, Koshi Like this is fucking absurd. I expect the newbies to be voting me not you guys The main reason I'm doing it is to vote with my townreads (Palmar is apparently just following me around with the vote so that's the xception) and cause I got a lot of flak for defending you and I want to know what's behind that. | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:45 sicklucker wrote: dont vote vayne you pussys. vote dandred or palmar or vivax they are more likely mafia. maybe even koshi This is never going to happen surely you should have this much common sense? | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:51 Damdred wrote: I'm trying to save our claimed blue I mean VA is a null read for me I just don't want the blue to die tbh and unless we move to haze who I don't want to Lynch it's our option today. he claimed blue doesn't mean he is blue you know. Every mafia that didn't claim vanilla will claim blue in a setup like this, unless bad | ||
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How did you get from VE to a guy he's voting when you were super sure of SL being scum previously? | ||
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nothing there that should make him confirmed town to you. Claiming 1-shot-roles is the safest claim mafia can make. So I don't see how you would have the confidence he's town so suddenly. | ||
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Something happened and Palmar lost some of his will to play. VisceraEyes has no such excuse. What's the excuse for Palmar that nobody except you has heard of ? Why is he confirmed and I'm mafia? | ||
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VE really gained some scumlevels lately. He started off seemingly interested and engaged, now he's not even close. Just promising stuff. | ||
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