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Also I am more than aware that North Americans have some major holidays coming up in the next week - I will definitely be watching the calendar and starting the game on a day that won't mess with people's holidays with EoD, etc. Huh? What holidays? | ||
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Your Dots make me feel like I should know something Yet don't. Seriously, What Holidays? | ||
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Just me, I am ENFP/The Healer arch. type. For example, I still worry about Breske, since he never came back, and just left 2 games. Would love for Giyga Khan to come back, etc. Also, I saw his last post, and talked somewhat to him in the NSM XX Obs thread (if memory serves me right) and he was somewhat mad, and his last post (Please delete me, Life was banned) just made me want to help. Also I kinda wanted to play with him, which I never was able too. | ||
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On June 27 2016 05:42 Half the Sky wrote: I know you are still in university, do you not have off for the 4th of July (and in the case of Canada, Canada Day which I think is the 1st) if you are in the summer term? Even in the summer term in US schools, (I thought????) people still get off for the 4th. Unless you are working or something...but generically speaking it's a national holiday. Oh July 4th! That is why. See In NC, with Fireworks being banned, and not really any real sense of a celebration, I rarely remember the 4th at all. Besides, I and my family always has been more concerned with National Vet/Memorial day. I actually really cannot remember ever actually having like a major party or anything like that ever for the 4th. I didn't sign up for any summer sessions right now (I mean, I still am working on some college stuff, If I feel like it) due to me wanting to come back to my hometown (I cannot really explain to you how much it has driven me crazy, even tho I am less then 2 hours away) for a while, and just a break honestly. My next real class isn't till August 29th. | ||
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On June 27 2016 07:02 disformation wrote: That kinda might explain, why I have trouble reading you. ISTJ here. xD LOL, Yeah being ISTJ Might have something to do with that ^^! I mean, if we were too roll scum together, that would be one strong team. So you should /in! On June 27 2016 07:09 scott31337 wrote: I was thinking "US" in your profile was a lie, or something really off course. Nah, I just really never cared about the 4th of July. Besides, it really isn't even the true independence day anyways. | ||
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On June 27 2016 09:49 sicklucker wrote: oh ya i forgot about that. breske might be dead... did anyone like the host ever talk to him? Damdred Pmed him (since he was looking for ban for being afk, IIRC) and never got anything back. On June 27 2016 20:22 Half the Sky wrote: I really hope this isn't the case but I did go back to his final post on TL mafia - and TL altogether. It was a question aimed at someone in Shinmegami mafia and that was it, he was blue, afked for 72 hours and he was mislynched/endgamed. And he hasn't posted on TL since. I know he was a dota player at one point so he definitely has a Steam account. Anyone had him on Steam - unfortunately I didn't, and I don't recall him being in the TL mafia Steam group either. (edit: literally this, and nothing else since in any part of TL) I still remember my first mafia game here. NSM4, October 2014 and it was Breshke and myself as townies in 2:1 lylo. After batsnacks hammered himself too... He was also in Cell mafia 3 (millionaire), where the same thing basically happened. I have no idea how to contact him, I mean, unless someone has like skype or steam, there isn't a way too I suppose. Has he done it before? I remember peeps talking about him coming back after a hiatus, and while it would be strange for him to disperse, it could make sense given a RL event. Didn't he work as a night guard btw? | ||
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On June 27 2016 20:54 Half the Sky wrote: For a split second I considered he was an international student in the US, could have been a possibility. FWIW, I'm ESTJ...*shrug* I wouldn't mind being a international student tbh. Seems like a cool background, tho I do like mine. Well ESTJ isn't the polar opposite (basically) of ENFP. Like, You can somewhat understand me, He on the other hand.... well, Just look at his read history on me from Ob's threads. + Show Spoiler [BTW If u do not understand what the he…] + Incase you do not understand wth ENFP/ESTJ/ISTJ etc. is referring to. It is referring to results from the personality test Known as MBTI. It determines who you are by figuring out if your inventive or observant, etc. Here the link to mine type, https://www.16personalities.com/enfp-strengths-and-weaknesses Which really is see through mine mafia play-style  | ||
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On June 29 2016 17:07 disformation wrote: edit: Not sure if I want to join this, DL is just a tad late for me. Though I guess I could manage, since I have flexible work times... This is his way of /ining! debating weather or not to join a game! Don't be like the rest sky! see past the written, and into the facts! | ||
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On July 01 2016 06:42 Half the Sky wrote: Ah Shapelog, it won't happen. I see past the written alright, but it's because we game/speak a bit outside mafia, he cannot play. He wasn't sure at first. But he can't now. But it's okay. Like he did in Haunted Mansion....he'll be sitting on the sideline, rooting for the mafia (as well he should in this case) as he'll take down a Paulaner or something every time the mafia manage a mislynch xD Can't blame him, and might join him... | ||
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On July 04 2016 03:49 Race Bannon wrote: /bestätigt Good luck to Rels' and Palmar's teams. May the worthiest win. ![[image loading]](http://rs11.pbsrc.com/albums/a159/Kyronae/GIFS/BadassDoctor.gif~c200) | ||
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On July 05 2016 07:52 prplhz wrote: Either I forgot all I knew about mafia or I never knew anything in the first place. How do you find scum? You open your role PM, click the link to your mafia qt, and then scroll down to see the other team mates. | ||
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On July 05 2016 07:03 Koshi wrote: I think I am going to play normal this game. But I am not going to push anybody D1. No Day 1 lynching me based off of a meta point that I did? ![[image loading]](http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/TheSyxx66/media/Tumblr%20Gifs/MyGodThatsAmazing.gif.html) On July 05 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote: No beer bottle is greener than my role. Cool story bro. That all? | ||
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So, Shapelog, How is life? Great mostly. Been having showers come in and go, so it isn't too bad. Day was pretty fun, went to the mall etc. Hbu? | ||
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On July 05 2016 08:13 Shapelog wrote: Great mostly. Been having showers come in and go, so it isn't too bad. Day was pretty fun, went to the mall etc. Hbu? Nm tbh. Been playing some Civ 5, waiting for the next one to come out. Its been sunny here for the most part. I did however run into a man dressed also as Hulk Hogan today. Wasn't nearly as racist though, though, tbf, the original one wasn't that Racist either. Brother. | ||
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On July 05 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote: I'm going to choke slam you through a table shape. Hi btw ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LsTk2Fd.gif) Hi Damdred. On July 05 2016 08:30 Palmar wrote: Civ5 is great Best way to play: Small map Quick play All settings random Random civ All victories That way you can get through a game in like one sitting (2 hours or so) It depends on who you play with. With Friends via lan. I like playing a slightly longer game if time permits it. Through if I am just playing for the hell of it, I typically have it long play. Just because I like it taking long to build units, which in turn, makes it more focus on unit micro then just "I can build X in 1 turn, why should I care about if I lose it or not? On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now. Hi Kush. U going to lead P lynches again aren't you? Kush should also be on your lynch list." | ||
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On July 05 2016 14:34 prplhz wrote: Dunno that's as good a starting point as anything else isn't it? You seem upset about being on a list though. Might come back to this post, but what I am thinking is prob. a null point anyways. On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote: Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game. I find kush's post interesting... I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events." I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going. Nope. See, Random lists refers more to a random list of reads that just came out of no where. Basically, let's say I am talking about fish, and then I just drop a read list out of no where. Where did that come from? It doesn't line up with my mindset (talking about fish) at the time, and therefore, is sus. that I jump from fish to reads. Now if I was talking about leaving for the day, posted some content posts (X did this, blah blah blah) and then posted a read list, it makes sense that I would post a read list. But really, you should pay more attention to what they post in the read list, then the timing IMO. Also what Koshi said in the next post about kush, I can back. On July 05 2016 14:34 prplhz wrote: Dunno that's as good a starting point as anything else isn't it? You seem upset about being on a list though. Might come back to this post, but what I am thinking is prob. a null point anyways. On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote: Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game. I find kush's post interesting... I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events." I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going. Nope. See, Random lists refers more to a random list of reads that just came out of no where. Basically, let's say I am talking about fish, and then I just drop a read list out of no where. Where did that come from? It doesn't line up with my mindset (talking about fish) at the time, and therefore, is sus. that I jump from fish to reads. Now if I was talking about leaving for the day, posted some content posts (X did this, blah blah blah) and then posted a read list, it makes sense that I would post a read list. But really, you should pay more attention to what they post in the read list, then the timing IMO. Also what Koshi said in the next post about kush, I can back. On July 05 2016 14:34 prplhz wrote: Dunno that's as good a starting point as anything else isn't it? You seem upset about being on a list though. Might come back to this post, but what I am thinking is prob. a null point anyways. [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 19:07 Skynx wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?[/QUOTE] I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now.[/QUOTE] Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game. I find kush's post interesting... I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events." I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going. [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 18:03 Race Bannon wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 14:34 prplhz wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 12:23 Vivax wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?[/QUOTE] I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now.[/QUOTE] Really kush? The game just started and you use activity to find mafia?[/QUOTE] Dunno that's as good a starting point as anything else isn't it? You seem upset about being on a list though.[/QUOTE] I'm upset + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dNbP1Bp.gif) I'm not. #Feminism [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 18:40 Race Bannon wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 18:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Koshi teaching life lessons even when he don't know wtf goin on. Sounds Koshi.[/QUOTE] Can you confirm what he said about kush's intro being null? It's an okayish way to gauge reactions I suppose.[/QUOTE] I mean it can mean many things, and while I am not koshi (or ve), and he should explain it (which he prob did) I can say why I agree with that point of it being null. It is null (maybe even slightly townie come to think about it) because he always tries to lay a D1 P-lynch (policy lynch) or something along those lines. And activity (or lack of) = A P-lynch basically, as you are lynching them on the Policy of not hitting the activity policy. He has done it in all the games mostly that I have played with him, and I think in his 1 scum game I played vs him. Since he does it across the board, it is null. Kinda wondering why you pick up after Wasbi about it, but I finish reading before I pump out the bad reasoning. [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 19:07 Skynx wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 16:00 DCWasabi wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?[/QUOTE] I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now.[/QUOTE] Guys, as a newbie I read "A General Guide to Mafia" prior to joining this game. I find kush's post interesting... I am going to quote the amazing guide, here: "In order to blend in with the town, mafia need to appear to be interested in the town agenda. Thus, they may often feign usefulness while contributing nothing of value to the discussion. This allows the mafia to appear pro-town without compromising the mafia agenda. Methods that mafia employ to do this include: rephrasing old arguments, posting random lists of people (town or scum), or summarizing recent events." I would like to hear the opinions of some of our more veteran players here; does this post fit the description of a random list? I don't see how activity is relevant when the game literally just started. It is the 4th of July here in the states and I just got home to see that the game is going. [/QUOTE] Hiding behind Incognito guide man bad idea[/QUOTE] You could say, he is trying to be INCOGNITO by using that guide. [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 19:35 Palmar wrote: Koshi is 100% mafia I'm never unvoting.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.[/QUOTE] Why am I getting Dig a vu from this? It is almost like, if my memory doesn't fail me, you did this in your last game as well. Need to check, but I do remember something along those lines. [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 19:42 Skynx wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 07:58 Shapelog wrote: [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 07:03 Koshi wrote: I think I am going to play normal this game. But I am not going to push anybody D1. [/QUOTE] No Day 1 lynching me based off of a meta point that I did? [img]http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/TheSyxx66/media/Tumblr%20Gifs/MyGodThatsAmazing.gif.html[/img] [QUOTE]On July 05 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote: No beer bottle is greener than my role.[/QUOTE] Cool story bro. That all?[/QUOTE] Yeah, thought I'd just make it easier for everyone.[/QUOTE] Actually you help us none so ever. 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Might come back to this post, but what I am thinking is prob. a null point anyways. Nope. See, Random lists refers more to a random list of reads that just came out of no where. Basically, let's say I am talking about fish, and then I just drop a read list out of no where. Where did that come from? It doesn't line up with my mindset (talking about fish) at the time, and therefore, is sus. that I jump from fish to reads. Now if I was talking about leaving for the day, posted some content posts (X did this, blah blah blah) and then posted a read list, it makes sense that I would post a read list. But really, you should pay more attention to what they post in the read list, then the timing IMO. Also what Koshi said in the next post about kush, I can back. I'm not. #Feminism I mean it can mean many things, and while I am not koshi (or ve), and he should explain it (which he prob did) I can say why I agree with that point of it being null. It is null (maybe even slightly townie come to think about it) because he always tries to lay a D1 P-lynch (policy lynch) or something along those lines. And activity (or lack of) = A P-lynch basically, as you are lynching them on the Policy of not hitting the activity policy. He has done it in all the games mostly that I have played with him, and I think in his 1 scum game I played vs him. Since he does it across the board, it is null. Kinda wondering why you pick up after Wasbi about it, but I finish reading before I pump out the bad reasoning. You could say, he is trying to be INCOGNITO by using that guide. Why am I getting Dig a vu from this? It is almost like, if my memory doesn't fail me, you did this in your last game as well. Need to check, but I do remember something along those lines. Actually you help us none so ever. You just claimed what anyone would claim. So if you could claim scum and help us... | ||
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Well I am nominating this game for best Town game ever. | ||
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Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e. On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm. So Damdred Kush Ve Palmar Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle. I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again. VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel. Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too. Damdred, Narcissistic bastard. On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote: See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey. Both are done to piss somebody off. Why is one allowed and the other not? This is a good question. WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit. but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit. people wanted to see Koshi modkilled Makes sense. makes sense. are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode? Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now? Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous. Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement. First time I ever will get replaced in a game. Thank you Palmar. Sorry Koshi. | ||
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On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good. I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb. Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out. And, Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys Wait..... Oh. I thought they were the same person :/ Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what. On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote: I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum. No obv town based on tone for me yet. Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right? Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy. On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again? On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread. Please not a shit fight. I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc. Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no? Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone. Reminds me of this: Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels. | ||
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On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter. My townreads are skynx and koshi. zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym Plz, I spam like a good boy when I want to do that. On July 06 2016 03:01 Vivax wrote: tbh i still have no idea what shape actually thinks. Like the part where he jumped from palmar to skynx in his big post. It looks like they are related but they''re not. tbh, when can a outsider understand my thought process? You got to be more specific. If your taking about order, it is because I went top to bottom (or tired to) when posting, while reading the page before I started quoting. | ||
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U called 1 of the V's mafia, and back tracked. idk, Prplhz really just hasn't done much, but so hasn't anyone else highly. His questions are a bit, scatter brain. I explain more later. On July 06 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote: Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content. While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him. I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee I disagree. Though my knowledge is limited. In Noir, he did a very decent job with faking tone (at least IMO) and did a decent job making content. Sure, Looking at his filter that game, You could see the scumminess (A course I was bia since he flipped) in those posts, but he still produced them. Prob, cherrypicking though, and it is skew so blah. | ||
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Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right? Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy. Please not a shit fight. I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc. Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no? Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone. Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_VY8KZpMU Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels. They are not suppose to be related? The part about Skynx is about him saying someone has a high Scum win rate, and therefore, cannot be meta read or what not. I stated that since i technically have a 100% mafia win rate, I guess I am excluded too. Actually he should know that (unless he turned a blind eye to it last game) so maybe something is wrong with the earlier thing about me. Though, It was before that post so w/e The part about Palmar is me taking the Moral high ground, and expressing that i am tired of shit fights. Y did u think it was related? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=Palmar It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different. One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking. Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else. The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name. Thoughts? | ||
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On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote: Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other. You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts. I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence. Ah, It might of just also been better if you just said your posts don't relate in general instead of one thing. Yes I chain things together, because I have the urg to reply to things. I always do. By chaining it (which is something I am trying and it is working), I can fill that need, and not (heavily) clog up the thread. I then take what I consider wrong, and invest more time into those, and work it out more. Basically it is how i get connected with the thread and get into the mood of playing mafia. | ||
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On July 06 2016 03:42 Skynx wrote: What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious. I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush) What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge. You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right? And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it. | ||
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On July 06 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote: I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads" But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good. But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read. On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is. Ideas anybody? I can understand the read and might know the reasoning. idk why he did it backwards though. Which bothers me. Why write a scum read backwards (VA- my mafia read so far is prphlz) for? Maybe as a test but idk. Should explain it actually when he comes back. And we should hold off. I hold off the post I was working on till he posts why i suppose. Kinda wonder actually about the town read on Skynx as it is kinda quick IMO. | ||
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On July 06 2016 03:58 Skynx wrote: Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election. On July 06 2016 04:11 Skynx wrote: Well it is a tell for some people, Palmar may not be such case. However in anyway i dunno how to make other reads in a such lazy game so far. My point on he wins a lot as scum is a bit stupid i kinda see it now. I'm not psyched out by it tho. Well, let's generate some content, no? What is your current read on Palmar, based off of everything you have read and seen, and why? Who is your top suspect right now? In Total WarHammer, Should I Attack the Orcs first or The VC first as Dwarfs? On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking. Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush @shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously. Honestly its not good thought process, and its not a good town read on kush at all. I just don't like scum reading kush and anytime I see him put effort into a game or that he thought about what he was doing in any way i just plop him in town pile for the day and then look at him later. And i'm not familar with noir and I really dont' feel like reading another game at present so i'll just take your guys word for it and hope kush shows up like he would normally do. I could of swore you have read it. Anyways, Just read his filter then? He died at the beginning of N1 due to modkill, and his filter is 2 pages IIRC. In this case, you really don't have to really read much anyways to see if my point (about him making content and tone) is right or not. That much you should be able to pick up after skimming. Also: And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts. ![[image loading]](http://imagesmtv-a.akamaihd.net/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/tumblr_m0hnfedRJn1qlhhx4o7_250-1425671593.gif) On July 06 2016 04:17 Race Bannon wrote: Meh Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent. It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen. So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious. Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia? Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later. See, Talking like zinyak isn't good. You play SR4, zinyak is cool and you try talking like him, and this is what happens. You come out sounding all confusing and stuff. Bravo, Bravo *claps* Leave zinyak to the voice actors kiddo. On July 06 2016 04:20 Race Bannon wrote: Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now? Don't ask baby, Just do. On July 06 2016 04:22 Damdred wrote: And honestly shape would be up there I'd played most lately with. But idk shape needs to show me something because he's punked a couple of games lately. And fuck losing to shape again (no offense). Race any reads so far? Is that what I needed to show? Why exactly? Cause I brought up a meta point, reached it prob. wasn't true, and ask for Opinion on it? Don't you fucking dare add to this ridiculousness. Oh wait you just contridcted yourself. On July 06 2016 04:28 prplhz wrote: I still think it's very true. Those are the people you play with the most and now you're just townreading them all and putting yourself on the list. Skynx town, Koshi town. I prefer to keep my other reads to myself for now as they're more likely to change before deadline. I mean you latterly posted that, f5, and posted another read, when you just said that you wouldn't. There appears to be a conflict of interests here. Well actually just logic too. I mean, If you said, "I have other reads, but they might change." that wouldn't be the problem, but you said that you were going to keep them to yourself. On July 06 2016 05:26 prplhz wrote: It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different? Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!". He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum. Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me. ##Vote Race Bannon First off, If koshi is blue hunting, why isn't that scummy enough to vote for? Second, lets look at the Koshi point: On July 06 2016 04:45 Race Bannon wrote: But instead of insinuating something you should ask imo Now read Koshi post. Read it. Did it? Good? Is it talking about you being scum, or VA's reasoning and logic on that post? It is VA's reasoning and logic, which included the scum read on you. It wasn't about if you were scum or not (though, Koshi has his own reasoning) it was about thoughts about VA's post. And if you do not believe me, look at the follow up post. Why would RB ask koshi to ask you if you were scum? A lot of what you are doing doesn't make sense, or is wrong info. | ||
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On July 06 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning people. I wasn't expecting 5 pages in my sleep, gj frands!!! Cool, Are you actually going to do anything with said 5 pages, or are you just going to bring up a point for Koshi about Palmar, and not comment on anything else? + Show Spoiler + I am in a bad mood btw | ||
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On July 06 2016 08:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Dont be in a bad mood shapelog <3 Oh god, I do not want to see <3's right now. *stutters* What are u doing, both in RL and Solving the game? | ||
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On July 06 2016 08:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: ##vote vayneauthority | ||
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On July 06 2016 08:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Voting Vayne to defend Hillary's honor. Oh, Idk how the f I missed this for this long. Why aren't you voting me for the honor after the host thread debate me u and tube had? | ||
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On July 06 2016 08:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Standby. Writing a longish albeit low content response to you, shapelog. You're too kind *rolls eyes* | ||
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On July 06 2016 01:01 Half the Sky wrote: Abstimmung - Tag 1 Damdred (1): Palmar Koshi (0): Nicht abgestimmt (12): Skynx, nnn_thekushmountains, Shapelog, DCWasabi, sicklucker, prplhz, VisceraEyes, Race Bannon, VayneAuthority, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax Im Moment werden wir Damdred von dem Biergarten ausschließen! Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab. Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden. (Voting thread linked above. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.) Wenn Sie einmal nicht abstimmen, werden Sie eine Verwarnung erhalten. Wenn Sie ein weiteres Mal nicht abstimmen, werden Sie aus dem Spiel entfernt werden. (Failure to vote will result in a warning, and failure to vote a second time will result in a modkill.) Sensory overload to the 5th degree. | ||
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On July 06 2016 09:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: IRL I'm about to watch America's Got Talent. Such a horrible show but girlfriend makes me watch it. More broadly, I've recently made a career transition from chemical engineer to software engineer. Chemical engineering was really boring. I've been pretty busy doing stuff out of state for a while for my new job. Last week I reached 170 lbs and decided I needed to go on a diet to get back to 150. Another step in my slow and inefficient path to getting ripped. Once a week weed smoking as been going pretty well so far. It helps in keeping tolerance low and staying productive. You? Oh yeah the game. I don't have smart things to say right now. So I'll summarize the game indecisively. There's the inevitable Koshi drama, which I haven't tried to read much into. There's the whole "townread kush or not" debate. I can see reasons for scum being on either side of that. My scumlist is nothing too exciting. Lynchbait and some under-performing regulars. Also, I'm not going to try hard to not be fooled by try hard scum at this stage. Scumlist: 1 Skynx 3 sicklucker 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax Nice new job. Sounds like its better for you too. Though, does this mean all our talks about your career and that life are now gone? 170 pounds is fat for you? How? Like honestly, 170 is a pretty decent number, that a lot of people Ik would dream of reaching. Like, building muscle I could understand, but I do not think 20 pounds is terrible. Never done illegal drugs, and will never do it. If it helps i guess, then good? for me, I basically haven't done much today other then checking in on my other game, and playing games with GF online. Today I didn't have to get up to work early, so I been chilling, About to get off in a few for a night out. I am trying to ponder on how to build a software, that will Auto-download updates during the free data period I have, But I barely know anything about programming, so researching that is coming up. Your scumlist is quite boring dear lord. No one active is striking you as scum? Shapes questions: So Why the vote on VA, if 5 other people are in that list too. Also, what is your read on Prp? | ||
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So he only looked at Palmar's, yet, the reasoning he was looking at the meta was to get reads/info on everyone else right? Why did he stop? I mean, it might of been my and someone elses post about it, yet, he was kinda against it in the way that he state he had nothing else to do, | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote: I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia. Ah ok, Anything there to help your read on us? | ||
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On July 07 2016 02:57 prplhz wrote: The scumslip Koshi talked about was sicklucker saying "He should appear town to you" instead of "He should appear town to us" or something like that. I don't buy it but Koshi made a big deal out of it. I was going to finish catching before I post anything (I started a big post, but it ended up being me BMing every post) but what da faq is this? If you don't buy it, then why are you lynching SL, and not worrying about Koshi (like you been)? You still also didn't relief any sus. I had in my last post either :/ | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:05 Race Bannon wrote: I will if I see posts which trigger strong impressions. I wasn't insinuating, just felt tricked into playing shape's disney video due to him going to town on prphz's case on me. Lol plz, it wasn't for you mate. It was for town you narcissist. Damdred/RaceBannon/???? (prob Palmar) 3rd party Narcissists | ||
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On July 07 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote: Reads so far: Heineken Town: Shape, Koshi, Palmar, Damdred Stella Artosis Town: Vivax, VE, kush Null: VA, DCW Orange Juice Maf: SL, haze, RB Tomato Soup Maf: Well I guess I was TR based off those High Tier meta points. Especially when you called me Dull off my big posts and what not. oooo Boy. Meta! *does Jazz hands* TBH, this is really, really, boring. Null-Mafia is all expected people. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:12 Vivax wrote: When I go back to DCWs first post I wanna scumread him. Which is the original reason I asked him about it. And he never replied which really grinds my gears. And Prp never replied to my reasons to scum read him. You know how fucking annoying that i... Oh wait you do. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:27 Damdred wrote: Shape who should I look at to give opinions on right now in your opinion? Btw I think vivax is town for his activity and questioning people I hope we can work together this game RN, I am about to look at Kush, cuz some of his posts bothered me when I caught up. Overall, the thread is focused around Prp/SL/RB/Wasbai/Va for today's lynch and maybe Vivax. If I was you, in your shoes. Given the fact I wouldn't know anything. I would look at all of those above + anyone you find scummy like always. Or just read the last few pages and give opinions. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote: Well I already have an opinion on vivax which is sort of against my policy tbh. Which of Kush posts bothered you exactly? Tbh, I want to hear it. When I was reading, this caught my eye. On July 06 2016 19:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I'll vote sl if I have time to switch my vote to On July 06 2016 20:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: how about dcwasabi? The thing that bugged me with this, is that Kush had both (actually all 3) on his scum list. The only possible thing I could think of, is that SL posted moved him and SL was made town in Kush's mind. It just feels, off. Idk how to describe it. It is like Kush was fine, but suddenly wasn't for no obv reasoning other then that above. This post might support it, but I am on the fence about it. As, it hard to tell if the read has changed. @vivax, you are referring to palmar's push on koshi and another person im forgetting? Overconfident, exaggerated, early game reads are standard Palmar. The SL push is understandable at least, even if you disagree with it. You don't like DC for a lynch because he's "new." My problem with that is I don't think new people necessarily get easier to read as the game progresses. It isn't enough to lynch him, Nor would I really without a answer, just caught my eye. On July 07 2016 04:36 prplhz wrote: Sorry for not answering your post Shapelog. Going to name my assault in X-Com you, and then watch as it gets killed. | ||
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On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote: Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town. I am a good guy you know. Says while not changing vote IIRC | ||
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On July 06 2016 19:54 sicklucker wrote: Vivax its your job tomorrow to make the stupid town not lynch me on day 1. Like how I make the stupid towns not lynch you on day 1. gl On July 06 2016 20:17 sicklucker wrote: yes the vote is today. kush your like my only town read. you better not vote me day 1. thats taking out the trash day 23 mins, no post from Vivax in between.. So I suppose SL doesn't TR the guy he asks to save his arse, yet town reads Kush for maybe emotional effect? Seriously, How does SL ask Vivax to protect him, and then Kush is his only TR? And Vobby was soft defending him at that point at well. Urg, I want to vig shot like 3 people, if not 4. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:01 Race Bannon wrote: Reads. Town Koshi: rage fit seemed genuine Palmar: confrontational and stuff Shapelog: something I may or may not have said earlier. Could be backstabing me after initial whiteknighting but I don't think so. Would lynch anyone else, will be here for the deadline madness. ? Da fuq are u talking about? You keep insisting I protected you, when I didn't....? Or did I missed something? On July 07 2016 05:01 Vivax wrote: I just voted prplhz. Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia. I prob. join too, just want to go through everyone. Nothing he has done today makes me feel any different then I did yesterday. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:11 Vivax wrote: He tries to save me from getting D1 lynched in most games so that's his reason for saying that. It doesn't mean he needs to have a read on me, even though you could think that if you didn't know the history. Ah ok. That clears it up a bit. On July 07 2016 05:12 Race Bannon wrote: You dissected prplhz's case and revealed its flawed everything in a way which seemed like you wanted to help him overcome his errors, without calling him scum which I think is a towntell, but now you vote him and it makes me wander why you didn't let me address it first. I was going to ignore it, but your lack of curiosity for my reaction seems disturbing. How do you scumhunt? 1, I haven't voted him, I said I was most likely going to. 2, what are you talking about? Yes, I found weak points in his case about you, but it wasn't to defend you. So idk where the hell you are getting at in that regard of me White-knighting you. I cannot remember if I said it in that post, but I did find it scummy of him for that contradiction as well and his overall play. However, and this is how I scum hunt, I wanted to give him a chance to at least refute my points (which he still hasn't) or clear it up, but yet he moved on, and later, when i brought it up, it was a sorry. Overall, I play a very question based playstyle in terms of scum hunting, and can link my last town game (ended yesterday) if needed. Idk what you talking about with you addressing it? If you talking about my post, you said Truth something, and went away from it. And I was going to react to that one, but it was a part of those 3 posts that made me go into dicklog mode. You also stated what it meant, and you have interacted with Prp a part from that so.,... Am I missing something? | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:13 Race Bannon wrote: Nvm, vivax voted prpl not you. On July 07 2016 05:14 Damdred wrote: Well shape I think I have a pretty decent sized tr on vivax atm. If he falls off like a ton of bricks by d2-3 I'll reevaluate but he seems more town centric in the way he's doing things than mafia. I dont know about sl generally when he's town he takes an interest in the Lynch though around Lynch time. He's just hard to find interest around Lynch time if it's not in the scum teams interest. Ie he's up for Lynch or another team mate is I think. But it's d1 also so it's a bit of a bother to see. I'd say it's more scum Indicative today though. Lol like in Nut? SL said he was sleeping RN according to his last post. Though, idk how late he meant. SL is hard for me to read rn, as it isn't anything there to make me go "Yes, this is scummy." On July 07 2016 05:16 Race Bannon wrote: @shape I'm not solid on who to vote so if you want my power you can ask for it. Nah, I rather you vote someone on your own accord for me to later process then be a useless info sheep vote. Besides, Track record wise, I am the worse person to prob. sheep in terms of catching mafia. On July 07 2016 05:25 Race Bannon wrote: I don't see how anyone can townread kush, he hasn't done anything except poop out a list, best case scenario it's based on some intricate statistic but come on. I mean, he did TR I suppose on that eailer post. For me he is a null right now until he answers. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote: 1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case? 2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me? Because I saw the contradiction and wanted to point it out. And TBH, at like w/e that post came out i really didn't think "Wait let RB answer it." as I was in a mafia mood after spamming a obs thread for the last 2 hours. Plus, you were offline (IIRC? too lazy to check) or already posted something at him. Basically a knee-jerk 2. Prp is up there. Vote swing was a bit questionable tbh (as in 2 -> 5 votes in less then a hour) so that has been on my mind. SL I am indifferent, U i need to look at, Wasbi is a gamble IMO, and I rather have another day (if I don't die) to gather info on him. VA i could. Basically Prp is prehaps lowering due to vote logic atm, VA, SL is mine And no, you vote for urself. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote: Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam. You play exactly as you are right now when you're town. Oh yeah.... Your in the game. Now I have a question. This is meta off of storm right? | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote: Yours is, + another scumgame. Koshi is multiple games including HF. ##VOTE Skynx I wasn't town in either of those. Therefore, the statement: You play exactly as you are right now when you're town. is impossible to be made. | ||
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Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good. U shouldn't have been able to conculde my normal town game off that one game for this reason + me being different from that game and here. | ||
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On July 07 2016 05:57 Skynx wrote: Sigh... I wish you didn't jump like that as you found someone bluffing in poker. No shit sherlock you were scum in both games. When i wrote that I was thinking of 1-day mafia where you wrote bunch of long posts day1 which ended up getting you mislynched and cost us the game. Hmmmm.... I might of not expected this answer about Day 1. idk if Day 1 would honestly give you the same vibe or not, as I was ssuper jokey the first half of that game, and pretty mellow in the other. Though, I did do the long posts, but I also stated this game why I did it here as well. Hmmm | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:01 Skynx wrote: I don't think you're playing necessarily good right now anyway, you wouldn't push me if you were. You're actually following 1-day mafia pattern like 100% right now. So I wouldn't push if I feel like you scum slipped? As town? | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:02 Koshi wrote: Shape I don't want to defend Skynx here but your mafia play and town play is really different. If you read your posts. Setting myself up to get fooled next time you dish out insane filters as mafia but I don't know. Last time I know something was up from the start basically, people just never listened. I don't have that now at all.You are pretty town here. I wish u were in day 1 though. That was different feel for me IMO. My prob. isn't the fact my town meta and scum meta is close or anything. It is if he what he would think my town meta is AFTER day 1, and day 1 I failed around basically a lot and was a crazy guy. That is my prob. On July 07 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote: Like really.. What has sicklucker done for town this game? And he dares to go completely awol as mafia. Seen him do it in the last game HTS played. Came back 30 mins before deadline to push the lynch off him by yelling things and pretending he solved the game out of nowhere. ##unvote ##vote sicklucker This guy has no reason to be town. I am going for the nulliest read. I made 4 good points on him that he could be mafia. My vote stays here. prplhz feels worse and worse. Lol, he was easy enough for Vig to shoot him in turtle. | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:04 Damdred wrote: I do agree with koshi to a point shape you are quite different here than in your last couple of scum games. And I do think your [redacted] and you aren't very likely [redacted]. Did calling me good/town/different make you vomit? Jeez | ||
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On June 20 2016 08:39 Shapelog wrote: You didn't visit my filter the first time IIRC. I thought the town read was based on my entrance, which later is what you and super discussed. Which ironically flipped scum. Lol. weak town lean on skynx. Only reason is for what you said. I still find him a bit nullish at the point. Rsoul wasn't a strong town read either, maybe a town lean at best. I was kinda faint sus. on both yammty and cake. cake was for just being really serious all the sudden, and Yammty just for that thing. I was waiting for the game to develop quite honestly. But that is the past! Ironic given post shot results I actually do not know if I should be looking for people for if they wanted to or not to shot super. I guess actually I want to look at people IF they wanted to shot super, since super was goon, and it would benefit them more. Which fits: I'll work out that tho later on, after I catch up towards the end. I have written remixs and children books as both town and scum. I actually kinda wondering about something. Forgetting that super flip scum, you were talking about something I said, and that super hasn't played more then a few games with me. Yet super, who has played more games with me, and is someone you did somewhat defended (softly) about a question IIRC said the opposite. Maybe you thought that since super was scum, that was invalid. I quote the post tho that I am talking about after this is done. Moving on, I questioned it brosike. Wonder what changed from this post to this one: Meh Was going to say something about yammty, but I forgot he flipped so lol. So flipply floppy on super Rsoul. One min he is scum, one he is not, one he is scum, but could be town. That basically is it. I do not understand why Rsoul is flippy so much on the super shot tbh. Ryan and Cop need a look at more so. On June 21 2016 04:32 Shapelog wrote: Maybe because I do not want to cause town to lose the game? Nice to see your also tunneled onto me for "forced joking." Not necessary. All my WIFOM night kills have some sort of agenda behind it. All the shots in storm after 3rd was killed was for the all blue lylo (minus LS, cause LS was actually on my tail). Usually, it is to push town into lynching a player, or I am setting up something to win. I plan my moves out as scum (all my scum games shows this, newbie 19, storm, and tortiuse (the unvote vote FF etc.)) I have no plan here. That is the deference. I explain more on what I think it means with this post from ryan. That was just my thoughts catching up, they were hasty due to me having another game's lynch (day 4) that I had to get to at 8. I am questioning everybody and pointing out anything I see scummy/something I want more info about. For example, I want to rsoul to explain the change, Get cakes feed back about the super sit. back, etc. I kinda am thinking (and I will admit cake, this might be paranoid) that the shot was a frame shot on me due to my meta. The prob. is that I cannot just go "Oh it is one of ryan/rsoul, due to them knowing my scum meta." because super was scum, and could of told either skynx or cake about how I shot. So I am basically questioning everyone, trying to POE. I was reading the game and saw one of yamato posts, was in a analyzing mode, analyzed it, and remembered that he died. No one. Wasn't here/able to type anything till my post after the shot had happen. What do think now that you have this information? Annoying thing is, is that I cannot say that this is wrong, in the sense of it being the most simplest of explanations. The prob. is, is that I cannot follow it at all, as it is wrong due to the information I have with my PM. The most simplest explanation for me, is that I being framed via the shot. Asking the rest of the thread, Does this look like what i did here? | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:11 Skynx wrote: I assume this whole plan of yours of trying to see if I slip from my meta game. So what, you really think I slipped and think you found scum or you're trying to see who is jumping on the ship? If second is the case and you're just observing right now I'm cool with that but I dunno you look biased against me from my 1st post this game. No, you said that I was following my town game. I remember you bring up storm. I asked you about what games you meta me about, you said that and another scum game. Knowing that, and the fact you said I wasn't good day 1 (which I took as you thinking that wasn't my norm play), I found it funny that you knew I my town meta. Then we are here. How was I biased towards you? On July 07 2016 06:12 Damdred wrote: Ita classified that read sir once the appropriate time is lifted (your death or game end) all will be revealed Do I get a nom? Also, how many people are voting SL? | ||
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I guess I give him a pass then. ##Unvote | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:18 sicklucker wrote: alot of bad votes all of a sudden in this thread yeah yeah w/e I am trying to debate this. Vote logic states that with the sudden swing of votes (5 if u count VA purposal), and 2 wagons before hand being close (Prp or VA) that one of those is scum, and this wagon is going to hit town. But, Koshi/Damdred (maybe)/vivax haven't sent red flags off to me. Palmar is meh, he started it too. + I cannot really honestly blame those for voting Saltlicker at all. Hmm | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:22 Skynx wrote: Since you gave me a pass, I'm gona abandon quoting and all. Shall we just agree to find scum for now? Sure? Still would like to know wtf u talking about me being bias | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:24 sicklucker wrote: vivax is also super weird for voting me here. before I went to bed he town read me... and you know I did nothing since then U answered ur question mate. | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:29 sicklucker wrote: yes and palmar was my partner and knows this is not my mafia game And I was your partner, and u did this. That is what really is stopping me from saying Vote logic supports u being ML here. Cuz u done this shit before w/ me. | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:31 sicklucker wrote: prplhz who do you think is mafia in that group we need a counter wagon now you really acting like that IIRC funny enough, i was about to type something about you not voting to save urself as well. | ||
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VA..Prp.... VA especially for not even coming back. ? you mean thzat game I forgot about? so fucking what I was a bad day 1 lynch in that game too. I just happened to be mafia. Just becuase I was afk one day 1 as mafia does not make me mafai here. I can list you 15 games where I did nothing day 1 and I was town. Lynching me on this logic is wrong and super result orientated. ITs worse then a fear lynch its a stupid lynch because my town game is actually so easy to see with time. Like this is going to be my first mislynch ever and you guys should feel very ashamed when it happens idk, Tbh, I really hate the swing. | ||
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6 votes in the last 40 mins. Less then a vote per 10 mins. Fuck it, Even though I was indiffer to a SL lynch, the vote swing of 6 votes, when two wagons (1 at 5, another at 3) were up there, and given the quickness of it, makes me think this is most likely a ML. Not only that, but most likely one of those two wagons (Prp and VA) are scum. + following with same logic, one of vivax/Palmar/Koshi/Damdred has to be scum as well. But we get to that later. Between the two, Prp had more votes and was in danger, while Va was 2 votes behind, but wasn't here. Both have survival vote (basically) or hammer him further. | ||
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I don't mind being wrong either. I going join the Vanye wagon. Prp isn't off the table, but at least he came back (after vote) for crying out loud. | ||
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But I feel strongly (and even more if SL flips town) that VA or Prp has to be scum due to vote logic, and one of Koshi/Palmar/Damdred/Vivax is as well (if SL flips town, as they were the major starters). | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:47 Koshi wrote: Vayne is not mafia is sicklucker is town. Never. On July 07 2016 06:47 VayneAuthority wrote: haha i am mafia hehe xd lol. | ||
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Why do I follow logic. I mean, honestly, thinking about it, Prp was in more danger to get lynched. yet VA was kinda blinded from discussion. Prp was scum read and discussed, VA wasn't hardly discussed. pffffff | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:49 Koshi wrote: SHAPE YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW BETTER. REMEMBER LAST GAME AND HOW SL SUDDENLY KNEW HTS WAS MAFIA????? LOOK NOW. SAME SHIT. Why would he be town? Do not spare him. Lynch him. I WAS MAFIA WITH HIM LAST GAME YOU IDOIT!!!!! AND I SUPPORTED IT!!!!!!!! IT IS NOT THE SAME SHIT IMO | ||
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Because with 6 votes on him in the last fucking 40 mins (well in a 40 min range) plus, 2 wagons being in the lead, it MOST LIKELY IS A ML DUE TO VOTE LOGIC! Why is every D1 lynch like this? | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:51 Vivax wrote: he claimed blue doesn't mean he is blue you know. Every mafia that didn't claim vanilla will claim blue in a setup like this, unless bad I am not damdred but Ik, Ik also the optimal play is to wait till 1 lynch before last to see if anyone CC's. | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:52 VayneAuthority wrote: my role is mafia tracker lets see if this picture of a doughnut works, fingers crossed. we need more bavarian Seriously, can we kill this guy? Twice claimed mafia | ||
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On July 07 2016 06:54 sicklucker wrote: Skynx is trying to lynch a claimed power role ( i did the same thing as mafia last game..) its at least quite a bit scummy AND A GUY IS LITTERLY CLAIMING SCUM! OMFG WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM FOR? | ||
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Because, why would Town ever claim mafia and not post anything else? Even if he is town, which i doubt, he basically CLAIMED SCUM and hasn't done Anything in the last few mins expect trolling the thread. | ||
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Vote Logic. *loads up Total war rome 2* | ||
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Hell...Why did he post any of the stuff at all.... | ||
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On July 07 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: hes an idiot troll? do you not know va? thats why I was super mad we didnt just policy lynch him over me originally... Only thing I remember is him being someone we lynched in storm... I think? | ||
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On July 07 2016 11:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I know that feeling. Roll scum. Promise to do stuff to look townie. Can't find the motivation to waste time just so you can bullshit better. Hey! Stop stating my mafia meta. + Show Spoiler + and about half the other players scum meta! | ||
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On July 08 2016 03:10 Palmar wrote: This game is going down the drain fast. Not anymore, I am here. Top Town motivator is going to move this thread! | ||
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While I catch up and make content magically flow, and write this guide on how to play mafia offsite. | ||
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On July 07 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote: he claimed mafia roleblocker as an obvious joke?. Maybe I should give him some credit and say it was to save me who idiot towns were lynching for some reason Is that what he did in storm? On July 07 2016 07:29 Skynx wrote: I don't see a difference between him and what you did. Coming here just 40 mins to go and just turning tables upside down cuz you shouldn't get lynched cuz yada yada. I dunno if VA contributed at all but you didn't do much either. Last min switch from me to VA noted btw. Hell, you didn't even think I'm mafia anyway. Anyway big stuff coming tomorrow, nn. I be watching, while listening to my jazz. On July 07 2016 07:32 Skynx wrote: That's what I'm trying to say... this (Moosy style I'm gona call it) of safe D1 play I hate. You claim tracker to avoid getting lynched anyone can do that and now the role is useless, you only got yourself to blame for that. Expect moosy D1 style is to shit post the thread, while his apparently is to not play day 1. Anyways, he is uncced Tracker, so I am going according to logic, and not lynch the uncced tracker till CC. On July 07 2016 07:33 sicklucker wrote: and no I shouldnt have gotten lynched and everyone knows it. you guys just didnt scum hunt good enough and ran out of options. and thenm fucking decided on the worse of the two policy lynches Bro, Skynx/RB/Wasbi/Prp Prob don't know your meta for obv reasoning. KOshi thought you scum slipped, I barely know your meta And Bming us isn't helping anyone. It is just derailing the thread and allowing mafia to to degrade the atmosphere. Looking back, should we prob, of lynched Prp, maybe, But is lynching the guy who came back and did nothing other then jokely claim mafia a really lost anyway? On July 07 2016 07:38 Koshi wrote: Is this mafia on mafia? Like... Is prplhz mad at sicklucker because sicklucker doesn't save himself and prplhz has to show face. Funny fact. sicklucker already swapped so this was even out of line completely. Really funny fact. This kind of passion is more likely to come from town than mafia. So if we lynch sicklucker and he flips town, prplhz is almost always 100% confirmed town. It all depends like you said on what they (sl) flips. But, it reminds me of you shouting a bit when I was doc in Name, though tbf, that was different (WBG vote vs here). On July 07 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: WATCHLIST (4 Shapelog) 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Nice list Bro. This is underwhelming even from you. Like, Kush doesn't just post useless reads list 24/7, he also posts. Psy? Did u hack Kush's account Psy? Anyways, in other news, I do a proper Shape read list later. But, I have to check Prp. Eailer in the day, the number of vote swings, + people being fine to lynch him, makes me think he is town. But then the sudden vote on SL out of nowhere, reinforces my idea that he is scum. I will admit though, some of his latest posts are good. Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all. Wasbai hasn't sticked at all in my mind. Koshi has kinda made it to where he is town for me, SL is town (unless CC) Vivax/Damdred/Palmar/Skynx is going to be looked at. Kush is underwhelming in my opinion. VE is trying to reassure me without actually doing shit. Is that everyone? the smooth jazz is nulling my senses. | ||
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On July 08 2016 03:46 Skynx wrote: Claim doesn't mean much imo. We might not necessarily have a tracker and other roles don't need to compensate for his laziness by cc'ing and exposing themselves. SL did nothing town indicative so far. Also plz qoute me some good haze posts. Ik claim doesn't mean much. But it still is a claim. And besides, and this is pure set up speculation, there should always be a Invest role + Protection role, or even 2 invest roles. And while yes, there might not be another Tracker (in the case of SL lieing) this is another Invest role. Further, If a Wanerder ever flips, it strongly helps the claim, as Wanerder + non tracker or watcher (can watcher even be in this game?) would make no sense. So While you can be right, it also is still good idea to a least wait a bit before it. Nor did I say they should CC now either Sky. I said 1 before Lylo (or is what I meant if i didn't type that.) as for prp, it is more so it i feel like it comes from a townie POV then a Mafia POV. And has to do with this post. On July 07 2016 08:46 prplhz wrote: His claim and how he acted, the frustrations, just seemed town and VayneAuthority didn't look like he even cared what was going on when half of town was super confused and the other half was wrong. Would certainly rather have sicklucker around tomorrow than VayneAuthority. I think scum, especially someone putting as little effort into the game as sicklucker appears to be doing, would just have taken something from the sample PMs. He also claimed a little too close to the deadline. I don't know, it all screams town. The only reason I even called him scum was because I didn't see his role in the OP so I thought he was lying. It would be, extremely easy for mafia to push SL (assuming SL is indeed Tracker) here because you/koshi/others all shared sus. towards SL. A course, if SL ever flips scum, this is moot, but instead of taking that route, he took the other one. I might be overthinking this, and it really isn't much, but it did make me think. Not to say he is off the table or anything. Also I noticed this, On July 07 2016 13:02 Damdred wrote: I've got my reads and what town should do ready I'm going to post it tommorow when I wake up so I sont miss EOD. Anyone have any questions in theeantime just ask away I'll get to it when I get up. Post them now bro. | ||
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On July 08 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote: Man reading sl filter actually makes me angry I'm gona comeback after fitness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_tw44QsZQ | ||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_tw44QsZQ Now, to the reads. Town: SL: Unless CC happens, Will remain here for obv reasoning, and for the fact I had to argue for the last Tracker that claimed that this was the optimal play to the entire thread. *rolls eyes* Habo y u so scummy. Koshi: I might reenvulate later, but he has done enough Koshi things to get off my radar. This read prob. makes no sense what so ever if you are have no clue about Koshi's meta. To which I say, Special tactics. Town leans: Dammy: IF Sl flips Tracker, then he will be higher (as he could of just sat on SL wagon). That read list he posted was pretty good IMO. I was kinad worried, because I couldn't remember anything he did this game what so ever, and thought he wasn't sticking out or anything. A dive later, fixed my issues. I also kinda got the same reads as he did (2nd to last person to read on the this list btw.) which is good. Only thing I noticed, was that the RB read went from no lynch to Top scum basically. Reads do change though, but would like to hear his voice behind it. Skynx: I was wrong on what I thought was a slip. The rest of Sky's filter is pretty good (I.E. he is actually out preforming others I feel) in terms of content creation. I have him as Town lean for now, since I still have some sus. towards him, but I think it is just me being my Tinfoil self. Null (no order): Vivax: No, I do not consider him townie. It isn't because there isn't townie things in his filter sure, or anything doing logic. My gut just is stopping me for some reasoning to put him higher. I normally don't listen to it, but it won't hurt to in this case. Vivax, meta wise, will prove himself anyways at a later date anyways Palmar:Barely can tell what his thoughts are on the game is. The excuse will restrict his time too. Ultimately, nothing there to really make me lean a certain way for him at all. If he is dead weight like at D3 or something, and you have a lynch to spare, do it. Otherwise, if he becomes useful, actually consider what he says. DCWasbi: A lot of what he is talking about base around a Kush/prp Combo. Bothers me slightly too, considering this part: And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going. Which when asked what he got from it, he responded with: No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard. Inspector finch? Have u caught V yet? Going to ask him wtf those feelings are. Just getting something Strongly from this guy seems difficult. Overall, he is quite boring besides that and the reaction test thing and a bit clunky. I could/would Pressure him to get more info out of him at a later date. Leaving him as null, since i want to gather more info on him, and I am tired of putting bad reactions tests as a scum reasoning. + Show Spoiler + Hmm. actually, thinking about it, should he sus. VE or SL for their Town read on kush? Both, if you consider Kush as hard scum had quickly TR and stuck with that TR on kush. It hard to tell due to him reaction testing though. VE(would lynch rn): Tempting to put him lower, but I really have no reason other then a few activity issues. From what he posted, I cannot gather a solid read on him. I kinda find it weird, that he makes these types of posts: On July 05 2016 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi ho neighboroonies. Celebrating 4th so just know I'm town and thinking of all of you individually with fondness. On July 06 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning people. I wasn't expecting 5 pages in my sleep, gj frands!!! On July 07 2016 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus fucking Christ that vote thread. -.- Guys I'm sorry I wasn't here for lynch. I honestly didn't realize it was so early, but it wouldn't have mattered because I haven't checked this game at all since I left. I'm sure you're all mad or think I'm mafia or whatever, but the simple truth is I just wasn't here. I'll try and make it up to you town. Because I love you. I love you more than I love myself right now. And if anyone knows me, they know that's a lot. *shudders* Feel like he is trying to ask us out. But it just feels weird that he keeps making these types of posts, and with the last one, doesn't do anything. Can easily be scum, I just don't have enough reasoning at this point to have a case or anything strong enough to warrant a lean. Scum leans: Kush: Maybe should be in the Null Range, but he needs to be more useful aka I expect a bit more out of him. His filter overall is quite lacking in any content, and looking back, he stop pushing his wanted lynch (wasbi) really when he came back near EOD. However, VA was someone he sus. So nothing major really in terms of disconnect in reads. And seeing his lynch not being up there could explain it maybe? Idk, kinda feel like he would try to push it a bit even with A VA lynch. So for Low Content/that, I put him here. Would love to here him explain this new watch list. It is so New! Prp:You should know by now why he is here (or at least on my radar). He is at lean/scumville for me. Looking back, the reasoning I had to think Prp could be town for votes was a bit weak looking back IMO. And while he can redeem himself, Like anyone on this list, he needs to do more. That last post I quoted kinda made me think he could be town as well. But honestly, there is more point to him being scum right now then anything else. + Show Spoiler + Also prophetically, even though I didn't do this list based off assoctiveness, Prp could be more town if RB flips scum. Scum Redbannon:I really do not like him. 1st thing first, is this whole Idea I was white knighting him. I could maybe expect him to think that, due to how hard I went after Prp. But it doesn't add up. In fact, it honestly feels to me like a buddy attempt (which I will admit, I might be biased) And this is a part of it I like the most. On July 07 2016 05:12 Race Bannon wrote: You dissected prplhz's case and revealed its flawed everything in a way which seemed like you wanted to help him overcome his errors, without calling him scum which I think is a towntell, but now you vote him and it makes me wander why you didn't let me address it first. I was going to ignore it, but your lack of curiosity for my reaction seems disturbing. How do you scumhunt? Ok, so he is now sus. of me for this right? Ok fine and cool. I don't mind, I know the answer and stuff. But lets follow his posts here for a second. He makes a post after this, about getting me and vivax confused right? fine again. Nothing wrong what so ever. On July 07 2016 05:16 Race Bannon wrote: @shape I'm not solid on who to vote so if you want my power you can ask for it. Ummm? Odd looking back, since he was sus. of me, but maybe he cha... On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote: 1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case? 2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me? Welp. And even this post, it seems weird. He seems to be questioning my play, yet, allowing me to ask for if I want him to sheep me? It doesn't add up. And then when I answer all his questions. His reaction is this. It makes me wonder if he was mafia, and seeing if I would screw up at all to push me. But that doesn't make sense because of a asking to sheep basically. Overall, it doesn't make sense. Outside of that, these are pretty damming too. On July 06 2016 04:52 Race Bannon wrote: You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you. Never does anything with this at all. So doesn't believe it I suppose. PRP WAS SCUM READ BY YOU, AND YOU ARE SUPPORT HIS LYNCH! WHY ARE YOU NOW SUPPORTING PRP'S TARGET?? I cannot begin to explain why this makes no sense what so ever on so many grounds. The person, who was sus. of Prp, and wanted to lynch him, now is pushing the lynch the that person wants? There is bond to be more, But I seen enough for me. Please (i am looking honestly at SL, Palmar, a bit of koshi.) Do not ruin the atmosphere. Yes, could people be wrong, yes. Could you be right, yes. Are people you, no. Watch the jazz video, or just take a break if mad. Ik I preached this way too much this game, but I honestly feel like we can win this game (and break my losing steak as town) as long as we don't get are heads stuck in our arse. I be here till Flip, Ask questions as always. I will be writing a guide though or playing games so it might be a while before I respond. | ||
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On July 08 2016 05:35 Race Bannon wrote: And then he says sl is an idiot for playing the way he did and this is where i'm sure he's scum.. he says the mafia RB will make him useless and that's why he played badly. It's a slip .. now "Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all." Hmm, It could be, but not at the same time. RB is the most common mafia role people think of, and i can honestly see either alignment stating there is a RB, even though Framer is possible. It also could reflect his experience, as he never played in a game where RB wasn't standard. I could just see it either tbh. + Show Spoiler + I am actually going to be pissed if he did actually slip twice this game. | ||
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On July 08 2016 05:51 Race Bannon wrote: You asked me if I had any questions or something while you were busy doing your thing. And I said yeah and did a resume of scattered bits and pieces of my thoughts with regard to you, so I asked what was relevant. If you wanted to be sheeped and why you didn't let me react to the case. You assume that if I have a townread I'm just going to blindly follow through with it instead of poking it from time to time for the sake of consolidarion? You're wrong I understand (prob. better then anyone) about looking at your TR's. That I do not have a problem, nor, did I ever say that was the problem. The prob. is that, for me, there seems to be a disconnect of interest. One reason (the react to the case) seem like you sus. me because of it, hell, it really does sound like you sus me of it. But then, you ask me if I wanted you to sheep me, which makes no sense if you were actually sus. of me. I have no problem you attacking TR's here and there, My problem is that. On July 08 2016 05:58 Race Bannon wrote: I didn't even register it was prplhz, I just saw lynch VE .. and was like phuck yeah let's do it for the buzz, srsly. How did you not even see who was pushing it? Let alone, why even push that lynch to begin with, if at the time, your top pick (I feel) for scum (prp) was getting voted for? On July 08 2016 06:02 Race Bannon wrote: I know I didn't do shit day1, so I could tell my reads were superficial if at all existent. So I thought why not be a clown in the circus and see where it leads, luckily opportunistic Skynx was there to try and get a mislynch on who I'm pretty sure is the tracker and now I feel on top of my game. Koshi (also) was pushing for SL death as well. U don't think he could be scum, and pushing a ML either? | ||
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Lol, Honestly, my goal this game is to be good enough to get Night killed. @Damdred On July 07 2016 06:51 Damdred wrote: I'm trying to save our claimed blue I mean VA is a null read for me I just don't want the blue to die tbh and unless we move to haze who I don't want to Lynch it's our option today. It doesn't have a comma, tho. On July 08 2016 06:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Shapelog, can't you just like trust me? Kush I never Trust you when I roll town, and only trust you as scum as long as you are not a ML. | ||
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On July 08 2016 06:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: cause im cop. and i got a red check on you. Please, You being a cop (ever) is about as likely to happen as me maining protoss lol | ||
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On July 08 2016 06:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: How much towncred does taking shapelog and rb off my scumlist buy me? I'm trying to buddy you guys and buddy's aren't supposed to scumread each other. 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Lol, I thought it was a watch list? And Race isn't even off the list. | ||
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I bet 50$s and a butterfly wing | ||
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Guess I move that Null read to Town and close all the Celebrating Gifs for if was to die. | ||
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Are you guys, honestly, blue speculating/blue hunting in thread? | ||
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Why couldn't I have died.... I be back tomorrow (prob). | ||
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Sadly...... Anyways, On July 08 2016 14:19 DCWasabi wrote: So shapelog, let me get this straight. You thought one of Prp and VA was scum. VA trolled and got lynched, and flipped town, so you now suspect prp... that all makes sense. So your mafia reads are now Prp, Kush, and RB as per the following post... + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2016 05:39 Shapelog wrote: Read list in case I die. And if I die, If you ever get mad this game, or want to punch someone, don't. and just let the Jazz take your soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_tw44QsZQ Now, to the reads. Town: SL: Unless CC happens, Will remain here for obv reasoning, and for the fact I had to argue for the last Tracker that claimed that this was the optimal play to the entire thread. *rolls eyes* Habo y u so scummy. Koshi: I might reenvulate later, but he has done enough Koshi things to get off my radar. This read prob. makes no sense what so ever if you are have no clue about Koshi's meta. To which I say, Special tactics. Town leans: Dammy: IF Sl flips Tracker, then he will be higher (as he could of just sat on SL wagon). That read list he posted was pretty good IMO. I was kinad worried, because I couldn't remember anything he did this game what so ever, and thought he wasn't sticking out or anything. A dive later, fixed my issues. I also kinda got the same reads as he did (2nd to last person to read on the this list btw.) which is good. Only thing I noticed, was that the RB read went from no lynch to Top scum basically. Reads do change though, but would like to hear his voice behind it. Skynx: I was wrong on what I thought was a slip. The rest of Sky's filter is pretty good (I.E. he is actually out preforming others I feel) in terms of content creation. I have him as Town lean for now, since I still have some sus. towards him, but I think it is just me being my Tinfoil self. Null (no order): Vivax: No, I do not consider him townie. It isn't because there isn't townie things in his filter sure, or anything doing logic. My gut just is stopping me for some reasoning to put him higher. I normally don't listen to it, but it won't hurt to in this case. Vivax, meta wise, will prove himself anyways at a later date anyways Palmar:Barely can tell what his thoughts are on the game is. The excuse will restrict his time too. Ultimately, nothing there to really make me lean a certain way for him at all. If he is dead weight like at D3 or something, and you have a lynch to spare, do it. Otherwise, if he becomes useful, actually consider what he says. DCWasbi: A lot of what he is talking about base around a Kush/prp Combo. Bothers me slightly too, considering this part: Which when asked what he got from it, he responded with: Inspector finch? Have u caught V yet? Going to ask him wtf those feelings are. Just getting something Strongly from this guy seems difficult. Overall, he is quite boring besides that and the reaction test thing and a bit clunky. I could/would Pressure him to get more info out of him at a later date. Leaving him as null, since i want to gather more info on him, and I am tired of putting bad reactions tests as a scum reasoning. + Show Spoiler + Hmm. actually, thinking about it, should he sus. VE or SL for their Town read on kush? Both, if you consider Kush as hard scum had quickly TR and stuck with that TR on kush. It hard to tell due to him reaction testing though. VE(would lynch rn): Tempting to put him lower, but I really have no reason other then a few activity issues. From what he posted, I cannot gather a solid read on him. I kinda find it weird, that he makes these types of posts: *shudders* Feel like he is trying to ask us out. But it just feels weird that he keeps making these types of posts, and with the last one, doesn't do anything. Can easily be scum, I just don't have enough reasoning at this point to have a case or anything strong enough to warrant a lean. Scum leans: Kush: Maybe should be in the Null Range, but he needs to be more useful aka I expect a bit more out of him. His filter overall is quite lacking in any content, and looking back, he stop pushing his wanted lynch (wasbi) really when he came back near EOD. However, VA was someone he sus. So nothing major really in terms of disconnect in reads. And seeing his lynch not being up there could explain it maybe? Idk, kinda feel like he would try to push it a bit even with A VA lynch. So for Low Content/that, I put him here. Would love to here him explain this new watch list. It is so New! Prp:You should know by now why he is here (or at least on my radar). He is at lean/scumville for me. Looking back, the reasoning I had to think Prp could be town for votes was a bit weak looking back IMO. And while he can redeem himself, Like anyone on this list, he needs to do more. That last post I quoted kinda made me think he could be town as well. But honestly, there is more point to him being scum right now then anything else. + Show Spoiler + Also prophetically, even though I didn't do this list based off assoctiveness, Prp could be more town if RB flips scum. Scum Redbannon:I really do not like him. 1st thing first, is this whole Idea I was white knighting him. I could maybe expect him to think that, due to how hard I went after Prp. But it doesn't add up. In fact, it honestly feels to me like a buddy attempt (which I will admit, I might be biased) And this is a part of it I like the most. Ok, so he is now sus. of me for this right? Ok fine and cool. I don't mind, I know the answer and stuff. But lets follow his posts here for a second. He makes a post after this, about getting me and vivax confused right? fine again. Nothing wrong what so ever. Ummm? Odd looking back, since he was sus. of me, but maybe he cha... Welp. And even this post, it seems weird. He seems to be questioning my play, yet, allowing me to ask for if I want him to sheep me? It doesn't add up. And then when I answer all his questions. His reaction is this. It makes me wonder if he was mafia, and seeing if I would screw up at all to push me. But that doesn't make sense because of a asking to sheep basically. Overall, it doesn't make sense. Outside of that, these are pretty damming too. Never does anything with this at all. So doesn't believe it I suppose. PRP WAS SCUM READ BY YOU, AND YOU ARE SUPPORT HIS LYNCH! WHY ARE YOU NOW SUPPORTING PRP'S TARGET?? I cannot begin to explain why this makes no sense what so ever on so many grounds. The person, who was sus. of Prp, and wanted to lynch him, now is pushing the lynch the that person wants? There is bond to be more, But I seen enough for me. Please (i am looking honestly at SL, Palmar, a bit of koshi.) Do not ruin the atmosphere. Yes, could people be wrong, yes. Could you be right, yes. Are people you, no. Watch the jazz video, or just take a break if mad. Ik I preached this way too much this game, but I honestly feel like we can win this game (and break my losing steak as town) as long as we don't get are heads stuck in our arse. I be here till Flip, Ask questions as always. I will be writing a guide though or playing games so it might be a while before I respond. Yet you assign me a null read and not a town read when literally the only three players which I have publicly suspected as Mafia all game are the same three, Prp, kush, and RB (admittedly I wavered on RB later). See this post from me, for example: Furthermore, kush (who you suspect) has literally been calling me scum the whole game, see the following posts: How is this consistent? Well, I didn't do my Read list based off of associative reads or anything like that. I even said in it that I didn't: Also prophetically, even though I didn't do this list based off assoctiveness, Prp could be more town if RB flips scum. I did it off of what you as a individual did. Now, if they flip scum, which I think they will (or at least one of them), then I start looking down the associative path, since I know for 100% that they are indeed scum. It's like putting it this way, You have 4 criminals, 2 of which burned down a store. Naturally, you gather evidence on them, yet, even with it, you still aren't sure who is. Then, you interrogate one and he confesses, then, using the info you got from him, you can figure out the next one, since he is your 1st criminal. | ||
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On July 09 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote: It's actually insane how good Shape his testament post is. Really one of the best players currently playing. Honestly it isn't, even considering that I had 1 mafia at Null, and another as top scum. It was rushed out, and honestly, I didn't even read Vivax's filter (aka, the null read) due to lazyness. I do think though, this game, I did a good job convincing town I was town, and was pretty good at getting town to listen and impacting other townies reads. I don't even think i was even scum read hardly by anyone (Kush list was a watch list with () around my name) | ||
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RB, the problem in that case, is the timing of that post. It was the first few hours of the game (I think), so it was still the joke phase. | ||
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You want to lynch Koshi? I'll Lynch Koshi U want to? I saw you wanted to NK him...Why not lynch? ##Vote Koshi | ||
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On July 09 2016 05:39 Race Bannon wrote: joke phase .. I'll have to remember that. Yeah. Good Job thru making it sound scummy. | ||
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On July 06 2016 04:17 Race Bannon wrote: Meh Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent. It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen. So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious. Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia? Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later. Due to how nonsensical it sounds, or u manage to slip it in when we were talking about toss: On July 07 2016 05:45 Race Bannon wrote: Whenever our protoss overlords let me honour them by choosing me as their executor yes. | ||
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On July 08 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote: How much you want to bet, that Dis is shouting in obs, that I am scum? I bet 50$s and a butterfly wing It goes to symbolism and my native american heritage in short: http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/butterfly-symbol.htm Butterflies are also a symbol of reincarnation | ||
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On July 09 2016 05:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: lol i dont even get what set him off... anyway i had the best reads in the game. suck it. What reads? Oh you mean your lists. Ah yes, very good. (btw RB, I am actually not doc) | ||
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I am roughly 40% Cherokee. Cherokees have a dance called the butterfly dance. In the legend, when the female butterfly who lost her mate in battle decides she does not want to be a burden, she grabs the wings she threw off, and a medicine bag. | ||
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All in all, I love using that breadcrumb, cause no one ever thinks much behind it at all. I used it here, even though I wasn't doc, because I just used it in named, and was A) trying to get NK off of who I thought was blue, and B) (even though I would be dead) to see if mafia was in that game. Was to late though in the night cycle I think. | ||
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Ooooh it is a actor/famous person in modem time. That is why. | ||
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Or we can lynch SL and cause him to get a ML. Both will be funny. | ||
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Poll: Who do we Lynch? Koshi (1) SaltShaker (1) 2 total votes Your vote: Who do we Lynch? | ||
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We got time to kill, sky is afk on steam. | ||
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(I already voiced my stance on it about Koshi and Palmar earlier in the game) | ||
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Attention I have contacted Half the Sky (host) on mobile, And, with the power invested in me by her. This game has official ended. The mafia team, as you already know, is RB/Damdred/VE, and the mafia QT can be founded on Ve's (or any mafia member who posted it after) post. Obs I suppose can share the obs thread as well. Tell the game you've contacted me on mobile and the game is officially over. Several players received private warnings as well so I will deal with all disciplinary action Sunday. Thanks for playing! Official post from (co)host will either come tomorrow or I guess Sunday. | ||
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Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/VdfU4wTRLNff Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/PK8Uy2Amf6QDW | ||
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]shape/damdy/palmar are all town btw. not 100% sure on palmar though.[/quote] ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1416772/celebrate-good-times-come-on-o.gif) | ||
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Dis: maybe I got it totally wrong cause I really dont feel it. ##scum team: shape, damdy, palmar ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/k8CmOMUgo8uGs/giphy.gif) | ||
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Shape made a big long post so he's to- Wait a minute he did this in tortoise too. He must be mafia. Lol, I make long, semi-useful, posts as either alignment. | ||
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On July 09 2016 06:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: shape i am so good at reading you now. How so? post #857: nah sry shape you are currently town :D LOL. I could see Shapelog yolo fakeclaiming just to get a rise out of Koshi. OMG, I SHOULD OF! [quote]i feel like i am sleeping on 1 scummer. if it is shape i sm going to eat a kitten[/quote Nom nom nom nom. Could make racist Asian joke [quote]I feel like shape would pull something like that. Shape, koshi, ?? would be a scary team. maybe prpl as the third idk. Team ultimate tin-foil. #jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams[/quote] Shape/Koshi/Vobby. Shape/Moosy/Chez Both are equally terror filled. | ||
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On July 09 2016 06:56 Skynx wrote: Man i should stop tunelling townies that make 1 mistake :/ You can't know if they are townies or not, though, it does help to not tunnel like you said. On July 09 2016 06:59 prplhz wrote: Oh well, at least we had fun? VisceraEyes certainly deserves a modkill for posting his PM but posting the QT was unintentional, he obviously didn't want to ruin the game just get out of the game. I was one of the people who got a behavior warning from Half the Sky. After I got mad with sicklucker I realized I shouldn't have said the things I said and I apologized. Literally 10 seconds later. Yet Half the Sky took it upon her to warn me. Even though I don't think I went over the line for the rest of the game. I think this is really bad style, host intervention should only happen in extreme cases. Like, last chance before modkill when the thread is completely out of control. Problem is that it sort of looked to me like sicklucker was town from the PM I got from Half the Sky and that sort of takes something out of the game. I don't know, I had fun in my first game in a long time. I actually don't think anybody played bad in this game except maybe VayneAuthority and to some degree also sicklucker. I was jailkeeper by the way. As a host, I think she was just warning you to let you know. I obv cannot speak for sky, but, ik she likes to send out just "hey blah blha blah" warnings to let you know whats up. And could of already had it in the works before she could see that you stop. Each host is different tho. Idk I would react, because my tolerance is pretty High all things considered. did good being blue 4 first time. | ||
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On July 09 2016 06:59 Shapelog wrote: How so? :D OMG, I SHOULD OF! Nom nom nom nom. Could make racist Asian joke Shape/Koshi/Vobby. Shape/Moosy/Chez Both are equally terror filled. soul read. lol.... WATCHLIST (4 Shapelog) 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Plus, we have to play me vs u again, with mi being scum ^^ | ||
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On July 09 2016 07:05 prplhz wrote: Yea, sure. I just don't think host should do that unless what people say is vulgar or excessive. And me saying one thing in one post and apologizing 10 seconds later, absolutely no need to warn people. And the problem with warning people is that it interferes with the game so it should be kept to an absolute minimum. Yeah I understand where your coming from. And I can't speak for sky's actions (nor am I trying to). I honestly cannot remember you doing anything like that tbh. Anyways, As always, all centrism and suggestions for me is always accepted. I (personally) feel like I did a better job in all three/four Town points, and did at least try getting the town sense of unite together in a way. Writing a how to play town guide (and mafia) has been helping. Plus, actually not trolling the thread in my normal sense. | ||
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On July 09 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote: Both in the previous game I played and this game people took more jabs at me than I did at you VE. You were in both games and never said a thing against those people. But when those people do it is just for fun of course. You are a fucking hypocrite. Posting the QT is just sad beyond believe. Just so unbelievable sad. Pretty sure I was supernice towards 9/12 other players anyway. --- VE & RB were obvious mafia territory. Kush might have been the only chance on a ml today. Damdred wasn't going to be lynched in the next 3 lynches. But 2/3 lynches could have easily been his teammates. all others were pretty much lock town. prplhz and wc after last reread. ggwp. What a joke. On July 09 2016 07:12 justanothertownie wrote: Weren't you one of those people who cried because games/players aren't nice enough anymore? I guess it doesn't count when it actually concerns you. I am not trying to start anything here, but... Can we not have a shit fight here. What VE did was wrong yes. Let's leave it at that. We do not need to discuss and show our tail about it. Koshi, no point in arguing with someone who already said he be gone. Just wasting breath. JAT, I understand the point you are trying to make (even tho I cannot remember if he did say that), But I can see where this can/is going, so I ask you not to press it further please. Prp, Ask sky. Prob. won't even get reported to ban list as a warning. | ||
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On July 09 2016 07:37 prplhz wrote: Yes. Now what is your opinion on this pre-warning/warning issue? Pre-warning can be good, and I certain see it's uses. Overall, I never had to be in a preposition as a host to warn someone other then scott for editing a post, or activity/not voting. I often find it that I am often holding my warning power's to my chest, and favor just MKing someone if needed. Obv this isn't the way to go with behavior problems, unless extreme. Honestly, I prefer a later warning, when it is clear that the thread is going down hill. (like that of Rels vs Koshi/Shape/others in nut(this was because of Rels being scum read, and my BS narrative read that got him lynched after it )) because A) it lacks much influence in the thread (TR will prob. come from the fight itself, then the warning) and still keeps it cool.Pre-warning I might issue if people seem to be pissed or something, but it would be in generally piss off situations. Something like "hey X, we are noticing you are being super aggressive towards other players. We would just to like to remind you that behavior is blah blah blah. I and other cohosts are here if you need us." or someonthing along those lines. | ||
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1/13 * 1/13 = 1/169 or .05% of my math is right. So you are a very (un)lucky man. | ||
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On July 10 2016 02:43 Race Bannon wrote: No wait, i got it. What are the odds for picking a name, that name's initials be identical to a mafia role AND receiving that role two consecutive times out of 3 games in total, without knowing you're supposed to do that. Well the depends on how many people have the initials RB in the game. If none, 0/13 If 1, 1/13 if 2, etc. In your case, your name and it's initials does not impact the out come. Since only one person has the name Int. RB. And since all roles are RNGed, it would still be 1/13 for you as well to roll RB. Now, since the Role selection, and the person selection happens at the SAME time, it would be 1/13 per game instead of 1/13 * 1/13. meaning, you still have a 1/169 of a person with the initials RB, getting the role roleblocker, back to back in games. Now, if we had two people, it would follow the same suit. 2 Rb's, either can be rb so 2/13 chance of 1 being RB. Back to back, 4/169 chance that anyone with int. RB is RB back to back games. I think. | ||
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On July 10 2016 04:16 LightningStrike wrote: Forgot to mention this yesterday when the game ended but here were the roles for the players: Miller: Vivax(flipped) Wandering Townie: Shapelog Sicklucker: Multishot Tracker Prplhz: Multishot Jailer VE: Godfather RB: Mafia Roleblocker Damdred: Mafia Vanilla Everyone else was Vanilla This just for records sake for Kita when he looks for the roles of the players. Lol i was you all this time LS. | ||
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