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sicklucker
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Half the Sky
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Abstimmung - Tag 2 VisceraEyes (1): prplhz Nicht abgestimmt (10): Skynx, nnn_thekushmountains, sicklucker, DCWasabi, Shapelog, VisceraEyes, Race Bannon, Damdred, Koshi, Palmar Im Moment werden wir VisceraEyes von dem Biergarten ausschließen! Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab. Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden. (Voting thread linked above. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.) Wenn Sie einmal nicht abstimmen, werden Sie eine Verwarnung erhalten. Wenn Sie ein weiteres Mal nicht abstimmen, werden Sie aus dem Spiel entfernt werden. (Failure to vote will result in a warning, and failure to vote a second time will result in a modkill.) | ||
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
On July 08 2016 05:00 Damdred wrote: Got distracted VE and Palmar are in the same boat right now. Both just aren't playing now. Both could be scum sliding by but I'm not sure I had a town read on both early in the game for tone reasons and I hope it's correct and scums just in the next group of people. Kush is idk just a let down right now, he didn't seem to care about the Lynch until it was happening and then didn't seem to care to much besides consolidating on va. Kind of slipping to the bottom of null with Ve and Palmar. All in all this is going to be the three people the game rests on figuring out if there are two scum in it or not. Right now I think there is one and by gut it's Kush by the way he is playing currently. Reminds me a lot of his scum game. The last person is DC, I have him as scum currently. His vote and leaving the thread with no follow up and avoiding a pointed question. His vote was useless I believe and doesn't really have much going on for him currently. Just side line and hiding out. Just for a short synopsis: There is a group of 4 people that I think two s um are in as I'm pretty convinced that RB is scum here. Right now I think it's Kush and DC with RB. And that's where I'm at. Damdred, I left the thread because I couldn't be on at the deadline. It was 3pm local time on a weekday. If playing these games requires me to be on around every deadline to be productive and not be labeled scum no matter what, then this may be my first and last game. I will put some thought into recent developments and post more. | ||
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sicklucker
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On July 08 2016 12:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Lol people are always an ass to kochi when it's not like their own reads are any better. i kind of have the right tho | ||
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
On July 07 2016 06:40 Shapelog wrote: I mean, fucking look at it, 6 votes in the last 40 mins. Less then a vote per 10 mins. Fuck it, Even though I was indiffer to a SL lynch, the vote swing of 6 votes, when two wagons (1 at 5, another at 3) were up there, and given the quickness of it, makes me think this is most likely a ML. Not only that, but most likely one of those two wagons (Prp and VA) are scum. + following with same logic, one of vivax/Palmar/Koshi/Damdred has to be scum as well. But we get to that later. Between the two, Prp had more votes and was in danger, while Va was 2 votes behind, but wasn't here. Both have survival vote (basically) or hammer him further. So shapelog, let me get this straight. You thought one of Prp and VA was scum. VA trolled and got lynched, and flipped town, so you now suspect prp... that all makes sense. So your mafia reads are now Prp, Kush, and RB as per the following post... + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2016 05:39 Shapelog wrote: Read list in case I die. And if I die, If you ever get mad this game, or want to punch someone, don't. and just let the Jazz take your soul. Now, to the reads. Town: SL: Unless CC happens, Will remain here for obv reasoning, and for the fact I had to argue for the last Tracker that claimed that this was the optimal play to the entire thread. *rolls eyes* Habo y u so scummy. Koshi: I might reenvulate later, but he has done enough Koshi things to get off my radar. This read prob. makes no sense what so ever if you are have no clue about Koshi's meta. To which I say, Special tactics. Town leans: Dammy: IF Sl flips Tracker, then he will be higher (as he could of just sat on SL wagon). That read list he posted was pretty good IMO. I was kinad worried, because I couldn't remember anything he did this game what so ever, and thought he wasn't sticking out or anything. A dive later, fixed my issues. I also kinda got the same reads as he did (2nd to last person to read on the this list btw.) which is good. Only thing I noticed, was that the RB read went from no lynch to Top scum basically. Reads do change though, but would like to hear his voice behind it. Skynx: I was wrong on what I thought was a slip. The rest of Sky's filter is pretty good (I.E. he is actually out preforming others I feel) in terms of content creation. I have him as Town lean for now, since I still have some sus. towards him, but I think it is just me being my Tinfoil self. Null (no order): Vivax: No, I do not consider him townie. It isn't because there isn't townie things in his filter sure, or anything doing logic. My gut just is stopping me for some reasoning to put him higher. I normally don't listen to it, but it won't hurt to in this case. Vivax, meta wise, will prove himself anyways at a later date anyways Palmar:Barely can tell what his thoughts are on the game is. The excuse will restrict his time too. Ultimately, nothing there to really make me lean a certain way for him at all. If he is dead weight like at D3 or something, and you have a lynch to spare, do it. Otherwise, if he becomes useful, actually consider what he says. DCWasbi: A lot of what he is talking about base around a Kush/prp Combo. Bothers me slightly too, considering this part: Which when asked what he got from it, he responded with: Inspector finch? Have u caught V yet? Going to ask him wtf those feelings are. Just getting something Strongly from this guy seems difficult. Overall, he is quite boring besides that and the reaction test thing and a bit clunky. I could/would Pressure him to get more info out of him at a later date. Leaving him as null, since i want to gather more info on him, and I am tired of putting bad reactions tests as a scum reasoning. + Show Spoiler + Hmm. actually, thinking about it, should he sus. VE or SL for their Town read on kush? Both, if you consider Kush as hard scum had quickly TR and stuck with that TR on kush. It hard to tell due to him reaction testing though. VE(would lynch rn): Tempting to put him lower, but I really have no reason other then a few activity issues. From what he posted, I cannot gather a solid read on him. I kinda find it weird, that he makes these types of posts: *shudders* Feel like he is trying to ask us out. But it just feels weird that he keeps making these types of posts, and with the last one, doesn't do anything. Can easily be scum, I just don't have enough reasoning at this point to have a case or anything strong enough to warrant a lean. Scum leans: Kush: Maybe should be in the Null Range, but he needs to be more useful aka I expect a bit more out of him. His filter overall is quite lacking in any content, and looking back, he stop pushing his wanted lynch (wasbi) really when he came back near EOD. However, VA was someone he sus. So nothing major really in terms of disconnect in reads. And seeing his lynch not being up there could explain it maybe? Idk, kinda feel like he would try to push it a bit even with A VA lynch. So for Low Content/that, I put him here. Would love to here him explain this new watch list. It is so New! Prp:You should know by now why he is here (or at least on my radar). He is at lean/scumville for me. Looking back, the reasoning I had to think Prp could be town for votes was a bit weak looking back IMO. And while he can redeem himself, Like anyone on this list, he needs to do more. That last post I quoted kinda made me think he could be town as well. But honestly, there is more point to him being scum right now then anything else. + Show Spoiler + Also prophetically, even though I didn't do this list based off assoctiveness, Prp could be more town if RB flips scum. Scum Redbannon:I really do not like him. 1st thing first, is this whole Idea I was white knighting him. I could maybe expect him to think that, due to how hard I went after Prp. But it doesn't add up. In fact, it honestly feels to me like a buddy attempt (which I will admit, I might be biased) And this is a part of it I like the most. Ok, so he is now sus. of me for this right? Ok fine and cool. I don't mind, I know the answer and stuff. But lets follow his posts here for a second. He makes a post after this, about getting me and vivax confused right? fine again. Nothing wrong what so ever. Ummm? Odd looking back, since he was sus. of me, but maybe he cha... Welp. And even this post, it seems weird. He seems to be questioning my play, yet, allowing me to ask for if I want him to sheep me? It doesn't add up. And then when I answer all his questions. His reaction is this. It makes me wonder if he was mafia, and seeing if I would screw up at all to push me. But that doesn't make sense because of a asking to sheep basically. Overall, it doesn't make sense. Outside of that, these are pretty damming too. Never does anything with this at all. So doesn't believe it I suppose. PRP WAS SCUM READ BY YOU, AND YOU ARE SUPPORT HIS LYNCH! WHY ARE YOU NOW SUPPORTING PRP'S TARGET?? I cannot begin to explain why this makes no sense what so ever on so many grounds. The person, who was sus. of Prp, and wanted to lynch him, now is pushing the lynch the that person wants? There is bond to be more, But I seen enough for me. Please (i am looking honestly at SL, Palmar, a bit of koshi.) Do not ruin the atmosphere. Yes, could people be wrong, yes. Could you be right, yes. Are people you, no. Watch the jazz video, or just take a break if mad. Ik I preached this way too much this game, but I honestly feel like we can win this game (and break my losing steak as town) as long as we don't get are heads stuck in our arse. I be here till Flip, Ask questions as always. I will be writing a guide though or playing games so it might be a while before I respond. Yet you assign me a null read and not a town read when literally the only three players which I have publicly suspected as Mafia all game are the same three, Prp, kush, and RB (admittedly I wavered on RB later). See this post from me, for example: On July 07 2016 01:47 DCWasabi wrote: Guys, activity is more than just number of posts and number of words right? It also matters if your posts actually mean something. On to the question from RB... prplhz and Koshi are unlikely to be scum together I am town-reading Damdred, Vivax, Skynx, Shapelog, Palmar?(beyond my reading skills lol). Also, I suspect that Koshi is town even though he wants to lynch me for low activity, he is using #logic. prplhz, RaceBannon, kush seem most scummy to me Especially prplhz/kush mafia combo. Seems like they want to lynch me and sway the vote without contributing much. Since I know that I am town, the fact that they both want to lynch me obviously makes me suspicious. Hopefully it is not just because I have drawn attention to both of them at points, if they think that my logic is bad, then they should attack my logic and not attack me. Furthermore, kush (who you suspect) has literally been calling me scum the whole game, see the following posts: On July 05 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting. 1 Skynx 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax These guys are the top candidates right now. On July 06 2016 09:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: IRL I'm about to watch America's Got Talent. Such a horrible show but girlfriend makes me watch it. More broadly, I've recently made a career transition from chemical engineer to software engineer. Chemical engineering was really boring. I've been pretty busy doing stuff out of state for a while for my new job. Last week I reached 170 lbs and decided I needed to go on a diet to get back to 150. Another step in my slow and inefficient path to getting ripped. Once a week weed smoking as been going pretty well so far. It helps in keeping tolerance low and staying productive. You? Oh yeah the game. I don't have smart things to say right now. So I'll summarize the game indecisively. There's the inevitable Koshi drama, which I haven't tried to read much into. There's the whole "townread kush or not" debate. I can see reasons for scum being on either side of that. My scumlist is nothing too exciting. Lynchbait and some under-performing regulars. Also, I'm not going to try hard to not be fooled by try hard scum at this stage. Scumlist: 1 Skynx 3 sicklucker 5 DCWasabi 8 Race Bannon 9 VayneAuthority 13 Vivax On July 06 2016 20:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: how about dcwasabi? On July 06 2016 20:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @vivax, you are referring to palmar's push on koshi and another person im forgetting? Overconfident, exaggerated, early game reads are standard Palmar. The SL push is understandable at least, even if you disagree with it. You don't like DC for a lynch because he's "new." My problem with that is I don't think new people necessarily get easier to read as the game progresses. On July 07 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: WATCHLIST (4 Shapelog) 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax On July 08 2016 06:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: How much towncred does taking shapelog and rb off my scumlist buy me? I'm trying to buddy you guys and buddy's aren't supposed to scumread each other. 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax On July 08 2016 07:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: scumteam is now ve damdred dc How is this consistent? | ||
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DCWasabi
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Sorry if I am self-centered here, but I have town-pride. Do you guys still want me to answer that question that I "dodged" about one of my very first posts in the game, or should we move on? I will do whatever is deemed more productive by those who I believe are upstanding citizens of this fine town. | ||
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DCWasabi
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
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Race Bannon
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On July 08 2016 15:02 DCWasabi wrote: Nobody else online now? I'm here | ||
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DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
On July 08 2016 15:13 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today? Out of the following 3, who is the best lynch, Prp, Kush, or you? | ||
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Race Bannon
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DCWasabi
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On July 08 2016 15:11 sicklucker wrote: hi. kinda frusterated at this game and kinda bizzy this weekend dont expect much Hmm... rather unfortunate. Don't you need to produce some reads for us to justify your existence now? | ||
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Race Bannon
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On July 08 2016 15:57 DCWasabi wrote: Hmm... rather unfortunate. Don't you need to produce some reads for us to justify your existence now?  | ||
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VisceraEyes
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When I left the thread I was not being listened to in the least and VA had two votes. I came back and he had been lynched. I'm starting from the assumption that the move to VA was mafia-motivated, or at the very least has mafia in it. So we go from this: On July 07 2016 06:34 Half the Sky wrote: Abstimmung - Tag 1 sicklucker (6): VayneAuthority (2): prplhz (2): DCWasabi, DCWasabi (1): nnn_thekushmountains Palmar (1): sicklucker Vivax (0): Skynx (0): Race Bannon (0): Damdred (0): Koshi (0): Nicht abgestimmt (1): Shapelog Im Moment werden wir sicklucker von dem Biergarten ausschließen! To this: On July 07 2016 06:58 Half the Sky wrote: Abstimmung - Tag 1 VayneAuthority (5): sicklucker (5): prplhz (1): DCWasabi, VisceraEyes (1): prplhz Skynx (1): Palmar (0): DCWasabi (0): Vivax (0): Race Bannon (0): Damdred (0): Koshi (0): Nicht abgestimmt (0): Im Moment werden wir VayneAuthority von dem Biergarten ausschließen! I'm the only common thread, which is good because I know I'm town. That leaves: Kush Shapelog Damdred sicklucker prplhz For the reason of intention, I've added prplhz to this list too. I don't think his vote ended up counting, but he tried to vote for VA as well. This is my starting point. I'm gonna filter these dudes and decide where to vote from there. I'm not voting outside this list though, there has to be mafia in here. Towns don't listen to me, only mafia who are trying to do some bullshit do. | ||
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Race Bannon
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On July 08 2016 06:45 Shapelog wrote: I understand (prob. better then anyone) about looking at your TR's. That I do not have a problem, nor, did I ever say that was the problem. The prob. is that, for me, there seems to be a disconnect of interest. One reason (the react to the case) seem like you sus. me because of it, hell, it really does sound like you sus me of it. But then, you ask me if I wanted you to sheep me, which makes no sense if you were actually sus. of me. I have no problem you attacking TR's here and there, My problem is that. How did you not even see who was pushing it? Let alone, why even push that lynch to begin with, if at the time, your top pick (I feel) for scum (prp) was getting voted for? Koshi (also) was pushing for SL death as well. U don't think he could be scum, and pushing a ML either? It does to me, make sense. I can townread you, suspect you, dismiss that suspicion to a degree which renders it insignificant, bring the issue up on request and ask if you want to be sheeped because I still think you're town and sheepworthy. I have the technology, and it's in the service of trying to figure out the game. I saw it was him but I didn't registerhim as a scumread at the time. Well even if I would've it wouldn't have raised flags because my scumread on prpl wasn't even worth switching off the pressure vote on Vayne for. A lynch on Koshi wouldn't have happened even if I didn't townread him. When was the first alleged scumslip? You mean the Palmar meta search? | ||
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Race Bannon
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- claimed to be greener than a beer bottle from the start of the game, which is an icomprehensible thing to do for a vt if you value your PRs. Whereas mafia use it to legitimize having stuck around for so long later - the push on a uncced sl. Everyone still on the wagon after the claim and after the aftermath discussion is suspicious but Skynx sticks out. The whole sl is even scummier now after the claim can only be justified from a townie perspective to create pressure and make sl slip somehow, even then a very risky and most likely pointless reacrion test. - talks like he knows for 100% certain there's a mafia roleblocker who will render sl ineffective. - slipped when hw came up with Palmar's meta too fast and effective for somwone who would claim vat at the start of the game as town. Tinfoil theory that he's in cahoots with Palmar stands stronger now. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I liked his first post that talked about lynch-viability for D1, but he took that to an extreme, using it as an excuse to not scumhunt at all, and ended up lynching a townie. And not because he thought he was mafia (though he made sure to mention that there was the possiblity that he was mafia) but because he thought he was a "better lynch". No other reason given. I can EASILY see Kush as mafia this game, and to be honest it's going to be hard to objectively look at the rest of the people on my list without this read in mind. | ||
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