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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 16:30 GMT
#425
then I am missing your point. What was the point of your initial post?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 17:20 GMT
#432
On July 07 2016 01:47 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 18:32 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote:
##vote prplhz

I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.

Furthermore, the following post is suspicious:
"I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"


If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up?
Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already...
This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting.
Seems unnecessarily distracting.

Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode.
"Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"

In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum.
Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?

Who do you think are unlikely to be scum together?


Guys, activity is more than just number of posts and number of words right?
It also matters if your posts actually mean something.

On to the question from RB...

prplhz and Koshi are unlikely to be scum together

I am town-reading Damdred, Vivax, Skynx, Shapelog, Palmar?(beyond my reading skills lol).
Also, I suspect that Koshi is town even though he wants to lynch me for low activity, he is using #logic.

prplhz, RaceBannon, kush seem most scummy to me

Especially prplhz/kush mafia combo. Seems like they want to lynch me and sway the vote without contributing much.
Since I know that I am town, the fact that they both want to lynch me obviously makes me suspicious.
Hopefully it is not just because I have drawn attention to both of them at points, if they think that my logic is bad, then they should attack my logic and not attack me.


Why are you not commenting on sicklucker? He has been talked about maybe the most by everybody.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:14 GMT
#463
On July 07 2016 02:43 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2016 01:47 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 06 2016 18:32 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote:
##vote prplhz

I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.

Furthermore, the following post is suspicious:
"I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"


If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up?
Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already...
This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting.
Seems unnecessarily distracting.

Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode.
"Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"

In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum.
Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?

Who do you think are unlikely to be scum together?


Guys, activity is more than just number of posts and number of words right?
It also matters if your posts actually mean something.

On to the question from RB...

prplhz and Koshi are unlikely to be scum together

I am town-reading Damdred, Vivax, Skynx, Shapelog, Palmar?(beyond my reading skills lol).
Also, I suspect that Koshi is town even though he wants to lynch me for low activity, he is using #logic.

prplhz, RaceBannon, kush seem most scummy to me

Especially prplhz/kush mafia combo. Seems like they want to lynch me and sway the vote without contributing much.
Since I know that I am town, the fact that they both want to lynch me obviously makes me suspicious.
Hopefully it is not just because I have drawn attention to both of them at points, if they think that my logic is bad, then they should attack my logic and not attack me.


Why are you not commenting on sicklucker? He has been talked about maybe the most by everybody.


I did not comment on sicklucker (or the others that I did not mention) because I don't have a strong feeling either way for him.

Do you really expect me to have a solid read on everyone? Most participants haven't given nearly as many reads.
I am not going to make a random guess on him... don't see how that would really help the town.


fair. I was just wondering.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:24 GMT
#468
On July 07 2016 02:57 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:51 Vivax wrote:
Nobody still seems to have realized that SL has never been trolling about him being mafia, but Palmar claimed he did.

Even Koshi called it something along of "Palmar pointing out a scumslip".

What SL did was talking about him-as mafia-in an earlier game.

The scumslip Koshi talked about was sicklucker saying "He should appear town to you" instead of "He should appear town to us" or something like that.

I don't buy it but Koshi made a big deal out of it.

this is a blatant lie. I didn't make a big deal out of it.

##unvote
##vote prplhz
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:31 GMT
#471
On July 07 2016 03:14 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Reads so far:


Heineken Town: Shape, Koshi, Palmar, Damdred
Stella Artosis Town: Vivax, VE, kush

Null: VA, DCW
Orange Juice Maf: SL, haze, RB
Tomato Soup Maf:


How am I null if you have almost the exact same reads as me?

Do you think that I am playing a hella deep game or something, lol?

This is an extremely townie post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:32 GMT
#472
On July 07 2016 03:29 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 03:47 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote:
like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.

Grow some skin

Wonder why he didn't type

"for all we know"


maybe it is nothing.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 19:21 Koshi wrote:
if sl is mafia he spewed me town so hard. lol.
It looked so much as a slip anyway. kinda hilarious.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 21:17 Koshi wrote:
Sicklucker did 4 things that are more likely to come from scum in the 20ish posts he made. It is almost too scummy to be scum.

1) didn't read concentrated enough and made a mistake, jumped on a person with false reasoning, only to find out later when he reread and then downplays it on an odd trying to be funny way. (happens more to mafia than town. true fact)

2) possible scumslip. As he said "Palmar could have been mafia for all you know." Really strange that he didn't write "for all that we know" (+he didn't think for a second I was faking rage)

3) underplaying own skillset in finding mafia to get away from pressure. Or explain pressure.

4) "I might be back before deadline if it suits my agenda." (favorite mafia sentence, almost all mafia make this sentence in some sort of form. Deadline is as always and I don't remember sl as somebody who misses deadlines.)

----

and that are just the things that I think mafia sicklucker does more likely than town sicklucker.


on the other hand...

Is sicklucker so obvious at being mafia?

but


he is for sure not town because he had that 1 townie post and his general play "is not scummy" as you want to make it.


You mentioned it in three (3) posts even though it's absolutely nothing.

"big deal" in the sense that you're making much more out of it than you should, not in the sense that everything you do revolve around it.

Anyway, pretty good case you've got there. That was a blatant intentional lie about a crucial detail of the game, so hey, what can I do?

I didn't make a big deal out of it. The end. I don't care. My vote sticks on you. sicklucker getting defended too much anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:34 GMT
#477
so funny palmar so funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:34 GMT
#478
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

yes. Palmar.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:38 GMT
#481
Palmar, people (not me) has been saying that Vivax has an "extreme retarded town" meta. (not words I would use)


Kinda looks like that here? Like... Isn't he kinda too wrong to be scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:45 GMT
#485
On July 07 2016 03:41 Vivax wrote:
I kinda want SL to flip now just so I can be condescending towards certain people.

Like 3-4 people thought he could be mafia.


btw some1 asked me who defended sicklucker and I think Brannon did as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 18:45 GMT
#487
On July 07 2016 03:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:41 Vivax wrote:
I kinda want SL to flip now just so I can be condescending towards certain people.

Like 3-4 people thought he could be mafia.


btw some1 asked me who defended sicklucker and I think Brannon did as well.

and those people you think are mafia...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 19:30 GMT
#518
On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote:
You are right, I didn't reply to this:
"Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much."

No, I have never played forum Mafia before.

And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going.

DCWasabi,

Can you please please please use quotes instead of this bold italic thing you are doing?

Thank you.
All people in this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 19:34 GMT
#521
Town:
Skynx (solid play, at least 3 posts that makes him rather town over mafia.)
Shapelog (the things he does look like they come from town trying to solve the game.)
Vivax (to others: I would leave him alive due to meta and the fact he can't keep this up as mafia, easy read later.)


Townlean:
nnn_thekushmountains (Overall very positive play. however,I think he can play like this as mafia, but he made 1 really good post that came very likely from town)
VayneAuthority (too chill, not trying to influence thread too much, not putting himself in a position he will be able to influence the thread in the future. meta)
Palmar (I would be really surprised, just looking at the right places imo. but this really definitive last couple of posts were really meh. I don't know. Maybe this thing he is doing is mafia, But most likely town for now)

not lynch:
DCWasabi (1 good post. going to keep him in the game for that. )
Damdred ( the thing with the towncircle etc looked dangerous to do as mafia. You generally don't want to townread everybody so fast, his play is underwhelming as fuck though. But he tends to have those moments. I would give him till tomorrow.)

mafia:
sicklucker (explained)
prplhz (makes really silly posts)
VisceraEyes (Just Nope)
Race Bannon (Last posts had maybe a townie tone, but the strong / extremely weak moments are just confusing me)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 19:46 GMT
#529
Hmm. prplhz making a list right when Vivax and I do it... dnu, might keep him in just for that. Let me think about the list:
On July 07 2016 04:32 prplhz wrote:
okay d1 resume town tier list (and more):

Skynx Palmar Koshi Race Bannon DCWasabi

rest are iffy tier

Skynx is actually reading through old games and stuff.

Palmar because Skynx meta analysis.

Koshi because for now I'm just gonna assume that he really got super mad about some minor things which seems townie enough.

Race Bannon because mafia 101.

DCWasabi seems alright for a newbie. I actually liked his case on me.

Rest didn't make much impression on me.

Would not lynch tier:

VisceraEyes looks sort of good but he didn't do much, especially last night when he was like "Wow 5 pages!" and then he didn't actually do anything. It's this looking-good/not-doing-that-much thing that disturbs. Maybe I'm just used to him being more vocal.

Vivax is kind of the same thing. Didn't really do much to make me think town but he seems sort of level headed all the time while still pushing odd stuff. nnn_thekushmountains too.

Could be persuaded to lynch with relative ease tier:

Damdred, VayneAuthority, sicklucker.

No idea tier: Shapelog.

Don't really have a clear scum read on anyone, just a bunch of people I think are town and a bunch of people I think I would get a better idea about if they were around for another day and then the rest.

I don't like the townreads AT ALL. Almost not a single one.
skynx town cuz he reads old games? ez much?
Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work?
RB cause mafia 101? I don't even know what that is.
DCWasabi townread is like ... w0t?

The 3 null reads are better.
Suspicion on VE
Vivax and Kush reads are based on his own reads which might indicate he is not faking his own reads? Or at least is doing a good job picking out players who made posts not agreeing with his reads.


Not having an idea on Shape is also w.e
on the one hand, not so hard to fake one as mafia
on the other hand, not so hard to make one as town.






I don't know about this prplhz guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 19:49 GMT
#530
On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.

(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.

The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive.

Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town.

I am a good guy you know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 20:28 GMT
#552
I think prplhz is maybe not the right lynch.

His null reads were ok?
and his list post was "on time" ?


Why is VE town guys?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 20:32 GMT
#555
On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote:
1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case?

2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me?

Are you talking to me? I am extremely tired atm. So dnu wtf I am still doing up tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 20:42 GMT
#563
On July 07 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:52 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.

Ah ok,

Anything there to help your read on us?

Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam.
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.

No. This list is terrible. So don't take any reads from it. It is basically me trying to convince myself I have a
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 20:47 GMT
#566
On July 07 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:52 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.

Ah ok,

Anything there to help your read on us?

Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam.
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.

No. This list is terrible. So don't take any reads from it. It is basically me trying to convince myself I have a grip on this game while I probably don't have that.

The list changes quickly in my head atm.

Like Palmar is going down, because I don't believe town Palmar leaves town with those last posts. It created too much chaos. Didn't direct town in the slightest.

RB is going up. Was going up when I made the post and still is.




I don't know. prplhz kinda put him in this position by making "bad" posts that mafia might not make because they don't want to die and make sure town might like what they write. It isn't so that we "caught" prplhz doing anything that pushes mafia agenda.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2016 20:58 GMT
#579
On July 07 2016 05:55 Damdred wrote:
I could get behind a skynx Lynch though, he's been pretty passive from a filter read and not getting really down like he did last game.

His town game is really good, I think it's a good lynch at this point. It's where I think we should go/presaure

Last game he had me as coach and I pushed some of his reads out. I think he would have been a little bit less strong without me in his back. Not sure about this of course.

But like I said in the start. I actually see him more as a lynchbait player who can dish out very decent reads. Last game he went away for hours just to make 3 one liners and go away for hours again.

I have no problem with his reads atm. I also don't have a feeling he is being here pretending to be town and contribute or pushing an agenda as mafia. Can you proof he is?
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