EPTAnyway sk is it just jean now for you as scum? Or do you have anyone else you are thinking of here?
I won't have time before EOD to post a last second read post so I'm going to treat this like lylo and figure out people as I go.
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Damdred
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Anyway sk is it just jean now for you as scum? Or do you have anyone else you are thinking of here? I won't have time before EOD to post a last second read post so I'm going to treat this like lylo and figure out people as I go. | ||
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Damdred
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Also can you take me through your thought process EOD that led you thinking jealous was only scum earlier to seeing people go on chez and decide chez was most likely scum. What made jealous drop a few spots in your estimation for not being the scummiest anymore? | ||
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Damdred
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Also why did you move moosey from your ignore list to suddenly Lynch moose last second? His play really hadn't changed much over the day I think. | ||
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Jealous
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On July 01 2016 00:11 Damdred wrote: You lacked a real driving force EOD to try to get people back on me jealous tbh. It's all fine and well to have what you consider the best case in the game, (which I've answered every point to in a coherent fashion) but if you don't really take part in the Lynch it's really for naught. Anyway sk is it just jean now for you as scum? Or do you have anyone else you are thinking of here? I won't have time before EOD to post a last second read post so I'm going to treat this like lylo and figure out people as I go. Well, I did respond to Skynx and whoever else would say "there's no real case on anyone else right now tbh," and etc. I also argued against the Jean lynch at the end, which in essence is the same as arguing for people to reconsider you. I also pushed Jean to read my analysis. I pushed, but once people wagoned on Chezinu I didn't see anything else I could say that hadn't already been said. I wasn't entirely averse to a Chezinu lynch either, even though I still would prefer to lynch you and that hasn't changed as of now. | ||
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Damdred
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Even meta aside jealous if you reached hard enough in anyone's filter you could find 10-15 posts that are inconsistant. Also ignoring your scums game and posts since the case is not how to get them lynched either. If it's still that case which I argued against pretty effectively it's rather out dated and incomplete | ||
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Damdred
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If you would of pushed more effectively you could of gotten me lynched at the end instead of chez maybe, though I doubt it as most the game towns me now. Either way that's more post game than present. And not an insult | ||
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Damdred
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I know I'm town Sk is well reasoned and Towny, though as you go later put more pressure. Jealous is town even though he's super tunneled. Just by effort alone super is town GB is confirmed Art is town by filter length trying to figure out the game I think hes never going to be scum So games not to to hard I'll focus on the others. | ||
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Jean Valjean
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I'm back to tictock is mafia | ||
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Jean Valjean
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Superbia
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Damdred
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Superbia
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On July 01 2016 04:02 Damdred wrote: Yeah I forgot super but yeah super town probably What? are you drunk? | ||
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Superbia
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Damdred
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On July 01 2016 03:30 Damdred wrote: But aside from that there are several curious things in jeans filter. I know I'm town Sk is well reasoned and Towny, though as you go later put more pressure. Jealous is town even though he's super tunneled. Just by effort alone super is town GB is confirmed Art is town by filter length trying to figure out the game I think hes never going to be scum So games not to to hard I'll focus on the others. Yeah I just misread I'm in a hurryvsometimes | ||
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Skynx
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Artanis[Xp]
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On July 01 2016 04:30 Skynx wrote: Who's around? I'm gona post big stuff soon. I'm kinda around but watching Poland - Portugal. Would advise waiting until right before deadline. Also, smurf-related question: How easy is it to pause a game of overwatch to post on TL? | ||
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Damdred
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Artanis[Xp]
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On July 01 2016 04:54 Damdred wrote: It's an MMO so probably would die no? Isn't it like a shooter kinda game? If it's like CoD there might be modes where people stay dead for a while. At this point I'm just trying to justify my smurfread at all costs though. | ||
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Skynx
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+ Show Spoiler [GB] + On June 27 2016 00:42 GlowingBear wrote: I have Tumble as probably town for his interest in the game and the way he was putting thoughts on what I've wrote. Downside is that I don't remember him giving any reads. + Show Spoiler [Jealous] + On June 27 2016 04:59 Jealous wrote: Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler + Pretty weak play so far. Has only posted one or two substantiated reads. This quote from him sums it up: "like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now..." Don't like him so far, but not enough to say he's scum. + Show Spoiler [Damdy] + On June 29 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote: ... I guess tumble is possible but doubtful I think... ... Just Lynch jealous then weigh tumble sk. Lynch chez by the third if he hasn't contributes. Then you are in mylo, hopefully GB is alive to pardon to force a 2 v 1 that's the only time to ever really go for Jean. On June 28 2016 15:15 Damdred wrote: Like I'm really sure art is town and super is town GB is confirmed So that leaves, jealous, tt, sky,jean, sk, tumble Pretty sure tw is town in that group, Jean probably is to just alight paranoia + Show Spoiler [Arantis] + On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Absolutely 100% confirmed town Chezinu Town Damdred Skynx Tumblewood Quicktwist Townish Subparbia -power gap- Emperorarechampion Null GlowingBear Jealous MoosyDoosy Mildly leaning mafia Jean Valjean Lean mafia Ticktock On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate. No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that! On June 27 2016 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Eh I'm kinda fine with both Jean and Tumble getting it too. Pretty confident in both being town atm. On June 27 2016 19:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I have a hard townread on TW and I don't remember entirely why. I think it was because his read development and inquiries felt very natural. He also helped push away from me getting lynched both by reading me townier and by proxy of pushing TT whereas it would be in mafia's best interests to get me lynched and assure it. On June 29 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just scrolled through Tumble's filter to make sure. Way too relaxed to be mafia. On June 29 2016 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Big list o' people town should never lynch Artanis Damdred GlowingBear Tumblewood Skynx 100% confirmed town BFF Chezinu On June 30 2016 06:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, uhh. A thought came to mind. Tumblewood made a tonne of sense during the game and made lots of observations that I didn't think scum would make. Them I remembered Tumblewood in the game he played with Tina as town made absolutely no sense. Kept forgetting his own reads and forged stuff that he only found later. Clearly he must be scum because he's making too much sense and is playing too well. + Show Spoiler [JVJ] + On June 26 2016 20:16 Jean Valjean wrote: I would like to remind everyone that I am running for Mayor. I am absolutely certain I am the best person to hold the office. In order to help my bid here is a quick summary of my reads and reasons for them: Tumblewood: (True Null) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806659 On June 27 2016 00:06 Jean Valjean wrote: .. As with Artanis, you are another player that has no excuse to scumread me at present, so I'll do you the favor of adding myself to your townlist. This means you're townreading the following people: Artanis Damdred Chez Tumble Superbia Jean QT .. On June 27 2016 19:38 Jean Valjean wrote: I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that. On June 29 2016 21:13 Jean Valjean wrote: .. Tumblewood has been more backgroundy than most, but every time I read posts by him I just think he doesn't sound like what mafia would sound like. I'm sort of letting him off as town. .. + Show Spoiler [TT] + On June 26 2016 14:05 Tictock wrote: Humm I think I've decided I want Tumble to be the mayor. Dude is very obviously town and has a solid head on his shoulders. ##Vote: Tumblewood On June 27 2016 08:20 Tictock wrote: Oh Tumble... My point regarding Art's meta on me is that he's doing it so shallowly. I'm much more stagnant in my reads as town than as mafia and am decently well know to tunnel people for days. Hell even just look at last game where I was tunneled on Super going into the last day before rereading stuff and being convinced by Jealous my thinking was probably not on point. "You don't know me" is about as valid of an argument I can think of when someone is pushing a shitty meta argument on me. On June 27 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote: I'm still about 10 pages (little less) behind and am gunna have to finish catching up later. Here is where I am at (not in any particular order) Town: (prob never lynching) Tumbleweed GlowingBeer Supbarbia QuickTwister On June 28 2016 19:14 Tictock wrote: Though tbh I think I'm mostly locked into Damdred because of PoE at this point. I don't really see Chez being scum atm, but I also don't really know how to read him. I tonally read both Tumble and Jealous as town but I'm not sure I have really solid reasons to think they are for sure. Everyone else I'm fairly confident in being town. There was also a comment I recall Damdred making about Emp that I thought was weird, stands out even more with Emp flipping town. Gunna see if I can find it, then I'm doing morning stuff. On June 30 2016 06:13 Tictock wrote: Eh, it's possible but I think that game you are reffering to was one of Tumble's first games? His play has evolved quite a bit over time... though by that same thought it's possible he's playing a fairly solid scum game. + Show Spoiler [Super] + On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote: I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1. Town: - Art - TW - QT On June 27 2016 04:10 Superbia wrote: I'd much, much rather see tumblewood take that position. + Show Spoiler [Me] + On June 26 2016 19:00 Skynx wrote: both roles take priority for having given to 100% townies before experienced players. That being said, both persons should be confident of their votes and not easily being swayed by other opinions (See Jealous last days of Newbie mafia). GB and TT give me that feeling most with Tumble being next on the list, you can also vote for me btw. Super is null for me so far and he's swingy in votes anyway and shouldn't be given the role. Rest should not even be discussed. On June 26 2016 19:05 Skynx wrote: I'm thinking GB is more confirmed town than Tumble atm. Chez would prolly make a worse pres than our PM. [QUOTE]On June 28 2016 03:49 Skynx wrote: Fully caught up now. Here's a list. Full town: GB, JVJ, TT, Super Sort of town: Jealous, Tumble, QT Null: Chez Sort of scum: (tempted to put Chez here) Super scum: emp, Art, Damdred Tumble was as afk as me in last 24h so I'd give him some objective discredit for that. Otherwise I like his posts. /QUOTE] This actually took quite some time so here's a TL;DR: Everyone has Tumble as town for a variety of reasons but nearly everyone has some doubts and again most people sometimes don't remember why they even townread him at first place. More to come. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On July 01 2016 00:38 Damdred wrote: Jean could you tell me what your one reason for wanting to tr ec was? You said you would talk about it during the night but never did Also why did you move moosey from your ignore list to suddenly Lynch moose last second? His play really hadn't changed much over the day I think. Yes, the one reason to think EC was town was that he tried to get the presidency. In hindsight he didn't really push for it and thus I should have been far more suspicious of him, but at the time I was looking for anything, even flimsy, to help sort people into categories. I think I talked about it somewhere in my filter that scum almost never succeed or even genuinely try to win mayoral elections. It's almost always (as this game is a good proof of) townies. Regarding Moosey, he hadn't been posting while I was around, which sort of faded in my eyes how blatantly trolly and scum-favored his posting direction was. When he came back and started doing it right in front of me I made the logical choice to go after him, I explained it in my post where I announced him as my lynch target. Essentially, and as evidenced, he was objectively the most scummy player in the thread (could be proven to be playing with a scum agenda), but in my subjective opinion he wasn't the most scummy at the time. My own posting both at the time of announcing him as a lynch target, and prior to his flip, show the thought progression I had. | ||
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