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Damdred
15669 Posts
On June 27 2016 05:58 Jean Valjean wrote: I think you're mafia. I don't think moosy is mafia. Idk I know you say your progression on moosey, but here you have it that you don't think moose is mafia. You also think super is the most guaranteed mafia at the time of the Lynch. Can you explain why you lynched moose over super exactly and why you didn't think he was scum at the end? A sort of horrid question but just go with it for now. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote: That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice: Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point. Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine. QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far. On June 27 2016 02:51 emperorchampion wrote: So yeah, I'm going for a bike ride, hopefully I'll be back before EoD. I think I'm just going to park my vote on Tumble for now. Scum always have some kind of objective with their vote. It's also not a town mentality to not vote for a common candidate. "Many of his thoughts are echoing mine" is like total bs anyway cuz emp was all one liners up to this point. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
But got to look at tt, jean tommorow. Tw is a distant third atm | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On June 26 2016 13:04 Tumblewood wrote: ok now I focus on ec these reads are not very thought out. you could press the button on generictownreadgenerator.com a few times and get the same results. also his response to gb's questioning is pretty meh, just one step above picking a random post from super's filter. Very hanging read, what does it mean? This is just creating some interaction for some town points, quite useless otherwise. On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote: maybe art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me On June 26 2016 04:02 Tumblewood wrote: tt had a couple posts that felt good I think maybe skynx is def town because he's so clearly trying to solve the game On June 26 2016 08:42 Tumblewood wrote: jean feels a little too obvious to be scum like he has all the tells kinda but it just doesn't feel right not sure how to phrase it Using that word "maybe" a lot. Again pretty safe reads without actually saying a lot. On June 26 2016 12:05 Tumblewood wrote: I'm thinking our best candidate for mayor is super because he's town (and I feel pretty solid about that) and he's not a scrub. More lazy reasonings. Tumble i know from newbie game shows his thought process behind every read. You guys have to consider his posts with a scum pow. He has to reach conclusions he knows he's bullshitting while trying to make sense. That's why most of the time mafia won't post big cases and play safe with just little reads about everyone. That's all for now. If i die tonight please reconsider your Tumble read people. I think he's never as town as we thought he is. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote: Idk I know you say your progression on moosey, but here you have it that you don't think moose is mafia. You also think super is the most guaranteed mafia at the time of the Lynch. Can you explain why you lynched moose over super exactly and why you didn't think he was scum at the end? A sort of horrid question but just go with it for now. I don't know how to make it any more clear to you to be honest. At the time, I felt superbia was genuinely scummy, ie: his posting felt off and I had convinced myself there were good reasons to think he's mafia. Regarding moosy, he was objectively scummy, but I subjectively thought he was just an asshole who was willingly playing against his win condition as town. That being said, I was not certain on superbia, or anyone else really at that point, so I just lynched the player who SHOULD flip mafia, despite my own personal reservations that me might just be anti-town townie. Do you understand the difference between objective and subjective scummyness? Moosy, in my opinion, was mafia because he played in a way that was only beneficial if he is mafia. Thus if we assume everyone plays to win, he has to be mafia because there is no town reason for him to do what he did. Also, the hedging was pretty strong, it's always good to hedge so you can claim to be right later  Either I'm "right" and i lynch mafia, or I'm "right" and lynch a townie who should have been lynched anyway for playing like mafia. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
To me the current situation is something like Artanis, Damdred, Jean, GlowingBear, Skynx, Jealous town Superbia probably town, but less sure Tumblewood probably town, but less sure Tictock most likely scum. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:35 Jean Valjean wrote: Skynx' effort is very useful. To me the current situation is something like Artanis, Damdred, Jean, GlowingBear, Skynx, Jealous town Superbia probably town, but less sure Tumblewood probably town, but less sure Tictock most likely scum. Why is Damdred town now? | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
Because his effort level this night has been extremely high when it doesn't have to be. In addition, his questions about me feel very "right". He's not being superficial or difficult, he's genuinely asking very pointed questions (like the one about me saying there is a reason to townread EC that I didn't want to talk about at the time). It's difficult (but of course not impossible) to come up with that as mafia. I get the feeling he actually wants to figure the game out. Also, it's fucking damdred, I always think he's mafia and I'm (almost) always wrong. But lynching him is fun though, so it's fine. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Also also Poland please. | ||
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm pretty sure JVJ is HF btw. Ego, quality of play and playfulness in general fit, plus going into a game as a smurf with an idea like he had at the start here feels a lot like him. Also also Poland please. Please, I know we've had our differences but no need to be rude. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:43 Jean Valjean wrote: Please, I know we've had our differences but no need to be rude. I didn't mean it in a rude fashion (though I have before so I don't blame you for thinking so). Almost everyone on TL has an ego and I do believe that you acted to get a response. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Jean Valjean
France216 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Unless you were just making the joke that claiming you're HF is rude in itself, in which case if wrong I do profusely apologize thanks, feels better. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Jeans answers aren't bad, pressure him,don't sleep on him. Tt might be scum Tw also could be That's my top | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
If JVJ is in fact HF there's a good chance he's scum. He has a history of bussing and would be one of the few to not give up in this spot. It's mostly a fear/PoE lynch though since he has been quite townie. I may have slept on TW too much. The fact that he's been kinda afk is a strong sign for that and at this time we kinda need to look at the simplest explanation. His activity has shrunk since he's never really been suspected and although he's given some good insights I felt were unlikely to come from mafia. Main thing I remember is On June 29 2016 06:33 Tumblewood wrote: but there were some others.gonna take a break but before that a quote from art that makes him supah town in my mind just a real nice indication that art cares about putting town on the right track. this is an attention-to-detail thing as scum; I don't think scum!art is thinking to include this sentence, I just don't. GB confirmed town. Damdred Skynx Jealous feel like lock town too. Superbia's basically there, leaving TT as well. I think my current order would be TW, then some order of JVJ and TT, probably JVJ first just cause mayor but I really need to read through their filters much more clearly first. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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