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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 19:15 GMT
#1245
On June 28 2016 03:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 03:55 Skynx wrote:
I can expand on reads if required, don't be hesitant to ask.

Why are you hard townreading GB?
Why do you believe that having similar reads means someone's very likely to be town?
Why is emperor in the 'super scum' category, yet Chez is in null?

I am also interested in Skynx' answer to the first question. GB does not seem town to me right now.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 19:41 GMT
#1247
On June 28 2016 04:39 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 04:15 Jealous wrote:
On June 28 2016 03:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 28 2016 03:55 Skynx wrote:
I can expand on reads if required, don't be hesitant to ask.

Why are you hard townreading GB?
Why do you believe that having similar reads means someone's very likely to be town?
Why is emperor in the 'super scum' category, yet Chez is in null?

I am also interested in Skynx' answer to the first question. GB does not seem town to me right now.

[1]GB

This post 1st opened my eyes:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?

No one commented on this save Tumblewood. (also to an extent Art but he was more like ridiculing the idea rather than criticising) I thought it was a good hint at Damdred's 1st signs of being scummy.

He is actively trying to progress the game
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On June 27 2016 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:26 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 00:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Superbia, what are your reads?


Unsure on Damdred.

Very unsure on Art given his last few posts, though I'm prone to stick with my earlier read on him (which is town).

By proxy I'm also iffy on TT. He has been more aggro this game than I expect from him d1.

Outside of those interesting players I would say:
Moosy should die.
EC should die.


Ok but I need townreads

We have to decide the mayor and the pardonner


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2016 12:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 26 2016 12:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.

why though
like, people call koshi bad all the time and it's the same exact thing


Because silently wanting to be elected as mayor is something I would expect from mafia. If I am mafia and I'm seeing town organising themselves - specially when a town player is being elected as president -, I would start to discredit people in order to push my agenda.

It's not like calling Koshi bad. I can call Koshi bad and not vote with him, but if Koshi was the towniest person in the game I would vote him 100% of the times simply because having a bad town mayor is better than risking having a good mayor that could be mafia


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On June 27 2016 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2016 00:31 Superbia wrote:
hbu?


I had QT as top town for the way he was engaging the thread. But he isn't here anymore. Kinda dropped a little but still my top town.

I have Tumble as probably town for his interest in the game and the way he was putting thoughts on what I've wrote. Downside is that I don't remember him giving any reads.

I had you as null to scummy but I like the way you came back to the thread. You're leaning town.

Damdred is leaning scum. I think most of his posts are disinterested, and that makes me suspicious of him. He is not naturally reacting to what has been posted but he is here. He just, from times to times, post reads and chill. The problem is that his town passes looks like the town passes he would give as town.

Moosy I have a gut feeling he is town. Mostly because he was naturally reacting to what I have been posting in here.

I don't know about jealous
I don't know about TT (I have a gut feeling he might be town)

Jean Valjean has very good posts and the only thing that gives me pause is his stiffness. Other than that, a townread.

Artanis usually follows the thread and inquire people more as town than when he is Mafia. I've seen him too defensive in this game. Actually, his approach to the thread seems quite similar to the last game where we played together where he was Mafia.

EC is my lynch of choice today. He needlessly discredited QT for mayor while still townreading him. Had very faint reads on his three townreads (the one on you was the worst). When I inquired him to explain he basically dodged, and when I asked a quotation on where you have being on point, he quoted your list post where you actually were very obscure on why Jean Valjean, with one post at the moment, was almost top town. It felt like he was simply making that up, not really believing in what he said.


Objective gaming. I think all these are some good posts that are constructive and add to the general scheme of town action. Finally this;

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On June 26 2016 12:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:50 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
[quote]

At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


Btw can you quote a post where you think he was "on point"?


So I'll pussy(cat) out on the question answering stand-off since I'm heading to bed meow.

On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1.

Town:
- Art
- TW
- QT

Almost there:
- Chez
- TT
- Jin Valjean
- Damdred
- GB (least sure)

Somewhere:
- EC
- Skynx

On their way out of here:
- Moosy
- Jealous



This is Superbia being on point?
The post where he puts a guy as probably town for his opening only?

Yeah, I can't trust you. You might be mafia.



This conversation with emp is really good. Forces a lot of content out of him when he was all one liner posts. It is after this I went back to re-read emp and got my scumread.

Good points. What do you think of his rise to power/push for mayor? His reaction about not becoming mayor?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 19:48 GMT
#1250
On June 28 2016 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
LOL England 1-2 Iceland.

Fuck yes.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 19:54 GMT
#1256
On June 28 2016 04:51 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote:
SK how did I not comment on it when I see ifically said I disagreed but it was a good thought by GB?

Fibbing doesn't get you points.

Back to date day


I ho early don't know why nobody said this rip

Please man, try to type more legibly ):
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 20:17 GMT
#1264
If this is what some veterans act like around here, I can understand why that drama bomb fell in the ban thread and led people to mention the toxicity of this forum -_-; Straight up childish stuff up there.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 20:25 GMT
#1265
Please focus on the game at hand.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 21:18 GMT
#1296
On June 28 2016 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh forgot about Emperor. Still leaning town for him due to attacking JVJ when no one was.

Besides the fact that you were wrong here, I would like to point out that I was the only one who raised skepticism towards JVJ's campaign. If that's a metric you're going by, I don't see how you put me in a scum category.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 21:19 GMT
#1299
On June 28 2016 06:06 Superbia wrote:
TT why'd you visit QT bro?

Wanderer is still a possibility although unlikely. Also could have been cop?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 21:22 GMT
#1300
Poor QuickTwist though ): I'd be pretty salty if I died D1/N1 2/2 games on TL haha.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 27 2016 21:54 GMT
#1303
On June 28 2016 06:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Confirmed town, impossible to be killed at night.

This is perfect

So let me get this clear on paper: you claim Vigi?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 00:37 GMT
#1321
As I mentioned before there could be a crazy coincidence and he is the wanderer so even if he flips green we cannot instantly call Superbia scum as that would in fact be very dumb. In the meantime I will still vote for TT because that I'd the only way to get the truth.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 00:41 GMT
#1322
That is*
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 02:46 GMT
#1325
On June 28 2016 11:31 Damdred wrote:
Then again he what if super is a rolecop and found out tt was a wanderer and he flips wanderer he can just go on his merry way and get not judgement because he claimed tracker.

Maybe a mass claim of roles would be OK? If we have another information gathering ability with a vig and a claimed tracker we could go from there.

Also if tt was mafia kinda would see him I tantly conceding to.

But I kind of want a mass claim to see if wr have to many pr for it to be true.

If Super is rolecop then there would be two rolecops, which I find to be even more unlikely. If Superbia found out TT was wanderer AND TT visited QT, that would be absolutely insane. I don't see a need for massclaiming as of yet. Let's just see how TT flips.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 05:01 GMT
#1339
On June 28 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually just thought of something else.

If emperor role ops tt and they get the check back in qt the other scum would know tt is a wanderer. Super could go for the mega plat and claim it on tt with no repercussions.

So I don't think a mass claim is a horrid idea to make sure we don't have to many blues

Honestly I don't understand a word of what you said here, probably because I'm newb. Can you explain like I'm 5?

I still don't think a mass claim is a good idea and at this point I am growing suspicious because you keep pushing it when there is only 1 scum left.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 05:02 GMT
#1340
On June 28 2016 13:57 Superbia wrote:
Yoyo im rescinding claim bc we need the rest of day to discuss. Was reactiontes

???????

Why did you do this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 05:03 GMT
#1341
You guys seem to be playing fast and dirty and I don't like it. If one of you could explain what happened on this page post-by-post from Damdred, GB, and Superbia in simple English, I would greatly appreciate it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 05:03 GMT
#1342
Well, rather, the last page (67).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 05:07 GMT
#1344
On June 28 2016 14:06 Superbia wrote:
Bc its d2 and there is only 1 scum left so I could possibly bait out concede ^^

Okay, I can see that I guess. Can you explain the rest of the stuff that happened last page though? Actually, more like rephrase in simple English, please.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 06:17 GMT
#1372
On June 28 2016 14:46 Damdred wrote:
Simple English jealous

Super claims track on tt

Three situations

1) TT was scum that got traxked
2) tt was wanderer but got screwed
3) tt is a vt super does a play or is scum and dying tommorow

There is a subset of points that's probably better described as a big play by scum who's alone

Ec who's rolecop checks tt comes back wanderer
Last scum super sees this and goes jackpot
Claims tracker to coast out a few mislynches as confirmed town.
Claims RB since then as scum is trying to find the bg and has reasons to be alive.

Fact: super has rescinded a claim to bait out reactions or do a play as scum.

I was thinking this makes tt and super probably town though.

Thank you, this makes more sense now.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
June 28 2016 06:48 GMT
#1375
On June 28 2016 15:23 Superbia wrote:
Are you scum Jealous?

No.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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