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On June 01 2016 09:37 supersoft wrote: hmm should i join this one, or should i wait for the next big game to start, to unleash my comeback on tl-mafia :-D One of us. ...
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Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.
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I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.
##Vote: KelsierSC
He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town.
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The only conclusion I gave was that I don't think Palmar and Bugs are on the same mafia team, and I think that's self-evident from their posts, as I said. The way bugs votes him, asks people about him, interacts with him, it just doesn't look like mafia-mafia.
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I also think it's silly how he introduces his introduction by calling it an introduction.
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On June 07 2016 18:43 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 18:37 VisceraEyes wrote: I also think it's silly how he introduces his introduction by calling it an introduction. silly as in scum? or silly as in a guy who has made 6 posts overall on TL. Silly as in silly. As in Spongebob caveman silly. *facepalm*
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Like my vote just keeps getting better and better. I'm so sure you expect me to believe that you aren't familiar with Spongebob Squarepants.
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On June 07 2016 19:52 Koshi wrote: I don't know what that picture means. So you are looking just stupid atm VE. I'm okay with that honestly, all that really means is that none of you are on my level. Get gud son.
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On June 08 2016 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote: VE what do you think of Palmar not posting at all? Has he done this recently as town? I don't really know what Palmar has done frequently as town, though I think he HAS done it as town in recent games I've played with him. It's not enough for me to say I think he's mafia for it, that's for sure. I'd expect more of an agenda actually.
I'm now willing to add Shapelog to the townpile and Koshi probably too, though I disagree with his read on Kelsier. I still like killing Kelsier right now, though some of the more potent lurkers are totally gaining on him for my ire.
The thing I don't like about Kelsier is how he went from joking around to super srs in one post. Like it's around a period of no one really socializing and everyone kinda getting to business (at least that's what I remember from last night's skim) and what he's posted today hasn't really done much for me the way it has Koshi. Not really sure what's smart about what Kelsier has said that Koshi likes.
Anyway, that's what I gots people. Still voting for Kelsier, until the shenannies start happening and people start making actual reasoned accusations. Mine is feels. Deals wit it.
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On June 08 2016 10:44 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 10:30 Tumblewood wrote: people who literally made be so bored that I literally died literally: ve people who literally made me laugh so hard that I literally died literally: chez shape that one time I dare you to say ve is mafia and see what happens I dare you to say chez is mafia and see what happens. Both are equally hilarious. + Show Spoiler +but ve might be mafia (spare me) Say that shut one more time.
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On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote: tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list
really town sl koshi
sorta town kelsier palmar
null ls rels
done nothing of note ve kwahamot chezinu
scum team damdred shape wbg
I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this. Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs)
That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless.
##Vote: Tumblewood
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Although I do like that post by Bugs about Shapelog. :/
My perspective on Shapelog was that I was leaning town on him. There's something about how he's bitching that people aren't playing the way he wants them to so he can make his reads his way that just seems hard to fake as mafia.
I don't think Bugs is accounting for indecision and insecurity when he talks about not knowing Shapelog's reads. At least that's how I see it. I like the post, but think it could be wrong. Also I almost refuse on principal to lynch the person with the largest filter D1.
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Oh and I'm now fully on board with a Palmar lynch Bugs, just throwin that out there.
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On June 08 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Shapelog
Not against this lynch after that post from wbg. My hipster self would like to vote VE again. Really dislike how he nitpicked something in TW his listpost to discard credibility and make TW look bad. While the overall quality of that listpost was pretty good for a replacement. It's not nitpicky, it's a fact. Palmar has done dick and I've done things. Townie things. You obviously disagree, but you're apparently unable to recognize townie things when townies do them. That's not my fault.
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On June 08 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote VisceraEyes
fuck wbg. Again. LOL.
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Like I hope Koshi votes me the whole game and never gets me lynched and we're both town and I drag him kicking and screaming to victory.
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Also I'm pretty sure he just hates Americans, so there's that.
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Neat, like that's a really cool story bro. It doesn't make me mafia at all though, OR bad. I'm right, it's ridiculous. Maybe I'm wrong and he's town, but that list is totally invalid to me.
Now I've stated very clearly that my vote will only be important around lynch time, who I'm voting for right now should NOT be how you're basing your fucking read of me. Stop being bad.
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Like you're basing your whole read of me based on how "bad" you perceive me to be, implying that you know anything about my play. If you did at all, you'd know that my vote is ephemeral and that I'm active around lynch times. There have been exceptions, especially lately, but this is my meta and it's always been how I play town. You need to reevaluate me fast or you're going to have a bad time.
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On June 08 2016 17:54 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 17:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I hope Koshi votes me the whole game and never gets me lynched and we're both town and I drag him kicking and screaming to victory. Why do you say this? You said the exact same thing to me last game you were mafia. But like word for word. ... w.e I think we will lynch Shape anyway. And like I said, I'm only like, partially against that lynch, based on feels. I liked Bugs' post.
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On June 08 2016 17:54 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 17:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I hope Koshi votes me the whole game and never gets me lynched and we're both town and I drag him kicking and screaming to victory. Why do you say this? You said the exact same thing to me last game you were mafia. But like word for word. ... w.e I think we will lynch Shape anyway. I say similar things as town and mafia. I mean it as town, I'm pretending as mafia. It's part of the game Koshi.
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On June 08 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote: and I am not reevaluating anything. You are mafia. And you will be for a very long time most likely. I appreciate your frankness. And your willingness to be indescribably mistaken.
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Like I know you Koshi, you're going to tunnel me until one of us dies. And that's totally fine, I've accepted that about you. It's actually a little endearing. <3
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I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.
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I kinda like sicklucker this game. Like, mostly the tone of his posts. Like "Listen up bitches this is how we're doing it"
Unless he does that as mafia and I'm just not aware?
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Anyway this is fascinating, but I have to go to bed. Koshi, I'm town. Kels, I like you more now. You both should think I'm town, and if you don't you're a beautiful flower.
I vow to have read the thread over in its entirety and filtered persons of interest before I post again.
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##Unvote ##Vote: Damdred
I can get down on this I think.
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Like I've seen townDamdred when he's on the block, he typically loses his shit and he CERTAINLY doesn't just spout "If I was scum, X" posts in his defense.
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We got ur meaning Shapelog, dw. He's scummy as all hell. Are you voting for him?
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On June 09 2016 05:16 Damdred wrote: I'm scummy because I couldn't be here 30 pages behind basically and skimming.
It sucks but Lynch me if you want idc No, you're scummy because of what you've chosen to do with your time while you ARE here Damdred, there's a pretty remarkable difference.
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On June 09 2016 05:18 Damdred wrote: Not really there's no way to defend myself I'm giving my opinions from my skim when I am asked. I'm perfectly willing to not vote for you if it seems like you give a shit about this game. That is not how it seems right now. And it doesn't have to do with your activity.
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It's call "appeal to emotion", it's a pretty common tactic among townies and mafia alike, though mafia employ it more often I've found.
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On June 09 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote: Not really emo just really don't care about being lynched to much. You care enough to keep coming back to post in spite of telling everyone you were going to AFK until lynch. Like, you see the disconnect right?
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Also my vote is cemented to Koshi's vote for D2.
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On June 09 2016 07:32 Chezinu wrote:Facts:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote: Oh Palmar. I forgot about Palmar. He scumread both blues.
Goddamn we can lynch Palmar tomorrow.
Brilliant.
VE/Palmar/Chez mafia team. Analysis:Facts:VE/Palmar/Chez BFFs <3 QFT
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On June 09 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote: in open set-ups mafia should have some sort of punishment for claiming roles.
One of my first games it was forbidden to claim any role. I remember Oats getting modkilled for it. It was in my third game. After the Ver game I won as SK. The punishment is supposed to be counterclaim, resulting in an outed mafia. Seems elementary, but if you are not Damdred and also the tracker, it's best to claim tomorrow, not tonight.
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On June 09 2016 08:28 Shapelog wrote:Doc is going to heal who he thinks he needs healing. *inner monologue* Dammit, my plan might be foiled by this. I already am revealed due to Yugi's swords of revealing light, now i need to play it carefully. So long as it's Koshi, I approve. His vote is like vote repellant, and a lot of people talking like VE lynch is good. Need advantages.
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Goodbye sweet bugs. May your cup never empty and your headache be short.
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I'm actually fine with Palmar all of a sudden. It's the strangest thing. XD I would have killed him yesterday, but now I think he's town. Maybe it's because I still don't believe Damdred's claim and he was still on Damdred with me. AFK maybe, but probably not. He despises D1 claims.+ Show Spoiler +Damdred's claim was shit. Like...he didn't act like a Tracker the whole game, he seemed completely divested from the game, which has only been made worse SINCE his claim. I don't know about you, but when I am a role and I claim it under duress, I have a reaction. A hard one. Damdred had no reaction. Like I said - I've seen Palmar play awfully on D1 before, even recently. Honestly I'm gonna have to see what he does between now and tomorrow, if he dies, etc.
I'm not sure about Tumble. I'm having a hard time getting motivated, to be honest. I don't even want to read his super short filter because I know the whole thing just says "Lynch VE" over and over. Same thing with Koshi - I don't even want to try and read Koshi right now.
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Also his would lynch and could lynch are backwards.
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##Vote: VisceraEyes
/salute
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For the record, I'm eating the ban. Peace and love bitches. <3
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On June 10 2016 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:Are you pulling a HF? Please, I've been ragequitting since HF was a nutstain in his mama's drawers.
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Lmao
At work but
Fuck you all. Srs. Fuck you.
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On June 10 2016 14:22 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote: hm damn I might have to reconsider I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something ##unvote ##vote visceraeyes what the fuck? are you the last scum? Lmao
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Watching bugs try and figure this out alone is entertaining as hell. ^^
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Like I'm still town and you are still bad Koshi you have zero room to talk LMAO
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The vast majority of the analysis going on is assuming I'm mafia and I'm not. This is exactly the shit I was talking about yesterday. Like, and yall can blame me all you want, but I contributed D1 and STILL was called mafia by people who should know better. So honestly it's really hard to WANT to fight my lynch when it seems like flipping me would clear up a bunch of shit. I mean like, maybe I'm channeling Alakaslam here, but frankly it might just be best for town if I die.
But anyway, regarding the claims. I instantly voted Damdred because Artanis' claim justified my suspicions which I laid out in my response to Rels? about Palmar and TW (or really just Damdred, as I didn't really feel strongly about either one of the people I was asked about).
I AM town, I realize no one is going to take me at my word on that, but everyone in the game needs to think long and hard about whether they think I'm "too good" to "play poorly as town". I know for a fact that most of the "names" in this game do NOT respect my ability, which really makes me itchy about them all saying me playing bad makes me mafia, but obviously that can't be right.
So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to spend the rest of today cooperating with town as much as I can, on one condition: you can feel free to vote me all you want, get me out of here, whatever - but everyone needs to stop acting like I'm confirmed mafia in the thread at the very least. Continue thinking it in your head if you wish, but keep it out of the thread because I can't take that shit while I'm trying to stay motivated to do shit.
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If Art is mafia I'm still town.
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Can I just say how funny it is to me that immediately after the lynch most of the "names" in the game were instantly like "Mislynch? IT WAS THE GUYS OFF THE TOWNIE WHO ARE THE MAFIA!!!!!"
Just humorous to me.
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You still haven't if that's the case.
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No, I was the easy answer for you confirmation biased ass. I'm not playing the victim, I'm stating fact: several people have been stating with no equivocation that I'm mafia all fucking game. Yes at this point Palmar is the only one I have done more than, but that was NOT the case yesterday when you started calling me mafia. YOU are the one who is to blame for your fucking tunnel on me, not me Koshi.
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On June 10 2016 17:48 Koshi wrote: and tbh I can also still see wbg be the boldest mafia in the world. Really good mafia player if he is mafia. New age of mafia play might come with him. Like I refuse to believe you don't remember bugs. Bugs is literally one of the best mafia players I know. -.-
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Like I think only BloodyC0bbler is the only person better at the role mafia than bugs that I'm aware of. Followed closely by marv. YES THAT IS MY ORDER!
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Well fair enough, my point is that he's good - not that I think he's mafia though, I'm undecided on that. Only that your assertion that he might be playing well is a fair one, if he's mafia he's almost certainly always going to be playing well.
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Meeehhhh....Bugs isn't really doing any of the trappings of "mafiaBugs" that I remember, though to be fair it's been a hot fucking minute since I've played with him. But I DO have good memories of one game in particular, as I was SK and won that game and Bugs was mafia and lost that game to me. Storm Mafia.
It's a good example of what his mafia play USED to look like, years ago. But I don't know how accurate that will be today. Obviously my style has changed dramatically in that time, it's completely unfair for me to think WBG wouldn't have.
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On June 10 2016 18:04 Palmar wrote: There is, btw, no way Artanis makes this play as mafia and it's basically irrelevant whether or not VE is mafia (he actually might be seeing as he decided to be bad and self-vote). There is no upside. If VE is mafia, Artanis just added another free mafia for us, and if VE is town, Artanis basically gave a townie another 72 hours to clear himself.
The only logical conclusion is Artanis is telling the truth and thus Damdred is mafia.
Also, this means Koshi is still bad and I'm still #1 This is also how I see it, I can't see why mafia Artanis would save me to sac himself 1 for 1 for Damdred, our useless Tracker due to RB. It makes zero sense, but obviously that's from my POV where I know I'm town. To anyone else there are other options that I'm not considering.
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On June 10 2016 15:01 Damdred wrote: It honestly makes perfect sense tbh.
Art doesn't want to play as scum Ve scum partner up for Lynch
Art sacs himself give Ve another day gives scum team a ml in the process.
10 v 3 Kwah lynch 9 v 3 Shape nk 8 v 3 Damdred town tracker lynched 7 v 3 Koshi nk 6 v 3 Art scum lynched 6 v 2 Nk 5 v 2 Ve scum 5 v 1 Nk 4 v 1 2 ml needed
If they don't cc me
10 v 3 9 v 3 8 v 3 8 v 2 7 v 2 7 v 1 6 v 1 3 ml needed
It's much harder for one scum to get three ml than two, it's not the most optimal but it's OK
Also this post doesn't take into account the possibility that I'm town, which is important for analysis of Artanis' actions, especially given the "knowledge" that Damdred has that Artanis is for sure 100% mafia. Speaking of which:
On June 10 2016 14:46 Damdred wrote: ##unvote ##vote Ve
Make mafia kill me or let me get a free track. Ve is kind of claiming scum at this point. Who votes for someone that is NOT the 100% lock scum for him? Like...subtracting any suspicions he has about what specific ROLE I might have if I'm mafia, from his perspective Artanis is 100% lock mafia, but he votes ME? Like.....I don't know man, I can't see it as town tracker. It really doesn't make any fucking sense.
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Like it doesn't even make sense if I'm the roleblocker, because if Artanis is mafia and we lynch Damdred instead, we're lynching the last power role that town has - there's literally no point in even trying to save the roleblocker with a play like this. So he sacs himself to what - buy me days that I'm already voting myself using?
Damdred is taking you boys on a fucking ride. I hope you buckled your seatbelts....
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And here I thought you were voting Dam with me BECAUSE of the claim Palmar. I suspect you still would have stuck with Damdred had you been here.
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Okay to recap:
Damdred is always the mafia and Artanis is always the town tracker. I can't think of a situation where Artanis counterclaiming Damdred benefits mafia when I'm 100% of the time getting lynched. I was literally clocked out of the game, I just happened to check the game while smoking a cigarette and Art had CC'd Damdred, which just happened to pull me out of rage-quit mode. Like....what is the benefit for mafia? Say he gets town tracker Damdred lynched. He's ALWAYS the next lynch, and by then he can't be sure that I'm 100% the lynch. Maybe he thinks it's likely? Even then though, why take the chance? Why take the risk when I'm 100% the lynch that day? It's not like Damdred is even confirmed at that point, he's endlessly roleblocked so he can never ever confirm himself without flipping, why would Artanis DO that?
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Maybe it's because the VE=scum sentiment is just that high that he thought it would just fall into place that way. He had to know I'd come back though.
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VE, one of Dam/Art, TW I guess?
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Which would be like the most useless and epic bus ever btw.
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Maybe not LI Toad v VE epic, but you know...
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Oh ya if anyone wants to read a fun game, TL Mafia LI is fun to read. It ended poorly, but the game was hilarious.
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I was mafia, so is relevant if you think I'm mafia this game.
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Koshi "wtf are you the last mafia" is like saying "wtf are you fucking retarded" without breaking any rules I think.
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I WANT to live in a world where the mafia are Rels LightningStrike and Damdred. That's the world I want to live in. Does anyone want to live there with me?
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I'd settle for visitors for a day or two.
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Being mafia gives you a lot of confidence in your reads incidentally.
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On June 10 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:54 Palmar wrote:On June 10 2016 18:47 Koshi wrote: Now I need to read the game in that perspective because I was pretty convinced Damdred was town. maybe, just maybe, the simple solution is that I was, once again, right on day 1. d1 I was on Damdred his ass as well. You also believed his shitty ass claim.
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VE can be shit. Not what you are seeing here. People who know know I'm town. Get fucked Koshi.
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On June 10 2016 22:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 22:08 VisceraEyes wrote: VE can be shit. Not what you are seeing here. People who know know I'm town. Get fucked Koshi. Can you make me a real case on Rels? I already made that town case and I am now so fucking blind towards anything else.... No instead I'll just lynch mafia without you're help. I'm so sick of your bullshit ego I could fucking puke.
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Everyone is capable of getting it wrong. Everyone does, even the best players. Bad!=scum in like any case. And wrong don't always = bad. Ugh, like this sentiment is so poison.
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He didn't, he noticed after joining.
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Is infeasible to you that he got that information chronological while reading catching up?
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Oh that's when shape claimed too. :/
Yeah I'd hear Artanis speak on that.
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On June 10 2016 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 22:08 Koshi wrote:On June 10 2016 22:02 LightningStrike wrote: Koshi I agree with you with VE being scum but it best to lynch into the blue claims. Can VE be total shit? And with that I mean can he be completely wrong and siding with mafia as town? Have you ever seen that? Same for Palmar? Can Palmar be completely wrong and siding with mafia as town? Have you ever seen that? Nothe this extent on VE. Yes I had seen palmar mafia side as town it just rare. I wish my sig was large enough for this whole post. But no, I'm right this game. LOL
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Psh. I'm playing for real. Tell ME I'm not playing for real. You're not playing for real.
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On June 11 2016 02:51 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 02:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Chezinu, given that all blues are on the table, who else does your red/blue colour-blind detector notice? Koshi... but that b/c Koshi has a history of being an infiltrator mafia like sicklucker... despite the enthusiasm, I just don't have the trust factor there. They knew Damdred was going to get lynch no matter what. So might as well go for delay it. Of course, this all depends assumes Damdred is mafia. You see, I has no heart to go against you. Cause you've been around for a while. Is this really what it is? It doesn't feel like that - it really just feels like I think he's mafia
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I would just love for Palmar and Bugs to NOT be on a team with Artanis, because that would really really fuck up my day in a very serious way that I can't even consider.
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Like that's my nightmare right now - that Palmar and Bugs and Artanis are all mafia and they're all fucking with me.
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On June 11 2016 01:18 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Psh. I'm playing for real. Tell ME I'm not playing for real. You're not playing for real. You think Artanis is scum? Talk to me about who scum is in this game, I know you wanna. It's pretty obvious I think Damdred is the fake. Beyond that it's kinda hard to say - I want to say LS, he's on the wrong side of the claims for one, and for another like lurker said he's really REALLY sure about his reads at a time when everyone should be questioning their reads. It just feels very mafia.
For the last, I'm really trying hard not to think that one of you or Palmar has to be mafia, and to that end I'm looking at Rels/TW. I've intimated my issues with reading TW, several think he's strongly town, so mostly I'm willing to roll with that, leaving pretty much Rels to me. Everyone else I think is pretty much really obviously town.
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Like look at Rels' D1. He makes a post calling out several people, even qualifying his scumread on me.
Rels where did your scumread on me go after that last link? You never mention me again except while defending Damdred, someone who was in the list in the first link. I kinda took your explanation at face value at the time, but I didn't realize that you had said earlier that you wanted to kill myself AND Damdred - where did those scumreads go and how did you end up pushing for the newbie lynch?
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Rels you're spending an awful lot of time justifying this scumread on Damdred. Like...you didn't spend even close to this much time yesterday either trying to get him lynched or trying not to - why are you making such a show about "coming to this conclusion" about Damdred that's pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point?
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I'll lynch fucking anyone who says that they think that Damdred is mafia and that I'm mafia with him. I don't care if it's fucking Artanis, I'll lynch the mfer
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On June 11 2016 04:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll lynch fucking anyone who says that they think that Damdred is mafia and that I'm mafia with him. I don't care if it's fucking Artanis, I'll lynch the mfer That is what I think. With Palmar as a third. But no worries if you're town you have lots of time to prove it. Like in spite of me being on him D1, SHADING him N1 (BEFORE A COUNTERCLAIM), THEN D2?!!? Like that's the bus you think I'm driving? Cause I gotta say - My CDL expired about 5 years ago.
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Also I have a whole deck full of Quick Topic Scum QTs in which I FUCKING RAGE at teammates for bussing. So like - if you REALLLLY wanna go down that road we can go down that road Rels.
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Yesterday Game Yesterday, D1. He was on your lynch list early on and then you switched to defending him. Weakly.
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On June 09 2016 05:31 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I've seen townDamdred when he's on the block, he typically loses his shit and he CERTAINLY doesn't just spout "If I was scum, X" posts in his defense. Dunno. Like, I agree that is my expectations, but how he's acting seems townie too because as scum, I think he would fake emotions because he's known for that. He would tryhard so close to the deadline I think
On June 11 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:06 Damdred wrote: Idk what you guys expect with like an hour in game.
I'm just going to afk I'm not the Lynch so bye Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:10 Damdred wrote: Lol if I was scum I would of just afk up to the Lynch. Just haven't had time or access Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:16 Damdred wrote: I'm scummy because I couldn't be here 30 pages behind basically and skimming.
It sucks but Lynch me if you want idc This series of posts is suuuuuper scummy. Damdred is playing for survival here at any cost, which is understandable as blue, but this last line "Lynch me if you want idc" is hard to imagine coming from a role. Plus he fucking had the time to play since he continued to make posts continually until deadline, so the "I don't care I'm AFK" is not logical too. This reeks of scum trying everything to survive. Well for starters yesterday you defended him for NOT doing the exact thing you're calling him scum today for DOING.
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FURTHER, all of the posts you quoted in your accusation just now occurred BEFORE the post in which you defend him for NOT doing the things you're saying MAKE him scum today. Like.....really dude?
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On June 11 2016 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote: FURTHER, all of the posts you quoted in your accusation just now occurred BEFORE the post in which you defend him for NOT doing the things you're saying MAKE him scum today. Like.....really dude? Look at the timestamps again. All of the quotes happen in a 10 minute span that is 20 minutes BEFORE the post where you defend Damdred. He didn't KEEP posting after he cliamed, his claim was like his last post.
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So what you're saying is that when you were talking about Damdred YESTERDAY about your read of him, speaking with authority on his meta (i.e. I expect X as scum, not seeing it), you were doing so NOT having read his filter? Like...really Rels? Keep digging buddy.
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Like I appreciate you trying this bus, I see that it's like your only option right now, but you're going to have to get your story straight if you hope to beat Palmar and Bugs, let alone me.
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If by "super ridiculous" you mean "incredibly astute and damning" then I agree!
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On June 11 2016 04:43 Damdred wrote: Or maybe this is a scum v scum conversation. Really rels v Ve feels like there is at least one scum arguing and feels a little fake anyway. And then there's the other option, TvT, which is also possible! Damdred for someone who has more information than anyone else supposedly, you're sure wishy washy on the state of the game right now!
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Okay nevermind. I thought I remembered something huge from earlier, but it was nothing.
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On June 11 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Like look at Rels' D1. He makes a post calling out several people, even qualifying his scumread on me. Rels where did your scumread on me go after that last link? You never mention me again except while defending Damdred, someone who was in the list in the first link. I kinda took your explanation at face value at the time, but I didn't realize that you had said earlier that you wanted to kill myself AND Damdred - where did those scumreads go and how did you end up pushing for the newbie lynch? I'm scum because I scumread VE a little bit and I scumread others a lot more and I push my main scumread a lot more ? Bad. Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Rels you're spending an awful lot of time justifying this scumread on Damdred. Like...you didn't spend even close to this much time yesterday either trying to get him lynched or trying not to - why are you making such a show about "coming to this conclusion" about Damdred that's pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point? I'm scum because I took the time to evaluate who to lynch when I already had the perfect excuse to stay on Arta if Damdred is my partner ? Bad. Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote: FURTHER, all of the posts you quoted in your accusation just now occurred BEFORE the post in which you defend him for NOT doing the things you're saying MAKE him scum today. Like.....really dude? I'm scum because I make a different conclusion taking the posts in 3 mintues and traking the time to read Damdred's entire filter ? Bad. Bad bad abd. Scum very likely I can't wait until you make a case and try and get me lynched ^^
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On June 11 2016 04:42 Damdred wrote: Hrmmm yeah I don't think Ve will flip scum here tbh, if he's going to get voted off he should of cc me instead of art I think.
Like it implicates him to much with my flip. Like you have to Lynch Ve after my flip then arts. And then down to one Lynch and a slew of candidates.
I kind of think ve is town no matter what
On June 11 2016 04:45 Damdred wrote: Trying to figure out which it is but no doesn't feel like t v t.
Trying to see the world where you flip town Ve Which is it scumbag? LOLOLOLOL
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Its like his read is literally based on whether he likes what I'm saying currently. If I were mafia and you were town this game would be so fucking easy LMAOLMAO
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Like this game would be mine IN SPITE of the fact that I'm on everyone's radar, because NO ONE HAS ANY IDEA WHO THEY THINK IS MAFIA EXCEPT FOR ME AND THE MAFIAS!! LOLOLOLOL
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Ahhhhhhh boys that's too much for today! I'm gonna go play some HotS I think.
Damdred....don't go survivin on me!
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No worries, I think Koshi actually had an aneurysm earlier so you're actually not the worst off!
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On June 11 2016 04:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 04:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Ahhhhhhh boys that's too much for today! I'm gonna go play some HotS I think.
Damdred....don't go survivin on me! What's your blizz ID?  VE#1668
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I don't get that same concession? Because you've been calling me scum all game, so from my POV they're bad too.
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I will probably wait until F3 to lynch Chez - I hope that's not the Mafia's plan O.O
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Artanis I trusted you. I trusted you Artanis.
Betrayal. In a game of Mafia. No one said it would feel like this.
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On June 12 2016 06:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2016 06:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 12 2016 06:28 LightningStrike wrote: Lex just die you are 100% mafia no way you would get notified about going somewhere as a wanderer. I'm not gonna die for at least 71.5 hours though, and I'll use it to clear my name. I challenge anyone to counterclaim my wanderer claim. I dare you. If no one CC's I'm basically still confirmed town. I'll cc you on that. I'm a wandering townie How did you know did Damdred PM you or something illegally?
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Jesus Fuckery we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1. Worst game ever.
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So at what point does Palmar being so wrong about D1 become incriminating?
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On June 12 2016 06:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2016 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote: So at what point does Palmar being so wrong about D1 become incriminating? It's Rels/WBG/LS man. Don't get distracted from the truth. I'm willing to indulge you only so far, and it's not right now bby.
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I'm wandering between playing for town and mafia this game. lol just kidding just mafia.
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As long as Koshi is allowed to remain in the game after his latest bout of posts, I'm fir real not posting on this game again.
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Like there are very explicit rules about how we treat each other in games. We toe the line, but Koshi has gone well pay modkill/replace.
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Is up to the hosts now. Koshi is modkilled or VE is.
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Koshi eats bans for this, he knows better. He's modkilled or I am. I honestly don't care about the outcome of this game while we are both in it.
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Like I'm sorry to everyone this affects, the scum team about to win or whatever. I do still want to win, but not with players allowed to speak to each other like that. It's not a game anymore at that point, it's something to be endured and I'm good thanks.
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I didn't sign up for that shit. And yes, I'm sure he didn't sign up for this shit either, but that doesn't mean he gets to treat people like that.
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Like and he's not even fixing talking to me! He thinks I'm mafia playing him, he's talking to everyone else!
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I am deadly deadly serious btw, I said it and I meant it earlier, this isn't a game to me anymore. As long as we both are in this game, I'm self moderating it. One of us will be modkilled before D3.
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*nod*
Thank you hosts.
I'll be back after the daypost to share my thoughts. I'd do it now, but there's literally no way I'm the kill tonight so no fear of not getting thoughts out there and I've much to do outside this game.
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##Vote: Artanis[Xp]
Nice claim sir.
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I think the next person I want to lynch is LightningStrike. I was afraid that I was just OMGUS at first as he's been on my shit all game, but having gone back over his posts, a lot of it seems like it's coming from Mafia.
On June 09 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Welp that sucks a lot. Both of our blues been outed now and we lynched a townie. Shapelog tried to do shannies onto WBG in the last 5 minutes which would of made it impossible to do. This post right here. I believe this post betrays LightningStrike's informed position. Like, even if he strongly believes both claims, which I can't imagine because both of them were given under threat of lynch, making a statement like "both of our blues been outed" just seems too strong to come from town. Especially considering the fact that he was so "distrusting" of the claim BEFORE the lynch, observe:
On June 09 2016 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:Wait wtf you are ccing Shape?
On June 09 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote: sicklucker if you are ccing vote Shapelog now. If you not you causing a mess.
On June 09 2016 05:49 LightningStrike wrote: Man my head is confused now about sicklucker vs Shape in terms of claiming. Sicklucker claiming Shapelog's claim is fake. Ugh I want oru tracker to get on one of them and see which one is telling the truth.
On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote: Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2. Sicklucker hadn't claimed anything, he just exhibited what is, in my opinion, a TOWNIE'S reaction to someone claiming under duress - saying "ITS FAKE!" Like...I don't know, that's been my experience anyway. I'm initially distrusting of claims, especially claims under duress. And at first it SEEMS like LS feels the same way, but directly after the lynch he just says "Both our blues outed", which as it turned out, they were. Damdred and Shapelog WERE in fact, both of our blue roles.
This is essentially the most damning thing I found in his filter. There's a bunch of being horribly wrong about me, but Koshi the Townie was wrong about me so obviously not only scum want to lynch me. I'd be really surprised if NO mafia wanted to lynch me though - I've given this town every opportunity to want to lynch me, and at least one confirmed townie has been calling for my head, it seems inevitable that at least one mafia would follow suit, but that's really meh and like, how do you tell the difference?
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I know I said WBG is a fantastic mafia player, but I honestly believe that the play he's exhibited this game is outside his mafia range, especially coming off a hiatus for however long. I think WBG is always town this game, from reactions to in-thread events to the way he's moving and shaking town, I just can't see it coming from mafia WBG. He can take it as an insult or a compliment or however he wants, but it makes me think he's town.
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Le sigh. He was someone else I filtered overnight. -.-
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Okay so....anyway I'm town and yall need to rekonize.
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On June 13 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote: Nothing has changed. Rels is 100% mafia. The last one I'm not sure. Maybe Chez, maybe SL, maybe Tumble, maybe I'm bad and it's VE.
I think LS has to be town for his failing at taunting artanis. I don't think he can fake that. I don't even know what you're talking about with regard to LS.
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How one uses the internet slang salt has nothing to do with his alignment. He could be using it wrong trying to be seen taunting Artanis as his partner.
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Man, the last mafia is Palmar/LS. Final answer. And unfortunately I can't beat that team.
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On June 13 2016 20:32 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I will refute this case from VE refgardless of his real alignment: Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 18:18 VisceraEyes wrote:I think the next person I want to lynch is LightningStrike. I was afraid that I was just OMGUS at first as he's been on my shit all game, but having gone back over his posts, a lot of it seems like it's coming from Mafia. On June 09 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote: Welp that sucks a lot. Both of our blues been outed now and we lynched a townie. Shapelog tried to do shannies onto WBG in the last 5 minutes which would of made it impossible to do. This post right here. I believe this post betrays LightningStrike's informed position. Like, even if he strongly believes both claims, which I can't imagine because both of them were given under threat of lynch, making a statement like "both of our blues been outed" just seems too strong to come from town. Especially considering the fact that he was so "distrusting" of the claim BEFORE the lynch, observe: On June 09 2016 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2016 05:46 sicklucker wrote: shapelog is fakkke claimingggg Wait wtf you are ccing Shape? On June 09 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote: sicklucker if you are ccing vote Shapelog now. If you not you causing a mess. On June 09 2016 05:49 LightningStrike wrote: Man my head is confused now about sicklucker vs Shape in terms of claiming. Sicklucker claiming Shapelog's claim is fake. Ugh I want oru tracker to get on one of them and see which one is telling the truth. On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote: Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2. Sicklucker hadn't claimed anything, he just exhibited what is, in my opinion, a TOWNIE'S reaction to someone claiming under duress - saying "ITS FAKE!" Like...I don't know, that's been my experience anyway. I'm initially distrusting of claims, especially claims under duress. And at first it SEEMS like LS feels the same way, but directly after the lynch he just says "Both our blues outed", which as it turned out, they were. Damdred and Shapelog WERE in fact, both of our blue roles. This is essentially the most damning thing I found in his filter. There's a bunch of being horribly wrong about me, but Koshi the Townie was wrong about me so obviously not only scum want to lynch me. I'd be really surprised if NO mafia wanted to lynch me though - I've given this town every opportunity to want to lynch me, and at least one confirmed townie has been calling for my head, it seems inevitable that at least one mafia would follow suit, but that's really meh and like, how do you tell the difference? Sicklucker is actually known for doing stupid shit at times especially with blue claiming. In fact sicklucker did fake claim blue in Imperial Mafia as a VT so hence my comment if he fake ccing he was making a mess. Then Damdred claimed hence m comment about both blues being outed but then the fact DAy 2 I tried to lynch before Lex cc'd Damdred then we had to lynch them so you trying to say you gave us every opptertunity to lynch is bullshit. Noone really wanted to lynch Day 1 except maybe Shapelog if I remember correctly.. If you are scum ya goodluck mislynching me in fact I only been mislynched once past Day 2 so you going after me past Day 2 is cute at best. Try harder trying to mislynch people. If you playing this badly as town I probably just will avoid playing with you for a while. this is one of the first games I've played in a long ass time because of shit like this. And obviously it's going to be my last for a while. Yes, I'm town. Yes, I'm having a bad game. If that's enough for you to avoid playing with me, then that's your loss. It's certainly not mine.
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On June 13 2016 20:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 19:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 13 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote: Nothing has changed. Rels is 100% mafia. The last one I'm not sure. Maybe Chez, maybe SL, maybe Tumble, maybe I'm bad and it's VE.
I think LS has to be town for his failing at taunting artanis. I don't think he can fake that. I don't even know what you're talking about with regard to LS. He's right on that regard though. LS is always scummy as town, you can't read him via that metric. But by his natural tone he's not scum this game You can't read him by X. But he's not scum because of X.
Your argument is invalid.
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Palmar, what's your read on Chezinu?
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But he's done things.

I hate that you don't have a read because it makes me think you're mafia even though I think you're town.
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Like I said I thought you were mafia earlier but I didn't really, that's just me giving up. Like, I feel right now the same way I feel that first game where you fucked me in the ASS Palmar, that's how I feel. And I feel like it makes you mafia. But I think you're town. What do I do?!!??
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I literally forgot Tumblewood was playing. Is anyone townreading Tumblewood and why?
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On June 14 2016 04:31 LightningStrike wrote: Me because he been doing his own thing pretty much and alwyas look scummy to most people regardless of his alignment. Doing his own thing isn't really alignment indicative, so you're saying that you have literally no reason to townread him?
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Like I bet you a hundred dollars that if you go look at a Tumblewood Scum game he is "doing his own thing" in that game too. Like, I get that you don't like me right now LS, but I'm asking for something a little more than "Because!"
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TW Will you look at my post on LS and tell me what you think? Humor me plz.
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Do I seem like I'm trying hard to you? :/
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Like even if I'm mafia, this isn't what VE trying hard looks like brother. You weren't around when I got the majority of my 18k posts.
I've been trying, but certainly not hard by my standard as either alignment. <3
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On June 15 2016 16:51 Chezinu wrote:I could try painting a picture but the MS Paint game was cancelled.
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I would do anything for love, but I won't do that.
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If you're asking about Lightning's assertion that I'm scum for voting for myself, it's ridiculous. I think Personality 2? Is that the one where Mocsta pissed me the fuck off and I posted my role PM in the thread? That was going to be my method of self-moderation this game btw if it had come to that. Anyway the point is I've been known to ragequit as either alignment. His reasoning is not legitimate.
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It wasn't that one, it was some other one. I'll find it if you want, but people know that about me. Lightning is just wrong. I don't know if it makes him mafia or not. I don't think it does. The evidence as he sees it might support his claim.
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I would never do that as either alignment. Like I wouldn't call for his modkill if I thought he was mafia to try and get rid of him that way either - I thought was town in fact. I was just offended at Koshi's play and would rather not play with him. I would have accepted the modkill if the mod hadn't felt Koshi had broken the rules.
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If I'm scum or town I would have called for his modkill this game based on how he played. I would never call for a modkill to gain a strategic advantage.
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You say I didn't do much shit, I say I did. And you say I would rather not do shit, but I did do shit. I in fact got the town Tracker lynched instead of the counterclaiming mafia. So like, you can make up all the shit you want to justify your vote, but at least come correct with it. I'm not NOT doing shit, I'm doing shit that you don't like and you want to lynch me for it. Problem is none of it makes me mafia, you just think it does and you're wrong.
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Like town will probably lynch you if you keep on about it because pretty much no one thinks I'm mafia now except for you, so if I were you I'd probably just shut up about it.
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Like, if you really think I'm mafia then find my partner and build a case against them. Preferably a better one than the one you have on me.
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Your opinion means nothing to me in that regard.
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Like please avoid me, for real. Save me the trouble.
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In the meantime I'm just going to be sitting here NOT getting lynched because in spite of how bad I'm playing, most everyone is correctly reading me as town. Except for you. The "good" one who wants to lynch a townie. *slow clap*
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Dont forget to place your useless vote when day starts to sweetie.
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Wait maybe you ARE town....
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Look you can hate me all you want but if you are town then you need to realize that I'm on your team. We are at a point that townies need to be together, so just keep your mind open to the possibility that maybe you don't think I'm mafia and you just want me dead because you hate me.
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I can work with haters. There are way more haters than not.
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Palmar for sure. You'll notice the way he approaches the game changes over the course of it - but in an opposite way than what a townie would. Decreased involvement with more information. Also he was wrong on D1 which is pretty much his self proclaimed scum tell. I'm still looking for #2. Was kinda hoping/assuming it was you.
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I don't think sleep is an option? Maybe I'm wrong ima check
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Oh we can. Um. ..no. After nk is 3v2 right? Sleep = lose?
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Incredible, someone else who was probably never ever voting for VE! :OOOOOOOOOO
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There are 6 players no? Who's left?
Myself LS Rels Palmar sicklucker TW
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Yeah no, we're not sleeping. Like, we COULD sleep, but there's no point. Mafia will just make the kills they need to set up the lylo they need. It's better to try and get it right now rather than just sit around and wait until mafia have set us up for a loss. My opinion.
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I don't know about Rels. He could be mafia, but Palmar pushing on him is strange. Like if they're partners why? And if they're not I certainly would rather lynch Palmar than Rels.
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I mean I get that, but there's no point. Think about it, you've been on MY ass for two days, they certainly haven't been planning for you and I making amends in the eleventh hour of the night, why go to the trouble when they could just both vote for me and fuck off?
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Like that literally gets them the win today, without any kind of "play" or "risk" or anything right?
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I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking it. TW can you explain why you think Rels is mafia without using Palmar's case at all? Palmar's case isn't doing it for me.
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Hmmm...maybe that's it. Maybe Palmar's case is just so bad that he's counting on people NOT voting with him on Rels - instead counting on VE hatred to carry the day.
I can see that maybe - the "case" is literally based on Rels' one post against Kwat or whatever...or rather, the fact that he doesn't let it go all game. Problem is people were ALREADY looking at Rels...it doesn't make sense to make ANY kind of case against your partner if people are already looking at them UNLESS you intend for them to die. :/
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I'm not lazy, just busy. While demanding that I play "more townie" is an exercise in futility, I admit to a slackening of my interest level in this game. I am still trying to win though. I still think Palmar is mafia and I'm willing to bet the game on it. If no one else is that sure of anyone though,
##Vote: No-Lynch
here we are.
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There is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar.
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Ridiculous, I've been a paragon of townieness. That you lot don't see it is your failing, obviously. People who are town and die know I'm town, and you should listen to dead people.
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Further, Palmar is obviously mafia, and you are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
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I said it earlier, but everything LS said plus this game feels like my first. Palmar raped me as mafia. It wasn't pleasant. Just hanging back and letting town kill itself. Insidious.
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Like look at the way he most recently defends himself. "If you think I'm mafia AND I'm right about Rels and he's my partner, then you're dumb" Just so mafia.
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He'll just get on and scream about Rels some more right? I mean, that's all he can do.
##Vote: Palmar
For the record, I'm not voting to get him to type more things, I'm voting him to lynch him because I think he's mafia and we've let him skate by long enough. I don't know why you guys vote someone and then say "Now, this is just to make you do things"...like if they're mafia and they do things what then guys? What then?
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Then you lynch VE because that's who you REALLY want to lynch. Well I'm not going to have it. I don't care what Palmar says when he comes back, you better still lynch him and not lynch me. I'm town and I will NOT be the losing lynch. At least, not today I won't. Maybe later. But not while Palmar is alive.
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On June 20 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote: infact of all of chez reads in the game his read on me is actually the only one that can be explained. Im going to asume you all know of the chez rule except tumble. On day 1 in the game I baited the new played into reading chez. He said he was town so he didnt fall for the chez rule but because I specifically asked someone who I thought had never played with chez to read him is why I was his top town read. I also think this speaks highly of sicklucker town.
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Like can sicklucker do that as mafia? Yes. Does he? Debatable. I think not.
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Okay so having gone back and filtered Rels I'm now confident that the mafia team is Palmar/Tumblewood with myself Rels and sicklucker being the remaining townies. I have solved the game from my perspective.
The way it looks to me is this: sicklucker is very obviously town for being one of the only people in here actively trying to solve the game. Rels and Tumblewood are in here recently, but there isn't much game solving going on, mostly just one calling the other maf/bad and the other taking offense. So from my perspective sicklucker is the easiest read left in the game.
After going back to reread Rels I found that there were several instances of him doubting Artanis' claim and bringing that shit to the thread, at a really important time during the formation of the "doc factions". From my perspective this pretty much clears Rels - obviously mafia don't want to bring attention to their fake-claiming partners, so going back and being like "Hey this part is weird from Artanis" rings townie for me at that time.
So that leaves me with Tumblewood and Palmar as the remaining mafia. Palmar's magic trick is coming in here and calling everyone bad until they don't lynch him. That trick is busted boys, don't fall for it.
Again, we're lynching Palmar today and then we're starting fresh tomorrow, but from my perspective it's Tumblewood.
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I mean, he was in Camp Artanis - unless I'm mistaken he ended up with his vote on Damdred that day and the next day he was fully in camp Artanis until Damdred flipped. If I squint really hard I can see Tumblewood acting like Damdred is town while calling him mafia, but that might just be me seeing what I want to see.
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Hmmm ya I've got that backwards. I was thinking the paint thing was saying that Damdred was mafia and Artanis is town. That wrenches things. But yeah, like I said - we have time to sort that out after Palmar dies. I can't see Palmar being town in this group of players, knowing I'm town and thinking SL is town. Of the three of you that are left, Rels TW and Palmar it's a no-brainer to me.
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On June 09 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 1 final Votecount
Visceraeyes(0) koshi kwahamot(6) rels, damdred lightningstrike koshi koshi sicklucker chezinu rels(1) sicklucker kwahamot Kelsiersc(0) Chezinu, visceraeyes Shapelog (1): sicklucker wherebugsgo koshi tumblewood palmar, chezinu lightningstrike koshi sicklucker LightningStrike (0): Damdred Palmar (0): wherebugsgo Damdred (3): Palmar koshi, koshi, Palmar visceraeyes shapelog, Shapelog, tumblewood chezinu sicklucker (0): Shapelog tumblewood(0) visceraeyes chezinu Damdred wherebugsgo (1): shapelog
not voting , KelsierSC,
Everyone who was still on Damdred at EoD1 is still alive today. I want to know what kind of sick sadistic fuck is responsible for that. I know I'm town. Palmar and TW are on that wagon too - I have a hard time believing that 100% of it is town. Like...especially knowing the new player is about to flip town, ya know? And knowing that townies were pushing him?
It all just kinda adds up to "100% mafia between Palmar/TW" to me and again, to me it's a no-brainer.
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Town just needs to follow me. Fuck all that shit everyone else is sayin. VE is going to lead you to victory.
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On June 09 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 1 final Votecount
kwahamot(6) rels, damdred lightningstrike koshi koshi sicklucker chezinu
rels(1) sicklucker kwahamot
Shapelog (1): sicklucker wherebugsgo koshi tumblewood palmar, chezinu lightningstrike koshi sicklucker Damdred (3): Palmar koshi, koshi, Palmar visceraeyes shapelog, Shapelog, tumblewood chezinu
wherebugsgo (1): shapelog
not voting , KelsierSC,
Observations: Maximum of 2 mafia in the votes Mafia confirmed not on WBG and Rels and Shapelog Rels only question mark of players with votes on them at EoD1
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On June 09 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 1 final Votecount
Visceraeyes(0) koshi kwahamot(6) rels, damdred lightningstrike koshi koshi sicklucker chezinu rels(1) sicklucker kwahamot Kelsiersc(0) Chezinu, visceraeyes Shapelog (1): sicklucker wherebugsgo koshi tumblewood palmar, chezinu lightningstrike koshi sicklucker LightningStrike (0): Damdred Palmar (0): wherebugsgo Damdred (3): Palmar koshi, koshi, Palmar visceraeyes shapelog, Shapelog, tumblewood chezinu sicklucker (0): Shapelog tumblewood(0) visceraeyes chezinu Damdred wherebugsgo (1): shapelog
not voting , KelsierSC,
Also townies were the only ones to vote the only flipped mafia all of D1. There are also a lot of instances of townies voting for question marks today - Koshi voted on me, WBG voted on Palmar, Shape voted on SL, chez and Damdred voted on TW.
Basically this was a well-crafted end-game scenario, and of the players left I think only Palmar could have set this up.
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I'm here Palmar and I want to kill you. Change my mind if you can.
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On June 20 2016 18:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 18:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here Palmar and I want to kill you. Change my mind if you can. Maybe take your vote off me and put it on Rels? That's not doin it for me. I already gave reasons why I think Rels is town. He shaded Artanis when the lines were being drawn, I think that's town. I kinda skimmed ur case, but I think ur mafia so I don't know how deep I want to go down that rabbit hole.
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On June 20 2016 18:44 Palmar wrote: It'd be nice if one of the townies showed up to talk to me. I think this is implying that I'm mafia. That's hilarious.
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On June 20 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 18:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 20 2016 18:44 Palmar wrote: It'd be nice if one of the townies showed up to talk to me. I think this is implying that I'm mafia. That's hilarious. Is there another solution to the game? Convince me sl or tumble is mafia? I've given reasons for thinking what I do. You're just saying that's your solution. I'm trying to figure it out, you're just claiming it's all figured out. One of those is town and one is mafia. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure out which is which LAWL.
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Like maybe I'm maf-siding but you just come across as caught scum right now Palmar. You're just clinging to this Rels mafia read saying "there's no way he's town this game" over and over, suddenly saying I must be mafia because "there's no other solution" like come on. You haven't even been here to say "hey you know I'm reading through your filter now and I don't know", you don't even HAVE a filter for me to go through. Like get real man.
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Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline.
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On June 21 2016 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline. see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours. Says the guy 100% on Rels fir 3 game days. Get outta here.
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Also from the guy who was 100%on ME being mafia for the first 2 game days lol. TW reads mean nothing.
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It's not throwing a game if it was never led. If you're town you should have tried to look more townie on the short bursts you WERE here. I take no credit for this if you're town.
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SL knows who the villain in this story is.
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It doesn't even seem good, he's taking something that's townie that you're doing (trying to consolidate your vote with people whom you consider town in the eleventh hour) and turn it into something scummy (cheerleading a different lynch than you're on). IT's really underhanded and manipulative, but this is mafia Palmar we're talking about.
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Like if any of the townies AREN'T voting with me then we lose. Period. That's where we're at and that's ALL Palmar and TW want to accomplish. One vote, off Palmar.
Don't give it to them.
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Don't act like you weren't high when he escaped bro.
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Yes if Palmar is Mafia then I'm obviously looking long and hard at Tumble tomorrow, being the person pushing the hardest for a non-Palmar lynch today.
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On June 21 2016 05:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2016 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Like if any of the townies AREN'T voting with me then we lose. Period. That's where we're at and that's ALL Palmar and TW want to accomplish. One vote, off Palmar.
Don't give it to them. yeah fuck it this guy is the other mafia, calling it now. Why? For calling for consolidation 10 minutes to deadline? You're ridiculous LMAO
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I'm more of the opinion that the blues lost the game if you're town, but that's neither here nor there.
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Yeah I said what Palmar said, only arrived at the opposite conclusion, that he's probably mafia with TW. *shrug*
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He might be the sleeper mafia with Palmar.
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gg bbyz. Sorry about the modkill bullshit, but I honestly can't handle that shit anymore and would have gladly eaten the modkill.
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How did Tumble not switch to Palmar after he saw SL switch? That's what I want to know
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Like he did it with a whole minute left, I was playing Heroes and even /I/ saw it in time
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No man, I can assure you there was much more time than that LOL
That's why last minute changes are risky, the wrong person might see it in time.
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On June 21 2016 06:26 Tumblewood wrote: I play on mobile 80% of the time including this entire deadline Ya and that's fine, I figured it had to be something like that. No biggie.
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I mean, at some point it started to look like mafia was TRYING to make me look town with all the framing. I just assumed town saw through it in the end, but honestly it was probably just people reading me for the emotional shit wrongly.
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On June 21 2016 06:29 Tumblewood wrote: every time I'm wrong on something like this I make a rule for myself that if I ever think someone is 100% scum (or shape is anything) I should vote the opposite because it's always wrong and "this time is the one" every time Yeah this is a big problem a bunch of people get into.
Tehre are no 100% tells. There are no things that 100% make people mafia 100% of the time. I feel like while you didn't cite anything specific like that, I think that you fell into a similar trap by convincing yourself that X + Y + Z = mafia 100% of the time.
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TW the reason I was considering you so strongly for mafia was BECAUSE of how certain you seemed about things. That's one of the things I see that makes people mafia 100% of the time but not really - people who are way too sure of their reads are mafia to me, see my Palmar read. It's because mafia have more information and at this point are trying to push agendas, it just looks mafia to me. But it doesn't always make people mafia.
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On June 21 2016 06:32 Rels wrote: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM MAD WE LOST No worries, SL had us by the scrote.
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Oh we totally could have won. If we lynched Palmar there we could have figured it out. But ya it was an uphill battle I thought SL was for sure town
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On June 21 2016 06:44 sicklucker wrote: If koshis doesint die its interesting . I think were still big favorites we just kill koshi and have to get chez or tumble lynched. I would like to think palmar would have tried more. I think palmar is a huge fan of trying as little as possible to win like me Palmar is a hufe fan of trying as little as possible in general. Luckily he's adapted this "right all the time" style as town where he doesn't have to try, which affords him a "never lynch" status as mafia. It's really frustrating to deal with when you're not on his team.
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UGH this is also why no lynches are the fucking WOOOOOOORRRRRRRSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT
Because that was one more vote that mafia had to get off Palmar. TW being stuck on Rels might not have mattered yesterday. LS was seeing the light.
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GG mafia. Next time, Gadget.
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Btw it was nice playing a game with you that didn't end with me seeing red and vowing never to play with you again bugs. ^^
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