Also more post game. If I get lynched here and we lose I'm only #3 on the blame for loss list.

#1 is koshi who failed to argue his pint in which he was correct about the claims and then cost us a mislynch by being modkilled. Possibly worst town play of the year.

#2 damdred for claiming his blue role on day 1 and still getting mislynchef.

If I had a blue role to fall back on id never be mislynched.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 19:48 GMT

#2247

Stop talking about got.

Sl you never answered. Your vote is on me why do you think I'm mafia and why do you think my case one Rels is invalid?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 19:49 GMT

#2248

Well maybe not invalid but it should be enough for you to lynch him over me tonight

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:00 GMT

#2254

On June 21 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like I think individually rels has been more scummy but your inactivity has just made your more likely to be with more people in my mind. Maybe im wrong on you like im still not decided but im certainly not lynching tumble today

Yes that's not a good reason to lynch me. You lynch the scummiest player today NO MATTER WHAT. If you kill me the game is lost right here.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:32 GMT

#2285

Jesus christ one of sl/ve is throwing this game out of fear

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:36 GMT

#2289

Sl focus on game. Vote rels

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:36 GMT

#2290

Look this Rels bullshitting about tumble while casually lynching me. 100% mafia

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:50 GMT

#2305

No this is a terrible voting situation because the game is being lost.

Like jesus sicklucker you need to get your head out of your ass. You're literally not voting the guy who by your own admission is more likely to flip mafia because of some wifom about possible teams?

please don't throw the game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:50 GMT

#2309

On June 21 2016 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if any of the townies AREN'T voting with me then we lose. Period. That's where we're at and that's ALL Palmar and TW want to accomplish. One vote, off Palmar.

Don't give it to them.

yeah fuck it this guy is the other mafia, calling it now.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:51 GMT

#2311

On June 21 2016 05:50 sicklucker wrote:

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some prove of his partner would be cool. like I can totally see both of you being a team infact I half expect it

THEN KILL HIM FIRST.

That at least gives me some time to convince you that you're wrong and bad.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:52 GMT

#2314

On June 21 2016 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes if Palmar is Mafia then I'm obviously looking long and hard at Tumble tomorrow, being the person pushing the hardest for a non-Palmar lynch today.

this fictional tomorrow thing you speak of will not exist.

But meh

remember, Koshi lost this game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:53 GMT

#2316

On June 21 2016 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Why? For calling for consolidation 10 minutes to deadline? You're ridiculous LMAO

Does it matter?

Main thing is I intend to yell at sicklucker for being bad after the game ends. This is just so I can claim I knew the scumteam.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:53 GMT

#2318

Koshi lost the game, with damdred a close second. But Koshi is clearly worst player.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 20:57 GMT

#2327

On June 21 2016 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes if Palmar is Mafia then I'm obviously looking long and hard at Tumble tomorrow, being the person pushing the hardest for a non-Palmar lynch today.

This is such bullshit.

It's not about looking long and hard. If I was mafia tumble would HAVE to be my partner because any other partner (rels, you, sl) would be able to swing the vote here.

Which clearly fucking means I am not mafia or I am mafia with Tumble.

AKA I AM NOT MAFIA.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 21:02 GMT

#2351

CHAMPIONS AGAIN

Highfive Artanis and SL!

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 21:03 GMT

#2354

On June 21 2016 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
phew im glad that stupid dog was found so I could hammer

your diatribe about hardware problems and lost dogs was pretty golden

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 21:04 GMT

#2355

anyway game of thrones time.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 22:09 GMT

#2434

On June 21 2016 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
gg bbyz. Sorry about the modkill bullshit, but I honestly can't handle that shit anymore and would have gladly eaten the modkill.

I 100% agreed with you on that VE, you were completely right.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 22:17 GMT

#2438

In general, I don't want to comment too much on town play, there were some good things and some bad things, but the mafia team really worked out pretty well. Artanis made a ballsy claim which was possibly the best play in his situation because it allowed us to take out a blue and thus give us an extra shot we could use to kill either bugs or koshi, both of whom were really threatening. This gave sicklucker and I enough time and leeway to maneuver into a position where we could simply stay hidden until the end of the game. Sicklucker did an excellent job at exploiting this opportunity and was basically universally townread.

We also had a pretty strong day 1, we were very much active participants in the day 1 wagons.

In general, it was a very good example of a "role based" mafia strategy, where every member of the team does whatever he needs to do to work towards a common goal. Organized and well played guys, it was very enjoyable.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

June 20 2016 22:24 GMT

#2447

On June 21 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote:
Well I am very sorry about that modkill that lost town a ml but townies being full retarded also lost us a ml and knowing Palmar was still not lynched made it unsalvable anyway.

I'll eat the ban and probably be calmer next games till I can't take it anymore.

Good job on FF for the modkill. It was correct. Good hosting.

Koshi, ignore all the trolling I did in game, it was mostly for strategical purposes (calling you bad after your death).

You really, really need to learn to adjust your tone and message. You have three objectives as town and you're probably the best player on TL Mafia at one of them (not getting lynched), and you're definitely good at the second one (finding mafia, excellent job this game). But you truly suck at the third pillar of good town play which is convincing town organize around your ideas and do as you say.

I know it's super tempting to just blame it on "well they're bad, they should listen to me", but this is the most underrated skill in mafia. No one just comes in and has immediate sway over the way people play, it takes time and it takes touch. You have to read every single player to understand what arguments or encouragements they might respond to. Some people you have to abuse, others you have to hold their hand while they get there.

And yes, I know it's a bit hypocritical for me to talk about this because by now leading town comes very effortlessly to me, I'm playing behind a "big name" and people in general are going to pay attention to what I say, but that hasn't always been the case.

It's both the hardest skill to appreciate and the hardest skill to master.

I'm sounding all lecture-y here, so sorry about that, but it's been my agenda for years to help people understand and remember this very important part of playing this game.