Names Are Hard mini mafia - Page 50

On June 09 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Oh Palmar. I forgot about Palmar. He scumread both blues.

Goddamn we can lynch Palmar tomorrow.

Brilliant.

VE/Palmar/Chez mafia team.

On June 09 2016 07:32 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:



Analysis:
Facts:

VE/Palmar/Chez BFFs <3

On June 10 2016 10:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
holy fucking shit both of his scum games in the db have 30 pages of filter

On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog

tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:













and, next post, emphasis mine:



Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".





5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:





(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)



I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.

On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog

tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:













and, next post, emphasis mine:



Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".





5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:





(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)



I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.

On June 08 2016 17:23 KelsierSC wrote:


This is a really good post.

On June 08 2016 23:39 Rels wrote:

This is a good post.

On June 10 2016 10:29 wherebugsgo wrote:




hmmm wtf

why did they both say this

On June 10 2016 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
hi!
What did I miss?

On June 10 2016 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:


not much, other than you're scum. and VE dies today.

On June 10 2016 10:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

My role PM disagrees with your assertion.

On June 10 2016 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:


yeah well that's something scum would say.

you're scum. Tell us your reads, at least you won't be dying today. You have some opportunity to prove you're not scum, even though you actually are.

On June 10 2016 10:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I literally replaced into the game 5 minutes ago so I have no idea.
Also not scum.