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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:14 GMT
#2161
On June 21 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:09 Rels wrote:
Now my answer:
On June 21 2016 03:03 Tumblewood wrote:
ok I was gone for less time than expected
rels, if my reads didn't involve since the start of the game and I'm really wure of them, why is that an indicator that I am scum and not that I was mostly right and confident in my reads?

1. cause town are almost never 100% right this early in the game. The last post that called all the mafia in D2 in a game was by rsoul in Himalayas, and it was so impressive she got a 2015 reward from that.
2. cause scum has an harder time changing reads than town because they need to fabricate the reasons for this change.

what I did not "100% right" though, it's 3 for 5. plus if I were scum I know not to be super right because being good is probably a scumtell for me.

LOL
This is a funny defense (= I hope I'm right and you're scum so we can laugh about it post game (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:15 GMT
#2162
On June 21 2016 03:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:02 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:00 Palmar wrote:
On June 21 2016 02:50 Rels wrote:
On June 09 2016 10:38 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed even more 100% accurate reads list

really town
sl
koshi
shape
damdred
ls

townish
wbg

null
palmar
kelsier
chezinu

could lynch
rels

would lynch
ve

So basically Tumble's reads didn't evolve from the beginning of the game. Apart from that time where Damdred was lynched of course. This is a scum tell


mine didn't really evolve either, but I guess that makes me mafia too doesn't it?

Yep. Especially given your playstyle. If you're town you really were tunneled this game


I am always tunneled as town

If you think that it's no wonder you play like that as scum (=
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:16 GMT
#2163
I can't tell if the latest interactions between palmar and rels are genuine (aka palmar is town) or really good distancing
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:18 GMT
#2164
man it's really easy to see how scummy rels is when you start with the assumption that he's scum
ve too
palmar almost
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:19 GMT
#2165
On June 21 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card

But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ?

that was a feeling I was harboring for a while

So what did you think of VE's last batch of posts ?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2016 18:20 GMT
#2166
ok my computer seems to be working again for now spent all morning trying to fix it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:21 GMT
#2167
On June 21 2016 03:20 sicklucker wrote:
ok my computer seems to be working again for now spent all morning trying to fix it

I DONT CARE
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2016 18:21 GMT
#2168
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:22 GMT
#2169
On June 21 2016 03:21 sicklucker wrote:
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo

That's nonsense. Do you feel like making a game-turning decision with this little time ?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2016 18:23 GMT
#2170
yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:25 GMT
#2171
On June 21 2016 03:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card

But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ?

that was a feeling I was harboring for a while

So what did you think of VE's last batch of posts ?

I ignored them when I went over them the first time
the second time I noticed that both you and ve don't think the other is scum which is weird because all of you/ve/palmar should be hard-scumreading the other two. I'd also expect more of a bus but then again if you can get away with a 3-2 vote for palmar why wouldn't you?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:26 GMT
#2172
On June 21 2016 03:23 sicklucker wrote:
yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you

please this time it's going to be really easy because this time I am obv town
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:26 GMT
#2173
On June 21 2016 03:23 sicklucker wrote:
yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you

I don't know what to say to that
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:26 GMT
#2174
On June 21 2016 03:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:21 sicklucker wrote:
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo

That's nonsense. Do you feel like making a game-turning decision with this little time ?

> tfw rels realizes he's going to lose the duel so he calls it off
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:27 GMT
#2175
On June 21 2016 03:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:22 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:21 sicklucker wrote:
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo

That's nonsense. Do you feel like making a game-turning decision with this little time ?

> tfw rels realizes he's going to lose the duel so he calls it off

Yep I think palmar is the better lynch. But I can't step down from that. Let's fight
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2016 18:30 GMT
#2176
fight fight fight
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:31 GMT
#2177
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:31 GMT
#2178
On June 21 2016 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:19 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card

But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ?

that was a feeling I was harboring for a while

So what did you think of VE's last batch of posts ?

I ignored them when I went over them the first time
the second time I noticed that both you and ve don't think the other is scum which is weird because all of you/ve/palmar should be hard-scumreading the other two. I'd also expect more of a bus but then again if you can get away with a 3-2 vote for palmar why wouldn't you?

And what about the fact both of us have good arguments against Palmar ? I don't even know why you're not scumreading Palmar anymore
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2016 18:34 GMT
#2179
On June 21 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)

Did you already explain this ?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 20 2016 18:38 GMT
#2180
On June 21 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:20 sicklucker wrote:
ok my computer seems to be working again for now spent all morning trying to fix it

I DONT CARE

"Look guys how unafraid I am of being lynched. I'm even being crass to the people I need to convince!!!!"
Computer says mafia
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