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On May 23 2016 21:50 sicklucker wrote: Predicitons - I dont try day one. 1 vote from getting lynched. I use the information to solve the game. lose it for us in final 3 Wait is that you or is it me in normal game | ||
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On May 24 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote: First. Town. Confirmed. I'll be a scrub left in the PoE pool. Let's see if the "good" players lynch me. I won't hold you accountable. IDK man Onegu said the same thing in normal game and he was scum I don't think we can trust you | ||
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On May 24 2016 07:42 LightningStrike wrote: Bitch I just came off of being Night 2d as VT in Tortoise but you wouldn't know that because you didn't check that game I think lol. Plus I had rolled scum in the last cell game so yeah you might notice a different me this time around. Nah you don't deserve your filter linked, that was a medic dodge | ||
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On May 24 2016 08:10 Holyflare wrote: Tumblewood how many games have you played? Somewhere between seven-and-a-half and eight. "LOOK MA IM CONTRIBUTING!" -me | ||
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On May 24 2016 08:14 Holyflare wrote: One can only assume from inference. I get that you said LS confirmed Koshi town, but I didn't feel there was much conviction in it, like you could see yourself voting him later in the game. | ||
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On May 24 2016 08:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: @LS Why are you over reacting? If I were you I'd just be like "lol okay cool story" etc. There's something about this question that makes me think "now, why would kush want the answer to this?" I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's somewhere between bored overanalysis and that it's more of a statement with a question mark. | ||
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On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway mmmmm I'm gonna contest you on this one, mafia targets the weak link usually at some point but not early early D1. People in mafia have ADHD and can't wagon someone for more than half a day at a time. HF might be scum but if he is it's for calling a scum slip with 100% certainty when it was kinda iffy. | ||
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I keep getting all excited because this is the game I'm gonna try real hard in and then getting sidelined by RL | ||
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And of course Koshi's town he's using all caps and agrees with me | ||
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On May 24 2016 18:18 Holyflare wrote: So, which do you think it is? Am I going for reactions or are you suspicious because I called out a scum slip with certainty? I feel like many of your posts say things that don't reach any conclusions and me no likey. First was true, second was a test, like "is he serious" and you didn't indicate it was for a reaction so we end up with the third. Congrats, you manage to cast shade where there is none and not say whether you meant it, all at once (though I assume at this point it was serious, which makes it pretty bad) | ||
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Also theory: Posting at 4 AM is dumb | ||
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On May 25 2016 02:16 LightningStrike wrote: I will fight on Tumblewood I believe he is town atm. Why am I wrong on Tumblewood? This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum. | ||
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No it's not, I'm not voting LS in a million years. There is no benefit if he is scum, besides my worthless TR and getting yelled at for TMI | ||
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Anyone that thinks that emotion was faked can shut up | ||
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On May 25 2016 04:09 ritoky wrote: Rito Mafia Check of Tumblewood: (The forgotten file) There exists no town purpose to this post. If you're going to attempt to apply pressure on to inactive players, why refer to them anonymously rather than call them out directly? This does not apply the desired pressure and I find it to be a waste of space and an easy post to make to blanket seem like you're doing something. I sincerely doubt any inactive player felt any heat to post more because of what you said here. OK, ritbot, Your case on me is mostly logical and not scummy, except this. This isn't like, "something else I thought was scummy and forgot," this is not even that bad but you're putting it in an unnecessarily negative light. This isn't a critical evaluation of anything, this is "didn't apply pressure" restated 3 times and it doesn't even make me scum. I think you started with the conclusion and fit the reasoning to that. Actually you know what this whole case sucks. "Posted justification for afkness = scum", "stopped trying to gain insight from the first 8 hours of the game = scum", "said he cared about something = scum", + Show Spoiler + oh no I'm becoming the real hypocritoky | ||
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You go HF BTW Super LS Koshi are all a million percent town, but please LS you're never getting an answer from Palmar | ||
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On May 25 2016 08:01 ritoky wrote: Rito Response Analysis of Tumblewood: 1) I think your response is telling of a salty mafia who got caught OMGUSing. You can see your progression throughout this post: "Your case on me is mostly logical and not scummy" -> "Let me try to argue this" -> "Man I can't argue this" -> "Call it all shit" -> "OMGUS vote". At no point here do you consider the possibility that Rito Bot is of the town alignment simply because the case called you mafia. You had a conclusion in mind when you wrote this post. 2) Your post lacks any direct response of specificity as to why I am wrong and why your mindset and play is necessarily town. I clearly stated why you are mafia and you made a blanket statement about it all being shit rather than actually comprehend and explain the reasons why I view you as mafia. If you would like them again it is as follows - Shows tremendous interest in early discussion surrounding HF/Koshi/LS/Damdred/Kush -> leaves the thread -> discussion continues surrounding the issues -> returns to the thread making no comments or conclusions -> clearly did not care about read, which is distinctly different from other reads and displays a level of inconsistency. - Mafia tend to overexplain away inactivity, you overexplained inactivity. - Your interactions with LS read as pocketing, his town read of you was not warranted and your response was unwarranted and false. LS could very easily have a mafia motivation there and the specific interaction almost guarantees that 1 of you is mafia. - Non-town mindset displayed by an over-the-top reaction to a post by Superbia that was mildly town at best. - Anonymously calling out players who lack activity rather than directly pressuring them is pointless except for the fact that it doesn't directly link you to players by having their names in your post. Feel free to argue against those, as I feel all of your current responses lack an understanding of the accusations or you are simply in fact mafia. 3) Your town reads are junk. They are entirely responses to players calling you town and display that you are not approaching the game with a critical eye, but simply making friends. Mafia make friends, town find mafia. 1) but I could argue it. look, it has an argument. 2) this is also false. I said it was scummy because you're seeing facts and twisting them to fit your claim. 2.1) I was a scrub and thought HF was serious for far too long, and "HF are you serious was half of the questions I asked. 2.2) this is borderline NAI 2.3) if LS is pocketing someone, it's someone with actual clout (aka not me) and vice-versa. plus he did the same in tortoise as town. 2.4) over the top reaction, apparently: "that was real emotion [getting town points] and if you disagree you're wrong" 2.5) there were so many AFKs that no one would feel pressure even with names. 3) seriously? only LS was because of a TR. Your points all suck. I don't believe that your read is the result of seeing all these things because half of them are false and the other half don't make me scum. | ||
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On May 25 2016 20:01 Rels wrote: This is a bad read. Scum defends lynchbait townie all the time for exactly this reason. If he defends me he doesn't get other people's town points. Source: this game He also did it as town in Tortoise. | ||
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Given everyone else's apparent soulreads it seems I should reconsider my read on Superbia. I could buy that this is kinda like Storm where he had 20+ pages of nothing. 6/10 would sheep Also rit might be town. Confirmation bias is a real thing to consider. Also he's kind of breaking the bot persona which could show that he actually cares, and it's a fine thing to hide behind as scum. | ||
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Rit Marv Damdred Palmar HF Super Town circle LS Koshi Sleeping encouraged. For now ##unvote | ||
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On May 26 2016 01:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Tumble try to convince me about l s. I'm not very good at reading him. He has that "lynchbaits stick together" mentality which is a town thing for him. Also he got/is pretty worked up about Palmar not answering him, a town sort of tunnel. | ||
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On May 26 2016 01:59 Holyflare wrote: So ritoky is looking townier, he's in your scum pool. Superbia looks more like mafia and I'm casing the mafia guy and I'm in your scum pool. And your town read contains the guy who has called out everyone's alignment with far too much certainty and his case is a wall of text saying palmar is afk? Alsoooo, what is this bs people are spouting about marv? Sure, his post looked genuine but then, again, why are you blatantly ignoring that he said nothing about his work until now and saying he's town, no way anyone says that da fuk. -Rit is looking better but still definitely a decent lynch. - I don't care if you might be right I don't TR people just because they're casing someone scummy - yeah and they're both town - Marv is in my scum pool though. | ||
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ritoky's post on Rels makes him kinda town actually | ||
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On May 26 2016 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: You seriously not considering the fact that HF if scum fucking abandoned his team making harder for them to win which is a very dumb thing to do? Or Possibly HF doing this in confidence he can survive and look town for this? | ||
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On May 26 2016 06:36 marvellosity wrote: what a very strange thing to say. how on earth do you think i'm rolling over and dying? very odd post Because you're passively discouraging people from lynching you instead of playing the game | ||
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It might even be townie But then I end up voting someone even more townie Hmm | ||
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decent lynch threshold Marv Super bad lynch threshold Palmar | ||
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On May 26 2016 06:36 marvellosity wrote: what a very strange thing to say. how on earth do you think i'm rolling over and dying? very odd post mmmf I found 4 and 3 were rels and one was this one curse you, you win this round ##Unvote ##vote Superbia | ||
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On May 26 2016 06:54 Koshi wrote: Ok so before this flip I will say that following people are without doubt town till D4 based on D1 alone. LS Kush JAT depending on what HF will flip the scumteams are pretty much set. How did JAT go from boring turtle to conftown all of a sudden | ||
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On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote: Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story. Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game. ##vote: holyflare This feels genuine Ritoky, will you be town with me? | ||
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BTW LS is yet again confirmed town | ||
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This time it's because there's no way that early game interaction with HF was SvS | ||
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No you're not check my last post Spoiler alert: yeah I guess you're right | ||
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On May 27 2016 00:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: But why wouldn't scum ritoky defend his scum partner in the obvious and legitimate way? Lots of reasons A) they don't see the reason B) they think it will look bad for whatever reason C) ??? Myriads of things can go on in a scums mind I just don't like this defense | ||
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how though Koshi is trash + marv is town + Show Spoiler + you were town reading him right | ||
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On May 27 2016 07:25 Damdred wrote: I said since the start if the night koshi has had decent reads. But it's nit a horrid idea if not marv we wait and see what else vivax gets out with Why are you voting on a "not horrid idea" IDK I just can't imagine myself (or Damdred) as town justifying my plan as not bad instead of good | ||
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On May 28 2016 02:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: omg dude you're so buddied it's not even funny. All he has to do is townread you and he's confirmed town in your eyes for the rest of the game. and you're hopelessly tunneled and bad | ||
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Damdred and HF are acting super similar Damdred reaction-tests LS? HF reaction-tests LS HF votes X? Damdred votes X (three times) This is super weird and I can't tell if it's town or scum | ||
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On May 28 2016 03:33 Damdred wrote: Meh kush your a good player but look elsewhere bro I'm an innocent child at this point. Is this a joke | ||
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On May 28 2016 04:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Tumble where did you go? Is that not 100% why you are townreading LS? Beause he townread and defended you? I come and go as I please thank you very much And no. That is definitely townie, but also his early early game interaction with HF is for sure not SvS. Also his content (like his dumb push on Palmar) is bad but in a scrub-town sort of way. | ||
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On May 28 2016 20:51 Palmar wrote: like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order: Most mafia Marv Rels sicklucker JAT ritoky Damdred Tumblewood Superbia Kush LS Palmar Least mafia So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game. If Superbia has a 45% chance to flip town why is he fourth least mafia? | ||
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I like to think it was my overpowering influence. | ||
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Honestly if anybody's buddying me it's SL because we're rarely in such agreement with each other. | ||
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On May 29 2016 07:11 Superbia wrote: Something with spinach. I'll see if I can cook something up tomorrow to stop the mislynch, but idk if I want to put the time in. Ooh do I smell a concession | ||
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town me Damdred I guess kush I guess LS vivax SL, probably mafia Rels Palmar, maybe? fear lynch at best right now really mafia hm gee I wonder who it is so today we can lynch superbia and he'll flip scum and then mafia kills damdred or someone and then we lynch rels and he flips scum or if he doesn't mafia kills another confirmed town and the next day we either lynch palmar or stop listening to a gameplan made on d3. sounds good? sounds good. | ||
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and then d5 comes around and we haven't lynched scum in 2 days and it's 3v2 lylo and then I die because I was inactive when everyone else was spamming on d3 the stuff of nightmares | ||
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rels's pressure on kush to answer his tmi question is bad like, he's trying to threaten kush but what he's saying isn't threatening in the least + Show Spoiler + holy shit this is my first day at a computer since monday and it feels so good | ||
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On May 30 2016 10:56 sicklucker wrote: meh dont like your checks. but at least this forces mafia to nk the weaker players if this goes long. This might make dandred fake..? thanks sicklucker love you too + Show Spoiler + also why the second part | ||
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On May 30 2016 00:04 Rels wrote: Superbia still hasn't made a single smart post this game. Superbia's vote on HF was late, after HF already gave up. Superbia's vote on marv was late, as if he wanted to see if marv would fire up before casting a vote. Superbia's aggression is really reminiscent of his past scum games. This post: Made me realize that Superbia calling one of HF / JAT scum with for the sole reason they were pushing him smells like TMI. He's very likely scum. Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech. | ||
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On May 30 2016 00:39 Rels wrote: Looks like Tumble is missing. I have 0 opinion on the guy and I don't feel like reading another filter so that will wait for later. how did three people say they had 0 read on me around the same time today | ||
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On May 30 2016 23:27 Rels wrote: First, that doesn't make sense. Second, why did you make this post: when apparently you weren't even caught up ? disagree on both counts. the first quote makes sense and I was caught up for the second one. On May 30 2016 23:31 Rels wrote: Yeah like in that JAT game where I was afraid to call you scum when I was pushing you D1 through D6 right. It's possible LS is miller actually, Tumble is saying a lot of nonsense right now that isn't nonsense rels, and you should be good enough to know. the "very likely scum" is super weak for a post that was at best trying to drive a point home (because it's not like super=scum was original at the time). On May 30 2016 23:34 Rels wrote: It's kinda annoying to be in every scumlist I would say I can relate, but usually when I'm universally scumread I'm town ![]() | ||
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also, does sl ever appear uninvested when he thinks the game is easy? I haven't played with him enough to know. | ||
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![]() On May 31 2016 07:53 sicklucker wrote: and tumble dont you freakin vote me this game. I know your all paranoid because I "buddied" you but wheres the mafia motivation? your such an easy mislynch why did I actively try to stop your mislynch? 1. I agree with your lynch plan but your reasons for it are bad. No plans to vote you. 2. You didn't stop my mislynch at all, I've been widely townread this game and was under no pressure when you came in with your town trifecta. I don't even think you're scum you're just saying some really dumb things this game. | ||
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On May 31 2016 07:59 sicklucker wrote: what did I say that is stupid? Most of page 99 | ||
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On May 31 2016 08:01 sicklucker wrote: and yes I tottaly defended you day 1 wtf? Hf was trying to lynch you he can decide a lynch all on his own you think people are really gonna care if your lynched? Jat and palmar also pushed your lynch slightly at points I got one vote from HF before he moved it to himself. JAT and Palmar didn't pressure me for shit. IDK you're the one person I'd ever expect of trying to gain my trust by calling me lynchbait town, because you saw my frustration in JAT game. | ||
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On May 31 2016 08:02 sicklucker wrote: ...... wait till post game . your calling things that cant be proven yet stupid. pretty silly. I was pretty much right about everything in that last final 5 and 3 but you didnt bother to believe me either and just didnt try at all And it's a "wrong reasons" thing and not a "wrong answers" thing. Can we stop this discussion? It's going nowhere because we both have the same reads anyway. | ||
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the ls/me scumteam is so inane because ls should already be townread by everyone a million times over and I'm also playing a solid town game. lynching into it for information is pretty stupid because if you, say, lynch me, you'll still be like "but what if ls was gf hurr durr", "what if tw was framed". look at superbia's filter and tell me how in the world he is town. | ||
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lynching for information is stupid because framer exists and so do miller and gf | ||
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On June 01 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote: worrying because no one seem to want to talk before the lynch. "x means y" "why would x mean y" "y because x" | ||
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On June 01 2016 07:16 LightningStrike wrote: We lynching Vivax next Day Phase. No questions about it. actually, I have a question why | ||
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On June 01 2016 07:07 Damdred wrote: Rels is probably never scum here I think. I'm not seeing how | ||
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On June 01 2016 09:26 LightningStrike wrote: Rels looks better because he did try to push Superbia Day 1 a little bit enough that Vivax is the right person to kill. [p]ls I meant that you should explain why vivax is scum | ||
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so I'll sheep your case if there's a non-super-related reason he's scum | ||
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On June 02 2016 07:06 sicklucker wrote: Im sure the stars alligned this game for town tho. We were one marv post away from a golden sweep. stupid marv Not often the entire scumteam has RL/scum burnout | ||
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