[M][N] H O L Y F * * * E mafia!!

On May 24 2016 08:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Mmm I'm not on with this LS TMI stuff, seems like Damdred/HF are just going for reactions. Should get the game rolling though.

On May 24 2016 18:10 justanothertownie wrote:

You know what will happen if you keep this nonsense up again. I will gladly lynch you.

Also - what's your conclusion on the HF/damdred/LS thing? Because I don't see any. Or why did you post this now? Everyone can see that HF did make a big deal about nothing really interesting.

On May 24 2016 18:27 Holyflare wrote:


Hey Koshi you say you didn't read but then at the start of the game when Tumble said he didn't like the ls push and it looked like pressure instead, you posted this gif.

Now you're saying that you didn't read properly and the stuff you didn't like and was obviously fake pressure turned out to be stuff you didn't like and fake pressure?

Je ne comprends pas.

Have you in fact struggled to find things to write about and are mafia?

On May 24 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:

If it is so clearly fake pressure then why do you feel the need to explain how it doesn't make sense? You just complain for no reason since you aren't even calling them mafia.

On May 24 2016 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
So when did my pressure that was obviously meant to get things rolling become something that was a sincere push?? It heavily looked like (and definitely was with your captain obvious picture) that you assumed the push was to start something but now you're saying instead that you think it was real pressure and bad and I clearly misread LS's posts??

On May 24 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
Because it was early and maybe magic would happen I let the LS thing happen, (also was watching GoT), but the argument or "case" was completely ripped out of context and was super duper completely NAI and kinda was HF lying about something that didn't happen.

I am surprised Damdred went with it as well like he did.


Only thing I read that I found interesting.

Also maybe only read I am going to make today because by doing this I am already profiling me as top 1% player of this game and I don't want that.

On May 24 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote:
Because it was early and maybe magic would happen I let the LS thing happen, (also was watching GoT), but the argument or "case" was completely ripped out of context and was super duper completely NAI and kinda was HF lying about something that didn't happen.

I am surprised Damdred went with it as well like he did.


Only thing I read.

Also maybe only read I am going to make today because by doing this I am already profiling me as top 1% player of this game and I don't want that.

On May 25 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote:

This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum.

On May 25 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:


Because the whole tangent is literally absurd. It was not scum indicative in the slightest. You're supposed to be a good player, you should know what is or isn't alignment indicative. JAT is a decent player, he too should know this. The fact that you were both genuine about this is.. unbelievable. Add to this that this isn't your first shit-push this game.

On May 25 2016 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
oh it says it in the line. rip koshi too town too powerole

On May 25 2016 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:

Nothing in this post makes even the slightest bit of sense.

On May 25 2016 07:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Hmm actually I feel like I should hold off on TRing SL so I don't get played

On May 25 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
well no I can explain my read on ritoky. hes the first person to help push holyflares case on lynchbaitweed. The second person on these spots is more often mafia then the person who originaly thought of the case and believes it (holyflare)

The triforce protects the triforce

On May 25 2016 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
so who are we lynching koshi im still on page 12

On May 25 2016 07:33 sicklucker wrote:
koshi i think the solution to that problem is to lynch off of them and let them have a battle royal later in the game. but if I choose one its marv

On May 25 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:

i am not afk stop spreading misinformation wow

On May 25 2016 13:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Please discuss my case guys I beg of you guys to do it.

On May 25 2016 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand how you can be so certain of tumblewood being mafia that you completely ditch your evaluation of Superbia looking scummy ritoky.

On May 25 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote:
This shit is actually making me not want to play this game. Can people actually bother look at both JAT and HF's alignment?

On May 25 2016 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly in my history knowing Palmar he would never ever not give his reasoning for why he thinks someone is scum as town. Lynch with fire boys!

On May 25 2016 20:27 Superbia wrote:


I heavily disagree with HF. What direction does HF actually want to go in? Look at his push on me and then tell me he actually believes in it.

JAT is backing HF on pretty much everything and then doesn't want to commit to calling him town. What a joke. x:

Ritoky should be shot because I can't read this bot-weirdness.

On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:

Why ?

Why ?

Why ?

On May 25 2016 20:33 Superbia wrote:
I hope to god one between palmar and marv is town and wakes up before EoD.

On May 25 2016 20:40 Superbia wrote:


Because if they're both mafia I want to get out of this game and if they're both town I want to get out of this game.

On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

These two quotes are troubling, and could be mafia indicative. They both center around Superbia's meta tell on LS. Firstly he is repeating it (twice) but not indicating what it is, which to some degree I can understand but in another sense makes it more likely fake. Secondly even though it is accurate from his knowledge, he isn't choosing to believe it for a not particularly convincing reason since earlier he was saying that LS was leaning mafia. Thirdly, he desires more from LS to fully form his read.

That last one is the troubling one: "I'm looking for something more" to me implies that Superbia is going to put the screws to or pressure LS for more information so that he can judge if his meta-tell is legitimate or not. So what does Superbia do? Banter with JAT, direct 0 questions or statements toward LS, and generally ignore him after this post. You think he was leaning mafia, you have a meta-tell you are somewhat confident in, and you want more information from LS; so you just ignore him? How is that advancing your read or the game in a meaningful way?

This could be indicative of partners trying to establish a bus for the future. As I said before in my RMC of Tumblewood, I believe that there is almost always a mafia between Tumble and LS due to the timing and over-the-top nature of the reads they gave on eachother; in the event that Tumble is town I think there is a very high likelihood that Superbia is with LS.

On May 25 2016 22:33 Palmar wrote:

kush good you bad

On May 25 2016 22:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


You get pissed off when people do this to you. So why do it to me?

On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar mafia
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish mafia

On May 26 2016 04:29 ritoky wrote:


You're full tunnel OMGUS, Palmar's reason is not compelling, Marv is sheeping Palmar; kush, koshi, and jat are fear lynching.

On May 26 2016 06:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Marv is HF flips town can you please lynch Superbia with me then?

On May 26 2016 06:55 Tumblewood wrote:

How did JAT go from boring turtle to conftown all of a sudden

On May 26 2016 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
If HF flips town guys I going to be very mad at you guys. If he flips scum I know I will look bad but I not scum.

On May 26 2016 07:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh well I look bad but at least he flipped scum. Still that was a dick move by HF to screw his team over like that.

On May 26 2016 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
The scum on HF wagon outside himself in my view is Superbia. Sicklucker could easily be the 3rd scum. I don't think scum would put all their eggs in the bussing basket like that on a power role for them.

On May 26 2016 04:29 ritoky wrote:


You're full tunnel OMGUS, Palmar's reason is not compelling, Marv is sheeping Palmar; kush, koshi, and jat are fear lynching.

On May 26 2016 04:40 ritoky wrote:
If I had my preferred lynch today it would be rels. Things he is electing to highlight and prod at this game are shallow at best, his reasoning for suspicions and pushes is poor for his standards, and when he types in caps or types in his "passion voice" it feels contrived.

On May 26 2016 08:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Would lynch for the ridicluous fear lynch comment alone. Holy shit.

On May 26 2016 08:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Ritoky was not lying.
I can see why Ritoky thought it was a fear lynch. It basically was.
A fear lynch is lynching someone because you are afraid their play could be an example of their very good scumgame, even though they don't look that scummy.

On May 26 2016 02:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


Look at Superbia, LS, Ritoky, HF in that order IMO.

On May 26 2016 04:29 ritoky wrote:


You're full tunnel OMGUS, Palmar's reason is not compelling, Marv is sheeping Palmar; kush, koshi, and jat are fear lynching.

On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote:
Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story.

Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game.

##vote: holyflare

On May 26 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote:
Palmar just seems town, idk what you see there. Superbia looked scummy last I checked but I gave him a pass because of an associative read regarding you, but you're pushing him now so that kinda fucks that up. Could vote him. Pretty sure damdred has absolutely 0 convictions about anything this game and is underwhelming although I haven't clicked his filter yet to confirm that. I said why I want to lynch rels, nothing has changed. Tumble reconsidering jumbled my brain....idk...still don't like him, but if he asked me on a date I would say maybe next week but I am kinda busy.

On May 26 2016 08:36 justanothertownie wrote:

That would be rels.

On May 25 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
Page 7:
I liked Damdred's reason to push LS (LS not being tinfoily enough about HF + Damdred). Could be town.
I liked LS' reaction to the pressure, as scum I would have expected him to either be fakely emotional or just dismiss it. Could be town.

HF gets 0 credit for this push, fake or not.

I don't like ritoky post announcing he will play the whole game reactively, which is exactly what scum tends to do. I don't like these in his second posts:

Looks like the exact things a scum would say to look like he's contributing.

I don't like Tumble saying he thinks HF's pressure is fake, then treating it like it is real:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 25 2016 20:16 Rels wrote:

I think JAT is town.
I have no read on HF but I agree with basically everything he has written.
I'm not caught up so I'm not joining any wagon, just calling out things I'm seeing.

On May 26 2016 06:41 Rels wrote:
I do not want to lynch HF.
I want to lynch Superbia for being abbrasive like last game and not smart and pretty useless for his long filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Superbia

On May 26 2016 20:15 justanothertownie wrote:

Superbia can also be easily with HF.

On May 26 2016 20:18 sicklucker wrote:


its very possible espeically the way hf played. but his other lynch target tumbleweed i doubt it. dont think he would blatantly push his scumbait partner who no one was paying attention too. super sure alot of people thought he was mafia anyway

On May 26 2016 20:38 Palmar wrote:


Let's explore!

















... But then, all of a sudden...





Like I don't know if this is a thing, but once it became clear HF was going to get lynched, crooked koshi did almost a random 180 on ritoky. I have no idea if it means anything, and if anything, what it means...

It's just a weird observation.

Koshi mind works in ways that cannot be logically explained.

On May 26 2016 20:51 Koshi wrote:
ritoky probably tried to make a big play and save his scumbuddy to feel happy after his bad news. He failed saving his buddy and felt miserable and left the game.

not farfetched.

On May 26 2016 03:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I just don't get the whole "at least one of palmar/ marv/ hf" must be mafia idea.

On May 26 2016 21:12 Rels wrote:

Bad bad bad
I had 0 suspcion towards HF. me having suspcions towards ritoky does not matter here since it's HF who flips mafia and marv who is likely town

On May 26 2016 21:15 Rels wrote:

Cause he is like the best scum on this website so he cannot be townread just because I agree with his posts during the first 24 hours

On May 26 2016 21:27 Rels wrote:
Damdred might be confirmed town via meta. Because Damdred does not do play that make him look bad for no reason. And he even based some of his reads on that assumption.
In the champions game where he was scum, he bused his teammate as soon as he thought he was getting lynched. His bus didn't look like a bus 'cause it was super early. Here, he jumped on HF at the last moment, which is weird for scum!Dadmred.
In that same champions game, there was a moment where a townie was one vote away from being hammered (that would mean the day would end 24 hours early and the next day was LYLO), but Damdred still didn't dare hammer the guy in fear of looking bad. His teammate did it.
I also remember a obs QT where Damdred based a read on "XXX is town because he voted scum 1 minute before deadline, it doesn't make sense for scum to be this obvious". I THINK it was on disfo in Dark Tournament but I might be wrong. Either way it shows Damdred's thoughts process.

On May 26 2016 21:42 Palmar wrote:

all the baddies think he's mafia, thus you assume they're all wrong.

On May 26 2016 22:31 justanothertownie wrote:

Even more prove how it isn't logical.

What does it matter which position people voted HF right after after he selfvoted? That's fucking retarded.

On May 26 2016 23:10 Palmar wrote:
I will not lynch kush, ever.

Even with a red check I will not lynch kush.

On May 26 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky

100% mafia. Defending somebody with false reasons. There are no reasons to think we are fearlynching. But with ritoky showing this much face maybe hf is mafia after all.

On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote:
Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story.

Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game.

##vote: holyflare

On May 26 2016 23:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Looks like Rels wants to fear lynch me.

Koshi, why is saying it's a fear lynch scummier than saying "scum would never self vote and fuck over his team"?

On May 27 2016 00:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
And if it's the defending itself that is so scummy, why do damdred and ls get a pass?

On May 27 2016 00:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways we should lynch Superbia despite what Palmar thinks of him.

On May 27 2016 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:

How is marv ever mafia in this game? I think you are losing your mind.

On May 27 2016 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:

See, how is anyone supposed to take your reads serious at this point? Earlier you said his filter is really towny. Why is he mafia now?