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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:20 GMT
#1912
I'm not ruling out killing you Superbia, and I'm tempted to let someone other than me run the lynch today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:21 GMT
#1913
So you better convince other people than me that you're not scum. I'm not gonna defend you.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:35 GMT
#1915
not my problem
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 15:57 GMT
#1946
you deserve everyone's scumlist rels. You've done some shady shit this game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:33 GMT
#2010
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:36 GMT
#2013
On May 31 2016 17:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?

You.

if you think that I'm just gonna vote you. The rest of the baddies can possibly be explained as you know.... baddies, but you don't get that excuse.

##vote Rels
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:42 GMT
#2017
So, the reasons to possibly scumread sicklucker are mostly three.

#1: Sometime during early day 1 he called holyflare's play something like "classic mafia" and said he was gonna be an ass about it, he barely did anything that I remember to actually try to lynch holyflare or did he follow up on that in any way.

#2: He keeps trying to define the game in ways that help himself. The first of this is creating some town trifecta with suspiciously much confidence in two random people who seem like they're going to end up being town (tumble and koshi). I noticed this hardcore during night 1. He kept trying to define how everyone should think going forward (who should be scumread, who should be townread from the previous day). Basically it feels like his play was surprisingly proactive/worried given that we had just lynched mafia.

#3: The over the top "I'm mafia" jokes. No one is laughing or paying attention to them. At this point he's just doing it for himself. Either he's super edgy and cool by claiming mafia, or it's an attempt to make it look like he sort of doesn't care or has a nonchalant attitude.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:44 GMT
#2018
regarding #2, he's doing it again today (describing some relatively tinfoil long term plans of a possible mafia team). I can't remember if this is a thing sicklucker does, but meeehhhh
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:47 GMT
#2020
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:48 GMT
#2022
Like everyone knows I am completely unable to convince marv I am town, at best I can remain off his radar for a day or two until such a time I can kill him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:48 GMT
#2023
On May 31 2016 17:48 sicklucker wrote:
point 2 is very explaniable. im better at reading people town then you.

Also theres a point when me and koshi posted the same read in a timespan of 10 seconds. That read was about tumble.

Koshi + sicklucker = tumble town at the same time = the trifecta I made. It was not two towns it was two towns that town read the same town at the same time for the same thing and post


ok I don't think sl is mafia anymore

or well, I'm completely removing sl off the table as a lynch candidate.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:49 GMT
#2025
like I sorta want to believe sl is town, because if that is the case, his townplay is getting quite good (not palmar good, but good).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 09:12 GMT
#2037
On May 31 2016 17:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 17:47 Palmar wrote:
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.

Sry bro, you were caught by POE and setup.
I have no problem getting lynched as long as you're lynched the next day.

okay, deal.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 09:14 GMT
#2038
On May 31 2016 18:05 sicklucker wrote:
and the fact palmar caught super as scum d1 last game and cant seem to do it here is interesting

I am working under the assumption super is going to be lynched. I'm not really going to do anything to stop that, but reading his filter and actually caring about his alignment seems a waste of my time seeing as he's definitely going to be lynched at some point.

As I said directly to him, if he wants to dig out of that hole, I'm not going to help him, and he'll have to convince other people than me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:04 GMT
#2050
On May 31 2016 19:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not sure how much time I'll actually have today. I'm swamped at work and I'm not sure how much time I'll have this evening. I'll try to leave some thoughts.

I also feel like my lynch has been unfortunately inevitable since d1. Especially now that pretty much all the 'confirmed towns' feel the same way. So unless people specifically ask me to, I won't defend myself. We can discuss certain things in post-game.

if you're town you should defend yourself violently until you're dead.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:04 GMT
#2051
To be honest, I had written LS off as town, and I never really paid much attention to tumblewood. In addition I saw several things from kush that I liked early as town so I'm just gonna believe the blues.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#2052
Like I have currently very little reason to challenge the blue things.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#2053
On May 31 2016 19:50 sicklucker wrote:
if you are town theres really no reason to defend your lynch since we have auto anyway. UNLESS you feel two people outside of rels or palmar is mafia. then you should probably say something because that would be 3 mislynches inarow. or if you feel someone fake claimed...

This is of course wrong and bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:15 GMT
#2056
essentially, here's where I'm at (big picture).

With no 4th claim, I believe the blues. I also believe the checks, or at least I see no reason to immediately discount them.

This means that there's really 4 people I'm looking at.

I have completely ignored vivax/ritoky. The only thing that's noticable is that Vivax has little activity and seems to not be doing the stand-off-ish Vivax thing. In addition ritoky's game in the beginning was boring and bad and nothing came of it which makes it more likely it was facetious.

Rels I am very, very confident is mafia. I have already explained why in big picture. If it was up to me I'd kill him today.

sicklucker I'm slightly more conflicted on. If he's mafia he's borderline trolling the game. Activity and sass (I'm better at townreading people than you (which is of course bs, I'm best)) point to him being town. repeatedly claiming mafia in a boring way and calling the game auto when it really, really isn't, points towards mafia.

superbia I have mostly ignored. I called him 100% town at some point because I sort of felt like he was a consensus shitty lynch that mafia would agree on. I have no idea if he actually is town or scum. If I were a betting man I'd say town because I think it's more likely just because of circumstances and associations, but it's super weak and bad.

I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

I might even try to write a case on him tonight, but I can't guarantee I'll have the time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:18 GMT
#2057
On May 31 2016 23:10 sicklucker wrote:
whats wrong about it. godfathers are a thing. if you think one of lightnight strike or tumbleweed are the last mafia after we flip one. by all means go for it

You have played mafia before. People were crying "lol auto" in normal game for jat too and it didn't work out. All it takes is one decently hidden mafia (blue claimer? townie looking non-confirmed? godfather?) to fuck things over.

If there is a hidden mafia, we need time and mislynches to deal with it. Every lynch matters.
Computer says mafia
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