On May 28 2016 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Look at what vivax has posted. Jack shit. I was probably 2/2 on day 1 with ritoky and hf, and suspicion all over me because a mafia self voted. The thing that's even more annoying is that if hf flipped town even more people would be suspicious of me but I'd still be town.

Of course I didn't cause hf to be lynched, but he had what, 5 pages of filter in 24h before he gave up? Seems kinda efforty if you're plan is to just give up. Literally the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with an Hf who never had time to play, and the glorious plan we come up with on Skype or whatever is that when hf had one vote from palmar that everyone is totally ignoring, I will vote him, he'll give up and I won't get to play with him at all. It really is genius.

This is how much time I have for mafia now and if I might get lynched when only 2/13 scrubs who were on bloody hf day 1 before he self voted is getting lynched for it, I have no idea how to play in the future and not get lynched when I'm actually wrong about stuff.

I can't wait to flip and then you lot go 'oh yeah, the guy who pushed motherfucking hf on day 1 for no reason was actually town. Pretty fucking obvious in hindsight'

I've not read anything except clicking vivax's filter to see if my vote was still reasonable. Just been woken up and killing some time before I doze off with some bitching, because why not. Enjoy

so hostile

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 09:20 GMT

#1602

right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 09:23 GMT

#1603

that was a long ass post saying nothing but:

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Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 11:46 GMT

#1614

On May 28 2016 19:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

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Marv is the primary wagon right now based entirely on palmer s*** n K analysis. That alone tells you that he's not Mafia.

Palmar your argument that you want to kill marv because you are afraid to lose to him, I think that is actually the definition of a fear Lynch. I'm sorry jat I didn't realize what a fear Lynch was until I saw palmar do it.

So palmar your reasoning is that plus some shit you admit is null.

I'm going to give you one more chance to see this. It's Damdred

you misunderstand me in almost every possible way. I'll try to explain.

1) MY vote on marv has nothing to do with the NK stuff. I lied that it was a thing, it is not. My vote only remains there due to his reactions to it today.

2) I am not afraid of losing to marv. I've lost to him plenty of times. What I'm "afraid" of, is seeing something that is very, very clearly not townie or expected behavior from marv, and not lynching him for it because of some mechanical play on day 1 by him.

The problem is, I am not certain, but I'm never certain.

His tone and attitude today sounds way off the mark. I personally would not respond like this to being lynched for no reason as town, and I believe, knowing marv fairly well, that he would not respond like this to being lynched as town.

The reason I want to lynch him is pretty clear. His play today does not look, sound or feel like a town marv play.

The reason I'm hesitant is that he's right, he was an early supporter of my HF lynch, and also simply because I like marv and don't want to lynch him for no reason.

I'm trying to look at things objectively, and objectively what has transpired today should make marv mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 11:51 GMT

#1615

like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order:

Most mafia

Marv
Rels
sicklucker
JAT
ritoky
Damdred
Tumblewood
Superbia
Kush
LS
Palmar

Least mafia

So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 12:54 GMT

#1625

On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.

wait when?

was there a red check on damdy?

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 28 2016 22:07 GMT

#1728

Jesus

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 29 2016 10:56 GMT

#1762

Im taking a break today

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 29 2016 16:38 GMT

#1782

My earlier list has been shuffled a bit, but without re-reading I'm not ready to give any kind of a list. I'm still super disappointed marv decided to just fuck off as our investigative role. It's really a bit of a dick move.

Being mad and throwing game/lynches because people do dumb shit in mafia is dumb. It's part of the game.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 29 2016 17:20 GMT

#1789

On May 30 2016 01:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
is it possible that damdred is lying about being jk?

Its possible but unlikely

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 30 2016 08:38 GMT

#1907

3 blues in a game this size is normal. 4 is too much, 2 is only ok if it's very strong blues.

This means, with kush, marv and damdred claimed, that anyone who is blue should immediately CC. If there is a 4th blue claim, we lynch into the blues.

Any blue claims after today should be autolynched.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 30 2016 08:39 GMT

#1908

##vote sicklucker

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

May 30 2016 08:44 GMT

#1909

Didn't damdred say "5 people confirmed"?

Because my count is 4 (2 blues + 2 checks).

Also, this vote is mostly temporary. I have for a long time meant to go back to check superbia's holyflare interaction on day 1 but never gotten around to it. I have at least some reason to think all of ritoky/sicklucker/rels might be mafia, but it's not really all that strong at the moment.