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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 09:21 GMT
#1801
Also Jealous you really didn't need to claim. You could've actually reduced kp in the long game since you were a "confirmed town" kill.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 09:21 GMT
#1802
Anyway this day is pretty straightforward. I may come on later to put down some logic but depends on stuff.
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 11 2016 09:58 GMT
#1803
On June 11 2016 11:04 Jealous wrote:
Please post your reads on town/scum 2/2

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 11 2016 11:27 GMT
#1804
Just poppin in to sit my vote, will post thoughts on others after the gym.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 11 2016 17:11 GMT
#1805
There is one thing I could talk about, but it's not very important atm... Otherwise I don't feel like I have anything to add at this juncture.

Won't be around today, so see everyone after the flip.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 11 2016 17:21 GMT
#1806
Only way we lose tonight is if Jealous was godfather and this was a fake claim
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 11 2016 17:21 GMT
#1807
On June 11 2016 18:20 Superbia wrote:
Jesus christ read my posts people.

There is always 1 vigi OR cop (never 1 cop AND 1 vigi or 2 cops or w/e).
There is always 1 doc OR vet (never 1 doc AND 1 vet or 2 docs or w/e).


Yes, but the assumption of vig is based on framer, which is only claimed by btdt. However, given that there haven't been any counter claims on doc or vet, it seems likely that there is actually a framer, and a therefore that Jealous is indeed the vet.

Anyhooo, it's pretty clear that btdt is mafia. My earlier suspicion for scott is slightly cleared by moosy's innocence, but I'm not sure if I'm fully satisfied with the only basis for his read on TT being that it's similar to a previous game. My feelings for Skynx remain similar as before, I just don't get a genuine feeling for him. It's sad that last day came down to me vs kush, and skynx was completely forgotten.

Soo yeah, I'll probably be around a bit today if there's anything else. Rest of day + night will just be reading through filters I imagine.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 11 2016 17:21 GMT
#1808
which would be a pretty good play and I wouldn't mind losing to.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 11 2016 17:24 GMT
#1809
On June 12 2016 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which would be a pretty good play and I wouldn't mind losing to.


I have a feeling that you would be the one winning in this scenario
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 11 2016 17:42 GMT
#1810
Might as well wait for tomorrow then, I don't have doubts anymore.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 18:50 GMT
#1811
If there is a vig that's not claiming it's really really really really really not a good play.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 18:50 GMT
#1812
or cop.
Minimal effort.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 11 2016 20:10 GMT
#1813
This is it.

I am actually not the doctor. I am the veteran.

What did I think when Moosy said "hey, redchecked you":

1. "If he is genuine, there must be a framer."
2. "If he is not genuine, there will be a real cop hidden somewhere. Scum knows the setup, right?"

2. What made me claim doctor?

1. My role. I am the veteran. I can take two KPs. It would be great if scum simply shot me because it would waste one KP of them.
2. Assuming that I'd either eat the roleblock OR the roleblock plus the KP, I thought I'd give another night to the real cop to handle the situation.
3. Doctor cannot heal himself. So a dedicated roleblock to kill him would not be necessary, which made me think that scum would actually waste a KP on me without actually killing a townie and instead roleblock somewhere else. Since scum cannot know who the last blue role (because the last blue role, mind you, has not claimed!) is, scum would've guessed a roleblock somewhere - and I'd have eaten the KP.

Moosy chose me as his fakeclaim target for various reasons.

a) I am a low activity player and thus easy to be set up for a mislynch.
b) I pressured him as scum for two consecutive days.

Why did I wait so long to clarify my situation?

I waited for Jealous' reaction. Remember this:

On June 10 2016 08:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:35 Tictock wrote:
I think Jealous is town now though. His attempt at shennanies threw me a little, but he was active and engaging me around EoD. Also the concern over blues claiming feels genuine.

i checked jealous n1 and he was town.


Jealous was almost universally townread. He made his huge list post about who read who how at which point in time. What is easier than making up a green check on a guy who appears towny to the most anyways? That is why MoosyDoosy claims to have checked Jealous - because it is the safest call to do it.

However, the almost universally townread Jealous was never a target of the scum team. Why not? Scum started D1 by killing Tumblewood, a player who was universally townread. D2 cycle ended with scum killing FecalFeast, a player that was under literally 0 pressure of being scum. But I ask ALL OF YOU: Was FecalFeast more town than Jealous? No! He was not! So the only reason that Jealous is alive is actually that he is scum with MoosyDoosy.

That's is the world we live in. MoosyDoosy and Jealous are 2/3 scum players. The third one hides most likely between Superbia, Scott, Emperor, Skynx, and Tictock. The fact that Superbia was the only active person besides Moosy over the last 24-ish hours makes me believe that he is actually town, tunneling me a lot. Superbia, reconsider your read on me. You're proud of your seemingly 95% correct reads from day 1? Show me one, only one freaking game on this site where this happened. You will wake up once I hang, and you'll say something post-game like "oh damn I was so wrong, if only I had not lynched beentheredonethat".

Yes. It might've been a bad play in hindsight. But I beg you guys to remember: this is a newbie game. Mistakes happen.

Please - ##vote MoosyDoosy. Safe town, safe the game.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 11 2016 20:33 GMT
#1814
Oh cmon someone must be here
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 21:35 GMT
#1815
Playing dnd. Anyway, nice effort but we'd need a doc or vigi counter claim to back that up.
Minimal effort.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 11 2016 21:37 GMT
#1816
I'm here!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 11 2016 21:37 GMT
#1817
but i dunno if I buy it, sorry :'(
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 21:38 GMT
#1818
Cop*
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 21:39 GMT
#1819
Yeah. I appreciate the effort from a player point of view but I'm pretty sure you're not my alignment. :p
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 11 2016 21:40 GMT
#1820
Lol
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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