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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 10 2016 20:41 GMT
#1781
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
June 10 2016 20:44 GMT
#1782
Day 3 vote count




Beentheredonethat (4): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous
Superbia(1): Tictock
MoosyDoosy(1): Beentheredonethat

Not voting (2): Skynx, emperorchampion


Currently, Beentheredonethat, is set to be executed. Day 3 ends in All votes must be casted in the voting thread here: Link.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:46 GMT
#1783
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.

That's straaange. Then I guess we really do have a doctor, cop, and veteran. :3 Well, we still have a day left anyway until we see your flip.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:48 GMT
#1784
The only other possibility I can see is if Jealous is the Godfather but that would be quite something.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 20:51 GMT
#1785
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.

If this is the case, the only explanation is that the game was set up incorrectly, and then we've all been playing in a dream world that was actually a nightmare.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 10 2016 20:54 GMT
#1786
No. The solution simply is that MoosyDoosy is not a cop. You guys do not even consider this and you run into your own doom. Tictock and Emperor are the only correct voters here.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 10 2016 20:56 GMT
#1787
I just read myself as emperor. Wow. Emperor is probably the last scum if I think about him. We completely dismissed our d2 thoughts.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 10 2016 20:59 GMT
#1788
Superbia, MoosyDoosy, Emperor. Game solved. If there is post-game Talk, please quote this post when talking about how I solved the game but town was too ..not saying dumb, but it's not very intelligent, too... to win.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 21:13 GMT
#1789
On June 11 2016 05:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
Superbia, MoosyDoosy, Emperor. Game solved. If there is post-game Talk, please quote this post when talking about how I solved the game but town was too ..not saying dumb, but it's not very intelligent, too... to win.

Do you still not understand how mathematically your claim was obviously false, or...?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 21:16 GMT
#1790
On June 11 2016 05:51 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.

If this is the case, the only explanation is that the game was set up incorrectly, and then we've all been playing in a dream world that was actually a nightmare.

This would be the absolute worst case scenario. Actually, there are normally preset role scenarios in most newbie games but it doesn't look like it was applied here which makes me a sad panda. I will willingly screenshot my role PM post game as Gaius as well.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 21:22 GMT
#1791
On June 11 2016 06:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:51 Jealous wrote:
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.

If this is the case, the only explanation is that the game was set up incorrectly, and then we've all been playing in a dream world that was actually a nightmare.

This would be the absolute worst case scenario. Actually, there are normally preset role scenarios in most newbie games but it doesn't look like it was applied here which makes me a sad panda. I will willingly screenshot my role PM post game as Gaius as well.

I will second this as Pompey, but I don't think this is necessary. It would only invite fabrications and the like from any trying to claim false roles and it's not very hard to do. I would rather leave that door open and if anyone chooses to cross it, we would have an instance of try-hard, no?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2016 21:34 GMT
#1792
I'll be going out of town for the weekend, but I'll check in and such. I'm happy where my vote is.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 21:59 GMT
#1793
On June 11 2016 06:34 scott31337 wrote:
I'll be going out of town for the weekend, but I'll check in and such. I'm happy where my vote is.

you have to be happy or your scum lol. Who do you think are the remaining scum members?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2016 22:20 GMT
#1794
On June 11 2016 06:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 06:34 scott31337 wrote:
I'll be going out of town for the weekend, but I'll check in and such. I'm happy where my vote is.

you have to be happy or your scum lol. Who do you think are the remaining scum members?


Skynx would be at the top of my list.

The third one I'm quite unsure of though - I'd have to re-read filters and VCA.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 10 2016 23:17 GMT
#1795
On June 11 2016 02:11 Jealous wrote:
I'm Vet.

BTDT is scum.

Moosy is cop.

Anyone defending BTDT is probably scum also.

Superbia by extension must be town.

Discuss.


I assumed this was the case based on your reactions to the suggestion that blues claim.

Also in reply to Skynx questioning Moosy's check on BtDt. Honestly I find it more townie that his check there isn't totally logical. Scum who fake claim usually try to create a very believable story that lines up with what they said previously as perfectly as possible. Town tends to make stranger choices (one game some time ago we had a Town RB who literally RB'd mafia's NK target pretty much every single night).
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 10 2016 23:22 GMT
#1796
On June 11 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

Alright nice.

A team of Tictock/Skynx/beentheredonethat fits with the idea of a low-key scum team that didn't have much thread presence but was quiet enough that town was lost in the early chaos at the start of the game.


Seriously?

How in the hell do you think I am mafia with BtDt and Skynx?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 10 2016 23:47 GMT
#1797
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.


Based on the OP 2 protective roles are impossible, and having looked at the setup enough I understand why Cop/Doc/Framer is impossible now. It seems as though mafia is guaranteed to have a RB and the role that the rolls determine is Framer/GF.

Cop/Vet setup would mean that mafia has a Framer though.

Best guess is that BtDt is the RB/Framer, and mafia tried to Frame Emp last night. Would explain why in his original claim he believed mafia had both RB and Framer (they do).
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 11 2016 00:01 GMT
#1798
Soooo based off of the last few things, if we assume that btdt is straight up mafia and wasn't framed, we have no idea if there is actually a framer, or a cop or a vet LOL.

But yeah, if Jealous and Moosy are legit then maf has a Framer.

Oh my god, if Jealous is actually godfather I would cry (mostly out of awe).

Sorry I can't really contribute much at the moment, had a pretty long day and don't really feel like thinking anymore.

TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 11 2016 02:04 GMT
#1799
Please post your reads on town/scum 2/2
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 11 2016 09:20 GMT
#1800
Jesus christ read my posts people.

There is always 1 vigi OR cop (never 1 cop AND 1 vigi or 2 cops or w/e).
There is always 1 doc OR vet (never 1 doc AND 1 vet or 2 docs or w/e).
Minimal effort.
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