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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2016 18:13 GMT
#1761
I am not the cop.
I am not the vigi.

Therefore I believe moosy is the real town cop.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 10 2016 18:16 GMT
#1762
On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:
Please please someone claim cop...


Yeah I think we lynch you tomorrow.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1763
On June 11 2016 02:11 Jealous wrote:
I'm Vet.

BTDT is scum.

Moosy is cop.

Anyone defending BTDT is probably scum also.

Superbia by extension must be town.

Discuss.

looool nice
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1764
Great. It's vet and doc then and you're not only lynching the doc, you also revealed the last blue to scum. Once I flip, the game is over if I counted correctly.

GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1765
high five jealous!
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:20 GMT
#1766
it worries me slightly that btdt is tryharding to not be lynched but i'm going to hope shapelog actually did balance this game so that we don't actually have vet, doctor, and cop all in one game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:27 GMT
#1767
On June 11 2016 03:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Great. It's vet and doc then and you're not only lynching the doc, you also revealed the last blue to scum. Once I flip, the game is over if I counted correctly.

GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third.

nah. there's never a set up with two protective roles.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:46 GMT
#1768
On June 11 2016 03:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
high five jealous!

Hi5
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:48 GMT
#1769
On June 11 2016 03:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Great. It's vet and doc then and you're not only lynching the doc, you also revealed the last blue to scum. Once I flip, the game is over if I counted correctly.

GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third.

Just for the record, it's impossible for Cop-Doc-Faker to be in the same game. So the scenario that you got faked and came up red for Moosy is impossible. The scenario that Moosy is scum and you are doc and I am vet is impossible. I am vet. You are scum.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:50 GMT
#1770
On June 11 2016 03:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
it worries me slightly that btdt is tryharding to not be lynched but i'm going to hope shapelog actually did balance this game so that we don't actually have vet, doctor, and cop all in one game.

It seems like standard panic-mode backpeddle to me.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 10 2016 19:55 GMT
#1771
You didn't have to claim z_z also slightly annoyed I was wrong
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:55 GMT
#1772
So now that both blue roles are out, I am willing to bet that Moosy will get killed tonight, and their roleblocker is useless (since we know that faker doesn't exist, it must mean that they have a roleblocker, unless I misunderstood something somewhere). After that, there is no benefit for them to lynch me over another town because the only role that roleblocker can block is mine, and would have to do so to kill anyway. There is no point in exploring the option that Moosy is scum and I am scum and that BTDT is innocent because if that is the case, then the game will be over. There is only a point in exploring this - who are the remaining scum? I've posted my reads, although I did have to EBWOP to include a little level of uncertainty. All the remaining town, please give it your all today because it is pivotal. I want all the input, and given the low amount of remaining town, it should be relatively evident who is trying to save someone's hide and who is actually in it for the town. Let's have an open discussion about it - there are 3 confirmed towns today and 1 confirmed scum, leaving 2 town and 2 scum to be discovered. Let's explore the possible T/M divisions with that in mind.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:58 GMT
#1773
On June 11 2016 04:55 Superbia wrote:
You didn't have to claim z_z also slightly annoyed I was wrong

I felt that today was a crucial day and it solidifies Moosy's claim and BTDT's crime. If someone else had come with a CC prior to me, it would have thrown a wrench in the works. As I explained above, roleblocker's last remaining use is to make sure I get killed in one night, which is not a relevant metric if we didn't overcome this hurdle today. I've effectively become a VT, but if my assumptions are correct and you didn't play an insane long-con, then Moosy, yourself, and I are all town. Please refer to the above post for the direction I think we should be heading in today for the remaining hours.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 19:58 GMT
#1774
Backpedal* I believe
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:22 GMT
#1775
On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.

It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.

As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:

Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy

Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.

I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.

My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.

I kinda want to townread scott because of this post.

On June 09 2016 18:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay, hello everyone. I am here, having some "spare" time at work, and will be here for the next few hours. Seeing MoosyDoosy's development in the last day, I want to refrain from my scum read. I think his participation and also the value of his posts greatly increased during the last cycle, and although I do not agree fully with everything that he says, I can see and understand where he's coming from with his opinions and reads.

Contrary to day one, we actually had two wagons forming, one on emperorchampion and one on kushmountains. For some time, it was a rather close call (4 votes vs. 4 votes), and EC himself plus Jealous where responsible for the final hammer on thekushmountains. Jealous IMHO is still a townie although I'm feeling a bit paranoid about the blank pass I gave him thus far. Not enough to not townread him though.

We have had only two wagons. So I say we lynch emperorchampion the next day and we'll learn a LOT: if he flips scum, we can be pretty sure that at least two, maybe all three scummers have voted the thekushmointains train. There was noone (besides kush himself) who voted outside of the wagons which makes me assume that this lynch wagon was actually a scum vs. town wagon.

If there is a vigilante in, I strongly suggest to kill emperorchampion this night. Superbia already did this but then said it's a bad idea - I don't think it's a bad idea. Emperorchampion has the highest chance to flip scum out of everyone who's currently playing this game IMHO.

Also, what about blkCoffee? Having someone in who's potentially lurking can be (and is!) detrimental for town. It's the second time he did not vote nor is he participating. Will we see a flip any time soon? A replacement?


I kinda want to townread emperorchampion because of this post.

Which makes the townies:
Jealous
Moosy
emperorchampion
scott31337

Rest to sort:
Skynx
Tictock
Superbia

Mafia:
beentheredonethat
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:23 GMT
#1776
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 20:25 GMT
#1777
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 10 2016 20:26 GMT
#1778
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

EBWOP it may be worthwhile to examine his previous reads to look for inconsistencies, but I have company over so I can't atm.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:26 GMT
#1779
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

Alright nice.

A team of Tictock/Skynx/beentheredonethat fits with the idea of a low-key scum team that didn't have much thread presence but was quiet enough that town was lost in the early chaos at the start of the game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:27 GMT
#1780
On June 11 2016 05:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

EBWOP it may be worthwhile to examine his previous reads to look for inconsistencies, but I have company over so I can't atm.

Yeah I did that. His early reads are actually remarkably correct and it can be a ballsy scum play to call everything at the start of the game (like when I double bused my teammates when I was Mafia once) but I don't think he'd draw suspicion to beentheredonethat too early as you stated.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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