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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:50 GMT
#1581
#moneychecks

#2pro

#bestblueever

#hashtag

:3
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 09 2016 23:51 GMT
#1582
So if we mislynch, town loses unless a miracle happens and scum targets vet or a person who was being protected. I see now why blues coming out today could be crucial, in both directions. In my opinion, here it is by role breakdown:

Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory.

Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out.

Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing.

Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Thoughts?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:52 GMT
#1583
reminds me of the time i forced rels + his mafia team to concede because I happened to be town roleblocker and they were trying to pull a mislynch off me. :D

Sorry Rels mr. mafia coach. Looks like I'm still screwing you over even though you're not a player.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 09 2016 23:53 GMT
#1584
Ah, well looks like I was typing that, we have one person claiming.

Thoughts on the other role analyses, however?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:54 GMT
#1585
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?

n1 jealous town check

there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:55 GMT
#1586
ez money boi's, townread everyone btdt was pushing on and figure out the game from there. probably not as easy as that but you guys catch my drift.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#1587
Gg
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#1588
emperorchampion is probably unfortunately town which means that skynx is the mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#1589
Also, there are three possibilities that MoosyDoosy's revelations so far have shown:

1. Moosy is cop, I am town, BTDT is scum.

2. Moosy is scum, I am town and he is saying this because a. he knows it to be true and b. it gives his claim traction, BTDT is town. However, if another cop appears, things could get interesting.

3. Moosy is scum, I am scum, BTDT is town.

Since I know that I'm town, it's between 1 and 2 for me. Unless another cop speaks up or two more roles do, which unfortunately I think would be unwise, it's relatively impossible to verify or contradict Moosy's claims imo.

I honestly pray that there isn't a scenario where we have 1 vet, 1 medic, and Moosy claiming a non-extant cop role. That would suck.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#1590
On June 10 2016 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Gg

don't worry i carry game from here.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#1591
I'm sure that super is town, you're barking up the wrong tree there for sure
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 09 2016 23:57 GMT
#1592
On June 10 2016 08:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?

n1 jealous town check

there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster.

I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:58 GMT
#1593
now we just need to wait for mafia team to come up with counterclaim.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 23:59 GMT
#1594
On June 10 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?

n1 jealous town check

there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster.

I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter.

because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 10 2016 00:00 GMT
#1595
On June 10 2016 08:51 Jealous wrote:
So if we mislynch, town loses unless a miracle happens and scum targets vet or a person who was being protected. I see now why blues coming out today could be crucial, in both directions. In my opinion, here it is by role breakdown:

Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory.

Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out.

Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing.

Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Thoughts?


If there is a Vig this game they are terrible for holding their shot this long.

Vet could go either way, probably better for them not to claim unless they need to CC. Kus if you are Vet and 2 other people claim, then you know one of them is mafia. If mafia have a RB and think Vet is a possibility then they are probably RBing their NK's anyway.
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 10 2016 00:00 GMT
#1596
Well i think everyone else is either chronic afk or sleeping atm
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 10 2016 00:02 GMT
#1597
On June 10 2016 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?

n1 jealous town check

there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster.

I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter.

because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely.

Could you elaborate on "mechanical?"
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 00:02 GMT
#1598
Vote beentheredonethat for now to put the pressure on him and the scum team to respond in some way. You can always change your votes later anyway.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 10 2016 00:04 GMT
#1599
On June 10 2016 09:00 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:51 Jealous wrote:
So if we mislynch, town loses unless a miracle happens and scum targets vet or a person who was being protected. I see now why blues coming out today could be crucial, in both directions. In my opinion, here it is by role breakdown:

Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory.

Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out.

Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing.

Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Thoughts?


If there is a Vig this game they are terrible for holding their shot this long.

Vet could go either way, probably better for them not to claim unless they need to CC. Kus if you are Vet and 2 other people claim, then you know one of them is mafia. If mafia have a RB and think Vet is a possibility then they are probably RBing their NK's anyway.

I see, that makes sense, didn't think of that. Curse the mafia and their coordination!

Since I am town and have been purportedly confirmed as town by a cop, would it make sense to examine the people that held suspicions against me in their reads? There has never been a push to lynch me, which I am surprised about, but then again I have been pretty much working in scum's favor unintentionally so I guess they didn't have much reason to push for my lynch or NK me.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 00:04 GMT
#1600
On June 10 2016 09:02 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?

n1 jealous town check

there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster.

I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter.

because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely.

Could you elaborate on "mechanical?"

This is less reliable than straight up analysis imo but it's reading the tone in posts. For example, your posts are flavored with a lawyer-like tone. emperorchampion seems generally happy in his posts. I seem generally trolly. On the other hand, beentheredonethat's posts all read like they're being spewed out by an analysis machine which made me feel strange about him. Like it's great he's doing analysis but why are you so distant from the rest of town kind of vibe.

Again, it's not certain which made me put him in my tinfoil category and use my N2 check on him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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