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MoosyDoosy
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Jealous
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Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory. Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out. Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing. Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter. Thoughts? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
Sorry Rels mr. mafia coach. Looks like I'm still screwing you over even though you're not a player.  | ||
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Jealous
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Thoughts on the other role analyses, however? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote: What were your other checks? And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx? n1 jealous town check there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Fecalfeast
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Jealous
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1. Moosy is cop, I am town, BTDT is scum. 2. Moosy is scum, I am town and he is saying this because a. he knows it to be true and b. it gives his claim traction, BTDT is town. However, if another cop appears, things could get interesting. 3. Moosy is scum, I am scum, BTDT is town. Since I know that I'm town, it's between 1 and 2 for me. Unless another cop speaks up or two more roles do, which unfortunately I think would be unwise, it's relatively impossible to verify or contradict Moosy's claims imo. I honestly pray that there isn't a scenario where we have 1 vet, 1 medic, and Moosy claiming a non-extant cop role. That would suck. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On June 10 2016 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Gg don't worry i carry game from here. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Jealous
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On June 10 2016 08:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: n1 jealous town check there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster. I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On June 10 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote: I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter. because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 10 2016 08:51 Jealous wrote: So if we mislynch, town loses unless a miracle happens and scum targets vet or a person who was being protected. I see now why blues coming out today could be crucial, in both directions. In my opinion, here it is by role breakdown: Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory. Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out. Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing. Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter. Thoughts? If there is a Vig this game they are terrible for holding their shot this long. Vet could go either way, probably better for them not to claim unless they need to CC. Kus if you are Vet and 2 other people claim, then you know one of them is mafia. If mafia have a RB and think Vet is a possibility then they are probably RBing their NK's anyway. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Jealous
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On June 10 2016 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely. Could you elaborate on "mechanical?" | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Jealous
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On June 10 2016 09:00 Tictock wrote: If there is a Vig this game they are terrible for holding their shot this long. Vet could go either way, probably better for them not to claim unless they need to CC. Kus if you are Vet and 2 other people claim, then you know one of them is mafia. If mafia have a RB and think Vet is a possibility then they are probably RBing their NK's anyway. I see, that makes sense, didn't think of that. Curse the mafia and their coordination! Since I am town and have been purportedly confirmed as town by a cop, would it make sense to examine the people that held suspicions against me in their reads? There has never been a push to lynch me, which I am surprised about, but then again I have been pretty much working in scum's favor unintentionally so I guess they didn't have much reason to push for my lynch or NK me. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
This is less reliable than straight up analysis imo but it's reading the tone in posts. For example, your posts are flavored with a lawyer-like tone. emperorchampion seems generally happy in his posts. I seem generally trolly. On the other hand, beentheredonethat's posts all read like they're being spewed out by an analysis machine which made me feel strange about him. Like it's great he's doing analysis but why are you so distant from the rest of town kind of vibe. Again, it's not certain which made me put him in my tinfoil category and use my N2 check on him. | ||
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