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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 04 2016 20:18 GMT
#681
On June 04 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:49 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them


Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like.

finding scum is just one of the three pillars of being townie
1) find scum
2) establish your towniness
3) form a town circle with other townies


Also I just remembered this post from earlier, which I happen to really like.

Just curious, is this the order of importance you would rank them?
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 04 2016 21:26 GMT
#682
The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 04 2016 21:33 GMT
#683
I'm tired of phone reading with my girlfriend here so I'll just post what i have so far

Super probably didn't roll scum for the 10th time.
Jealous is making posts i don't really want read but is being towny
Quicktwist is being trolly but having moments of clarity so i can't be too upset with him

I think skynx is scummy because he is hardly commenting on anything relevant when he posts while also not chatting it up or anything. Posting for the sake of posting

I'm only on page 27 so grains of salt all around

I'm going for slurpees anyone want anything?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 04 2016 21:34 GMT
#684
Oh yeah i also like emperorchamp for town
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 04 2016 21:50 GMT
#685
On June 05 2016 06:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm tired of phone reading with my girlfriend here so I'll just post what i have so far

Super probably didn't roll scum for the 10th time.
Jealous is making posts i don't really want read but is being towny
Quicktwist is being trolly but having moments of clarity so i can't be too upset with him

I think skynx is scummy because he is hardly commenting on anything relevant when he posts while also not chatting it up or anything. Posting for the sake of posting

I'm only on page 27 so grains of salt all around

I'm going for slurpees anyone want anything?


One of the few things I miss about Western Canada, can't find a decent slurpee in Montreal
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2016 23:18 GMT
#686
Hey what's going on - let me catch up a bit
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2016 23:23 GMT
#687
I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2016 23:34 GMT
#688
On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote:
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.


hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 04 2016 23:37 GMT
#689
I think emporor is town too

The whole thread, minus a few posts are all one-liners so it's hard to get a read on anybody really
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 04 2016 23:48 GMT
#690
Page 28 is bad and the amount spam between jealous and quicktwizzler has turned me off reading again.

I like tumble now also
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
June 05 2016 00:03 GMT
#691
On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too.

Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 05 2016 00:33 GMT
#692
On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too.

Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you?

Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway.

So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 05 2016 00:34 GMT
#693
On June 05 2016 08:18 scott31337 wrote:
Hey what's going on - let me catch up a bit

hehHehEHeh hello scott.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
June 05 2016 00:36 GMT
#694
On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too.

Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you?

Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway.

So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me.

I see. Too bad you've shown your hand to all the newcomers as well ^^ Stay safe!

What does tunneled mean btw?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:03 GMT
#695
On June 04 2016 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:49 QuickTwist wrote:
And I'll just say this right now. I am not a Vet.

I know because I'm the vet.


Fucnking beautiful.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:12 GMT
#696
On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says.
BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies.

yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me.


Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:16 GMT
#697
On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says.
BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies.

yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me.


you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:21 GMT
#698
OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.

If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.

For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
June 05 2016 02:30 GMT
#699
driving from maine to kentucky. please kill me.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
June 05 2016 02:43 GMT
#700
On June 05 2016 11:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
driving from maine to kentucky. please kill me.

Try to enjoy it I used to like long drives like that, lots of introspect time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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