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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 01:47 GMT
#501
hi kush
On June 04 2016 10:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
The single biggest indicator of alignment is consistent activity. That is why we need to kill a lurker day 1.

okay with plynches but not for that reason. in newbie games mafia is lynched almost never on d1 so I'd rather take my chances on someone who won't contribute than someone who might turn out to be a helpful townie
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 01:47 GMT
#502
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them
good times for all
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 01:49 GMT
#503
On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them


Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 01:54 GMT
#504
On June 04 2016 10:49 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them


Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like.

finding scum is just one of the three pillars of being townie
1) find scum
2) establish your towniness
3) form a town circle with other townies
good times for all
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 01:55 GMT
#505
On June 04 2016 10:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:49 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them


Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like.

finding scum is just one of the three pillars of being townie
1) find scum
2) establish your towniness
3) form a town circle with other townies


Its always door number 2.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:00 GMT
#506
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 04 2016 02:08 GMT
#507
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:11 GMT
#508
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:13 GMT
#509
I should try to be dismissive as Scum. Yes next game I will try that.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 04 2016 02:15 GMT
#510
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 04 2016 02:16 GMT
#511
On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.

EBWOP

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#13
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:24 GMT
#512
OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.

He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.

For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 02:25 GMT
#513
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game
I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act
good times for all
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:25 GMT
#514
On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.


I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 02:27 GMT
#515
wait what
qt why did you vote ("vote") me in this thread and then vote sqrt in the voting thread? what do you mean by that?
good times for all
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10334 Posts
June 04 2016 02:28 GMT
#516
On June 04 2016 11:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game
I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act

You have to remember that he is not new to Mafia, just new to TL Mafia. That being said, knowing that he is an experienced player only throws more confusion into the mix when considering his posts and actions. Confusion is not good for a town win, in my opinion.

On June 04 2016 11:25 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.


I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite?

This makes no sense.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:29 GMT
#517
On June 04 2016 11:27 Tumblewood wrote:
wait what
qt why did you vote ("vote") me in this thread and then vote sqrt in the voting thread? what do you mean by that?


Just seeing if you were paying attention.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:30 GMT
#518
On June 04 2016 11:28 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game
I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act

You have to remember that he is not new to Mafia, just new to TL Mafia. That being said, knowing that he is an experienced player only throws more confusion into the mix when considering his posts and actions. Confusion is not good for a town win, in my opinion.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.


I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite?

This makes no sense.


I make reads by being extreeeeemmmeeeee!
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 04 2016 02:31 GMT
#519
On June 04 2016 11:24 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.

He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.

For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.

his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden.
townread suspended
good times for all
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 02:32 GMT
#520
On June 04 2016 11:28 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game
I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act

You have to remember that he is not new to Mafia, just new to TL Mafia. That being said, knowing that he is an experienced player only throws more confusion into the mix when considering his posts and actions. Confusion is not good for a town win, in my opinion.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:25 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:15 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:08 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509798-newbie-student-mafia-xxi-voting-thread#12

??


Problem?

You say one thing but do another, despite the fact that finding the discrepancy is stupidly easy. Either you're scum or just... How can I put this nicely... A very individualistic and selfish townie. Either way, I think the game would be better off without you.


I agree! The game would totally be better without me. Why change things up amirite?

This makes no sense.


FWIW I use to have the same perspective that you have about the game. Just play strait forward and don't take any chances. I have found that style of play to be the more difficult way to play.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
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