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On May 07 2016 02:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 02:51 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 02:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@shapelog.
in regards to palmar, I changed my mind.
Why? I realized that thinking Killing was scummy actualyl wasn't a result of insight. It was just a very obvious place to go. So it's not townie that Palmar went there.
criticizing jat for doing something I was doing: Um, well not exactly because I had JAT in my possibly scumlist, but kinda. I was trying to goad JAT into mindmelding with me but it didn't really work. I wanted him to say something like "yeah bro, but who else?!"
So that push on JAT wasn't about seeing if he was scummy, rather it was about seeing if he was townie.
Alright I understand the Palmar But why are you trying to get your scum read to think? like you, and make him do so? That doesn't make sense. You know that he/she will only think like you due to you goating them into doing so. So that doesn't make them townie needless to say. Since they are just going with the flow. It really is impossible to use that as a metric IMO to see if someone is town..... maybe goading is the wrong word. Maybe the angle I was pushing at there was not effective. But it should be understandable that I was trying to get inside JAT's head. And I was trying to see if it looked like the inside of my own head.
Then why do you even have lynchbaiting people in your scum pool, and noone else other than JAT?
By your own logic, you should be having more than those people in there, because by your logic, they mostly will be wrong. Unless there is something I am missing.
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On May 07 2016 02:54 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me" But you say that they are typically wrong, which means that you do not believe in what you are currently viewing them. But you continue on, and post another post with the list. And only remove Fazer because of something ulrealted. which makes me think you do not even believe the thing you sent to JAT. and you taught me, that if it seems someone won't believe his own reads, they are mafia. Which means your mafia, by your own reasoning.
My reads are a best guess. I've POEd into that group of people. Maybe I towned someone like Alakaslam prematurely. I don't really have a strong belief that anyone is scum.
I think my list looks too easy. That means it's unlikely but it's still possible. Some games are just easy.
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I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong.
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On May 07 2016 02:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 02:54 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me" But you say that they are typically wrong, which means that you do not believe in what you are currently viewing them. But you continue on, and post another post with the list. And only remove Fazer because of something ulrealted. which makes me think you do not even believe the thing you sent to JAT. and you taught me, that if it seems someone won't believe his own reads, they are mafia. Which means your mafia, by your own reasoning. My reads are a best guess. I've POEd into that group of people. Maybe I towned someone like Alakaslam prematurely. I don't really have a strong belief that anyone is scum. I think my list looks too easy. That means it's unlikely but it's still possible. Some games are just easy.
So,
You POE into the that group, which consists of 4 people who matches the questions you asked JAT.
You ask JAT the questions
JAT responds
You get rid of Fazer. 3/4 meet it.
You also Have no belief that no one is strongly scum? How? You are scum reading Palmar, and voting for him before 3/4's of the other players have even voted? Yes you doubted your read, yet you come back to it, and still voting for him.
How is that guy not strongly scum in your eyes?
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Remember that newbie you rolled scum in. That is me strongly believing something. You see the difference right?
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On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong.
So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way?
What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game?
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On May 07 2016 03:08 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong. So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way? What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game?
well you can't rely on the second approach alone, but it helps you second guess your reads.
Is this helping you get a read on me?
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On May 07 2016 03:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Remember that newbie you rolled scum in. That is me strongly believing something. You see the difference right?
I know very what allowed me to win that game. I also know that you were strong believing In Team that our reads were right like with Rels and the anger on D1.
So yes it is missing, which is why I do not understand why it is not here.
You have a person who you are voting for before 75% of the town has casted a vote. You orgnially voted at 10/12 people not voting.
So you had to be certain he was scum then.
The townie post happen
You have said that you changed your mind, and he is still scum.
Now you say no one is strongly scum.
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just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all.
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On May 07 2016 03:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:08 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong. So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way? What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game? well you can't rely on the second approach alone, but it helps you second guess your reads. Is this helping you get a read on me?
I had a read before this conversation on you.
It has gotten redder.
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why would voting early necessarily mean I should be super sure?
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On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all.
What makes him better right now.
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On May 07 2016 03:17 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all. What makes him better right now.
lack of activity makes him a good plynch
the nk on marv, especially after palmar townread him
nothing townie in what he's saying
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Day 2 Votecount
Palmar (3): marvellosity, nnn_thekushmountains, justanothertownie
Not Voting (9): Mig, Fazers, Etellex, DrParnassus, RiceyKins, Palmar, Alakaslam, Shapelog, Killing
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dude i'm not vs him because im townread him
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On May 07 2016 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
I am a fan of staying the course. Palmar seems too townie right now.
Call him svengali master but he has pretty much convinced me that others could have shot Marv.
Loathe this post.
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Id almost lynch him for it alone if lynching palmar wasn't so fun
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Because even if palmar is town, nothing he has done is 'so townie'
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Too townie even. Even worse.
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