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On April 27 2016 04:20 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 04:03 gumshoe wrote:On April 27 2016 03:57 GlowingBear wrote:On April 27 2016 03:52 gumshoe wrote:also, you realize this I've admitted the case on SL was much more to keep discussion ongoing instead of really pushing him. is a bad thing right? You understand that scum like to make faint cases against each other right? Clearly you do, as you attacked ls for a faint case early on. Wow, suddenly gumshoe is likely town. After you were suspicious of his vote. A quick shift from the original suspicion. I don't like it. mang, its like your hacking off fingers to replace to fix your nose / : It's exactly what you do every game when you're town ROFL Also, just to be clear, I was NEVER against lynching SL, I just knew the case was weak to grant a lynch on him for solely that I never make faint cases bro, I go all the fuck out XD when I make a case I do it cause I think there scum. when I voted damdred I thought he was scum, but his answer assuaged me, your lazy hole pocking does none of that for me now also there was a point where sl was very close to getting lynched, and you showed up conviniently right after that window. And regardless of what you say about sl, what the facts state is that you let him slip. No explanation now can fully fix actions that happened then / : hence my lack of me reconsideration during our current discourse. You DO realise I made a legit case that I simply thought it was weak to grant a lynch? And you're saying that I, as scum, see my partber getting lynched and do nothing to change that scenario, but then when he isn't getting lynched I show up just to... Rant on the lynch. Yeah. So you think I should evaluate Koshi considering an agenda and that's how you evaluate tbings and how People with minimal understanding of the game evaluate things, but when you're evaluating me, you don't have to consider an agenda. I'm done talking to you, you are Mafia, period. If anyone has questions to me regarding any of those points discussed, feel free to ask. I'm voting no one else today. And if you want to lynch me, fine. Just lynch gumshoe tomorrow
I dont have to prove why scum would do it because dyh did it XD
There is something wrong here, either in my reads or in this wagon. Top scum is voting with top town on someone I considered nullish.
April 21 2016 15:28 PDT
time of your post
April 21 2016 15:28 PDT
This lunch is obviously not hitting mafia
dont blame me for your scummy play mang / :
also im not the one who was putting out the agenda, you thought me and koshi were scum, you thought koshi was bieng wierd not votting me, the world knows how to do basic addition gb XD
Also you know I do this as town brah, did it to vivax in vanilla XD i was actually wrong there , but that had more to do with how well Bh was playing. I doubt we have a similar scam running here and even if we do we have the mislynches to weed it out.
Point is you throwing up your hands and saying I have to be scum isnt what town does brah, townies have to deal with other townies coming after them all the time, its the game. Being frustrated doesn't give you the right to stop playing, especially when you know I play like this as town.
good thing your not town this game : P
Also your "lol your not this bad argument" doesnt work. Me and hts currently find you scummy, which means if your town one of us really is that bad. So your argument is broken by virtue of having more than one skilled player find you scummy / :
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On April 27 2016 04:27 Half the Sky wrote:8/40 Well hold on here. I'm reading 855/856/859. I don't understand part of your push on GB now. Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 04:12 gumshoe wrote:
but yeah gb let me clarify,
if you had posted 3 or however more many hours after the lynch, then there would be no point here for me.
But the fact that you showed up just in time to be useless and mock town(just like dyh did) opens up the possibility that you had been there a little while before, watching as town doomed themselves.
given everything else I know about you (dyh asociation, the tic exchange, your push on koshi, your shitty night 2, your abandoning of your sl read, your omega town read of dyh) theres just seems to be a lot more suggesting this vote lurker possibility rather then the snarky happen stance you would have us believe / : Am I derping or missing something here? Why are you making the assumption that GB would play scum exactly the same way that DYH would? DYH did the opposite - he said he was playing League or whatever and then he lurked but the whole 20m re: Damdred.... ....there's a lot of other issues with GB but....that one isn't definitive. I also don't like the self-meta in #844. And: Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 03:27 gumshoe wrote:On April 27 2016 03:18 GlowingBear wrote:
You're taking a day1 post, going to a day2 post, then going back to a day1 post to say my reads are inconsistent. If you take them out of chronological order there is no way those posts show any consistency.
Also that post of the lynch obviously not hitting Mafia was like 5 minutes before deadline. It was right when I could re-enter the thread. I had an argument with Damdred about that. the bolded is what we cant know. With you bieng in thread within 20 min, we have to assume you very well could have been in thread longer, excuses dont work here as they are just want to be lies / :also the day 2 post is an explantion for the day 1 post XD from an earlier conversation we had. Of course I can use it. I see GB explained why he dropped LS as a scumread, but why this assumption? I remember Damdred accusing GB of doing dick all as a solo voter, so I know GB isn't lying about that. This is nothing of the likes that DYH did. You knew he lurked because he posted after his lynch. Here it's just the opposite situation and GB's previous post was at 19xx or approx. 4 hours before.
sorry can you boil this down? little bit confusing.
my point is that gb said hed sheep damdred and was willing to vote sl.
I can place him in thread at the time of the wagon on sl bieng active, yet he continues to vote ls.
a minute before hand he shows up saying the lynch is bad just like dyh did,
he claims he was gone for the lynch, but he was there half an hour before, and a minute before. Leaving him going out as a 30 min period that did not exist prior to his excuse.
Therefore we have fair reason to bilieve he was here, and he had a chance to make good on his sheep and even fight the ff lynch (who he was convinced was town) but did not.
Thats all im saying / :
his counter is why would he gloat 1 min before, my answer is we dont have to find a reason (though can surely be created)
because dyh did it, therefore there is a reason for it regardless of wether we know it.
wheres the problem?
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On April 27 2016 04:33 Half the Sky wrote:10/40 Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 04:23 gumshoe wrote:also this. I dislike this post from Koshi. He points out problems with LS and Shape but doesn't conclude nothing from it. Then he proceeds to vote... Ta-da! Fecalfeast. this post happened half an hour before the lynch.April 21 2016 11:59 PDT at this point in time, sl was the leading wagon, and damdred was voting sl. while you continued to vote ls... so theres this half an hour gap between you bieng here while the sl wagon was active and not voting sl or sheeping damdred (two things you seemed to indicate youd be willing to do all cycle), and you showing up just in time to mock town (ala dyh) and you never mention that you had to go ethier / : you say you were here just one min before the deadline I was here merely one minute before deadline. How do you expect me to do stuff? but do you understand why I have trouble bilieving that XD thats a rhetorical question btw, I dont need anymore excuses. WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:On April 20 2016 18:58 Koshi wrote:On April 20 2016 18:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think it's weird for everyone to have so many reads so early in the game, to be honest. It's tempting to townread everyone who's doing things right away but really anyone could give an opinion on everyone that's posted with sofew posts actually saying anything.
Basically a long winded way of saying IDK maybe town?
5 btw Well. With limited posts people push out reads harder because they want other people to react on them and confirm their suspicion, or just pressure people with the reads, or further the game and spark discussion. It's a good thing. Also hard reading people town forces mafia to do shit because they might feel antsy if it is true. tldr: I also wont lynch TT before I have at least 1 good reason to townread everybody else. That post was really good and set the bar high for everybody to follow.
I also townread Damdred for starting the game.
I dislike both LS and Shape. Doesn't mean they are mafia but their entrance was weak. But town can enter weak if they pick it up. Shape ending his 5 fluff posts with a pretty unimportant question and then fucking off for x hours is bad. LS is trying but not making waves.
I have issues with this post: On April 20 2016 10:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Aw shit I agree with sicklucker I must be broken Sounds townie but could so easily be made by mafia. Just like most post you make are pure reactionary and controlling. I don't remember you as somebody who is controlling the thread. I dislike this post from Koshi. He points out problems with LS and Shape but doesn't conclude nothing from it. Then he proceeds to vote... Ta-da! Fecalfeast. Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
This lunch is obviously not hitting mafia What on earth are you talking about gumshoe???? Timestamps are showing a difference of 3h30 for me.....almost 2000 local time and then deadline is at 2330, he posts at 2328 wtf?!?!?!?!? How are you just getting half an hour????
April 21 2016 11:59 PDT
time of gb post (half an hour
April 21 2016 15:28 PDT
time of next post(gloat post)
time of lynch April 21 2016 15:25 PDT
do you want screen shots?
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ah fuck, yeah theres a big jump T_T my bad only the gloat post counts.
sorry for the mistake gb ) : you still scum
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I'm sorry, I got a bit zealous, I do that when I feel scum is right I front of me( in the other game I was sure 2 people were scum together,and tried to make things try to fit as such, this has less to do with my alignment and more with my flaws )
Gb is scum I'm sure of that, but yeah I got a bit carried away and fucked up / : on top of thinking gb is scum, I want him to be scum and that is a poor mindset I admit and one I'll try to avoid going forward.
I'll look at hts tic and fedie a filters again in case there's something world consuming in there, but I'm pretty confident about gb, but I'll admit could just be mah confirmation bias flaring.
Also no one should ever be lynched for using the word brah, it's a lovely word.
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On April 27 2016 05:40 Half the Sky wrote:12/40 Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 04:46 gumshoe wrote:
ah fuck, yeah theres a big jump T_T my bad only the gloat post counts.
sorry for the mistake gb ) : you still scum Still this whole exchange doesn't sit well with me. And your previous post, when I say self-meta I mean "I would do X as town/scum" etc. I also didn't like the point (post 866) where you mentioned GB throwing his arms and giving up is mafia, not necessarily. Giving up is NAI. As the point pertains to GB, he has also given up as town when he got mislynched in NSM 18. And he did it in bloody mylo and town lost because of it. It looks suspicious to me between this and the previous assumption it's like you are taking something and stretching it to sound scum indicative. And the fact that GB is voting the person he feels where the votes are literally everywhere else on gumshoe means he's not playing for survival, at least not at the moment. Show nested quote +On April 27 2016 04:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok.
On SL: I thought his posts were suspicious, so I've called him out. I do those kind of things on every game because I always try to develop discussion. It doesn't mean, however, that it was a strong case that I would use as grounds to any lynch. Then I had to be and entire day AFK, and when I came back, I tried to do a big catch up post. In that catch up post I found informational stuff that led me to believe gumshoe and LS were Mafia (and to be fair, I don't even remember what it was). I saw nothing else from SL because I could read only until page 6/7 at that time.
Then I only came back two minutes before deadline to see a lynch that, by VCA, looked like it was going to hit town. I didn't have time to do anything.
I simply forgot about SL. Just like that. Because I thought I saw way more important things to pursue. And as I saw a clear fownie in Damdred, I tried to chat with him so we could work together.
Now, sometimes I reevaluate stuff but I don't state it in thread. LS was one of that reevaluartion. I scum read him almost every game, and Damdred correctly reads him almost every game. So I took Damdred's word for granted. I know I have my limitations as a player, and working together is really important to me when I have a strong town read I trust I want people who are familiar with GB's meta to comment on this response to me. I have my thoughts on it, I know Koshi has said that GB is capable of shitty play (or however he worded it), but I want other opinions. I need to AFK again.
This whole exchange that doesn't sit well with you is based around a mistake, something both factions make hts. Also my comment on him giving up was specifically in reference to his view of my alignment. He has given up on seeing me as town, when in the game we last played, I was forced to do the opposite to have a chance at winning and I feel it's hypocritical of him to act as such. Hypocritical enough that I feel it's due to a forced incositincy. I agree giving up in General is nai, but concluding that someone has to be scum because they are pushing you. You see the merits in my arguments, but gb considers them of such little worth I must be scum, otherwise I wouldn't be making them. That's what seems forced to me.
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I feel like I've done my arguments a disservice by getting into a shouting match with gb / : we both came out of it looking townie when I would have honestly preferred the opposite outcome. People seem to have trouble taking me seriously given my fervour, but I do have a decent shot at being right at these sorts of things but I suppose trust doesn't work like that.
Too sumirise one last time these are the major points vs gb.
1) agreed with tic when they were saying different things in a manner that points to the enforcement of a mislynch.
2) Dyh's risky defense of him
3) his convenient appearance right at the end of day 1.
4) His claim that me pushing him makes me mafia, which town gb would know is certainly not the case(hes well aware of me being derp tunneled as town).
5) His push on koshi in reference to me, his other scum read (claiming koshi was wierd for not voting me) and doubling back on this by saying he never associative read us.
6) his faint sl push.
7) hes a brah
8) his very weak night 2, consistent with scum on the verge of giving up after losing both mates
9) his omega town read of dyh.
10) sls faint attack vs him
I've cut all the frivolous stuff about lying, and meta(mostly) these are the key points of why I am voting gb and am unlikely to change my vote.
I have read the case on fedie, and though his wafflin is notable this post.
WELL THIS FILLS ME WITH FUCKING CONFIDENCE
just before the flip, feels genuine. Makes me think he didnt actually know what dyh was / : as opposed to trying to get people to jump off at the last second, i would use time stamps to prove this but I think ive lost my badge on that account / :
tic tock is also pretty townie to me but most seem to agree on that account so yeah, no need to dig there.
Hts as well.
Clearly whatever more I say will fall on deaf ears as this town simply does not trust me to find scum or even simply not be scum. That distrust is perhaps not unwarranted , but seeing as I'm already pretty spent I'll save what remains of my posts for the night.
Gl town.
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On April 28 2016 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't like fidei's response to being pushed
this is a shitty reason and very easy to refute, but he's responding from a ground of "nah you guys are so silly I'm confirmed town"
then again, I'd expect him to prioritize his survival a lot more if he were last scum
hmmm
not seeing anyone more convincing though
(last post for reals for reals)
Actually the confirmed town thing is a generally a town thing. Townies are always very excited about things that prove theyre town, because now they can just call the other players idiots if they get lynched (see ritoky every game) even if something isnt 100 percent confirming, because its convincing and it lines up with the truth (for an actual townie) townies celebrate and flaunt thier statues, thereby pissing off everyone else ( because in mafia nobody actually considers likely hood of alternative explanations, they just use them to continue pushing whoever they feel like)
Honestly, theres nothing that players hate more than hearing "this makes me confirmed town" while the rest of thier play looks scummy. They will 100 percent disregard that factor as almost any defense (besides hard role claims) can be poked apart and if you piss off enough people its only a matter of time before that happens.
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On April 28 2016 05:34 Fidei86 wrote:No. Please don't. We may have a cop. You presumably haven't claimed till now because you don't have a good check. Don't claim because you can be roleblocked. We may have a vet. The last mafia is a roleblocker, so can one shot you. We may have a medic. You can save tumble or me this evening. Obviously if you are the jailkeeper you should CC me. Koshi - there is no need for a mass claim now. If I make it to LYLO then the claims should come at that stage (or the flips will tell us blue status).
Your wrong, there are only two possibilities, if your telling the truth, your town, if your lying, your scum.
If someone claims, we lynch you and win.
If no ones claims, we never lynch you.
So yes, if someone's doc or dt you should for sure claim right now.
But to lend credit to fedies claim, why would he claim the save on damdred of all people? He could have claimed to have saved anyone else, and there would be no conflict in his claim, this particular detail makes me think he must be town and unless a claim occurs we never lynch fedie.
That leaves tt me and gb, you all know my preference on that account / :
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Lynching hts before gb seems rash. The effort and problem solving seems clear in her play.
Lynching her feels like an unnecessary mErasure when we still have as many mislynches as we do and far more suspicious targets (myself included in that bunch) I don't know how gb came to be town read so hard by so many, but dyh was insistent on clearing him and fedie, with fedie effectively confirmed as of right now, are we to assume that dyh extended himself to protect 2 townies?
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On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote:
Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
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So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline.
You really shouldnt be todays lynch / :
shape is town clearly going by the day 1 lynch, the last second jump onto ff was crazy and totally unececairy for scum.
Why leap to get onto a mislynch?
Gb may look townie, but you all know he plays a good scum game.
The lynch should be between me and gb, me for my shady as fuck day and day 2 vote patterns and gb for all the stuff ive mentioned.
What has he done in the last two cycles besides defend himself? Trust me, that comes naturally to scum.
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On April 28 2016 06:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote:
Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
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So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline. Rofl You've called ME town the whole game and now that I called you Mafia you dropped your case on fidei and is gladly voting me It is TT, guys.
this is what he said yesterday about me XD
I'm done talking to you, you are Mafia, period.
I hate to explain reasons why I am townie as they invalidate those reasons in the first place by showing im aware of them.
But me and gb do not stand on equal ground for our argument.
I extended myself to make sure a specific townie was lynched risking towns ire in the process, earlier hts claimed i was burning through all my posts to try and bury a townie, the issue is if I am scum, I dont need to do that, I just need someone else to die. Essentially I exposed myself and made mistakes for a cause I did not need to pursue.
Gb on the other hand just defended himself, and called me scum for attacking him.
These two stances are entirely different, mine is blatantly suboptimal for scum therefore townie,
gb's is neutral,but also by burning all his posts defending himself/attacking me he doesnt have to really explain why hes not going after anyone else as he just wont have the posts to do so, burning out is advantageous for him as so long as we argue, he looks like hes playing the game.
also guys gb would never drop his read on me so easily for tt / : i havent even swore on my life yet(what it took last time for him to reconsider me)
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On April 28 2016 06:43 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Vote GB
Him or Shape.
like I said, shape lept onto the ff lynch last second / : super duper derpy scum move. Therefore not scum, also he actually posted something of use end of night 2, as opposed to gb.
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On April 28 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 06:31 gumshoe wrote:On April 28 2016 06:15 GlowingBear wrote:On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote:
Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
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So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline. Rofl You've called ME town the whole game and now that I called you Mafia you dropped your case on fidei and is gladly voting me It is TT, guys. this is what he said yesterday about me XD I'm done talking to you, you are Mafia, period. I hate to explain reasons why I am townie as they invalidate those reasons in the first place by showing im aware of them. But me and gb do not stand on equal ground for our argument. I extended myself to make sure a specific townie was lynched risking towns ire in the process, earlier hts claimed i was burning through all my posts to try and bury a townie, the issue is if I am scum, I dont need to do that, I just need someone else to die. Essentially I exposed myself and made mistakes for a cause I did not need to pursue. Gb on the other hand just defended himself, and called me scum for attacking him. These two stances are entirely different, mine is blatantly suboptimal for scum therefore townie,gb's is neutral,but also by burning all his posts defending himself/attacking me he doesnt have to really explain why hes not going after anyone else as he just wont have the posts to do so, burning out is advantageous for him as so long as we argue, he looks like hes playing the game. also guys gb would never drop his read on me so easily for tt / : i havent even swore on my life yet(what it took last time for him to reconsider me) Sub optimal plays do not equal town...... Case in point, Kuru claiming mafia after i cased his ass in Storm. Case in point again, me fucking being 3rd to lynched our doc (ok maybe i forgot he was our doc but still), 3rd, going into lylo with 2 blue roles, one of which are mod confirmed. Also, more onto what this post wanted to talk about, the GB vote was kinda hasty, and really doesn't make sense with the fact Fidei claimed blue....
actually supoptimal is one of the most townie things out there. Acting in ways that will get you lynched, taking risks to ensure one person dies instead of your own survival, thats super townie and if you cant see that you dont understand scums position
scum need at least 3 people they can accuse atm, as they need 3 people to die. Thier survival isnt enough, gb who has jumped from fedie, to me, to tt and is mostly concerned with his own survival perfectly fits the scum archetype.
Me who is chasing down one lead and tring people left and right in ways that make ensuring later mislynches before mine impossible is actually optimal play, just not from a scum view.
him dropping his read on me when I was "sure scum" is not suboptimal, its suspicious and uncharacteristic,
also theres something key your
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On April 28 2016 06:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 06:44 gumshoe wrote:On April 28 2016 06:43 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Vote GB
Him or Shape. like I said, shape lept onto the ff lynch last second / : super duper derpy scum move. Therefore not scum, also he actually posted something of use end of night 2, as opposed to gb. Dude. Don't give me extremely shitty reasons to tr somebody.
Your not playing with idiots koshi / : when a pianist plays a scale it hurts to stop midway, theres something about correctness that draws people to abide the concept.
Jumping onto a mislynch at the last second is dissonance, a flaw that scum can easily avoid. To do something like that requires a reason, an agenda, in the case of day 1 there isnt one as far as I or anyone else can see.
intelligent scum wouldnt blatantly expose themselves like that as they cant rely on people to wifom themselves into tring them for it.
Sure im doing it, but they cant know that I will and even if they do im not a very esteemed player so people arent likely to listen (like you right now)
best policy is to avoid shit like what shape did, he had ample opportunity to do so and did not, to me that is ample reason to tr him.
I also dont doubt my gut on this, as I am almost always right about these kind of reads (its my scum reads that usually get me in trouble XD)
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Hey gb, you there? I have some questions for you.
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1 small welp for gumshoe, one giant welp for townkind
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Hey, so checking in, have to gm for some friends today so I'll be working on that mostly ) : but i'll poke in every once in a while in case anyone has questions.
I still think shape is town / : sorry koshi, that day 1 vote is pretty rock solid in my mind.
tumble-lol
koshi- no fucking way koshi is scum here ever
so that leaves hts and tt.
TT is in my blind spot, as I have trouble reading people who have accused me, Gbs death yesterday is an example of that, hts seems too involved to be scum. If shes scum, that means she has a second hts in her head thats town who helps her keep her cover straight and make it look like shes solving a puzze.
we also know that dyh had a tendency to hard town read actual townies (gb and fedie) sl also hard town read hts, but again, she looked objectively townie(if only because of activity) so they may have just been trying to appease her.
I honestly have no fucking clue whose scum between the two, tt looks fine as well honestly, he was a little reluctant to lynch dyn but so was I honestly, I'm probs not gonna vote today as I dont want another gb repeat T_T
when next I post it'll be with a thorough evaluation of the two of them, maybe shape too if I have time but as I said, pretty sure the dudes not derp enough to hop onto a mislynch.
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Hey, sorry kosh, past few days have been hectic, no time for maf
shape is town, cause dyh accused him pretty hard.
your town cause day 2.
I'm town cause derp
so yeah, hts it is
##vote hts
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On May 02 2016 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:
1/40
If you are town, and are lynching me because you legitimately think I'm mafia, that's fine. You're wrong, and if you aren't reconsidering, you're tunnelled as all hell.
If you are town, and are pulling the same rubbish you did in Haunted Mansion (with onegu) and are lynching me out of spite, then you are (almost) singularly throwing the game. It's mylo, there are 48h left, if it IS gumshoe or Shape, then you are just as much to blame for bailing this cycle as I am for my poor gameplay. Please.
If you are (tinfoil) mafia, which I think to be unlikely, then do your thing.
Onwards.
dyh shape isnt scum on scum
@koshi, Shape talking about himself a bunch while not being productive is indicative of a scum mindset. It implies that he is worried about how the thread is perceiving him, which is more likely to come from scum.
I had just put suspicion on him, my doing so became a point of contention between HtS and Koshi(his top town read). He glazes over my pressure. His entire list post is yelling, "your right DYH, I'm going to fix what you just attacked me for". Which would be all well and good, but then I wouldn't be null to him. I would be scum pushing a bad wagon or I would be misguided town that should be reasoned with.
That plus shapes last second jump on day 1 makes it pretty clear that the dude is town / :
with koshis alignment obvius, that just leaves you hts / : sl and dyh trd you pretty hard, thats not indicative of you bieng scum but it doesnt help me tr you ethier.
Regardless, my play has been lack luster and I may deserve todays lynch, but shape is def town here.
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