EPTOn April 28 2016 05:31 Koshi wrote:
So you saved Damdred and it didn't count? Really?
So you saved Damdred and it didn't count? Really?
Yeah. The last mafia is a roleblocker.
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
Yeah. The last mafia is a roleblocker. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On April 28 2016 04:05 Fidei86 wrote: Ticktock, if you are here, I really think you have to explain this post and your vote D1. At this point, we were 24 minutes before lynch. At that stage, voting was highly contested between FF and SL. Three minutes later, Damdred switched his vote taking it to three on SL and three on FF. SL hammered at 23:16. You were in the thread. You saw a highly contested lynch, and nobody else was going to move to TW. Yet you didn't move. Felt like it was stupid for SL to go "why are you lynching me?" rather than doing something, so I was telling him he should probably do something. Not that I expect you to believe me, but I was thinking about swapping to SL but when everyone started to shift to FF (who I didn't want to lynch) I decided to just stay put on Tumble. I think this was the post I made when that was my thinking. On April 22 2016 07:14 Tictock wrote: Is it bad that I'm tempted to just leave my vote on Tumble in case he's scum and I'm on track to having a perfect voting record this game? + Show Spoiler + That is pretty bad huh? + Show Spoiler + Honestly I'm just not sure who I'd preffer to lynch... + Show Spoiler + SL's sudden return could him just trying to shake off the lynch if he's scum here though... but for some reason I'm inclined to believe him Which you are free to WIFOM as me having TMI calling out exactly what SL was doing, and to further that WIFOM I give you this post I made N1 On April 22 2016 23:54 Tictock wrote: Fairly dissapointed there was no follow through on this. Means SL basically just showed up as a wagon formed up on him, complained he didn't have time kus of another game, then fucked off as soon as the lynch was over. I was going to call-out GB for saying Damdred was a hypocrit but he seems to have realized that was quite an exxageration. Haven't really had a chance to relook at EoD yet, and there is a chance I wont be able to till after daypost. I bet there was at least one scum on FF, at most there was two, but more than likely scum were all spread out in the voting. On April 28 2016 04:09 Fidei86 wrote: With regards to my post above, I also refer to the above post, where TT basically town reads FF and scum reads SL. But he does not vote to save his town read over one of his scum reads. And he posted on at least two occasions (before and after) how bad the lynch was. This is very suspicious to me. I shall continue reading your filter. I think my response to your other post covers this one too. Though saying I had a real town read on FF is overstating things, he was off my list of D1 lynches for sure though. Actually thanks for quoting this one, means I had decent reads D1 with the 2 flipped scum in my lynch pool. + Show Spoiler + For more WIFOM I am known to bus as scum. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:30 Fidei86 wrote: Fuck it. I am the Jailkeeper. I saved Damdred N1 (I got roleblocked) and Tumble N2. I saved Damdred right at the end of N1 - I was on HTS before that, because I figured she's strong town and a natural N1), but at the end I thought Damdred was a) more towny, b) more universally read as townie and therefore c) most likely to be the shot. I was fucking raging after Damdred flipped. I sent Artanis like three PMs yelling. I did not want to claim because we desperately need a save to get another mislynch and avoid 3v1 LYLO. The reason I've played like this is in large part because I thought that my killing DYH was SO TOWNIE that I might be the shot N3. And I really wanted to survive long enough to save TW. Obviously me drawing attention to myself worked too well. I am claiming now to give town enough time to find a new lynch. I think it should be TT. Can you please all now start thinking about the game rather than just waiving through this fucking mislynch on me. Welp, Guess I do not need to read meta, unless CC happens. On April 28 2016 05:31 Koshi wrote: Ok Shape. Are you jailkeeper? You said something about being in jail. Or are you a blue? No, I was actually fucking arrested for public intoxication, hence why I wasn't here at all Day 2 | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:31 Koshi wrote: BLUES CLAIM NOW No. Please don't. We may have a cop. You presumably haven't claimed till now because you don't have a good check. Don't claim because you can be roleblocked. We may have a vet. The last mafia is a roleblocker, so can one shot you. We may have a medic. You can save tumble or me this evening. Obviously if you are the jailkeeper you should CC me. Koshi - there is no need for a mass claim now. If I make it to LYLO then the claims should come at that stage (or the flips will tell us blue status). | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
##vote Shape This guy got nothing going for him except being on sicklucker. But that doesn't count at all. Can somebody remind me why everybody townreads him? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:34 Fidei86 wrote: No. Please don't. We may have a cop. You presumably haven't claimed till now because you don't have a good check. Don't claim because you can be roleblocked. We may have a vet. The last mafia is a roleblocker, so can one shot you. We may have a medic. You can save tumble or me this evening. Obviously if you are the jailkeeper you should CC me. Koshi - there is no need for a mass claim now. If I make it to LYLO then the claims should come at that stage (or the flips will tell us blue status). YES OF COURSE THEY FUCKING CLAIM NOW. £THERE IS MAX 1 LEFT. AND WE DON'T HAVE A JAILKEEPER AND A FUCKING MEDIC. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
I am blue, but if I WASN'T then the CCs should come the day before LYLO, so town can lynch the competing claims. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote: Felt like it was stupid for SL to go "why are you lynching me?" rather than doing something, so I was telling him he should probably do something. Not that I expect you to believe me, but I was thinking about swapping to SL but when everyone started to shift to FF (who I didn't want to lynch) I decided to just stay put on Tumble. I think this was the post I made when that was my thinking. Which you are free to WIFOM as me having TMI calling out exactly what SL was doing, and to further that WIFOM I give you this post I made N1 I think my response to your other post covers this one too. Though saying I had a real town read on FF is overstating things, he was off my list of D1 lynches for sure though. Actually thanks for quoting this one, means I had decent reads D1 with the 2 flipped scum in my lynch pool. + Show Spoiler + For more WIFOM I am known to bus as scum. I..Do not understand...The point of this post. Defense by WIFOM? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:38 Fidei86 wrote: FWIW, one of the reasons I've been nervous about HTS (and also sometimes not nervous) was that I am fairly sure at least someone on the scum team is familiar enough with my meta to know when something is different with me. I was SHOCKED to be roleblocked. This is the best thing you said this game. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:34 Fidei86 wrote: No. Please don't. We may have a cop. You presumably haven't claimed till now because you don't have a good check. Don't claim because you can be roleblocked. We may have a vet. The last mafia is a roleblocker, so can one shot you. We may have a medic. You can save tumble or me this evening. Obviously if you are the jailkeeper you should CC me. Koshi - there is no need for a mass claim now. If I make it to LYLO then the claims should come at that stage (or the flips will tell us blue status). Your wrong, there are only two possibilities, if your telling the truth, your town, if your lying, your scum. If someone claims, we lynch you and win. If no ones claims, we never lynch you. So yes, if someone's doc or dt you should for sure claim right now. But to lend credit to fedies claim, why would he claim the save on damdred of all people? He could have claimed to have saved anyone else, and there would be no conflict in his claim, this particular detail makes me think he must be town and unless a claim occurs we never lynch fedie. That leaves tt me and gb, you all know my preference on that account / : | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:30 Fidei86 wrote: Fuck it. I am the Jailkeeper. I saved Damdred N1 (I got roleblocked) and Tumble N2. I saved Damdred right at the end of N1 - I was on HTS before that, because I figured she's strong town and a natural N1), but at the end I thought Damdred was a) more towny, b) more universally read as townie and therefore c) most likely to be the shot. I was fucking raging after Damdred flipped. I sent Artanis like three PMs yelling. I did not want to claim because we desperately need a save to get another mislynch and avoid 3v1 LYLO. The reason I've played like this is in large part because I thought that my killing DYH was SO TOWNIE that I might be the shot N3. And I really wanted to survive long enough to save TW. Obviously me drawing attention to myself worked too well. I am claiming now to give town enough time to find a new lynch. I think it should be TT. Can you please all now start thinking about the game rather than just waiving through this fucking mislynch on me. Humm, I'm not sure what to make of the bolded here. This would only apply to your play N2. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Alright, I'm back. Skimmed and unvoting Fidei. Re: the setup speculation I'll say this much - 2 prots in m13 is too town favoured and there's unlikely another blue because a JK is really an inv and prot. (The vig is inv). So vig/JK v GF/vanilla/RB (presumably) is balanced imo. I'm reading into his case on Tictock now though. I know D1 I remember the Tumble push by Tictock being flimsy but I am trying to follow what he means by the exact voting sequence. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
Lynching her feels like an unnecessary mErasure when we still have as many mislynches as we do and far more suspicious targets (myself included in that bunch) I don't know how gb came to be town read so hard by so many, but dyh was insistent on clearing him and fedie, with fedie effectively confirmed as of right now, are we to assume that dyh extended himself to protect 2 townies? | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:36 Fidei86 wrote: There is no need to do that now when we still have AT LEAST two more nights and a mafia roleblocker. I am blue, but if I WASN'T then the CCs should come the day before LYLO, so town can lynch the competing claims. No there is no chance of there being another blue if you are in fact the JK, so if there is another blue they 100% should claim now. No way do we have Vig + JK + ??? for town in a 13p setup. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
There could absolutely be another blue. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On April 28 2016 05:43 gumshoe wrote: Lynching hts before gb seems rash. The effort and problem solving seems clear in her play. Lynching her feels like an unnecessary mErasure when we still have as many mislynches as we do and far more suspicious targets (myself included in that bunch) I don't know how gb came to be town read so hard by so many, but dyh was insistent on clearing him and fedie, with fedie effectively confirmed as of right now, are we to assume that dyh extended himself to protect 2 townies? It could have been a way of buddying/disassociation. I think people on this site are inclined to not look as hard at people who are townreading them, but that's just my opinion. Personally I'm more inclined to scumread someone either softpushing someone or not following through on a read, as opposed to townreading or scumreading them. Like look at the non-reads/deferral of read he had on sicklucker. That's what I'm talking about. Sometimes scum do hard defend someone to make it look like they are invested in the game, but I think the manner in which it's done isn't alignment indicative. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
you wanted to save TW, so you wanted to be shot? Wouldn't healing or jailing him keep both of you alive? | ||
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